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now known as janzert 2010-12-29T23:54:23 yes, combined with that.. 2010-12-29T23:54:40 it's just that i got some critiques that we're not exactly doing AI here 2010-12-29T23:54:56 since there's no learning involved in some cases 2010-12-29T23:55:35 and permanent storage raises synchronization issues between workers 2010-12-29T23:56:10 AI is not necessarily a self learning algorithm 2010-12-29T23:57:16 and self learning algorithms usually take much more and work in much narrower situations than hand tuned algorithms so will be unlikely to dominate a short contest in any situation 2010-12-29T23:59:15 actually in general I rather think the most accurate definition of AI for most people is something along the lines of "any algorithm that they don't understand how it can come up with the results it does" :P 2010-12-29T23:59:38 and once they understand it they no longer consider it AI, it just becomes a "cheap trick" :/