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and config files for my game 2010-12-28T16:28:07 it's not super convenient, but couldn't find a better way to inspect alpha-beta's brain 2010-12-28T16:28:57 my log files from planetwars were huge... opening them in emacs was bad enough, let alone using org. 2010-12-28T16:29:12 delt0r_: nice :) 2010-12-28T16:29:32 could help the temptation of adding a few "fetures" 2010-12-28T16:29:44 it even has lambadas 2010-12-28T16:29:52 sure, they are big. Just writing the logs takes a long time. I only enabled loggin when needed. 2010-12-28T16:30:36 yes. my failsafe was the logging had to be enabled from the command line, that way I never accidentally submitted with it turned on. 2010-12-28T16:31:19 so org-mode format? my google foo is broken 2010-12-28T16:31:29 *** Azrathud has joined #aichallenge 2010-12-28T16:32:09 not so much a format, but search for org-mode and emacs 2010-12-28T16:32:25 imagine outlining on steroids, maybe. 2010-12-28T16:32:34 *** p4p4p4 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out) 2010-12-28T16:32:35 right 2010-12-28T16:32:50 so it can hide or fold whole sections of the outline at a time. 2010-12-28T16:35:12 *** Utkarsh has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2010-12-28T16:39:00 dmj111: any preference for the type of game for next round? 2010-12-28T16:41:35 *** p4p4p4 has joined #aichallenge 2010-12-28T16:42:35 *** Utkarsh has joined #aichallenge 2010-12-28T16:43:23 ^ open question for all 2010-12-28T16:44:14 not too much on the type of game. My main interest is that it is accessible, and that there isn't an obviously best strategy. 2010-12-28T16:44:51 *** fmeyer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-12-28T16:45:34 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2010-12-28T16:45:37 so something quite dynamic like a RTS..with limited physics is not out of the question then? 2010-12-28T16:46:50 I think that sounds interesting. The biggest thing, for this contest, is that people aren't scared off because it sounds too hard. (in my opinion) 2010-12-28T16:47:16 *** Utkarsh has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2010-12-28T16:47:26 *** Azrathud has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2010-12-28T16:47:40 *** Utkarsh has joined #aichallenge 2010-12-28T16:48:19 thats what i am worried about 2010-12-28T16:48:47 if its too hard to "control" units... then you don't even get to strategy 2010-12-28T16:49:32 However choosing the right parameters can make it more of a "xtra 4 xperts" 2010-12-28T16:49:49 ie approximatily start/stop/turn 2010-12-28T16:50:07 When say too hard, I mean like getting a program to play a valid chess game is pretty hard. But for planetwars, the starter pack was a 40-50 line program that played a "Valid" game. 2010-12-28T16:51:02 *** Migi32 has joined #aichallenge 2010-12-28T16:51:04 it is a tricky thing though. Make it easy to get started, but hard to get good at it. 2010-12-28T16:51:54 Oh well 2010-12-28T16:52:16 then i may have nailed it... The basic rage bot is about 50 lines of code 2010-12-28T16:52:36 but it will lose to even slightly smart tactics 2010-12-28T16:53:17 do you have a link handy? 2010-12-28T16:53:23 I have to go soon, but will check it out. 2010-12-28T16:54:36 I havn't put it out yet 2010-12-28T16:54:41 I am tring to polish it... 2010-12-28T16:54:50 full human mode+tcp etc 2010-12-28T16:55:05 online play against others... 2010-12-28T16:55:29 Work has interfeared again... but hopefully before the end of the week 2010-12-28T16:58:27 cool. 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