2010-11-25T00:08:30 *** davidjliu has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T00:19:16 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3489), Raschi(3280), SUA.khb(3267), Slin-.-(3241), dmj111(3229), bix0r4ever(3218), Neverstu(3213), luksian(3142), medrimonia(3140), thedreamer(3115) 2010-11-25T00:19:32 bah.. 2010-11-25T00:19:55 I keep losing because the enemy has things en-route to my planet,and I attack just before they get there 2010-11-25T00:25:09 *** delt0r has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T00:26:26 *** delt0r___ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2010-11-25T00:26:58 *** Azrathud has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2010-11-25T00:29:05 time to implement defense :) 2010-11-25T00:34:54 *** rebelxt_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T00:36:23 *** fgump has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T00:36:58 ya, tryign to figure out how to do it, without completely crippling it when under duress 2010-11-25T00:49:49 mega1: still beating everyone else into pulp whenever you don't time out? 2010-11-25T01:00:49 *** Appleman1234 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T01:03:04 *** tapwater has quit IRC (Quit: tapwater) 2010-11-25T01:03:36 *** rebelxt_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-11-25T01:04:02 *** narnach has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T01:14:12 *** virdo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2010-11-25T01:19:17 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3491), Raschi(3249), dmj111(3234), bix0r4ever(3226), SUA.khb(3209), medrimonia(3164), Slin-.-(3158), luksian(3140), felixcoto(3110), wagstaff(3107) 2010-11-25T01:21:13 Whee, just disabled 732 accounts in one shot :) 2010-11-25T01:21:19 haha 2010-11-25T01:21:29 oops.. 2010-11-25T01:21:34 have to check mine 2010-11-25T01:21:36 Nah it was on purpose 2010-11-25T01:22:03 I guess technically it doesn't count as disabling them since they weren't enabled 2010-11-25T01:22:16 it was all unactivated accounts over 1 week old 2010-11-25T01:23:03 unactivated? like.. they didn't ever log in? 2010-11-25T01:23:28 never responded to the confirmation email 2010-11-25T01:31:41 *** Utkarsh has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2010-11-25T01:34:54 *** sigh has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-11-25T01:36:41 *** Utkarsh has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T01:40:50 *** rebelxt_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T01:41:26 janzert: hey 2010-11-25T01:41:35 yes? 2010-11-25T01:42:17 quick question on final tournament 2010-11-25T01:43:05 are you guys planning to limit games to top100 at some point? i'm afraid ratings are going to be very unstable if every account participates until the very end of the tourney 2010-11-25T01:43:29 why would that make it be any less stable? 2010-11-25T01:43:47 I'm hoping it won't have to get all the way down to top 100 but yes the bottom ranks will be slowly eliminated 2010-11-25T01:44:19 should just automatically purge any submissions, that are identical to any other submissions 2010-11-25T01:44:20 burny, number of games between opponents determine how precise ELO scores are 2010-11-25T01:44:31 or have only 4bytes difference 2010-11-25T01:44:57 rebel: so you just mean.. that they won't be able to play as many games? 2010-11-25T01:45:32 burny: yes, the bottom rankings just will play less games than top will end up with 2010-11-25T01:45:32 janzert: ok that's great. i noticed that it currently takes about 5 days for the submission to get a stable ELO score 2010-11-25T01:47:47 rebelxt_: with the constant resubmission of opponents I think depending on where you are in the rankings it can be about impossible to get enough games that count for the rankings to settle down really well 2010-11-25T01:48:07 near the top is probably actually the worst for this 2010-11-25T01:48:24 *** Mathnerd314 has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) 2010-11-25T01:48:27 but something that can't really be helped until submissions close 2010-11-25T01:48:57 janzert: yeah i noticed. mine keeps jumping all over the map in the rankings today 2010-11-25T01:49:37 *** Mathnerd314_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T01:49:54 *** Mathnerd314_ is now known as Mathnerd314 2010-11-25T01:51:38 if you let top100 duke it out for just one hour, it appears that every bot would get about one game per minute, which should stabilize ratings really well (total is 4600 bots it appears) 2010-11-25T01:53:07 janzert: can i "donate" another EC2 server for the final tourney? it's already set up using the AMI you use 2010-11-25T01:53:52 *** Appleman1234 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2010-11-25T01:54:36 *** Appleman1234 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T01:55:29 unfortunately I'm not sure how we could accept it without also making you ineligible to participate 2010-11-25T01:56:22 We are planning on firing up some more instances though :) 2010-11-25T01:56:37 janzert: yeah sorry i realized this would be hard to do from security standpoint :( i do want to participate of course.. oh well 2010-11-25T01:56:41 Just have to see how many workers the main server can end up feeding 2010-11-25T01:57:32 does main server pass bot binaries to the workers? 2010-11-25T01:57:40 *** jaspervdj has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T01:57:54 more servers planned = awesome! 2010-11-25T01:58:11 they are recompiled on the worker if it's a non-portable language but basically yes 2010-11-25T01:58:12 for more contests, I can get access to roughly 80 2Ghz 4gig ram systems, 12-16hours/day 2010-11-25T01:58:38 burny: nice you should talk to j3camero about it 2010-11-25T01:59:46 i think eburnette has everyone beat with 1600 cores ;-) 2010-11-25T02:01:11 janzert: one potential thing to look into is spot pricing for the workers (unless you guys have reserved instances). i've been using it for the tcp server, and savings are great compared to normal rates 2010-11-25T02:01:36 yeah, we've been using spot instances the whole time 2010-11-25T02:02:16 nice! 2010-11-25T02:04:45 *** McLeopold has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T02:05:01 McLeopold: yo 2010-11-25T02:05:06 hi 2010-11-25T02:05:25 just wrote a script for analyzing player stats on zeroviz. want it? 2010-11-25T02:05:30 Do you have a good number for when you should not capture a growth one? 2010-11-25T02:05:41 Yes 2010-11-25T02:06:48 http://pastebin.com/z0R3xJAC 2010-11-25T02:07:21 for instance: 2010-11-25T02:07:25 python parse_zero_compare.py rebelxt215 rebelxt216 2010-11-25T02:07:53 can pass one player, then it just does stats for that player, or can do comparison for 2+ players 2010-11-25T02:10:28 McLeopold: i only take growth into account indirectly.. i.e. looking what profit i get within a certain horizon. and i do have a threshold value which usually eliminates growth 1 planets unless they are really cheap and very close 2010-11-25T02:11:19 i hate having this threshold value but i tried to replace it with 100's lines of code and ended up with weaker bots.. 2010-11-25T02:11:31 Do you what your cutoff is? I'm think 50ish 2010-11-25T02:11:43 Which is 1/4 of the game. 2010-11-25T02:11:47 you mean horizon? 2010-11-25T02:11:48 *** narnach has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2010-11-25T02:11:57 for growth 1, it's the same thing 2010-11-25T02:12:53 that's about right. mine changes but usually is a bit higher than 50, and is capped when getting close to 200 2010-11-25T02:13:58 I'm seeing my bot take some 58+1 and 87+1 planets. 2010-11-25T02:14:13 I've looked at mega1's bot, and we will lose a game rather than attempt it. 2010-11-25T02:14:20 he will 2010-11-25T02:15:14 mine still loses some games due to resisting taking relatively cheap 1 or 2 growth :( 2010-11-25T02:16:02 58+1 - mine would never touch this currently since max distance is 30 2010-11-25T02:16:24 does that mean it wouldn't touch a 61+2? 2010-11-25T02:16:35 woot.. my ai is uber now.. 2010-11-25T02:16:36 http://ai-contest.com/visualizer.php?game_id=8587255 2010-11-25T02:18:16 61+2 is no go even it's within dist 2 from me. just above the threshold 2010-11-25T02:18:44 I keep considering putting it in, but I hate to write code like that. 2010-11-25T02:18:56 I'd feel better if a made a formula from something. 2010-11-25T02:19:09 yeah.. hope you have better luck not having a cut off like i do.. it really hurts sometimes 2010-11-25T02:19:10 *** closedbracket has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2010-11-25T02:19:12 *** PopeJob has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T02:19:17 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3491), bix0r4ever(3278), davidjliu(3258), dmj111(3243), Raschi(3214), Slin-.-(3182), luksian(3153), medrimonia(3149), felixcoto(3115), _Astek_(3112) 2010-11-25T02:20:22 this issue has been #1 on my TODO list for almost two months.. still could not get rid of it without making bot weaker. this frigging constant hurts my eyes ;) 2010-11-25T02:20:28 rebel where do i get the beautiful soup module for your script 2010-11-25T02:20:48 rebelxt_: btw, use tcp.zeroviz.us 2010-11-25T02:20:53 port 8080 will dissapear 2010-11-25T02:21:06 btw mcleopold got 3 more wins against mega1 though a lot more losses too 2010-11-25T02:21:13 bhasker: http://www.crummy.com/software/BeautifulSoup/#Download - unpack and run python setup.py install 2010-11-25T02:21:17 cool, that's better than me 2010-11-25T02:21:21 huzzah, i've worked out how to do my ideal game tree :) 2010-11-25T02:21:42 http://zeroviz.us:8080/canvas.cgi?game_id=25469 2010-11-25T02:21:58 McLeopold: how's your bot coming along? 2010-11-25T02:21:58 http://zeroviz.us:8080/canvas.cgi?game_id=25270 2010-11-25T02:22:00 McLeopold: ok port 80 it is 2010-11-25T02:22:07 http://zeroviz.us:8080/canvas.cgi?game_id=25170 2010-11-25T02:22:10 http://zeroviz.us:8080/canvas.cgi?game_id=25166 2010-11-25T02:22:57 4 wins 2010-11-25T02:23:14 bhasker: when this script does comparison for 2 players (say A and B), it calculates set of players that both A and B have played in the last 3 days, and does W/L ratio stats for each player 2010-11-25T02:23:24 ah k 2010-11-25T02:23:44 let me query who is beating mega1 the most 2010-11-25T02:24:44 malazan-max Totals: 57 win ratio, 377 wins, 279 losses 2010-11-25T02:24:44 rebelxt215 Totals: 54 win ratio, 410 wins, 341 losses 2010-11-25T02:24:56 hmm but my bot is rated below yours 2010-11-25T02:27:19 bhasker: yeah different mix of opponents.. i would not compare win ratio unless both bots are yours and you run them at the same time 2010-11-25T02:27:31 rebelxt_: you should toss in a if __name__ == '__main__' snipet. 2010-11-25T02:28:08 losses for all three versions of mega1's bot: 2010-11-25T02:28:25 smiley: 11 rebelxt 11, malazan-max: 4, charmeleon: 10 2010-11-25T02:30:01 *** zeratul has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2010-11-25T02:32:19 i've been beating mega1's latest 0.79 the most. that's weird 2010-11-25T02:33:03 McLeopold: yeah, this was quick and dirty 2010-11-25T02:33:30 I'll bake it into the "good" version of a tcp server after the deadline 2010-11-25T02:33:52 In fact, I hope to get something good on bitbucket. 2010-11-25T02:34:10 McLeopold: this would rock for the next contest 2010-11-25T02:34:35 I've got lots of idea's for tcp server goodness. :) 2010-11-25T02:35:00 @rankings 30 2010-11-25T02:35:02 McLeopold: Top 30 players: bocsimacko(3491), bix0r4ever(3278), davidjliu(3258), dmj111(3243), Raschi(3214), Slin-.-(3182), luksian(3153), medrimonia(3149), felixcoto(3115), _Astek_(3112), george(3102), wagstaff(3099), SUA.khb(3087), Manwe56(3085), ludakris(3084), protocolocon(3084), shangas(3071), ChrisH(3070), BaronTrozo(3068), asavis(3067), Accoun(3060), _iouri_(3054), sajmon(3053), (1 more message) 2010-11-25T02:36:06 rebelxt_: you're only 38 on official? 2010-11-25T02:36:35 yep :( 2010-11-25T02:36:45 competitions fierce 2010-11-25T02:36:50 i better at least get 1st in australia 2010-11-25T02:36:53 Is it an older version on tcp? 2010-11-25T02:37:05 bah.. some sort of screwy bug :( 2010-11-25T02:37:06 http://ai-contest.com/visualizer.php?game_id=8588818 2010-11-25T02:38:24 nah, that's current and newer version on your tcp. both are not very strong :( 2010-11-25T02:39:07 hmm. I'm doubting my chances for a top 10 then... 2010-11-25T02:41:06 well, looking at our earlier games, i think you are very close to getting there 2010-11-25T02:41:17 But I lost a bunch 2010-11-25T02:43:53 can't win 'em all. we should get more games in so that you have a better idea. i should have another stable bot soon.. 2010-11-25T02:44:28 the level is going crazy^^ 2010-11-25T02:45:08 Everyone is trying to improve his bot 2010-11-25T02:45:09 McLeopold: you were 2-2 against my latest version but you pwned my older version 6-1 2010-11-25T02:45:23 hmm... 2010-11-25T02:46:32 i don't think we played many enough games to get a good picture.. and imho antbot is way stronger than rebelxt216 2010-11-25T02:47:34 medrimonia: yeah it's crazy.. last day will be brutal with so many people submitting their latest and greatest 2010-11-25T02:47:48 i hope to get mine up tomorrow 2010-11-25T02:48:08 I don't know if I'll update a bot during the few hours, it'll be to risky 2010-11-25T02:48:27 I've still all my attack part to review 2010-11-25T02:48:33 there's still just under 3 days 2010-11-25T02:49:09 My way of attacking the opponent really sucks 2010-11-25T02:49:34 i'm redesigning my game tree so i can consider them expanding too 2010-11-25T02:49:36 i might just fix a couple of bugs and submit early.. too easy to screw it up by major surgery 2010-11-25T02:49:51 and i'm eliminating my tree from trying to cancel moves they "make" 2010-11-25T02:50:10 it'll either work or fail miserably 2010-11-25T02:50:11 I've been doing really big changes since three days and it's beginning to pay 2010-11-25T02:51:19 But it's easy to have really an idea of how much will my bot be ranked because it has played only 18 games on official 2010-11-25T02:51:31 and tcp is not for my connection... 2010-11-25T02:51:58 depending of hours I've between a tenth and a half of times out 2010-11-25T02:51:59 ahh that's a bummer. maybe rent a server on EC2 for a few days? would only cost a few $ 2010-11-25T02:52:23 *** yasith has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-11-25T02:53:01 I think I'll just try to fix and verify that the changes aren't bad by watching my losses on tcp 2010-11-25T02:59:12 night all 2010-11-25T02:59:38 *** rebelxt_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T03:05:06 *** yasith has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T03:05:48 *** Mathnerd314 has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.2.12/20101026210630]) 2010-11-25T03:11:00 *** amriedle has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) 2010-11-25T03:16:17 *** Mistmanov has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T03:18:37 heh, figured out my bug.. 2010-11-25T03:19:00 AI wasn't ever considering attacking from a planet, until it was attacked by a fleet which was larger then the planets growth 2010-11-25T03:19:16 stupid uninitialized variables hehe 2010-11-25T03:19:17 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3489), davidjliu(3385), bix0r4ever(3321), dmj111(3246), Slin-.-(3194), medrimonia(3173), luksian(3147), felixcoto(3125), _Astek_(3120), Neverstu(3118) 2010-11-25T03:20:13 I think adding defense capabilities though, made it so it's also a wicked sniper.. will have to see :) 2010-11-25T03:21:59 no more active server =( 2010-11-25T03:25:14 looks like bocs has some new competition 2010-11-25T03:31:19 bocsimacko = mega1 ? 2010-11-25T03:31:27 yes 2010-11-25T03:31:40 Accoun: you have been beating b0.79 :-( 2010-11-25T03:31:43 mega1> give me the formula!!! 8-) 2010-11-25T03:32:13 Accoun: tell me how started to beat it suddenly :-) 2010-11-25T03:32:22 *how you started 2010-11-25T03:33:06 mega1> start to play well? 2010-11-25T03:33:30 *** aerique has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T03:33:30 possibly, but why not beat b0.75 then? 2010-11-25T03:33:50 oh, you do beat b0.75 too 2010-11-25T03:34:09 mega1> i dont konw, realy 2010-11-25T03:34:09 getting worried? :P 2010-11-25T03:34:20 mega1> ma bot is set of bug 2010-11-25T03:34:24 mega1> my bot is set of bug 2010-11-25T03:34:27 hehe 2010-11-25T03:34:37 oh man.. accoun's going for the top! 2010-11-25T03:34:46 antimatroid1: I've been worried for a long time 2010-11-25T03:35:02 amstan: everyone is 2010-11-25T03:35:02 Accoun: will we still be "chitty" if you win? 2010-11-25T03:35:22 *** delt0r has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2010-11-25T03:35:24 antimatroid1: yeah, but he's beating mega1 apparently 2010-11-25T03:36:07 wow.. gota be one of the fastest games ever: http://ai-contest.com/visualizer.php?game_id=8592529 2010-11-25T03:36:41 i've seen games end in under 10 turns :P 2010-11-25T03:36:54 my bots started to lose quite a bit more in the past couple of hours 2010-11-25T03:36:58 on a big map I meant :P 2010-11-25T03:37:14 just fyi server's going to be slow/close to unresponsive for a while 2010-11-25T03:37:21 that's cool 2010-11-25T03:37:25 i don't have a bot up :) 2010-11-25T03:37:36 mega1> not apparently 2010-11-25T03:37:53 *** pyro- has left #aichallenge 2010-11-25T03:37:54 mega1> very less times 2010-11-25T03:37:54 ba. I was trying to load a game to watch :( 2010-11-25T03:38:12 *** narnach has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T03:38:13 *** narnach is now known as narnach_mb 2010-11-25T03:38:58 mega1> i now u sell soul to devil 8-) 2010-11-25T03:39:10 I would 2010-11-25T03:39:12 janzert: what's going on? 2010-11-25T03:39:16 janz.. can't even load profile pages anymore 2010-11-25T03:39:33 reddit broke too 2010-11-25T03:39:42 what am i meant to do? program? 2010-11-25T03:39:48 antimatroid1: no.. reddit's fine 2010-11-25T03:39:52 amstan: archiving games, haven't done it in quite a while 2010-11-25T03:40:06 janzert: can't you change priority? 2010-11-25T03:40:15 it locks the table 2010-11-25T03:40:20 or seems to anyway 2010-11-25T03:40:21 ugh 2010-11-25T03:40:23 mysql 2010-11-25T03:40:28 yeah 2010-11-25T03:40:37 well, tiem to go to bed then lol 2010-11-25T03:40:51 atleast it looked like my defense code was working right :) 2010-11-25T03:40:52 will posgres give us better performance? 2010-11-25T03:41:13 wanted to do it one last time tonight so it goes quicker when we start the finals 2010-11-25T03:41:31 kinda exceited about how high it might climb in ranks now though :( 2010-11-25T03:41:56 amstan: I think it might, but I'm not really qualified to answer it definitively 2010-11-25T03:42:27 janzert: maybe i should spend a little researching it before deciding on the one for next contest 2010-11-25T03:42:46 *** Zoost has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2010-11-25T03:43:12 in either case main server with more ram would help for sure 2010-11-25T03:43:24 and I think is going to be a requirement for next one 2010-11-25T03:44:16 may also need to split to a dedicated database server next time 2010-11-25T03:44:26 depends on growth I suppose 2010-11-25T03:45:09 we should anticipate at least double this one 2010-11-25T03:46:31 you got about 5 times the last one for this 2010-11-25T03:46:41 actually, probably more 2010-11-25T03:47:55 hence the at least 2010-11-25T03:53:58 *** McLeopold has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2010-11-25T03:58:33 *** Kingpin13 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T04:03:45 *** Ice_Harley has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T04:04:12 *** Utkarsh has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2010-11-25T04:04:14 site is dead? 2010-11-25T04:04:44 yes, hopefully back soon 2010-11-25T04:05:09 ok 2010-11-25T04:09:49 *** Utkarsh has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T04:10:56 *** perror has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T04:17:37 now working, thanks 2010-11-25T04:18:22 *** delt0r has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T04:19:18 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3491), davidjliu(3419), bix0r4ever(3374), dmj111(3247), medrimonia(3176), Neverstu(3174), asavis(3171), Slin-.-(3165), luksian(3152), felixcoto(3131) 2010-11-25T04:28:58 *** delt0r has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2010-11-25T04:35:14 *** Naktibalda has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T04:47:33 *** ebel has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T04:51:15 *** pccc has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-11-25T04:56:33 Submissions working? 2010-11-25T04:57:19 Nov 25th 03:43:10 ready to be compiled Unknown 2010-11-25T04:57:38 11 min 2010-11-25T04:57:47 Oops, sorry I shut compiling down while doing some database work 2010-11-25T04:57:51 should be back now 2010-11-25T05:03:01 *** delt0r has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T05:03:14 *** Rubicon-|-Cross has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T05:03:27 *** Mistmanov has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T05:14:00 wtf is going on, on tcp we are all dropping and on official aswell :S 2010-11-25T05:14:10 are there so many resubmissions? 2010-11-25T05:15:08 the rate of submission on the main site is 1.5 times or more what it was before yesterday 2010-11-25T05:18:09 I see 2010-11-25T05:18:16 so its incredibly unstable 2010-11-25T05:19:19 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3490), davidjliu(3425), bix0r4ever(3339), dmj111(3250), luksian(3149), Slin-.-(3138), felixcoto(3121), Manwe56(3120), medrimonia(3117), Neverstu(3110) 2010-11-25T05:19:41 *** mceier has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T05:20:54 *** amriedle has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T05:22:36 janzert: will all scores be completely resetted? 2010-11-25T05:23:12 *** Veraciou1 has left #aichallenge 2010-11-25T05:23:19 yes 2010-11-25T05:24:50 yep 2010-11-25T05:39:37 Accoun: http://72.44.46.68/canvas?game_id=1202296 2010-11-25T05:39:40 what happened there 2010-11-25T05:56:18 I kinda wish GABot's names were a little shorter, they interfere with the layout of the visualizer 2010-11-25T06:00:19 aerique: you could talk to him 2010-11-25T06:01:46 janzert: too many connections error 2010-11-25T06:02:01 wait, now it's fine 2010-11-25T06:02:39 *** delt0r___ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T06:03:08 sorry I'm still off and on doing nasty things to the database, the poor abused thing. 2010-11-25T06:03:48 janzert: you evil man, lol 2010-11-25T06:04:07 *** delt0r has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2010-11-25T06:05:35 lol 2010-11-25T06:18:40 hmmm, it's very crippling on my tree to try and have them expand too 2010-11-25T06:19:19 Top 10 players: 2010-11-25T06:23:55 *** delt0r___ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2010-11-25T06:33:23 *** winexception has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T06:39:49 *** medrimonia has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2010-11-25T06:39:58 *** medrimonia has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T06:46:33 hmmm, i wonder what proportion of contestants are redditors 2010-11-25T06:47:18 more than a couple of days ago? 2010-11-25T06:47:51 * Naktibalda is too 2010-11-25T06:48:28 no, even before that 2010-11-25T06:53:48 @rankings 2010-11-25T06:53:49 antimatroid1: Top 10 players: luksian(3634), bocsimacko(3501), davidjliu(3464), bix0r4ever(3303), dmj111(3248), _Astek_(3197), medrimonia(3150), felixcoto(3142), Manwe56(3130), george(3090) 2010-11-25T06:53:55 t'wont last though 2010-11-25T06:54:24 mega1: is this your final upload? 2010-11-25T06:54:32 I hope not 2010-11-25T06:55:00 this is b0.75, the current baseline. I hope to fix b0.79. 2010-11-25T06:56:08 b0.79 beats b0.75 soundly but has trouble on tcp 2010-11-25T07:00:30 from timeouts? 2010-11-25T07:00:35 have you tried it on official? 2010-11-25T07:00:56 there were a few timeouts too, but not too many 2010-11-25T07:01:24 it just loses the opening against Accoun and others too 2010-11-25T07:01:46 haven't tried it on the official, it's impossible to wait so many days 2010-11-25T07:07:31 *** amriedle has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) 2010-11-25T07:19:19 Top 10 players: davidjliu(3498), _Astek_(3387), luksian(3373), bix0r4ever(3350), dmj111(3254), medrimonia(3168), felixcoto(3150), Manwe56(3134), asavis(3095), george(3094) 2010-11-25T07:28:57 *** Migi32 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T07:36:23 mega1: tcp is also quite unreliable though :/ 2010-11-25T07:36:34 its really hard to test 2010-11-25T07:36:46 lets say you have two bots A and B 2010-11-25T07:36:51 yes, it is, but I don't know anything better 2010-11-25T07:36:54 A > B 2010-11-25T07:37:04 but B > tcp 2010-11-25T07:37:07 and A < tcp 2010-11-25T07:37:20 now let them play both and A will come on top 2010-11-25T07:37:35 let them play after eachother and you don't really know anything either 2010-11-25T07:37:44 because of the high instability of tcp 2010-11-25T07:38:20 this stuff scares me 2010-11-25T07:38:50 the population on official isn't stationary either 2010-11-25T07:38:53 it's a moving target. 2010-11-25T07:40:18 perhaps we should figure out a way to exchange bots for local testing for next challenge 2010-11-25T07:40:31 yeah exactly 2010-11-25T07:40:35 especially now 2010-11-25T07:40:38 its crazy 2010-11-25T07:40:45 so all you got is local testing 2010-11-25T07:40:47 :/ 2010-11-25T07:41:09 if the changes are really small atleast 2010-11-25T07:41:12 *** fgump has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) 2010-11-25T07:41:26 using a virtualbox image running the same os as the server is the first thing that comes to mind 2010-11-25T07:41:32 *** fgump has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T07:45:14 I tested 0.75 and 0.79 on benzendrine and zeroviz 2010-11-25T07:45:28 more than 200 games 2010-11-25T07:45:47 on benz 0.79 lost by 88 elo 2010-11-25T07:46:13 on zeroviz it won by 21 2010-11-25T07:46:25 *** fgump has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2010-11-25T07:46:37 maybe it's just too few games, I don't know 2010-11-25T07:47:03 yea... 2010-11-25T07:48:33 and 0.77 that should be a safe upgrade to 0.75 lost on both ... 2010-11-25T07:49:01 I cluster would have come handy. 2010-11-25T07:49:06 s/I/a/ 2010-11-25T07:56:20 hi all 2010-11-25T07:56:31 how many hours are left? :) 2010-11-25T07:57:48 *** medrimonia2 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T07:57:49 *** medrimonia3 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T07:59:37 *** medrimonia has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2010-11-25T08:00:07 *** medrimonia1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2010-11-25T08:03:19 dunno, not much :P 2010-11-25T08:06:57 i give myself about 48 hours before i want my final bot up 2010-11-25T08:16:24 *** PopeJob has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-11-25T08:16:30 isn't there still 2 days? 2010-11-25T08:17:33 *** Palmik has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T08:19:20 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3592), davidjliu(3443), bix0r4ever(3318), dmj111(3268), Raschi(3202), _Astek_(3197), medrimonia(3172), Manwe56(3145), felixcoto(3141), george(3088) 2010-11-25T08:28:21 *** Abrackadabra has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T08:28:39 Hello world! 2010-11-25T08:29:35 Is there anybody out there? 2010-11-25T08:29:59 no 2010-11-25T08:34:36 *** delt0r___ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T08:37:07 morning 2010-11-25T08:37:48 canadian servers alweus down 2010-11-25T08:38:30 the want to hide chiting behaind servers down 2010-11-25T08:38:36 he want to hide chiting behaind servers down 2010-11-25T08:38:53 its surprising how many bots have a problem with calculating available ships 2010-11-25T08:39:00 large incoming fleets usually paralyze most bots a 2010-11-25T08:39:05 http://72.44.46.68/canvas?game_id=1204704 2010-11-25T08:40:15 oh this game is nice http://72.44.46.68/canvas?game_id=1204373 2010-11-25T08:58:56 *** Appleman1234 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-11-25T08:59:54 *** bnjmn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-11-25T09:01:35 *** bnjmn has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T09:08:24 hmm 0.23 is a reasonably strong bot, its still holding 43 despite not changing it in last few days 2010-11-25T09:19:21 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3562), davidjliu(3426), Fill_the_Missing(3295), bix0r4ever(3264), dmj111(3247), _Astek_(3198), felixcoto(3136), medrimonia(3131), Manwe56(3124), smloh1(3095) 2010-11-25T09:27:25 *** Mistmanov has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T09:29:37 rebelXt around? 2010-11-25T09:39:16 *** sjl has quit IRC (Quit: sjl) 2010-11-25T09:43:21 *** Abrackadabra has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T09:49:48 mega1 around? 2010-11-25T09:53:40 * Mistmanov sees tumbleweed blow by 2010-11-25T09:53:49 http://ai-contest.com/visualizer.php?game_id=8611048 2010-11-25T09:53:55 this bot is nice 2010-11-25T09:54:00 #2 right now though 2010-11-25T09:54:05 but only 4 games 2010-11-25T09:55:00 yeah I noticed. but 6 submissions in one day, so that screws up the ranking 2010-11-25T09:55:15 true 2010-11-25T09:55:35 well my new version seems to beat mega every now and then lol 2010-11-25T09:55:41 like maybe 1 in 10 or so 2010-11-25T09:55:55 http://zeroviz.us:8080/canvas.cgi?game_id=27182 2010-11-25T09:57:07 =) yeah, no one has written a bot that does perfectly on every map 2010-11-25T09:57:35 that's not what I expected btw. I would've thought that the top bot would just win all the time, every map 2010-11-25T09:57:46 yea this game is too complex 2010-11-25T09:57:51 probably with more time per turn 2010-11-25T09:57:53 that might be possible 2010-11-25T09:58:07 i think 1 second per turn is quite tight for this game to get every map right 2010-11-25T09:59:05 hmhm.. if you really want to calculate "so what happens in 30 turns when I do this and then this and he does this and..." 2010-11-25T09:59:16 1 turn is not going to be enough 2010-11-25T09:59:27 eh 1 second 2010-11-25T09:59:34 *** Mathnerd314 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T10:00:05 yea 2010-11-25T10:00:28 the thing i have realized is that a lot of bots have a problem with large incoming fleets 2010-11-25T10:00:48 removing restraints on how many i can launch from a planet when attack/defend makes for quite some interesting games 2010-11-25T10:03:23 *** pihtashilo has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T10:15:20 *** fgump has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T10:16:05 *** brx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-11-25T10:19:22 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3550), davidjliu(3385), Raschi(3334), thedreamer(3327), Fill_the_Missing(3288), bix0r4ever(3275), dmj111(3257), _Astek_(3249), Manwe56(3157), medrimonia(3156) 2010-11-25T10:21:23 *** mceier has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2010-11-25T10:21:35 *** Mistmanov has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T10:21:43 *** davidjliu has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T10:25:38 *** smellyhippy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2010-11-25T10:26:37 http://ai-contest.com/visualizer.php?game_id=8603875 2010-11-25T10:26:42 see move 35. I have know idea how my bot anticipates like that... 2010-11-25T10:29:58 *** aerique has quit IRC (Quit: ...) 2010-11-25T10:31:42 *** smellyhippy has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T10:33:26 davidjliu: is your game tree responding to "their moves"? 2010-11-25T10:34:10 heh, I don't actually have a game tree, but my bot hypothetically considers enemy moves 2010-11-25T10:34:57 but it should've considered BaronTrozo reserving some of his fleets 2010-11-25T10:34:59 or something 2010-11-25T10:35:03 I dunno 2010-11-25T10:36:25 *** pluuto has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T10:38:15 *** pluuto has left #aichallenge 2010-11-25T10:47:49 *** yasith has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2010-11-25T10:53:36 *** yasith has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T11:11:32 *** zeratul has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T11:17:47 *** amriedle has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T11:19:22 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3395), davidjliu(3369), Raschi(3352), Fill_the_Missing(3312), thedreamer(3284), bix0r4ever(3263), _Astek_(3260), dmj111(3251), medrimonia(3159), Manwe56(3141) 2010-11-25T11:25:10 *** pihtashilo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-11-25T11:27:26 *** winexception has quit IRC (Quit: Bye) 2010-11-25T11:27:44 *** winexception has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T11:30:15 *** Mathnerd314 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2010-11-25T11:35:45 http://72.44.46.68/canvas?game_id=1207276 2010-11-25T11:35:55 *** winexception has quit IRC (Quit: Bye) 2010-11-25T11:36:15 *** winexception has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T11:39:48 uploaded my max version to official lets see where it settles 2010-11-25T11:41:15 *** KP13 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T11:41:38 *** Kingpin13 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-11-25T11:47:43 *** rebelxt_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T11:49:24 bhasker: looking at overnight stats - malazan-max got stronger 2010-11-25T11:55:54 *** rebelxt_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T11:56:41 *** narnach_mb has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2010-11-25T12:01:12 *** vpetro has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T12:08:08 *** Mistmanov has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T12:12:08 *** amriedle has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) 2010-11-25T12:14:23 1-2 mouth and im my be can beet bocsimacko 2010-11-25T12:14:52 or someone ozer 2010-11-25T12:15:34 many ideas no any power to code 2010-11-25T12:18:14 *** winexception has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-11-25T12:19:23 Top 10 players: bix0r4ever(3376), _Astek_(3331), bocsimacko(3325), davidjliu(3254), dmj111(3242), thedreamer(3211), medrimonia(3167), felixcoto(3145), asavis(3134), Manwe56(3129) 2010-11-25T12:22:13 Accoun: come to tcp and beat up my bot 2010-11-25T12:26:51 *** _W_ <_W_!~w@irc.w-wins.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-11-25T12:27:31 *** bnjmn has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-11-25T12:28:11 *** _W_ <_W_!~w@irc.w-wins.com> has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T12:28:25 *** rebelxt_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T12:30:16 *** medrimonia2 is now known as medrimonia 2010-11-25T12:39:39 *** rebelxt_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T12:40:42 *** winexception has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T12:41:09 mega1> not now 2010-11-25T12:41:15 ok 2010-11-25T12:42:03 mega1> for win u need 1 more mouth 2010-11-25T12:42:39 for you to win? I dunno 2010-11-25T12:42:43 mega1> rewrite all, kiling bags, reliase ideas 2010-11-25T12:43:44 the last days are pretty hectic 2010-11-25T12:43:49 for being in the top 10, I need the contest to start now =P 2010-11-25T12:43:51 mega1> last year im be beter than u 2010-11-25T12:44:42 Accoun: I was 11th :-) 2010-11-25T12:45:04 mega1> i was 1st 2010-11-25T12:45:16 until the map change? 2010-11-25T12:45:20 mega1> if not this stuped canadian 2010-11-25T12:45:43 u dont play on TCP after 2010-11-25T12:46:07 in TCP on beeg random maps im be 6 2010-11-25T12:46:08 *** McLeopold has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T12:46:34 *** Mathnerd314 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T12:46:46 if in TCP be small random maps like on conteat i will be 1st 2010-11-25T12:47:15 in TCP on big random maps im be 6 2010-11-25T12:47:17 how come you were 23rd in the official ranking? 2010-11-25T12:47:43 mega1> chiting 2010-11-25T12:48:00 Accoun: it's spelled "cheating" 2010-11-25T12:48:25 lern russian comrades 2010-11-25T12:48:28 Accoun: have you tried the crazy maps on tcp2.zeroviz.us? 2010-11-25T12:48:39 Accoun: way to hard. :) 2010-11-25T12:48:50 russian that is 2010-11-25T12:49:02 I wish I could learn a second language. :( 2010-11-25T12:49:11 *** ebel has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-11-25T12:49:21 Python is a language! :) 2010-11-25T12:49:38 Accoun: so, on tcp2 there is a set of fast maps with 41 planets and number of ships limited to 30 2010-11-25T12:49:51 I'm wondering how your bot would do on those maps 2010-11-25T12:49:58 not 2010-11-25T12:50:01 McLeopold: does tcp.zeroviz.us use the same map generator as official? 2010-11-25T12:50:06 Yes 2010-11-25T12:50:12 And the same exact maps 2010-11-25T12:50:12 im no any power after 2.5 mouth 2010-11-25T12:50:15 ok, thanks 2010-11-25T12:50:50 davidjliu: is your current bot much better than before? 2010-11-25T12:51:11 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2010-11-25T12:51:15 davidjliu: are you running zeroviz? what bot name? 2010-11-25T12:51:18 I'm really not sure... on McLeopold's tcp, it usually sucks 2010-11-25T12:51:59 I think Krolm is a slightly older version that's pretty much the same as official 2010-11-25T12:52:19 I don't know about you guys, but I'm *so* glad C++ isn't winning. :) 2010-11-25T12:52:41 *** yasith has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-11-25T12:52:41 haha 2010-11-25T12:52:49 davidjliu: that's very strange 2010-11-25T12:52:50 i'ma start up crazy maps mcleopold 2010-11-25T12:53:05 mega1: yeah, I'm quite confused too 2010-11-25T12:53:09 antimatroid1: let me limit it to the fast maps 2010-11-25T12:53:19 ooh, I'll join tcp2 2010-11-25T12:53:50 port 996 2010-11-25T12:54:12 i'm so undecided about my game tree it's terrible 2010-11-25T12:54:24 i have a few different ones, each with their own benefits 2010-11-25T12:54:51 The rankings are such a mess in the top 10... 2010-11-25T12:55:11 It's anything but stable 2010-11-25T12:55:17 apparently i should expand more 2010-11-25T12:55:25 medrimonia: if only Raschi would stop resubmitting every 10 minutes... 2010-11-25T12:55:32 I'm running a broken AntBot 2010-11-25T12:55:38 Yes there's that too 2010-11-25T12:56:04 *** r0sk has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T12:56:08 Hi! 2010-11-25T12:56:32 r0sk: helloes 2010-11-25T12:57:10 yeah, my bot sucks with heaps of planets 2010-11-25T12:57:23 davidjliu: the slowness is my bot 2010-11-25T12:57:48 looks like my counter launch was better. :) 2010-11-25T12:59:10 ohnoes, I losted 2010-11-25T13:00:17 doesn't work well with 3 people :P 2010-11-25T13:00:24 :( 2010-11-25T13:00:30 that means your next in line 2010-11-25T13:00:47 *** r0sk has left #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:00:57 davidjliu: I just lost the center... 2010-11-25T13:01:15 heh, am I the only one who doesn't use JBotManager? 2010-11-25T13:01:28 why don't you? 2010-11-25T13:01:28 Nop davidjliu 2010-11-25T13:01:30 it's wonderful 2010-11-25T13:01:43 I'll take a look 2010-11-25T13:01:44 heh 2010-11-25T13:01:45 just got it back, giantcounter launch 2010-11-25T13:01:46 I'm not using it too 2010-11-25T13:01:53 i couldn't bear to go without live tcp games now that i've had them 2010-11-25T13:02:09 and human mode has been rather useful at times 2010-11-25T13:02:11 okay, your getting pwned now... 2010-11-25T13:02:21 me? 2010-11-25T13:02:26 i don't see a game damnit 2010-11-25T13:02:28 no, krolm 2010-11-25T13:02:41 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:02:49 my bot is very bad at doing stuff with a lot of stuff. That didn't make any sense at all 2010-11-25T13:02:52 Accoun: start your bot on tcp2 2010-11-25T13:03:01 my bot is worse :P 2010-11-25T13:03:14 did you see it trying to make like 3 expansionary moves max at a time 2010-11-25T13:03:19 that's the down side to my game tree 2010-11-25T13:03:19 okay, I've got to try and get this bot submitted to official 2010-11-25T13:03:28 *** pccc has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:03:33 antimatroid1> to many planets 2010-11-25T13:03:46 Accoun: what is your limit? 2010-11-25T13:03:49 30? 2010-11-25T13:04:46 *** yasith has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:05:46 @rankings 2010-11-25T13:05:47 McLeopold: Top 10 players: bix0r4ever(3416), Raschi(3356), bocsimacko(3350), davidjliu(3299), _Astek_(3285), dmj111(3244), thedreamer(3236), medrimonia(3176), felixcoto(3161), asavis(3139) 2010-11-25T13:06:04 *** McLeopold has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2010-11-25T13:06:17 bhasker up to 11th 2010-11-25T13:06:33 *** winexception has quit IRC (Quit: Bye) 2010-11-25T13:07:01 *** winexception has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:07:31 mega1 i think have perfect stistic based algoritm 2010-11-25T13:07:48 neuro net or somethink like 2010-11-25T13:08:04 it's not anything special 2010-11-25T13:08:35 *** smloh1 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:09:20 81 versinos per 2.5 mouth 2010-11-25T13:09:42 81 versions per 2.5 mouth 2010-11-25T13:10:12 Accoun: I've more than 100 versions but I'm really far from perfect statistics^^ 2010-11-25T13:10:42 You can't judge a bot by the number of versions 2010-11-25T13:10:52 oh, im write over 99 versions! 2010-11-25T13:12:18 Accoun what's your username for the challenge? 2010-11-25T13:15:40 anywey a cant make beter version in 1 day 2010-11-25T13:15:55 need 1 week 2010-11-25T13:17:56 sigh more time would be nice 2010-11-25T13:18:07 but i'm glad it'll be over soon 2010-11-25T13:18:14 would be nice to have my life back 2010-11-25T13:19:22 Top 10 players: bix0r4ever(3494), Raschi(3372), bocsimacko(3332), davidjliu(3292), dmj111(3249), _Astek_(3240), thedreamer(3186), medrimonia(3176), felixcoto(3170), asavis(3135) 2010-11-25T13:20:41 *** drodil has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-11-25T13:20:56 *** drodil has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:23:39 *** Naktibalda has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100722155716]) 2010-11-25T13:24:12 *** wvdschel has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:24:12 *** wvdschel has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:30:43 *** mceier has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:35:58 *** delt0r___ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2010-11-25T13:38:32 *** fawek has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:42:10 *** fawek has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2010-11-25T13:44:12 *** narnach has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:45:57 *** rebelxt_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:50:44 *** rebelxt_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2010-11-25T13:54:26 *** fawek has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:55:31 *** drodil has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2010-11-25T13:57:34 *** drodil has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T13:58:45 *** fawek has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2010-11-25T14:01:10 *** smloh1 has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T14:19:23 Top 10 players: bix0r4ever(3516), Raschi(3411), bocsimacko(3398), davidjliu(3319), dmj111(3244), RebelXT(3243), _Astek_(3224), thedreamer(3189), medrimonia(3188), felixcoto(3162) 2010-11-25T14:26:07 *** delt0r___ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T14:28:34 *** perror has quit IRC (Quit: Bye all !) 2010-11-25T14:29:00 that rank 11 was an aberration 2010-11-25T14:29:58 i don't this one will do much better than 0.23 2010-11-25T14:30:15 already down to #74 2010-11-25T14:30:33 *** Kingpin13 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T14:32:32 *** KP13 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2010-11-25T14:37:11 *** rebelxt_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T14:40:45 *** Azrathud has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T14:44:45 *** smellyhippy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-11-25T14:51:55 *** smellyhippy has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T14:51:55 *** smellyhippy has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T15:03:15 *** p4p4 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T15:12:59 how do the rankings work? 2010-11-25T15:14:22 Kingpin13: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system 2010-11-25T15:15:18 ah, thanks :), I'll read up on that :D 2010-11-25T15:19:24 Top 10 players: bix0r4ever(3402), bocsimacko(3395), Raschi(3341), RebelXT(3320), davidjliu(3271), dmj111(3236), _Astek_(3208), bayazit(3201), medrimonia(3185), felixcoto(3158) 2010-11-25T15:21:52 *** Sylph has quit IRC () 2010-11-25T15:29:55 *** smellyhippy has quit IRC (Quit: BUT WAIT! What are those penguins up to?!) 2010-11-25T15:30:52 *** Sylph has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T15:42:37 *** boegel has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T15:43:17 tuning my bot isn't working out as good as I had hoped 2010-11-25T15:43:26 seems like I'm at a dead end :( 2010-11-25T15:45:41 boegel, probably a local optimum. welcome to the club 2010-11-25T15:47:00 rebelxt_: :) 2010-11-25T15:47:11 rebelxt_: well, maybe my bot just doesn't have enough potential 2010-11-25T15:47:27 rebelxt_: seems like I pushed it to its limits by setting the various parameters intuittively 2010-11-25T15:47:43 rebelxt_: which means my current version is seriously lacking intelligence 2010-11-25T15:47:51 it was a fun ride thoguh :) 2010-11-25T15:50:31 *** rebelxt_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-11-25T15:58:20 rebelxt sent new max version 2010-11-25T16:18:13 *** foucist has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T16:19:26 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3447), bix0r4ever(3365), Raschi(3306), davidjliu(3281), dmj111(3235), _Astek_(3233), Accoun(3196), bayazit(3169), felixcoto(3158), medrimonia(3144) 2010-11-25T16:24:51 anybody here using Cilk in their C code 2010-11-25T16:25:29 *** delt0r has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T16:26:10 *** delt0r___ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2010-11-25T16:26:19 *** choas has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T16:26:19 *** narnach has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2010-11-25T16:41:19 *** Naktibalda has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T16:43:44 *** Palmik has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-11-25T16:46:17 *** yasith has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2010-11-25T16:49:46 *** rebelxt_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T16:50:57 bhasker: running a test on newly generated set of maps 2010-11-25T16:51:19 *** Appleman1234 has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T16:55:20 @ratings 2010-11-25T16:55:21 rebelxt_: I have no idea what you mean. 2010-11-25T16:55:43 @rankings 2010-11-25T16:55:50 rebelxt_: Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3441), bix0r4ever(3309), Raschi(3296), davidjliu(3276), RebelXT(3252), _Astek_(3247), GreenTea(3241), dmj111(3233), Accoun(3223), felixcoto(3153) 2010-11-25T16:56:19 imho, ratings on official server can be ignored for now.. messed up by frequent re-submissions 2010-11-25T16:58:29 *** yasith has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T16:58:37 *** boegel has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2010-11-25T17:03:34 hey, just when I finallly got back on top :-) 2010-11-25T17:03:54 it's settling down a bit 2010-11-25T17:04:36 beating bix0r was nice of you 2010-11-25T17:06:39 *** mceier has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2010-11-25T17:08:23 can't believe that lucky streak... i really hope we all get hundreds of games during the tourney to get ratings to stabilize 2010-11-25T17:09:04 *** Mistmanov has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T17:10:12 I'd love to see the "likelihood of superiority" stats 2010-11-25T17:10:55 mega1: have you tested your bot on 32 and 64 bit platforms by any chance? when i started testing on amazon EC2 using "official" 32 bit ubuntu VM, started getting different results but this might have to do with some weird python platform specific issue 2010-11-25T17:11:34 rebelxt_: I'm testing on a 64 bit box too 2010-11-25T17:11:54 not because I think it's different, but because it's what I have available 2010-11-25T17:12:19 you are using LISP so likely not an issue. but i'm paranoid now 2010-11-25T17:12:20 The considerable differences I attributed to the difference in cpu speed. 2010-11-25T17:12:44 I should test with timeouts disabled. 2010-11-25T17:14:20 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T17:15:47 rebelxt_: is that a new bot? 2010-11-25T17:16:18 *** rebelxt_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T17:16:29 *** rebelxt_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T17:16:55 you are evading the question :-) 2010-11-25T17:17:17 me? i actually just disconnected again - having issues with IRC last two days 2010-11-25T17:17:55 so is it a new bot? 2010-11-25T17:18:36 ahh no, it's the one you ran tests againt last night. so just having a lucky streak today 2010-11-25T17:19:25 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3452), bix0r4ever(3294), RebelXT(3273), Raschi(3270), davidjliu(3262), GreenTea(3258), _Astek_(3239), Accoun(3237), dmj111(3226), felixcoto(3140) 2010-11-25T17:19:38 did you find the games useful? 2010-11-25T17:19:54 I guess we played enough on zeroviz too 2010-11-25T17:20:31 yeah i'm still replaying them - but only a few losses were obvious off by one errors on my part. 2010-11-25T17:22:05 yeah we got 400+ games on zeroviz! info overload 2010-11-25T17:27:28 *** rebelxt_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T17:27:42 *** rebelxt_ has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T17:28:30 mega1: haha just played you on official. was a gg but too short ;) 2010-11-25T17:29:25 that was a careless start 2010-11-25T17:30:42 exactly 20+1 was a bad start for that map 2010-11-25T17:40:15 *** rebelxt_ has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T17:45:49 *** smellyhippy has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T17:52:17 YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAH #12 2010-11-25T17:52:20 :P 2010-11-25T17:58:18 *** amriedle has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T17:58:47 *** p4p4 has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [SeaMonkey 2.0a3/20090223135443]) 2010-11-25T18:04:05 *** Azrathud has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-11-25T18:06:44 *** rr has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T18:07:12 *** rr is now known as Guest29142 2010-11-25T18:07:14 *** Azrathud has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T18:10:26 Are the top players using external libraries? 2010-11-25T18:12:33 *** vpetro has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) 2010-11-25T18:14:43 define top 2010-11-25T18:15:31 Say, anyone in top 20 2010-11-25T18:16:04 well i expect to be in top 40 somewhere 2010-11-25T18:16:11 and i'm not 2010-11-25T18:16:29 ic 2010-11-25T18:19:26 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3422), davidjliu(3238), dmj111(3213), RebelXT(3211), bix0r4ever(3205), GreenTea(3179), Accoun(3174), Raschi(3170), _Astek_(3168), bayazit(3133) 2010-11-25T18:20:08 *** Kingpin13 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2010-11-25T18:23:18 *** phreeza has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T18:24:18 how easy easy it to exceed the 1secondtime, in c++? 2010-11-25T18:25:03 depends on your definition of "easy" and what you want to do to exceed it 2010-11-25T18:25:07 here's an easy way: while (true); 2010-11-25T18:25:07 burny: while(1); 2010-11-25T18:25:10 * pgpaskar slaps amstan 2010-11-25T18:25:12 :P 2010-11-25T18:25:26 pgpaskar: will true be defined? 2010-11-25T18:25:36 na, I mean.. are top bots having to do anythign remotely clever to avoid it? 2010-11-25T18:25:37 #DEFINE true !!!0 2010-11-25T18:25:46 or are most able to completely ignore it? 2010-11-25T18:25:56 burny: i think they are 2010-11-25T18:26:10 burny: last contest it was a requirement to have them 2010-11-25T18:26:18 my avg turntime is 0.0003s 2010-11-25T18:26:36 that's because everyone last time in the top100 was basically minmaxing and were writing clever eval functions 2010-11-25T18:26:42 this time... such is not the case i think 2010-11-25T18:26:56 so, should be able to easily remain under, unless you screw up, or are doing something especially intensive? 2010-11-25T18:26:56 the #1 is applying minimax with one ply 2010-11-25T18:27:08 or basically generating actions and evaluating them 2010-11-25T18:27:13 _effectively_ 2010-11-25T18:27:16 =] 2010-11-25T18:28:12 my bot is losing like 70% of games, from some sort of crash/timeout 2010-11-25T18:28:29 and no clue how I can find it, other then painfuly reading it all 2010-11-25T18:28:50 printf =) 2010-11-25T18:29:03 isn't printf thrown away? 2010-11-25T18:29:05 or wel logf 2010-11-25T18:29:18 just log to file 2010-11-25T18:29:24 or printf to error 2010-11-25T18:29:26 and capture 2010-11-25T18:29:58 *** Guest29142 has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2010-11-25T18:30:14 I thought you can't write to files? 2010-11-25T18:30:33 you can if you test on the tcp servers 2010-11-25T18:30:34 @tcp 2010-11-25T18:30:35 zeratul: tcp = (#1) http://www.benzedrine.cx/planetwars/, or (#2) http://72.44.46.68/, or (#3) 98.247.248.39:995 (zeroviz.us), or (#4) http://tcp.zeroviz.us/, or (#5) http://tcp2.zeroviz.us/ (crazy!) 2010-11-25T18:31:06 ye, I presume you'll fix the bug locally :) 2010-11-25T18:32:06 love games like this.. 2010-11-25T18:32:07 http://ai-contest.com/visualizer.php?game_id=8639355 2010-11-25T18:34:45 *** choas has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2010-11-25T18:36:25 would if I could, without doing hella work 2010-11-25T18:38:58 *** zeratul has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2010-11-25T18:41:02 *** Rubicon-|-Cross has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2010-11-25T18:48:53 amstan: @ 27th scores will be resetted and new maps generated right? do you know wether maps will be generated at playtime aswell? 2010-11-25T18:49:50 and how many maps? 2010-11-25T18:50:17 oh.. I have a question... how does the scoring for final work? 2010-11-25T18:51:11 like, is it based on elo, and we need to mostly beat bots on the same level.. or does how often we win/lose to weaker bots play a significant factor? etc. 2010-11-25T18:51:41 burny: its based on elo 2010-11-25T18:51:56 so losing to weaker bots will have a massive impat 2010-11-25T18:51:58 impact* 2010-11-25T18:52:06 not if you don't play against weaker bots 2010-11-25T18:52:19 opponents are chosen through a pareto distribution 2010-11-25T18:52:38 which seems good to me 2010-11-25T18:53:32 if I have teh choice of losing to 5% of weak bots, 100% of the time, on 20% of maps.. or losing to 10% of good bots, 10% of the time, on 20% of maps.. 2010-11-25T18:53:36 which should I choose? 2010-11-25T18:54:20 both result in 0.2% more losses.. but if I'm not likely to play against a weak bot(assuming my bot is good).. then who cares? 2010-11-25T18:55:28 optimize for opponent near your current strength 2010-11-25T18:55:35 indeed 2010-11-25T18:55:58 such that you don't regres for opponents < then current strenght +) 2010-11-25T18:56:02 that means stuff like.. 2010-11-25T18:56:14 assume my opponent doesn't send 100ships at my base, on the first frame 2010-11-25T18:57:28 *** Appleman1234 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-11-25T18:59:57 *** Rubicon-|-Cross has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T19:00:49 Error323: so.. like.. 2010-11-25T19:00:57 why do you have these questions? 2010-11-25T19:01:04 what purpose will they serve? 2010-11-25T19:01:25 if it's just out of curiosity can i ask you to wait and see, too many ppl are asking these 2010-11-25T19:02:09 yes just curious 2010-11-25T19:02:10 srry 2010-11-25T19:11:09 *** Mathnerd314 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2010-11-25T19:13:30 @rankings 2010-11-25T19:13:31 Error323: Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3437), davidjliu(3235), Accoun(3226), bix0r4ever(3226), dmj111(3213), RebelXT(3210), _Astek_(3184), krokkrok(3161), bayazit(3145), Error323(3136) 2010-11-25T19:13:36 \o/ :D 2010-11-25T19:19:28 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3437), davidjliu(3235), Accoun(3226), bix0r4ever(3226), dmj111(3213), RebelXT(3210), _Astek_(3184), krokkrok(3161), bayazit(3145), Error323(3136) 2010-11-25T19:20:02 *** phreeza has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2010-11-25T19:22:30 rebel how did the tests go 2010-11-25T19:26:11 *** winexception has quit IRC (Quit: Bye) 2010-11-25T19:26:38 *** winexception has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T19:32:46 *** phreeza has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T19:34:48 atleast this time, it wasn't crashing ALL the time.. so I'm only half way in the fireswamp 2010-11-25T19:41:04 *** pccc has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-11-25T19:45:15 *** winexception has quit IRC (Quit: Bye) 2010-11-25T19:47:03 *** Azrathud has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2010-11-25T19:47:26 *** Azrathud has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T19:52:31 *** Error323 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-11-25T20:02:22 *** phreeza has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2010-11-25T20:05:47 *** zeratul has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T20:05:51 *** iFire has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-11-25T20:06:15 *** iFire has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T20:07:59 *** Migi32 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-11-25T20:11:27 *** vpetro has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T20:18:02 janzert: definitely a noticable reduction in my marks from the semester :) 2010-11-25T20:18:53 despite getting my lowest mark ever for computer graphics, i'm fairly proud of my 53, i did each of the two assignments the day it was due, didn't go to class since the first week and studied for the exam on the day 2010-11-25T20:19:32 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3541), wagstaff(3292), bix0r4ever(3279), Xayide(3223), dmj111(3221), davidjliu(3219), Accoun(3200), _Astek_(3185), RebelXT(3170), bayazit(3162) 2010-11-25T20:19:47 wow, big lead 2010-11-25T20:20:12 *** davidjliu has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-11-25T20:20:13 studyng?.. pf.. slacker 2010-11-25T20:22:47 *** vpetro has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) 2010-11-25T20:34:40 *** Naktibalda has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2010-11-25T20:39:15 *** winexception has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T20:41:53 *** winexception has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2010-11-25T20:42:10 *** winexception has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T20:43:41 lame.. the count down till my game is up.. but I didn't get a game? :( 2010-11-25T20:45:56 *** napolitano has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T20:49:03 ai challenge? 2010-11-25T20:49:22 ? 2010-11-25T20:49:29 yes, ai challenge 2010-11-25T20:50:11 is this already over? the ai-contest site says we've only got till dec 1st? 2010-11-25T20:50:13 *** nullkuhl has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T20:50:27 guess i missed this by a long shot 2010-11-25T20:50:34 submission deadline is this saturday 2010-11-25T20:50:38 so you have a couple of days 2010-11-25T20:50:45 bummer 2010-11-25T20:51:08 napolitano: there'll be more 2010-11-25T20:51:09 cool.. looks like I probably fixed my crash bug.. 2010-11-25T20:51:13 this is the second one this year 2010-11-25T20:51:15 but I have no clue what I changed to fix it lol 2010-11-25T20:51:24 i learned about this contest when they posted the results to the last one 2010-11-25T20:51:28 i was so disappointed 2010-11-25T20:51:36 is it usually the same game that comes up again? 2010-11-25T20:51:39 i got diqualified from the last one for timing out on a single game 2010-11-25T20:51:43 no, they change it each time 2010-11-25T20:51:44 i expected to finish top 10 :( 2010-11-25T20:52:06 i didn't shut up until that rule was changed this time, so it's no longer an issue 2010-11-25T20:52:11 ya, total DQ for a single time out is lames 2010-11-25T20:52:26 but the new games will be posted at the same location when it starts again? 2010-11-25T20:52:42 hmm, not sure 2010-11-25T20:52:48 just keep an eye out on reddit 2010-11-25T20:52:53 it's hard to miss 2010-11-25T20:53:07 * antimatroid1 perhaps spends a little too much time on the internet 2010-11-25T20:53:08 obviously not reddit.com 2010-11-25T20:53:22 yes reddit.com/r/programming 2010-11-25T20:53:37 i came here in sept from reddit 2010-11-25T20:53:53 there was another post recently, too 2010-11-25T20:54:40 yeah, there were a few posts in september, did you come from the premature or official one? 2010-11-25T20:55:00 i managed to see the one where someone spotted the site a week or two before it was even meant to go live 2010-11-25T20:55:24 then there was a bunch of people in here when the official opening was posted on reddit 2010-11-25T20:55:37 * antimatroid1 has been enslaved right since the start 2010-11-25T20:56:15 the premature one 2010-11-25T20:56:45 i have an account from before the official start date because i volunteered to help with testing 2010-11-25T20:57:05 and then i spent all my time contributing to the backend code rather than work on my own bot.. 2010-11-25T20:58:19 yeah that's always an issue 2010-11-25T20:58:25 i sort of wish i hadn't spent time on the map generator 2010-11-25T20:58:29 but no one else was going to 2010-11-25T21:02:29 *** medrimonia3 has left #aichallenge 2010-11-25T21:03:30 lol, is that a new rufes band person up in 2nd 2010-11-25T21:03:35 who the fuck are these people 2010-11-25T21:04:25 what's bic's streak like now? 2010-11-25T21:04:48 boc rather 2010-11-25T21:12:21 *** Rubicon-|-Cross has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2010-11-25T21:16:08 if I win my next game, that'll probably bring me up to my new best rank yet :) 2010-11-25T21:17:04 *** jshriver has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2010-11-25T21:19:30 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3552), Xayide(3341), bix0r4ever(3304), wagstaff(3238), dmj111(3228), Accoun(3218), davidjliu(3199), _Astek_(3181), SUA.khb(3167), bayazit(3159) 2010-11-25T21:21:06 *** jshriver has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T21:29:03 *** fgump has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) 2010-11-25T21:36:17 cool, my bot's still playing properly up to 2250elo 2010-11-25T21:37:24 think this bot should bring me close to the top100 2010-11-25T21:37:59 :) 2010-11-25T21:38:14 we need better competitors 2010-11-25T21:38:24 no offense, but it's a bit disappointing that someone could do that in a week or two 2010-11-25T21:38:36 a day really 2010-11-25T21:38:43 aside from what I did yesterday.. 2010-11-25T21:38:49 yeah, oh well, next time 2010-11-25T21:38:52 I fixed a tiny bug this afternoon 2010-11-25T21:38:58 it's still way more competitive than the last contest 2010-11-25T21:39:01 and spent like 10minutes on the preliminary bot 2010-11-25T21:39:03 burny whats your official name? 2010-11-25T21:39:08 nikyburny 2010-11-25T21:39:13 nikiburny 2010-11-25T21:39:19 ahh crap :P 2010-11-25T21:40:11 I might have to make a couple more tweaks yet to get top 100 though 2010-11-25T21:40:15 gona wait and see 2010-11-25T21:40:32 I've already made some tweaks locally, but not gona upload it till I lose one 2010-11-25T21:42:20 *** zeratul has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-11-25T21:42:44 *** zeratul has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T21:43:38 *** Rubicon-|-Cross has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T21:56:30 this may be off topic, but is anyone familiar with this problem, i have a pdf file that when i try to copy and paste any text from it, its pasted as scrambled text or white spaces, also using any pdf to text convertor it outputs empty or scrambled files, any idea ? 2010-11-25T21:57:34 it's probably intended to be that way 2010-11-25T21:57:42 security is one of pdf's only redeeming qualitys 2010-11-25T21:59:54 http://72.44.46.68/getplayer?player=testbot 2010-11-25T21:59:57 well that's a primising start 2010-11-25T22:00:22 burny: any way to overcome that ? it seems to be more of an encoding problem 2010-11-25T22:00:29 *** nullkuhl has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-11-25T22:00:49 *** nullkuhl has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T22:01:08 null: pdf purposely does stuff, to prevent people from copying(aka, stealing) from it 2010-11-25T22:02:14 that's not neccessarily what you're running into.. but it's for sure worth considering 2010-11-25T22:03:40 burny: its not that, actually the file was extracted from some 3dparty application, and currently thats the pdf file is only the place where the data exist, and now i cant copy the text from it :S this explains my current situation accurately http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Archive/Comp/comp.lang.postscript/2010-05/msg00034.html 2010-11-25T22:04:03 lol, that bot fluked first 4 matches and is now only behind bocsi on tcp 2010-11-25T22:04:17 it would have lost the first match too if phreeza didn't fail 2010-11-25T22:04:25 *** zeratul has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2010-11-25T22:04:40 i lose this game to as-e02 from expanding badly though 2010-11-25T22:05:15 *** zeratul has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T22:05:36 null: what are you pasting it into? 2010-11-25T22:05:38 wordpad? 2010-11-25T22:06:29 word, wordpad, tried various ones 2010-11-25T22:06:42 also tried various pdf to text/doc converters 2010-11-25T22:07:18 bah timeouts are the worst 2010-11-25T22:07:31 burny: i figured out that the problem is in the encoding, its custom from the page i linked you to above, however am really not sure how to fix that now. 2010-11-25T22:07:58 anti: I think timeout is what was making mine crash last night 2010-11-25T22:08:09 nah i'm pretty sure those were my connection 2010-11-25T22:17:11 antimatroid1: is it a fluke? 2010-11-25T22:17:24 which bot 2010-11-25T22:18:28 foucist: it's still making stupid moves in places 2010-11-25T22:18:31 testbot 2010-11-25T22:18:37 it went and lost a bunch of games 2010-11-25T22:19:29 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3468), bix0r4ever(3321), Xayide(3304), 0x0badc0de(3250), dmj111(3244), wagstaff(3224), davidjliu(3198), _Astek_(3182), Accoun(3179), bayazit(3159) 2010-11-25T22:22:14 oh man, i almost threw a game against oldman 2010-11-25T22:22:19 but i think he's dead 2010-11-25T22:26:20 *** virdo has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T22:33:34 antimatroid http://72.44.46.68/getplayer?player=malazan-max 2010-11-25T22:35:20 ? 2010-11-25T22:36:39 thats my new version 2010-11-25T22:36:42 does some interesting stuff 2010-11-25T22:37:12 like no more holding back enough ships for defense 2010-11-25T22:37:46 http://72.44.46.68/canvas?game_id=1215628 2010-11-25T22:40:47 nice 2010-11-25T22:40:53 i'm looking forward to the contest 2010-11-25T22:41:02 the rankings are going to be all over the show i think 2010-11-25T22:41:08 it shall be exciting to watch 2010-11-25T22:42:58 yea i uploaded this version to official lets see where it settles 2010-11-25T22:43:17 i don't think there is any settling atm is there? 2010-11-25T22:43:27 that is true 2010-11-25T22:43:41 but my previous version was holding 40-50 for a few days straight 2010-11-25T22:43:50 so i am hoping this can settle somewhere around that regio 2010-11-25T22:44:00 seems to be doing decently on tcp 2010-11-25T22:44:06 hovering around 290 elo 2010-11-25T22:44:30 *** Azrathud has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2010-11-25T22:48:59 I just heard about this a couple days ago. The official tournament doesn't start until after the 27th, right? 2010-11-25T22:50:20 it ends on the 27th 2010-11-25T22:50:27 or rather.. 2010-11-25T22:50:32 that's the deadline for entrys 2010-11-25T22:52:53 I see. Thanks. 2010-11-25T22:53:04 is this a close game? 2010-11-25T22:53:05 http://ai-contest.com/profile.php?user_id=13271 2010-11-25T22:54:50 so burny is your bot a heuristic bot 2010-11-25T22:55:04 not really 2010-11-25T22:55:11 it's an if else bot really 2010-11-25T22:55:23 Wow. It looks like it. 2010-11-25T22:55:37 ah k 2010-11-25T22:55:45 won't an if else bot be a heuristic? 2010-11-25T22:56:10 the only huristic I have, is determining how good owning one planet is, compared to another 2010-11-25T22:56:20 the rest is like... 2010-11-25T22:56:57 if(planet[a].canCapture(planet[b]) planet[a].attack(planet[b]); 2010-11-25T22:56:58 etc. 2010-11-25T22:57:13 ah k 2010-11-25T22:57:20 rebelxt around? 2010-11-25T22:57:48 winexception: looks like what? a close game? or a huristic bot? 2010-11-25T22:58:06 I wish i ran into this website awhile ago. 2010-11-25T22:58:18 ya, same.. just started last week :( 2010-11-25T22:58:29 A close game. 2010-11-25T22:58:31 *** jshriver has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2010-11-25T22:58:46 It almost like the same bot. 2010-11-25T22:59:30 think I had better position at the start, but then I pressed the side attack too long, and let them get the second planet, when I took too long to get it 2010-11-25T23:00:12 *** jshriver has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T23:00:21 this leads to interesting battles http://zeroviz.us:8080/canvas.cgi?game_id=28224 2010-11-25T23:00:31 not locking my bot down to keep enough to hold planets 2010-11-25T23:00:36 leads to very interesting results 2010-11-25T23:03:33 *** amriedle has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-11-25T23:04:36 Are there any other ai contests? 2010-11-25T23:05:55 *** amriedle has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T23:09:25 Is malazan program to flank? 2010-11-25T23:12:03 *** amriedle_fail has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T23:12:42 winexception: there are quite a few 2010-11-25T23:12:55 mario ai contest seems to run every year, although that's a decision problem not a game 2010-11-25T23:13:05 arimaa i plan to look at following this 2010-11-25T23:13:47 winexception not sure what you mean by that 2010-11-25T23:13:53 malazan is my bot 2010-11-25T23:15:38 antimatroid you gotta watch this game http://72.44.46.68/canvas?game_id=1216297 2010-11-25T23:15:45 bhasker, the game link you provided shows how your ai took over planets by flanking. 2010-11-25T23:16:11 hmm not sure what you mean by flanking? attacking on the sides? 2010-11-25T23:17:03 Attacking while enemy fleets are leaving is what om trying to say. 2010-11-25T23:18:16 ah thats just a normal reaction of the bot 2010-11-25T23:18:27 as enemy leaves a planet it will create an attractive target 2010-11-25T23:18:35 so bot will automatically prefer to attack that 2010-11-25T23:18:49 the same as when i launch from my planets, enemy will tend to attack the planets i just launched from 2010-11-25T23:19:29 Top 10 players: bocsimacko(3484), bix0r4ever(3353), wagstaff(3294), Xayide(3275), dmj111(3253), SUA.khb(3252), 0x0badc0de(3213), _Astek_(3209), Accoun(3193), davidjliu(3187) 2010-11-25T23:23:21 *** amriedle_fail has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) 2010-11-25T23:24:29 *** amriedle has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) 2010-11-25T23:34:14 bah, waitign an hour for a game, and then it's against someone 1500ranks below, is lame 2010-11-25T23:34:58 lol same here 2010-11-25T23:35:08 i just played against a 1100 ranked bot 2010-11-25T23:35:10 :-\ 2010-11-25T23:35:37 are you not testing on TCP server? 2010-11-25T23:35:44 no 2010-11-25T23:36:29 you should be 2010-11-25T23:36:36 you can run the bot on your computer 2010-11-25T23:36:39 too much work 2010-11-25T23:36:42 and get like a game every 3 minutes 2010-11-25T23:36:45 err no 2010-11-25T23:36:49 just download the client 2010-11-25T23:37:04 and ./tcp 2010-11-25T23:37:07 thats about it 2010-11-25T23:37:12 just put that in a script 2010-11-25T23:37:14 to run in a loop 2010-11-25T23:37:25 and you can redirect your stderr to a file 2010-11-25T23:37:27 to capture the log 2010-11-25T23:37:37 and stdout to a file to capture opponent win/loss info 2010-11-25T23:37:48 and you can run multiple versions 2010-11-25T23:37:54 to get an idea of their relative strengths 2010-11-25T23:40:31 *** Rubicon-|-Cross has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2010-11-25T23:44:30 *** winexception has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2010-11-25T23:47:49 *** winexception has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T23:49:59 *** Utkarsh has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2010-11-25T23:51:41 *** winexception has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2010-11-25T23:55:21 *** Utkarsh has joined #aichallenge 2010-11-25T23:59:33 *** Utkarsh has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)