2010-10-18T00:00:42 *** rwa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-10-18T00:00:58 o_O 2010-10-18T00:01:04 !seen phreeza 2010-10-18T00:01:04 sigh: phreeza was last seen in #aichallenge 5 hours, 25 minutes, and 41 seconds ago: yea 2010-10-18T00:01:57 Top 10 players: savchenko(4121), dmj111(4111), deepblue(4065), Hazard(4026), DocBot(3898), fglider(3878), sequoh(3863), Manwe56(3854), Rexxar(3835), cfaftw(3833) 2010-10-18T00:02:08 antimatroid: what exactly are you responding to? 2010-10-18T00:04:35 antimatroid: did you cancel your bot? 2010-10-18T00:04:39 ^ my guess 2010-10-18T00:06:18 *** rwa has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T00:08:34 sigh: he asked if i stopped my bot 2010-10-18T00:08:41 yeah, what mathnerd posted 2010-10-18T00:08:50 fair enough, but he's on online anymore :P 2010-10-18T00:08:51 i thought he meant construction at first aha 2010-10-18T00:08:58 ah, i didn't even look :P 2010-10-18T00:10:54 it takes my bot so long to play games now :( 2010-10-18T00:11:30 this is with your tree search? 2010-10-18T00:11:36 yeah 2010-10-18T00:11:36 how does it do now? 2010-10-18T00:11:40 not very well 2010-10-18T00:11:42 :( 2010-10-18T00:11:44 but i'm still ironing things out 2010-10-18T00:11:59 it works, it's just difficult to get it right 2010-10-18T00:12:01 weren't you going to study fro exams now? 2010-10-18T00:12:06 yeah shhhhh 2010-10-18T00:12:12 :P 2010-10-18T00:12:24 http://72.44.46.68/getplayer?player=antitest 2010-10-18T00:12:29 that's some games from it today 2010-10-18T00:14:14 *** dhaval has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-10-18T00:17:06 antimatroid: watched antitest's games. looks very promising! 2010-10-18T00:17:19 *** Utkarsh has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-10-18T00:17:27 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-10-18T00:17:38 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T00:20:59 rebelxt_: it's hard to get the tree to make good choices 2010-10-18T00:21:28 atm it's sort of randomly picking expansionary and offensive moves while filling in the rest each turn 2010-10-18T00:23:13 *** Olathe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2010-10-18T00:23:36 250 ELO for a first revision of tree search bot is a great start. i assume you are mixing in some heuristics from your official bot 2010-10-18T00:24:22 yeah quite a lot of the heuristic side stuff has been moved in 2010-10-18T00:24:28 still quite a few bugs i see in games too 2010-10-18T00:25:14 should you try multi-attacking on first turn? i.e. avoid tree search and use usual algorithm you used before, then switch to minimax 2010-10-18T00:25:15 *** Utkarsh has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T00:27:29 i think minimax works well first turn 2010-10-18T00:27:33 *** Olathe has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T00:27:44 just try a combination of planets to take for each player 2010-10-18T00:28:04 you can change up what moves are picked dependent on the state of the game etc. too 2010-10-18T00:28:06 as long as your search tree considers 1-N moves, minimax is good for start because it handles close/far automatically 2010-10-18T00:28:07 it's fairly flexible 2010-10-18T00:28:09 true, but branch factor is huge since bots normally attack 4-6 planets on first turn 2010-10-18T00:28:30 i have it checking just up to 4 to take atm 2010-10-18T00:28:37 and it usually seems to pick just 1 or 2 2010-10-18T00:28:45 but it will then back them up and expand when they get tehre 2010-10-18T00:29:42 as soon as we got our minimax bot up and running for tron it was making it into first place on the official server towards the end of the comp 2010-10-18T00:29:59 but it was a lot easier to get that right 2010-10-18T00:30:35 yeah, tron was so much simpler 2010-10-18T00:31:21 *** davidjliu has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-10-18T00:32:14 appreciate you giving some updates on your new bot. very good progress! keeps me interested in doing another re-write 2010-10-18T00:32:23 it's doing very well with close starts 2010-10-18T00:32:27 *** Itkovian has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-10-18T00:32:35 *** Itkovian has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T00:33:15 yeah. have you generated a few small (few planets) maps for debugging? 2010-10-18T00:33:40 ha, i just see bugs and go to what would have cause it 2010-10-18T00:33:51 i was drawing out trees to debug with tron, that was painful enough 2010-10-18T00:35:19 i will generate some really simple maps - hopefully easier to debug 2010-10-18T00:36:33 *** Frontier has left #aichallenge 2010-10-18T00:39:51 *** rwa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-10-18T00:48:57 *** rebelxt_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-10-18T00:53:12 *** Zannick has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-10-18T00:57:05 *** GigabyteJas has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-10-18T00:58:46 *** Zannick has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T01:01:03 *** O1athe has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T01:01:57 Top 10 players: savchenko(4114), dmj111(4103), deepblue(4059), Hazard(4020), DocBot(3893), fglider(3864), sequoh(3856), Manwe56(3848), Rexxar(3830), cfaftw(3825) 2010-10-18T01:02:07 *** Olathe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-10-18T01:07:49 *** Itkovian has quit IRC (Quit: Itkovian) 2010-10-18T01:11:00 *** narnach has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T01:12:12 *** Azrathud has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-10-18T01:14:46 *** delt0r_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T01:15:00 *** jesionaj` has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-10-18T01:15:55 *** delt0r___ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-10-18T01:17:20 *** jesionaj has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T01:44:51 *** Palmik has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T01:48:22 *** jesionaj has quit IRC (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )) 2010-10-18T01:53:45 *** Utkarsh has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2010-10-18T01:58:20 *** Utkarsh has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T02:01:58 Top 10 players: savchenko(4107), dmj111(4095), deepblue(4047), Hazard(4013), DocBot(3886), fglider(3859), Manwe56(3844), sequoh(3841), Rexxar(3823), cfaftw(3819) 2010-10-18T02:06:44 *** hellman has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-10-18T02:13:10 *** Accoun has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2010-10-18T02:15:15 *** mega1 has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T02:25:21 *** Utkarsh has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2010-10-18T02:31:23 *** decipher has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T02:31:47 *** Utkarsh has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T02:31:55 question: can i move more then one fleet from the same planet within a turn 2010-10-18T02:40:47 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-10-18T02:45:33 yes, so long as you do not send in total more than the planet has 2010-10-18T02:53:02 *** flavor has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T02:53:09 kk also if i send an amount of ships to an enemy planet but i know by the time i get there his ship count will raise, rufly 5 ships per click, with the built in distance function they give you is there a calculation you can do to know how many ships will it grow by the time it gets there for example 2010-10-18T02:53:27 distance/turn ratio would help 2010-10-18T02:53:45 depends on planet growth rate too 2010-10-18T02:59:41 *** O1athe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-10-18T03:01:59 Top 10 players: dmj111(4111), deepblue(4060), Hazard(4044), savchenko(4042), DocBot(3903), sequoh(3883), davidjliu(3868), fglider(3847), cfaftw(3843), Manwe56(3833) 2010-10-18T03:06:00 the distance between two planets is the number of turns it will take to get between them 2010-10-18T03:16:55 during a few days aichallenge server gives 5-8 gpm.somebody knows why? 2010-10-18T03:18:39 flavor: the servers are f'd, tcp is your friend 2010-10-18T03:27:31 *** boegel has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:10:26 *** contestbot has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:10:26 -jordan.freenode.net- [freenode-info] channel trolls and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp 2010-10-18T16:10:27 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o contestbot 2010-10-18T16:10:41 the config file got corrupted, had to fix it manually 2010-10-18T16:10:43 stupid bot 2010-10-18T16:11:37 contestbot: welcome back ;-) 2010-10-18T16:11:38 rebelxt: User error -- Replace user. 2010-10-18T16:12:00 *** davidjliu has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:16:05 *** Sarin has quit IRC (Quit: Verlassend) 2010-10-18T16:21:08 *** iFire has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:27:11 *** JensTi1 has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:30:11 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:30:16 *** iFire has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-10-18T16:30:26 contestbot: commands 2010-10-18T16:30:26 Error323: action, add, alert, alias, allyourspace, announce, announce add, announce list, announce remove, any, aol, apply, apropos, at, author, azn, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, binary, bold, bye, cache, calc, call, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, capitalize, change, changename, channel, channels, (5 more messages) 2010-10-18T16:30:28 *** Itkovian has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:30:48 *** JensTi has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-10-18T16:31:06 *** Titankiller has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-10-18T16:31:12 *** iFire has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:36:36 contestbot: why doesn't the server allow golang yet? 2010-10-18T16:36:37 lavalamp_: User error -- Replace user. 2010-10-18T16:45:19 lavalamp_: did you mail jeff? 2010-10-18T16:45:27 yeah 2010-10-18T16:45:30 last week 2010-10-18T16:45:33 no response :( 2010-10-18T16:45:44 lol, good luck 2010-10-18T16:46:18 :( I worked on my bot literally all weekend 2010-10-18T16:46:23 go would be nice for this ! 2010-10-18T16:46:29 40+ hours 2010-10-18T16:46:50 go is very nice for this 2010-10-18T16:48:17 is there anyone besides the mythical jeff who can help? 2010-10-18T16:50:02 *** sigh_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:51:13 lavalamp_: not really 2010-10-18T16:51:28 there's me, but idk how to access the cloud servers 2010-10-18T16:51:33 and you kinda need those for a new language 2010-10-18T16:51:50 is he likely to be more accesible in the future once some of the kinks get worked out? 2010-10-18T16:52:20 danielvf, if he shows back up later 2010-10-18T16:53:01 hey, where can i get some stronger opponents than the demobots ? (i mean, kinda src, to try at home) 2010-10-18T16:53:17 TCP server 2010-10-18T16:53:37 Zannick: I'll keep my eye out for him then 2010-10-18T16:54:10 he set up the cloud servers, so he'll know what to do 2010-10-18T16:54:36 I know there's still a month and a half but I'm getting concerned... 2010-10-18T16:55:06 *** KristianU has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:55:55 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-10-18T16:56:02 *** McLeopold has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:58:37 *** hornairs has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:59:03 *** mogron has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T16:59:18 Just curious what tools people are using on Linux to develop their bots. I'm just using jEdit and a terminal atm. 2010-10-18T16:59:34 Emacs 2010-10-18T16:59:49 there's everything I need for Common Lisp and Bash stuff 2010-10-18T17:00:08 *** cfaftw has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2010-10-18T17:01:53 vim, make 2010-10-18T17:01:59 hg 2010-10-18T17:03:19 mono, hg 2010-10-18T17:03:26 hit 2010-10-18T17:03:29 git* 2010-10-18T17:04:00 eclipse 2010-10-18T17:04:24 +bash scripts 2010-10-18T17:04:28 cd, ls, less 2010-10-18T17:04:54 *** pjreddie has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:05:05 emacs and hg here, even if i don't have started my bot yet 2010-10-18T17:05:14 javagamer: intellij for python, bash scripts for testing, tcp games, etc 2010-10-18T17:06:05 intellij is overkill for python though, but a life saver for java (imho) 2010-10-18T17:06:39 *** delt0r_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:07:41 *** KristianU has left #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:08:04 rebelxt, I see there are two versions, are you using the open-source one? 2010-10-18T17:08:44 *** delt0r___ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2010-10-18T17:09:04 *** Naktibalda has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:09:48 javagamer: i'm lucky to have a license for enterprise version. free version does not have good python support 2010-10-18T17:10:18 eclipse beats intellij's open source version 2010-10-18T17:10:22 Top 10 players: dmj111(4092), Hazard(4039), deepblue(4038), savchenko(4024), DocBot(3989), cfaftw(3953), sequoh(3952), Rexxar(3860), MariusCG(3837), RebelXT(3829) 2010-10-18T17:10:59 *** zerd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-10-18T17:11:13 hg, jedit, terminal 2010-10-18T17:11:22 *** JamesMG_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:11:32 jedit has good syntax highlighting for just about any language, right? 2010-10-18T17:11:38 rebelxt, seems a little odd to be using a closed source IDE on linux, but obviously open source doesn't always have everything a closed source product does 2010-10-18T17:11:45 rebelxt, yeah, as far as I can tell 2010-10-18T17:12:04 jedit's highlighting is at least easy to fix if it needs it 2010-10-18T17:12:10 I use jEdit for Java and SQL, it does pretty well 2010-10-18T17:12:12 *** lovebot has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:12:19 *** synmnky_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:13:25 javagamer: haha, you are right, ultimate intellij is probably the only closed source product i use... they've been giving out licenses to open source projects, so a lot of people got it for free and got addicted to it.. 2010-10-18T17:14:22 only needed for enterprise java development (which i do for a living..) 2010-10-18T17:16:07 *** Itkovian_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:16:48 *** Itkovian has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2010-10-18T17:16:48 *** JamesMG has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2010-10-18T17:16:48 *** lovebot_ has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2010-10-18T17:16:49 *** synmnky has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2010-10-18T17:16:49 *** Itkovian_ is now known as Itkovian 2010-10-18T17:19:52 *** jahnson has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:19:57 curious which scm is winning. who is uding git, mercurial, svn, other? 2010-10-18T17:20:08 git +1 2010-10-18T17:20:36 *** Blkt` has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:21:38 merc 2010-10-18T17:21:44 *** jahnson has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2010-10-18T17:21:45 *** JamesMG_ is now known as JamesMG 2010-10-18T17:21:49 git +1 2010-10-18T17:24:31 *** Blkt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-10-18T17:26:24 *** BtbN has quit IRC (Quit: Verlassend) 2010-10-18T17:28:36 *** Appleman1234 has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:29:26 git also 2010-10-18T17:31:48 hg +1 2010-10-18T17:34:04 *** Azrathud has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:37:47 *** jaspervdj has quit IRC (Quit: NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP NEVER GONNA LET YOU DOWN) 2010-10-18T17:37:56 *** Bobng has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-10-18T17:38:25 *** Bobng has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T17:41:01 *** p4p4 has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [SeaMonkey 2.0a3/20090223135443]) 2010-10-18T17:48:40 *** choas has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2010-10-18T17:49:25 git 2010-10-18T17:50:04 hg 2010-10-18T17:50:11 *** gerald512k has quit IRC () 2010-10-18T17:50:15 *** Blkt` is now known as Blkt 2010-10-18T17:55:55 *** amstan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-10-18T17:56:31 * Mathnerd314 wonders if he would get clubbed for using cvs 2010-10-18T17:57:59 it's stones for sacrilege 2010-10-18T17:58:17 :) 2010-10-18T17:58:20 git +1 2010-10-18T18:01:05 *** Bobng has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2010-10-18T18:02:53 svn+1 2010-10-18T18:04:21 git: 5, hg: 2, svn: 1, cvs: 1 2010-10-18T18:04:39 o wait i use rcs 2010-10-18T18:05:15 rcs still alive?! :) 2010-10-18T18:05:17 also i count 3 hg (JamesMG_ said 'merc') 2010-10-18T18:05:36 what do you use rcs for? 2010-10-18T18:05:38 sorry 2010-10-18T18:05:44 git: 5, hg: 3, svn: 1, cvs: 1 2010-10-18T18:05:46 i use it for sarcasm 2010-10-18T18:05:53 lol 2010-10-18T18:09:12 svn += 1 2010-10-18T18:10:23 Top 10 players: dmj111(4082), Hazard(4033), deepblue(4029), savchenko(4014), DocBot(3984), cfaftw(3954), sequoh(3951), Rexxar(3861), RebelXT(3831), rsergio(3829) 2010-10-18T18:11:27 *** fawek has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-10-18T18:12:11 hg +1 gogogo 2010-10-18T18:12:37 git: 5, hg: 4, svn: 2, cvs: 1 2010-10-18T18:14:33 i use svn for the contest repo but that doesn't count 2010-10-18T18:16:48 *** JamesMG has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2010-10-18T18:18:37 * javagamer is just performing a few manual backups, he didn't consider something like svn for this. 2010-10-18T18:18:41 *** lavalamp_ has quit IRC (Quit: later) 2010-10-18T18:19:12 I guess I always just saw scm for group projects, but thinking about it now I can see how it could very quite useful. 2010-10-18T18:19:23 dropbox for the rescue (free) 2010-10-18T18:19:53 I'm just zip-ing my folder after each major change 2010-10-18T18:25:48 *** SkyDream has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T18:27:58 *** Azrathud has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-10-18T18:28:29 *** Azrathud has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T18:31:52 * phreeza wants an asm starter kit 2010-10-18T18:31:58 *** davidjliu has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-10-18T18:32:35 just objdump -d after you compile the c++ starter 2010-10-18T18:32:39 there you go 2010-10-18T18:35:06 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T18:35:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2010-10-18T18:36:38 *** Azrathud has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2010-10-18T18:37:22 phreeza: asm starter kit = lol 2010-10-18T18:38:00 i was wondering how to get around not being able to specify compiler flags... 2010-10-18T18:39:09 code in python? 2010-10-18T18:39:16 oh wait 2010-10-18T18:39:20 you want to specify them 2010-10-18T18:39:21 doh 2010-10-18T18:39:37 rebel do you know whose bot is bocsimacko 2010-10-18T18:39:51 pretty intresting bot to watch 2010-10-18T18:39:53 no staging at all 2010-10-18T18:40:19 boscimacko - no idea. was going to watch some games tonight and try to guess ;) 2010-10-18T18:41:31 contestbot: rankings 2010-10-18T18:41:32 rebelxt: Top 10 players: dmj111(4088), Hazard(4039), deepblue(4035), savchenko(4019), DocBot(3989), cfaftw(3960), sequoh(3957), Rexxar(3867), RebelXT(3837), rsergio(3833) 2010-10-18T18:41:46 *** amstan has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-10-18T18:41:47 its either a tree bot, since game play seems to be very much like the other couple of treebots i saw 2010-10-18T18:42:01 i am going to try and see if doing no staging makes my bot play better 2010-10-18T18:42:06 boscimacko is someone from ^^^ 2010-10-18T18:42:22 been thinking about it since its a waste to shuttle ships back and forth when they achieve nothing 2010-10-18T18:42:26 his tron bot was pretty good last time 2010-10-18T18:43:12 I'm about to release RamBot into the wild... 2010-10-18T18:43:33 * bhasker waits eagerly to see RamBot 2010-10-18T18:43:35 bhasker: i doubt it's a tree bot though. don't think any tree/heuristic hybrids are currently good enough at the moment 2010-10-18T18:43:42 hmm 2010-10-18T18:44:02 i might write one just to see how it does 2010-10-18T18:44:18 RamBot? ;-) is it memory hungry? 2010-10-18T18:44:24 i think it rams through 2010-10-18T18:45:01 *** mogron has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-10-18T18:45:21 bocsimacko is mega1's bot btw 2010-10-18T18:45:23 a1k0n: ahh so boscimacko might not even have an official submission yet. interesting 2010-10-18T18:45:29 it totally rams through, and uses losts of ram 2010-10-18T18:45:31 ahh got it! 2010-10-18T18:45:54 lots of cpu cycles too? 2010-10-18T18:46:13 I gotta fix part, though. 2010-10-18T18:46:35 *** Appleman1234 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2010-10-18T18:47:37 rebelxt: I've just submitted b0.22 2010-10-18T18:47:58 it lost the first game for some reason when being clearly ahead 2010-10-18T18:48:01 mega1: nice, it should do well 2010-10-18T18:48:20 mega1: gonna take ~2 days though to get up there 2010-10-18T18:48:26 2-3d 2010-10-18T18:48:42 if it keeps losing like this it won't 2010-10-18T18:48:59 mega1: did you replay that game locally? not a time-out? 2010-10-18T18:49:26 *** groudan has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T18:49:41 official server does not currently report time-outs at all - i got hit by this a few days ago 2010-10-18T18:50:24 rebelxt: I haven't replayed it, but it uses the same timeout mechanism as my tron bot. 2010-10-18T18:50:51 bhasker: I hope your running tcp right now. 2010-10-18T18:50:53 got it - link to the game? 2010-10-18T18:51:13 yea i am 2010-10-18T18:51:16 but my bot has gotten wose 2010-10-18T18:51:18 worse* 2010-10-18T18:51:21 with all the changes i have made 2010-10-18T18:51:28 @36 now 2010-10-18T18:51:29 bhasker: No! 2010-10-18T18:51:33 I'm running the b0.22-dirty with two big bugs fixed -> -250 elo 2010-10-18T18:51:49 even that b0.22 is beating the crap out of my bot:( 2010-10-18T18:52:12 the one with the bug fixes is _worse_ 2010-10-18T18:52:14 I'm playing phreeze now... 2010-10-18T18:52:25 my new alpha bot wants to use 5 minutes per turn to get somewhat close to matching 50-ms per turn previous version. /sigh 2010-10-18T18:52:26 *phreeza 2010-10-18T18:53:18 *** mceier has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2010-10-18T18:53:29 5 minutes per turn O_o how can you use that much time ? 2010-10-18T18:53:52 b0.22 beating my bot:( 2010-10-18T18:53:52 http://72.44.46.68/canvas?game_id=556794 2010-10-18T18:54:58 bhasker: what happened to your defense code? 2010-10-18T18:55:04 that's b0.22-dirty 2010-10-18T18:55:33 the problem is with how i changed when i send ships forward 2010-10-18T18:55:37 and some other stuff 2010-10-18T18:55:42 so its a bit more conservative 2010-10-18T18:55:47 as a result i have ships piled up at the back 2010-10-18T18:55:53 when my front is being destroyed:-\ 2010-10-18T18:56:05 hmm... that corner planet would be tough to hold since he is much closer. 2010-10-18T18:56:46 you lose on turn 14 when attaking first the central planet ... 2010-10-18T18:56:51 yea 2010-10-18T18:57:02 i need to stop attacking the central planet first 2010-10-18T18:57:32 I do have some staging but it doesn't really work. 2010-10-18T18:57:33 SkyDream: easy... very poor implementation of tree search 2010-10-18T18:57:52 bhasker: yeah that 41 neutral attack was a suicide 2010-10-18T18:58:09 yea i need to be a bit more conservative 2010-10-18T18:58:11 I think the center was fine, it was that you didn't protect the corner, or you didn't do anything with the ships at the center. 2010-10-18T18:58:15 another game where i suicided 2010-10-18T18:58:21 http://72.44.46.68/canvas?game_id=557210 2010-10-18T18:58:24 took the central 2010-10-18T18:58:25 and died 2010-10-18T18:59:08 not sure why it went for the 76 2010-10-18T18:59:11 when there was a 60 in my base 2010-10-18T18:59:24 76 is a bit steep for the first turn 2010-10-18T19:00:50 bhasker: you might have mis-calculated how much aid opponent can send to the neutral vs your max reinforcement (including time to make profit into account) 2010-10-18T19:00:51 RamBot wins against voidptr. :) It's must not be too bad. 2010-10-18T19:01:16 is it a python bot? it can't be bad by definition! 2010-10-18T19:01:33 You haven't watched MoldBot, have you? 2010-10-18T19:01:34 probably 2010-10-18T19:01:39 is it better to first arrange planets in trees to make faster search ? 2010-10-18T19:01:43 will have to check the logs later 2010-10-18T19:02:59 i recall crow and ant, but not mold ;) 2010-10-18T19:03:15 RamBot's games are fun to watch on fast forward 2010-10-18T19:03:41 MoldBot looked like a drunk deepblue. 2010-10-18T19:03:49 rofl 2010-10-18T19:04:08 fast forward? what viewer are you using? 2010-10-18T19:04:35 is it any way to test my bot on windows ? 2010-10-18T19:04:51 i just keep right button pushed down in the stock canvas visualizer 2010-10-18T19:04:57 SkyDream: all the java tools should work the same. 2010-10-18T19:05:21 cool! 2010-10-18T19:05:35 Oh crap, lost to bhasker. :( 2010-10-18T19:06:01 *** bhasker_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T19:06:09 http://72.44.46.68/canvas?game_id=557293 2010-10-18T19:06:28 first turn home planet attack? 2010-10-18T19:06:38 victory rambot 2010-10-18T19:06:42 http://72.44.46.68/canvas?game_id=557293 2010-10-18T19:06:57 hmm... I thought I fixed that... 2010-10-18T19:06:58 *** JensTi1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-10-18T19:08:18 *** bhasker has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-10-18T19:09:33 *** bhasker has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T19:09:46 *** jmpespxoreax has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T19:10:24 Top 10 players: Hazard(4077), dmj111(4067), savchenko(4052), deepblue(4021), cfaftw(4014), rsergio(4007), DocBot(3972), sequoh(3908), Rexxar(3872), Manwe56(3831) 2010-10-18T19:11:58 *** bhasker_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-10-18T19:14:08 *** rebelxt has left #aichallenge 2010-10-18T19:15:44 ping! 2010-10-18T19:16:21 ping 2010-10-18T19:16:41 *** mrSpec has quit IRC (Quit: mrSpec) 2010-10-18T19:20:26 *** yasith has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2010-10-18T19:20:36 whoa, win against CCCF... 2010-10-18T19:22:28 *** JensTi has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T19:23:50 nice 2010-10-18T19:28:34 *** rebelxt has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T19:30:17 second win against CCCF. \o/ 2010-10-18T19:30:43 *** SkyDream has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-10-18T19:31:53 *** Arthur has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T19:33:04 *** yasith has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T19:33:09 *** davidjliu has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T19:39:19 *** dmj111` has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T19:41:46 dmj111: I tried using your python tcp client. It worked. 2010-10-18T19:43:07 *** dmj111 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2010-10-18T19:54:29 *** wh1teside has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2010-10-18T19:55:05 *** smloh1 has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T19:58:19 *** McLeopold has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2010-10-18T20:00:30 *** rebelxt has left #aichallenge 2010-10-18T20:02:36 *** Itkovian has quit IRC (Quit: Itkovian) 2010-10-18T20:10:24 Top 10 players: Hazard(4073), dmj111(4065), savchenko(4047), deepblue(4016), cfaftw(4013), rsergio(4004), DocBot(3970), sequoh(3907), Rexxar(3873), Manwe56(3830) 2010-10-18T20:11:27 *** JensTi has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2010-10-18T20:13:51 *** sigh_ is now known as sigh 2010-10-18T20:15:37 *** nullkuhl has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T20:23:42 *** hornairs has quit IRC (Quit: hornairs) 2010-10-18T20:35:46 *** JensT1 has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T20:36:50 *** nullkuhl has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-10-18T20:38:09 *** narnach1 has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T20:44:04 *** narnach has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2010-10-18T20:45:02 *** narnach has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T20:47:45 *** cfaftw has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T20:47:55 hi 2010-10-18T20:49:08 hey 2010-10-18T20:49:13 my tree searching bot is quite delusional... :( 2010-10-18T20:49:24 mine isn't going amazing yet 2010-10-18T20:49:46 *** narnach has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2010-10-18T20:49:53 *** narnach1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2010-10-18T20:50:54 search depth is just too shallow in mine... need to do it on a more abstract level i think 2010-10-18T20:51:22 *** hornairs has joined #aichallenge 2010-10-18T20:52:09 lol i just won against dimishwit2.2meh 2010-10-18T20:52:11 eh 2010-10-18T20:52:18 bocsimacko-b0.22 2010-10-18T20:52:19 *** iFire