2010-09-17T00:00:07 Cyndre: i don't remember installing cpanel on hypertriangle 2010-09-17T00:00:08 its like, this state pleases me 2010-09-17T00:00:27 amstan: so I can have my bot scrape html pages when its running on the ai-contest server? 2010-09-17T00:00:35 odinsbane: no 2010-09-17T00:00:40 amstan: I take the shell access back, but leave the db there 2010-09-17T00:00:56 amstan: cpanels just a cheap solution 2010-09-17T00:00:59 odinsbane: you have to make a system to change the bot, upload it, let it cook, then download results 2010-09-17T00:01:09 Cyndre: huh? 2010-09-17T00:01:11 amstan: probably an open source one for splitting up mysql dbs though 2010-09-17T00:01:19 For that tcp should work, anyway see y'll around 2010-09-17T00:01:24 Cyndre: so like... you're free to try it 2010-09-17T00:01:33 Cyndre: ideas are cheap, implementing them is hard 2010-09-17T00:01:35 amstan: thinking about it 2010-09-17T00:01:37 *** odinsbane has quit IRC (Quit: outta here.) 2010-09-17T00:01:43 amstan: execution is king 2010-09-17T00:02:34 btw - grats if any of you are working on this - http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/16/quadrocopters-can-now-fly-through-thrown-hoops-the-end-really-i/ 2010-09-17T00:03:02 i'm about an hour off finishing uni for the week 2010-09-17T00:03:11 then i'm going home and fixing my bot to own all of you :) 2010-09-17T00:03:13 heads up 2010-09-17T00:03:39 woot woot 2010-09-17T00:03:46 antiUni: not fair, you have schooling 2010-09-17T00:04:25 *** smhanov_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2010-09-17T00:04:53 Cyndre: why is that unfair? 2010-09-17T00:04:56 antiUni, i don't finish until 5 tomorrow :( 2010-09-17T00:05:06 ahh ouch 2010-09-17T00:05:22 i had to stay up last night doing maths assignments though, so didn't get to do any programming 2010-09-17T00:07:20 antiUni: cause Im older with family, and job and not as much resources to invest in this 2010-09-17T00:09:27 you know what the best part about loosing is? being able to find bugs to fix by watching the match - I love losing - hmmmm, lost again, must be a bug 2010-09-17T00:10:14 http://ai-contest.com/visualizer.php?game_id=4515850 thats horrible, I was nicely in the lead, and not only gave it up,. got stomped fast 2010-09-17T00:13:15 Cynder: players at rank 1200 and below are gonna whoop our asses out of nowhere ;) 2010-09-17T00:13:44 *** antiUni has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-09-17T00:15:47 pgpaskar_: all your fault: http://ai-contest.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=668 2010-09-17T00:15:49 pgpaskar_: lol 2010-09-17T00:16:04 danielvf: fixing it, stop doing it 2010-09-17T00:22:01 contestbot: where visualizer 2010-09-17T00:22:01 amstan: visualizer = (#1) http://github.com/DanielVF/Planet-Wars-Canvas-Visualizer, or (#2) http://csclub.uwaterloo.ca/~amstan/aichallenge/canvas-visualizer/ 2010-09-17T00:33:17 has anyone got the pythonn visuliser working? 2010-09-17T00:33:29 shit dun work for me 2010-09-17T00:37:55 i run java -jar tools/PlayGame.jar maps/map12.txt 1000 200 log.txt "pw.exe" "pw2.exe" | "visualizer/visualize_localy.py" 2010-09-17T00:38:33 ánd after turn 1 but before turn 2 it outputs Traceback (most recent call last): 2010-09-17T00:38:33 File "C:\planwars\visualizer\visualize_localy.py", line 32, in 2010-09-17T00:38:33 data = raw_input() 2010-09-17T00:38:33 EOFError: EOF when reading a line 2010-09-17T00:38:40 *** naglijo has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T00:38:50 and then nothing happens after the game finishes 2010-09-17T00:38:56 what am i doing wrong 2010-09-17T00:39:36 hi, can i do webservice calls? what is the max file size of what i can submit? 2010-09-17T00:40:39 Baphomet: are you sure one of the bots isn't crashing after turn 1? 2010-09-17T00:40:43 very sure 2010-09-17T00:40:53 it works perfectly with the normal visuliser 2010-09-17T00:41:04 naglijo: no network access of any kind 2010-09-17T00:41:15 and they both work on the offical server and on tcp svr 2010-09-17T00:41:17 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T00:41:37 Baphomet: hmm, from that traceback it seems like visualize_localy.py stdin is being closed 2010-09-17T00:41:38 and the game does actually finish 2010-09-17T00:41:59 also its not always after turn 1 2010-09-17T00:42:10 but it always happens before the game ends 2010-09-17T00:42:51 you cant write to files but you can read, correct? 2010-09-17T00:42:53 sorry, no other idea then 2010-09-17T00:43:00 naglijo: yes 2010-09-17T00:43:15 is there a max file size of your submission? 2010-09-17T00:43:48 I heard a 10MB rumor but I don't really know 2010-09-17T00:44:00 Your zip file may not exceed 2 MB in size. If you need to submit a bigger file for some reason, that's fine. Post on the forums and we'll work something out. 2010-09-17T00:44:11 odinsbane & rogue780: I use TCP but i time out or dc all the time. and no i use a mac. 2010-09-17T00:44:12 are the rules for what is considered a security violation made public? 2010-09-17T00:44:25 yea 2010-09-17T00:44:28 silly macs 2010-09-17T00:44:33 stop tryign to hack and cheat lol 2010-09-17T00:44:47 not cheating, want to know the full rules 2010-09-17T00:44:53 http://ai-contest.com/rules.php 2010-09-17T00:45:00 probbly should take a read? 2010-09-17T00:45:03 ive only been shown the spec 2010-09-17T00:45:06 everything is on there 2010-09-17T00:45:21 Rule: don't do anything malicious :) 2010-09-17T00:46:06 tcp is ok but you can't repeat trials and debug stuff easily. 2010-09-17T00:46:10 you could actually do a LOT of damage if you wanted to 2010-09-17T00:46:19 considering the code is being executed locally 2010-09-17T00:46:20 ive seen that, im wondering about this point in the endgame conditions: # 2010-09-17T00:46:20 # A bot attempts to do something that the tournament manager deems a security issue and is disqualified. 2010-09-17T00:46:53 lil' bita buffer overflow here and there, some shell code injections and your all set ;) 2010-09-17T00:47:27 It is at least run sandboxed under a VM so it should take a *bit* of work to do real damage :/ 2010-09-17T00:48:10 im not looking to do damage or subvert the tournament 2010-09-17T00:48:14 i remember once someone made an exploit to vmware server where you could take control over all of the other vms on the same box 2010-09-17T00:48:46 yeah, I'm sure it's possible to break out 2010-09-17T00:49:12 you can spawn child processes, correct? 2010-09-17T00:49:17 no 2010-09-17T00:49:28 but your bot can be in java? 2010-09-17T00:49:29 no forking or threading 2010-09-17T00:49:33 oh.. 2010-09-17T00:50:04 well damn. 2010-09-17T00:51:08 *** hellman has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T00:51:24 *** computerwiz_222 has left #aichallenge 2010-09-17T00:51:27 can you create files? 2010-09-17T00:51:33 nope 2010-09-17T00:51:46 you can read files in your directry though 2010-09-17T00:51:58 does google give access to your bots output? 2010-09-17T00:52:16 it says it silently captures stderr, can you access it? 2010-09-17T00:52:21 no 2010-09-17T00:52:50 *** justin_pdx has quit IRC (Quit: justin_pdx) 2010-09-17T00:52:58 not from the games played on the contest server that is 2010-09-17T00:53:24 if you want to output from your bot, play on the tcp server 2010-09-17T00:56:44 i will... ty 2010-09-17T00:58:40 keep getting this on tcp "read: Connection reset by peer" any ideas? 2010-09-17T00:58:48 does my internet just suck? 2010-09-17T00:59:55 I can't believe this game plays out 999 turns 2010-09-17T00:59:57 before I win 2010-09-17T01:00:11 pjreddie: I can get on 2010-09-17T01:00:19 There are currently 28 connections and 12 games running 2010-09-17T01:00:44 oh i get on and start playing. then i get the reset message 2010-09-17T01:01:41 oh, then I don't know 2010-09-17T01:02:08 pjreddie: what is closing the connection? 2010-09-17T01:02:08 *** Queue29 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-09-17T01:05:42 i don't know 2010-09-17T01:14:38 *** Eiii has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T01:15:07 *** rwa has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T01:15:32 hi 2010-09-17T01:16:56 bots on the tcp server do not have the conform to the same rules as the offical challenge, no? 2010-09-17T01:17:45 in what way are they different? 2010-09-17T01:18:54 *** justin_pdx has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T01:20:03 your bot runs locally so you do not have to conform to the rules of no network calls, file writes, or bot size 2010-09-17T01:20:09 etc 2010-09-17T01:20:13 correct 2010-09-17T01:20:33 that's one of the points of it, I think, is so that you can log/debug, etc. 2010-09-17T01:22:07 the engine used is different than in the official challenge tho, correct? 2010-09-17T01:22:35 technically yes but I think it is designed to have the same rules 2010-09-17T01:22:56 certainly bots doing well on the tcp server are also doing well on the main server 2010-09-17T01:25:52 all of them except mine, that is...lol 2010-09-17T01:27:49 *** botman has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-09-17T01:29:20 how is your bot coded? :) 2010-09-17T01:30:01 *** vegacom has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-09-17T01:32:03 very carefully ;) 2010-09-17T01:32:36 I'm anomalously at #1 on tcp server right now (don't blind, I won't stay there) 2010-09-17T01:33:01 don't blink, I meant to say 2010-09-17T01:33:02 my bot sucks 2010-09-17T01:33:06 http://ai-contest.com/profile.php?user_id=3911 2010-09-17T01:33:46 rwa your vortex.1? 2010-09-17T01:33:47 ... and it's the weekend 2010-09-17T01:33:58 Cyndre - yeah, all the vortex.N are variants of my bot 2010-09-17T01:33:59 marathon programming weekend :D 2010-09-17T01:34:04 rwa grats :) 2010-09-17T01:34:09 thanks! 2010-09-17T01:34:32 dude this contest might cost me my job... or my wife 2010-09-17T01:34:53 rwa: it's already costing me my uni marks 2010-09-17T01:35:01 I've spent many hours thinking about my strategy 2010-09-17T01:35:05 i contemplated dropping my cs major just so i'd have more time for programming 2010-09-17T01:35:09 fyi - a1k0n got a promotion at work and turned down a goldman sachs offer after winning the tron contest 2010-09-17T01:35:19 raw: same, i'm now implementing 2010-09-17T01:35:37 antimatroid1: whoa, dropping cs major maybe not a winning strategy 2010-09-17T01:35:39 i have done data storage and simple heuristics, this weekend i'm trying to actually implement something decent 2010-09-17T01:35:52 rwa: I have majors in economics and maths as well :P 2010-09-17T01:35:53 rwa: so it is definatly worth winning if your looking for major cred with big players (a1k0n works at yahoo) 2010-09-17T01:35:58 and i don't plan to work in cs 2010-09-17T01:36:29 Cyndre: yep, that's definitely on my mind 2010-09-17T01:36:42 *** matburt has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T01:37:18 rwa: I just want to say Im better then vortex 2010-09-17T01:37:26 jobs, meh, acquire fun problems all day and thrust 2010-09-17T01:37:38 antimatroid1: the job I want is a fun problem 2010-09-17T01:37:58 which job is that? 2010-09-17T01:38:10 my wife was like your doing well - and Im like "Well? Are you serious? There is litterly 165 people above me - my current position needs to improve 165 times before Im doing well...." 2010-09-17T01:38:26 yeah i feel like that and my bots 28th atm 2010-09-17T01:38:31 one that involves him getting paid large sums of money to trade stocks 2010-09-17T01:38:38 i wont be happy till i'm sitting up in first 2010-09-17T01:38:53 oh i have contemplated that, but then finance is so bleh statsy 2010-09-17T01:38:58 or large sums of money to "work" 2010-09-17T01:38:59 i shouldn't have told that story, heh 2010-09-17T01:39:00 I want to work with these guys: 2010-09-17T01:39:02 to each their own though :) 2010-09-17T01:39:04 http://www.makanipower.com/ 2010-09-17T01:39:11 or these guys: 2010-09-17T01:39:24 did you look at that helicopter link I posted? 2010-09-17T01:39:26 http://www.jobyenergy.com/ 2010-09-17T01:39:29 wow that's awesome 2010-09-17T01:39:49 woah, the colour on the page changes as i tab between windows 2010-09-17T01:40:01 http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/16/quadrocopters-can-now-fly-through-thrown-hoops-the-end-really-i/ 2010-09-17T01:40:18 yea I seen the first one 2010-09-17T01:40:35 Cyndre: yes, I've seen that 2010-09-17T01:40:45 autonomous flight is a big part of the makani/joby concept 2010-09-17T01:40:55 it's all about control systems, which are a form of AI in a way 2010-09-17T01:41:10 i just bought a copy of 'the art of modeling dynamic systems' in the hope of building a UAV at some point 2010-09-17T01:41:36 have you checked out DIY drones? 2010-09-17T01:41:39 i have 2010-09-17T01:41:40 I want to order the copter he mentions to just play with it 2010-09-17T01:41:55 awesome 2010-09-17T01:42:23 but currently working on docsis cable modems and location based stuff - rather fun 2010-09-17T01:42:56 I select 'Other' as my organization when signing up and it says The organization you selected is invalid. Please contact the contest staff. 2010-09-17T01:43:22 nice. i notice 'other' got eliminated from the ranking page 2010-09-17T01:43:25 naglijo: I didn't have that problem. I'm pretty sure it let me select other, as my org was not on the list. 2010-09-17T01:43:41 i suspect danielvf is tinkering 2010-09-17T01:44:20 tcp server needs a challenge button - challenge target bot after connecting 2010-09-17T01:45:15 *** ermau has quit IRC (Quit: ermau) 2010-09-17T01:45:45 that would be cool 2010-09-17T01:45:45 yah 2010-09-17T01:45:54 add 'other' back to the ref table danielvf kthx 2010-09-17T01:45:55 like, you connect and you go into a lobby 2010-09-17T01:46:03 i wanted that on the official site last time round 2010-09-17T01:46:09 where you could challenge anyone above you 2010-09-17T01:46:10 OR you can still do random games 2010-09-17T01:46:32 *** naglijo has quit IRC () 2010-09-17T01:46:34 whoever made the tcp.c should redo it lol 2010-09-17T01:46:45 yeah, and in the lobby you'd be like "I'm buying in for $20 HU, any takers?" 2010-09-17T01:46:57 haha 2010-09-17T01:47:01 rwa: Im betting on rwa 2010-09-17T01:47:17 a1k0n that would be a wiked feature 2010-09-17T01:48:00 *** Palmik has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T01:50:22 I still think there should be a communal accoutn to donate money to 2010-09-17T01:50:24 woohoo, I finally beat bartwe.8. probably a fluke. 2010-09-17T01:50:25 for funding prize money 2010-09-17T01:51:38 I need dmj and deepblue to get on here to see if my latest bot has the right stuff 2010-09-17T01:51:59 Can your bot make web service calls? 2010-09-17T01:53:21 my bot plays tetris 2010-09-17T01:53:29 kidding. why? 2010-09-17T01:54:07 I just wish there was a way to record how the matches went. 2010-09-17T01:54:14 on the main server? 2010-09-17T01:54:23 yup 2010-09-17T01:54:38 I say just play on the tcp server, it's SO much faster and more productive 2010-09-17T01:54:49 and you can log the heck out of it if you want 2010-09-17T01:56:02 Sounds like a plan. 2010-09-17T01:57:00 Thanks 2010-09-17T01:57:40 send all payments to me and Ill give them away to place (insert place of adamdomoney bot) 2010-09-17T02:04:22 oh, it all makes sense now--like fame and notoriety, but ain't got the ranking? Adam "does" money... get out those checkbooks, boys and girls! 2010-09-17T02:05:33 *** Theobon has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2010-09-17T02:07:20 that is my realname in case your wondering 2010-09-17T02:08:54 I had a sneaking suspicion... I had hoped it was, because then the lame joke is actually a lame joke instead of an actual bribe bot :) 2010-09-17T02:09:24 *** Theobon has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T02:09:39 whiteside-green-0.6 is yours I presume whiteside? 2010-09-17T02:10:13 Gah, still no clue why my client times out. :( Must be some really dumb typo or something. http://hpaste.org/30137/google_ai_challenge 2010-09-17T02:10:24 yeah, any of those whiteside-.* be mine, I tend not to flood the board with more than one or two at a time though 2010-09-17T02:10:49 *** syntaxglitch has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2010-09-17T02:11:13 If I run more than 2 at a time I tend to have timeouts 2010-09-17T02:11:39 ah, thanks for the heads-up 2010-09-17T02:12:35 *** hellman has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-09-17T02:13:27 is that a bot parameter you're encoding in the name? 2010-09-17T02:13:31 or just a version # 2010-09-17T02:14:18 just some simple increments with the numbers, and "general idea" in the colors 2010-09-17T02:15:44 I'm still in the 8-color crayonbox in practice, but I've been writing down enough junk to get well into mauve-saffron-chartreuse-coquelicot territory eventually 2010-09-17T02:17:19 I'm still on my first general idea 2010-09-17T02:17:32 mostly because I only really have one general idea...lol 2010-09-17T02:18:13 hey, it obviously works 2010-09-17T02:18:32 so far so good 2010-09-17T02:19:10 you're the one unleashing all those vortices right? 2010-09-17T02:19:14 yes 2010-09-17T02:19:33 oh, .5 just took a hit 2010-09-17T02:21:19 ahh yes... I made a comment the other day when you fired your bot up again, something about my ranking swirling down the crapper 2010-09-17T02:21:30 not that that's what you meant by "vortex" but the imagery certainly stuck with me 2010-09-17T02:22:13 I was thinking more swirling tornado, but yea 2010-09-17T02:22:51 pjreddie seems to either timeout or win 2010-09-17T02:23:03 unfortunately for his ranking he times out 80% of the time 2010-09-17T02:25:19 bartwe.6 owned me a couple days ago, now I seem to have an edge on him 2010-09-17T02:26:25 oh ouch, I see what you mean with pjreddie 2010-09-17T02:26:39 yeah, he's the only non-vortex bot which has beat vortex.5 2010-09-17T02:27:27 * whiteside makes a mental note to "offer him free hosting on my personal machine" just because he's such a swell guy/gal 2010-09-17T02:27:37 what's the shortest non-error match you've seen? 2010-09-17T02:27:58 I took this guy out in 18 turns 2010-09-17T02:28:03 http://www.benzedrine.cx/planetwars/canvas?game_id=13283 2010-09-17T02:28:09 Not super low, I want to say like low 40 2010-09-17T02:28:25 *** Theobon has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2010-09-17T02:28:49 oh ho ho, nice... that right there is something I have coded in my bot 2010-09-17T02:29:05 the right conditions haven't sprung up yet 2010-09-17T02:29:09 but the routine is literally "dick_move" 2010-09-17T02:29:12 *** Utkarsh has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2010-09-17T02:30:03 I just removed the if Im ahead part and it looks like its doing way better :( 2010-09-17T02:30:14 I hate functions that are good in concept but bad in execution 2010-09-17T02:30:42 pjreddie has my number - I'm 0/2 against him now 2010-09-17T02:31:47 you see Cyndre, once your bot ceases worrying excessively and nitpicking about every single little thing in its life, the stress and self-defeating ideas leave, and it is truly free to do its best 2010-09-17T02:32:23 98 out of 100 on dual bot but 94/100 on rage bot 2010-09-17T02:32:38 my rage bot winning went down by 4, and dualbot winning went up by 4 2010-09-17T02:33:03 *** kjeldahl has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-09-17T02:35:25 *** Utkarsh has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T02:38:51 *** dhartmei_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T02:40:04 *** amstan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2010-09-17T02:40:52 Cyndre: I've spent all day making my bot `better', and every improvement I've made has made it perform worse 2010-09-17T02:41:12 atmz443: did that from about 6 pm to 2 am yesterday 2010-09-17T02:41:15 atmz443 :( 2010-09-17T02:41:29 Hey at least your bot works 2010-09-17T02:41:31 :p 2010-09-17T02:42:07 It's only 5 places behind the bot I made yesterday now, so it's getting there 2010-09-17T02:42:20 what? you guys stopped at some point, and then continued to stop doing coding for a significant length of time afterwards? 2010-09-17T02:42:43 the thought is... terrifying... 2010-09-17T02:42:56 work, daily 2010-09-17T02:43:17 :) 2010-09-17T02:43:28 the main reason I want to do respectably 2010-09-17T02:43:32 yes, I went to work and sat there with graph paper for 8 hours working out strategies before going home to code some more ;) 2010-09-17T02:44:41 so that next year, I'm too busy with a job to spend all of my time trying to do well enough on it that I don't have to spend all my time doing well on it so that I don't have to spend all my time doing well on it so that I don't have to spend all of my time doing... 2010-09-17T02:46:24 I'm starting work in november :( 2010-09-17T02:46:24 http://www.benzedrine.cx/planetwars/canvas?game_id=13375 wtf 2010-09-17T02:48:11 yeah, guys, if you have time try to make sure your bots finish people off when they're winning, it'll save time for you and everyone you crush :) 2010-09-17T02:48:12 Cyndre: playing defense, eh? 2010-09-17T02:48:28 (in this case I assume your bot was supossed to do that) 2010-09-17T02:48:51 rwa: well my evaulation code on whose winning excludes fleets in air so I removed it 2010-09-17T02:49:54 rwa: I had a fun bot going earlier which only defended and snatched planets that had *just* been taken by the enemy; it wasn't very good, but very amusing when it won 2010-09-17T02:50:07 Cyndre: ooh, that would be entirely fatal against my bot... it keeps most of its ships in flight intentionally 2010-09-17T02:50:11 rwa: and other then a few tricks I want to try (scan censored for censored to figure out blackout within cut out of paper 2010-09-17T02:50:34 Cyndre: hahahaha 2010-09-17T02:50:56 whiteside: well only the part that decides if it should switch to attack mode 2010-09-17T02:51:05 ty 2010-09-17T02:51:06 (the hahaha was regarding the "declassified" documents) 2010-09-17T02:51:39 ships in flight can't be attacked... but they also can't be directed to attack or defend 2010-09-17T02:52:30 *** boegel has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T02:52:42 okay okay, how can we fuck with these assholes that want us to declasify our shit? LMAO lets put our friends and realitves in charge of censoring secret information (adjective nouns english words) - not only do they not get what they were hoping for, our family/friends group profits off it (90k/year job * 10,000) 2010-09-17T02:52:43 pros and cons, pros and cons... definitely the point to end all points about it, though 2010-09-17T02:53:35 I think this weekend I should be top 50 with that censored idea btw 2010-09-17T02:54:40 i want 1 by end of tonight damnit 2010-09-17T02:54:48 *** drewrobb_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2010-09-17T02:54:56 i get a head start on most people for the weekend 2010-09-17T02:55:08 i still have a lot of work to do before my current idea is all implemented 2010-09-17T02:55:40 hmmm maybe I should check to make sure I own planets I send fleets from 2010-09-17T02:55:56 atmz443: and that you have enough ships there to send ;) 2010-09-17T02:56:14 it takes pretty much no time, and ensures you don't lose a game like that 2010-09-17T02:56:51 hence why people say update a planets ship count as you send fleets off each turn 2010-09-17T02:56:55 (I changed my defense code to use pre-calculated nearest-neighbor lists instead of randomly picking planets to defend from) 2010-09-17T02:57:10 (and precalculated lists obviously dont include just my planets) 2010-09-17T02:57:17 lmao 2010-09-17T02:57:20 (fixed now, but i lost 5 games to invalid input :p) 2010-09-17T02:58:23 the first 9 bots are really only 2 different ones 2010-09-17T02:58:23 i have a terrible habbit of getting near something new, chopping it together till it works, then spending the next 2-3 days cleaning wtf i did up 2010-09-17T02:58:31 well different versions of those 2 2010-09-17T02:59:08 it's at times hilarious to have little imaginary moments where you pretend the little ships are in an actual war, with some dudes flying around... "Go defend that planet." "B-but.. sir! It's the enemy's stronghold now! It hasn't been our planet si--" "I SAID GO" 2010-09-17T02:59:12 the mess i had after rewriting planet wars was horrible to sort through aha 2010-09-17T03:00:00 http://www.benzedrine.cx/planetwars/canvas?game_id=13501 why would it stop and let the enemy catch up 2010-09-17T03:00:06 I'm only winning games when the other bot crashes, that's no good, is it? 2010-09-17T03:00:39 http://www.benzedrine.cx/planetwars/canvas?game_id=13478 2010-09-17T03:01:10 Cyndre: collecting ships? 2010-09-17T03:01:34 boegel: no - its supposed to just expand 2010-09-17T03:01:37 its very simple 2010-09-17T03:01:56 you'd be surprised how much sadism a bot can implement with technologies these days 2010-09-17T03:02:13 and my only loss's should have been wins 2010-09-17T03:02:15 Cyndre: well, it's not, for some reason :P 2010-09-17T03:02:41 and turn 6 it does it as well 2010-09-17T03:03:33 how do you guys figure out why you won/lost? I see stuff happening but mostly its a very fine line between winning and losing and I'm not sure what i'm doing right/wrong 2010-09-17T03:03:40 e.g. i have no idea why i won http://www.benzedrine.cx/planetwars/canvas?game_id=13488 2010-09-17T03:03:53 those ones were pretty obvious 2010-09-17T03:04:38 dont use the way points for moving ships around 2010-09-17T03:05:31 the enemy gains ground while you have the majority of your fleet in flight 2010-09-17T03:06:05 at turn 61 the game changes hands 2010-09-17T03:06:56 ie turn 66, 586 ships, 162 on planets and 424 in aitr 2010-09-17T03:06:59 er air 2010-09-17T03:07:35 atmz443: the enemy seems to be more interest in enforcing it's own planets 2010-09-17T03:08:00 atmz443: you could be more aggressive at the end though, it takes you a while before you're actually winning 2010-09-17T03:08:18 *** apophis_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-09-17T03:08:28 oh, I looked at the wrong color 2010-09-17T03:08:30 sorry 2010-09-17T03:08:34 you made the nice move half way through 2010-09-17T03:08:42 er at turn 66 2010-09-17T03:09:16 cyndre:no prob, your explaination was still good :) 2010-09-17T03:09:49 ty 2010-09-17T03:10:07 thats an nice come from behind btw - my bots currently punishing itself 2010-09-17T03:10:44 Goddamn why does this not work. I have a program that accepts all input, and only prints "go\n" when it sees a line starting with "go". And it STILL times out. 2010-09-17T03:11:03 Is there some key thing that's needed for the engine to accept a bot? 2010-09-17T03:11:18 *** jaspervdj has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T03:12:14 *** sinan has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T03:12:27 if len(current_line) >= 2 and current_line.startswith("go"): is what is in my python package 2010-09-17T03:12:31 try checking length 2010-09-17T03:13:00 I've dumped what the python package receives as input, there are no blank or short lines. 2010-09-17T03:13:23 try escaping the \ 2010-09-17T03:13:42 The what? o.O 2010-09-17T03:13:54 try "go\\" 2010-09-17T03:14:03 try "go\\n" 2010-09-17T03:14:52 As input or output? 2010-09-17T03:15:11 outbput 2010-09-17T03:15:38 McLeopold on top now 2010-09-17T03:15:50 Existing clients output only one \n after "go", which print already puts in. Tried that anyway, and nope :\ 2010-09-17T03:15:51 sigh: you started weekend marathon yet? 2010-09-17T03:16:09 McLeopold ate my lunch yesterday on the tcp server. Wish he'd come back for my latest... 2010-09-17T03:16:27 he's top on official at the moment 2010-09-17T03:16:29 or was last i checked 2010-09-17T03:17:18 *** hellman has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T03:17:32 yep 2010-09-17T03:17:40 McLeopold.5 on tcp was fearsome 2010-09-17T03:17:53 I couldn't really pick out what he was doing, other than swallowing me alive 2010-09-17T03:18:03 i was beating your bots for a while, haven't updated properly in a few days 2010-09-17T03:18:11 i hope to get something else up by the end of tonight 2010-09-17T03:18:29 antimatroid1: yes you were, your 2.0 had my number 2010-09-17T03:18:30 antimatroid1: a bit, yeah... I basically re-writing my bot, so don't know how that will turn out 2010-09-17T03:21:14 http://ai-contest.com/visualizer.php?game_id=4517020 2010-09-17T03:21:18 *** rogue780 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-09-17T03:22:27 rwa: my 2.0 was just taking information and badly making choices from it, wait till i actually make it do some smart decisions :P 2010-09-17T03:22:35 *** hellman has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-09-17T03:22:36 sigh: in the same boat :P 2010-09-17T03:22:54 antimatroid1: bring it on ;P 2010-09-17T03:23:10 i just worked out how to solve one of my problems, but it's going to take a while to code up the algorithm :| 2010-09-17T03:23:18 *** hellman has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T03:23:25 then i'm not even sure if i'll be able to calculate it in time 2010-09-17T03:23:45 I'm already pushing limits of calc time 2010-09-17T03:23:57 gonna have to do some profiling soon 2010-09-17T03:24:01 really? i'm at like 0.01 seconds 2010-09-17T03:24:09 what the hell are you doing 2010-09-17T03:24:22 calculating :P 2010-09-17T03:24:23 that wasn't an actual question 2010-09-17T03:24:27 so am i :P 2010-09-17T03:24:35 are you using c++? 2010-09-17T03:24:38 yes 2010-09-17T03:24:42 and did you rewrite planetwars? 2010-09-17T03:24:46 no 2010-09-17T03:25:05 is there reason to? I haven't really looked in there yet 2010-09-17T03:25:07 i'm generating expected states for each planet for max distance in each turn 2010-09-17T03:25:43 i found it horrible, rewrote it to update stuff as it passed the game state and use just one pw variable in MyBot for the whole game 2010-09-17T03:25:54 everything became public too 2010-09-17T03:26:45 *** ratatata has joined #aichallenge 2010-09-17T03:26:58 good mornin 2010-09-17T03:27:11 good evening 2010-09-17T03:27:52