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2011-01-17T05:12:35  <delt0r_> the forum just got some spam
2011-01-17T05:28:04  <antimatroid1> interesting spam
2011-01-17T05:41:50  <rabidus> i have an idea for AI game ;)
2011-01-17T05:42:55  <antimatroid1> ..
2011-01-17T05:42:56  <rabidus> a bot who buys USD from EURs and vice versa. Bot who has gained the most cash wins.
2011-01-17T05:42:59  <rabidus> :)
2011-01-17T05:43:09  <antimatroid1> it's not really a game though
2011-01-17T05:43:20  <rabidus> yeah, well.. at least there is huge motivator :)
2011-01-17T05:43:26  <antimatroid1> jeff was quite interested in some kind of prediction game
2011-01-17T05:43:37  <rabidus> jeff ?
2011-01-17T05:43:38  <antimatroid1> but imo it'd be better if people's predictions affected the result they are predicting
2011-01-17T05:43:42  <antimatroid1> j3camero
2011-01-17T05:43:45  <rabidus> ok
2011-01-17T05:45:11  <sigh> predicting what?
2011-01-17T05:45:27  <antimatroid1> j3camero was weather i think, this would certainly be better
2011-01-17T05:45:34  <antimatroid1> this is predicting exchange rates
2011-01-17T05:46:02  <sigh> then it becomes more a data mining comp
2011-01-17T05:46:19  <antimatroid1> for this yeah, and kaggle seems to do those already
2011-01-17T05:46:30  <antimatroid1> i quite like the simultaneous GAMES, but that is just one opinion
2011-01-17T05:46:41  <sigh> was just going to mention kaggle :P
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2011-01-17T05:47:07  <antimatroid1> i would be down for some kind of economics game, but no idea how to make it
2011-01-17T05:47:15  <antimatroid1> i should really put some thought into that some time
2011-01-17T05:48:21  <antimatroid1> actually, an emulated stock market could work well
2011-01-17T05:48:34  <antimatroid1> you could do it for currency exchange, it's all the same thing essentially
2011-01-17T05:51:03  <sigh> mega1 has enough of an advantage as it is
2011-01-17T05:51:25  <sigh> without you making stock exchange games
2011-01-17T05:51:52  <mega1> I'm pretty much bored to death by the financial domain.
2011-01-17T05:52:11  <sigh> oh hey :P
2011-01-17T05:52:17  <mega1> but if the mechanics are simple enough ...
2011-01-17T05:53:11  <antimatroid1> i want a game where there is more than a couple of components to it
2011-01-17T05:53:18  <antimatroid1> but it seems most people don't want that at all
2011-01-17T05:53:30  <antimatroid1> that's also why i liked my ants and the snowballs game
2011-01-17T05:53:36  <sigh> the problem with having a lot of components is that it is hard to balance
2011-01-17T05:53:53  <mega1> yup
2011-01-17T05:57:06  <antimatroid1> bah, it's too hot again
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2011-01-17T06:21:23  <antimatroid1> i think i found accoun on reddit
2011-01-17T06:21:31  <antimatroid1> http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/f3ghi/are_guys_only_nice_to_girls_to_get_into_their/c1d06nd
2011-01-17T06:23:35  <delt0r_> well
2011-01-17T06:23:36  <delt0r_> da
2011-01-17T06:23:37  <delt0r_> yes
2011-01-17T06:25:32  <delt0r_> god reddit is boring...
2011-01-17T06:27:42  <antimatroid1> it is getting worse lately
2011-01-17T06:27:50  <antimatroid1> but i have nothing better on the internet
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2011-01-17T06:42:48  <sigh> oh no! the internets is running out
2011-01-17T06:44:03  <antimatroid1> the internet is fairly boring these days
2011-01-17T06:44:20  <sigh> water water everywhere but not a drop to drink
2011-01-17T06:44:26  <antimatroid1> pretty much
2011-01-17T06:50:29  <antimatroid1> my only problem with that analogy is i love water
2011-01-17T06:50:35  <antimatroid1> that will never get old
2011-01-17T06:50:50  <sigh> eh?
2011-01-17T06:50:56  <delt0r_> its a quote from Rime of the ancient mariner
2011-01-17T06:51:01  <antimatroid1> we have awesome tap water here, that helps
2011-01-17T06:51:01  <sigh> yes
2011-01-17T06:51:02  <delt0r_> he is at sea
2011-01-17T06:51:22  <antimatroid1> i can't buy nicer water than water from my tap, particularly when cooled inside glass
2011-01-17T06:51:40  <sigh> it's even harder to buy nice water in the middle of the ocean :P
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2011-01-17T07:59:49  <Error323> Damn you aichallenge people
2011-01-17T08:00:00  <Error323> I have fallen for the trap that is called reddit...
2011-01-17T08:09:52  <antimatroid1> Error323: it gets repeatitive after a while :P
2011-01-17T08:10:06  <antimatroid1> Error323: http://queue.acm.org/icpc/
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2011-01-17T09:03:19  <delt0r___> any word when/how the next game will be chosen?
2011-01-17T09:05:37  <antimatroid1> i think ultimately it's up to j3camero
2011-01-17T09:25:28  <amstan_irssi> we have a problem.. with the spammers
2011-01-17T09:25:42  <amstan_irssi> i think we need a new captcha
2011-01-17T09:28:26  <antimatroid1> amstan_irssi: can you guys consider stratego for the next game
2011-01-17T09:29:44  <amstan_irssi> seems complicated.. someone go make a visualizer
2011-01-17T09:40:51  <antimatroid1> making a visualiser is too much effort for all the game ideas being thrown out
2011-01-17T09:41:38  <antimatroid1> i could be a minority, but i'm in favour of a much harder game
2011-01-17T09:41:53  <antimatroid1> anyway, it's bedtime
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2011-01-17T11:24:45  <delt0r___> shesh.. our cluster has 256G ram for 24 cores... but my quota is only 20G for HDD
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2011-01-17T11:27:07  <delt0r___> amstan_irssi: one site got a lot of success off a custom captcha
2011-01-17T11:27:39  <delt0r___> the idea is that there is no point breaking a different captcha for every small blog/forum
2011-01-17T11:28:03  <delt0r___> but if you use one of the standard ones... well then its a bigger target
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2011-01-17T11:39:14  <delt0r___> antimatroid1: stratego is a much harder game
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2011-01-17T16:54:30  <amstan_irssi> what did i have to remind jeff of?
2011-01-17T16:54:31  <amstan_irssi> darn
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2011-01-17T17:07:56  <amstan_irssi> right..
2011-01-17T17:08:02  <amstan_irssi> including the json libraries in the starter packages
2011-01-17T17:08:04  <amstan_irssi> without linking
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2011-01-17T17:39:18  <jmcarthur> amstan_irssi: i don't really care as much about the json stuff as i did before. we can do a simpler custom format ourselves without too much effort, so...
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2011-01-17T18:25:29  <amstan> jeff__: http://bbspam.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/phcaptcha1.jpg
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2011-01-17T18:26:01  <amstan> j3camero: http://bbspam.com/2007/07/16/the-best-captcha-ever/index.html
2011-01-17T18:29:02  <amstan> j3camero: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/projects/asirra/
2011-01-17T18:34:46  <j3camero> Awesome.
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2011-01-17T19:25:05  <amstan> pgpaskar_: did you do any funny business with the forums? i get a ton of merge failures on the updates
2011-01-17T19:28:02  <amstan> freaking 2 way merge... people should be banned from merging if they don't know what a 3 way merge is
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2011-01-17T19:55:00  <amstan> yay
2011-01-17T19:55:08  <amstan> i finally pruned the forums of spammers
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2011-01-17T21:31:33  <pgpaskar_> amstan_irssi: ? no
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2011-01-17T22:57:38  <amstan> we have another idea for the contest
2011-01-17T22:57:50  <amstan> we have good marketing for it
2011-01-17T22:57:54  <amstan> super easy to implement
2011-01-17T22:58:00  <amstan> but.. we're not sure strategy wise again
2011-01-17T22:58:18  <amstan> problems with existing games: stratego too complicated
2011-01-17T22:58:25  <amstan> ants too awesome for the next one, will do later
2011-01-17T22:58:37  <amstan> tron is difficult and we're affraid of getting sued
2011-01-17T22:58:52  <amstan> also.. ants need a good multi player rankings algo
2011-01-17T23:17:45  <jmcarthur> so... what's the idea?
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