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2011-05-18T00:01:36  <McLeopold> Frontier: you around?
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2011-05-18T00:19:10  <CIA-48> aichallenge: Scott Hamilton epsilon * r1edebf6 / INSTALL.md : Edited INSTALL.md via GitHub - http://bit.ly/k7lKCD
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2011-05-18T00:32:02  <McLeopold> @later tell janzert: unionfs-fuse causes quite a cpu hit when running bots, plus, it seems to cause my vm to be unstable when running updatedb
2011-05-18T00:32:02  <contestbot> McLeopold: Aye, aye, sir
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2011-05-18T01:12:45  <McLeopold> @later tell janzert: why do we download .deb packages instead of using apt-get for languages, like scala?
2011-05-18T01:12:45  <contestbot> McLeopold: Job's done.
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2011-05-18T02:56:49  <antimatroid> bhasker: happy birthday! :P
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2011-05-18T03:27:56  <Frontier> McLeopold: I'm around, yes
2011-05-18T03:39:25  <McLeopold> Frontier: I figured out my front page issue.  It was a combination of an old minified script and some other new stuff
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2011-05-18T03:44:08  <antimatroid> edinburgh looks pretty cool
2011-05-18T03:44:16  * antimatroid is looking at places to do a phd :P
2011-05-18T03:48:02  <McLeopold> mit?
2011-05-18T03:52:09  <Frontier> Don't you need to be agressive like Gordon Freeman to get a place there?
2011-05-18T03:52:38  <aerique> McLeopold: why will Makefiles not be used for official compilation?
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2011-05-18T03:53:02  <McLeopold> because it's too much to implement for this upcoming contest
2011-05-18T03:53:04  <Frontier> McLeopold: How is the web site built right now? I have this "ant deploy" thingy in the visualizer source, but I don't know if any script is using it.
2011-05-18T03:53:24  <McLeopold> Frontier: it's run by hand right now, I think
2011-05-18T03:53:59  <McLeopold> Frontier: it needs root for downloading rhino, but then you have to chown stuff later.  It needs work
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2011-05-18T03:54:43  <antimatroid> McLeopold: I'm not overly keen on moving to the US :P
2011-05-18T03:54:59  <Frontier> Well I am not a root user on my machine, do you know why cvs needs root?
2011-05-18T03:55:11  <antimatroid> i have no problem with most of the people or most of the places, but yeah, I almost want to move away from Australia based on principle, the US just isn't up there on my list :P
2011-05-18T03:55:17  <antimatroid> otherwise mit would be my number one preference
2011-05-18T03:55:55  <aerique> antimatroid: i'd chose education over politics in this case
2011-05-18T03:55:55  <antimatroid> Frontier: yeah, MIT is one of the best uni's in the world
2011-05-18T03:56:18  <antimatroid> aerique: there are many good universities outside the US, although funding isn't as available
2011-05-18T03:56:39  <antimatroid> and then i'd have to go through the ordeal of gre's :P
2011-05-18T03:57:14  <McLeopold> I'm not sure if I would move to the US, but I'm already here.
2011-05-18T03:57:25  <McLeopold> our food sucks
2011-05-18T03:57:46  <antimatroid> and some of the ridiculous laws one can't escape
2011-05-18T03:58:03  <antimatroid> so yeah, i'm looking at europe
2011-05-18T03:58:05  <McLeopold> every place has those
2011-05-18T03:58:10  <Frontier> McLeopold: I used the ant script on Windows and it worked there, too. I really wonder what needs root access there? Is it something with an incorrect wrong working folder? It should download all the stuff right into the source code folder.
2011-05-18T03:58:11  <antimatroid> it would be cool to get a change
2011-05-18T03:58:12  <McLeopold> UK has bad food too
2011-05-18T03:58:43  <McLeopold> Frontier: I'd have to uninstall and re-run to know why.
2011-05-18T03:58:48  <McLeopold> I didn't keep the logs
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2011-05-18T04:01:26  <smiley1983> I seem to recall some talk awhile ago about the possibility of using makefiles to compile the bots. Is this option still being considered?
2011-05-18T04:02:03  <aerique> smiley1983: apparently not: https://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge/issues/112
2011-05-18T04:02:57  <smiley1983> aerique: thank you
2011-05-18T04:03:22  <aerique> McLeopold: can't we use makefiles because of worker/compiler.py?
2011-05-18T04:03:43  <McLeopold> aerique: it doesn't support it right now
2011-05-18T04:03:58  <Frontier> Just use a language the can go with default compiler settings already :p
2011-05-18T04:04:13  <smiley1983> There are some compiler flags which I would like to use for final compilation before the submission deadline, but the optimizations can be slow, and there's no reason to chew up server time mid-contest for them. Makefiles would provide a neat solution to that.
2011-05-18T04:04:14  <McLeopold> janzert migh have got the jail working for compilation, and if so, then we may be able to do it
2011-05-18T04:04:57  <McLeopold> yes, we all think makefiles would be good, it's a matter of time
2011-05-18T04:05:12  <aerique> McLeopold: if I fix the CL starter to use MyBot.lisp, can I test the changes myself on a test server?
2011-05-18T04:05:14  <smiley1983> Right, thankyou for clarifying
2011-05-18T04:05:24  <aerique> that's a good enough reason indeed
2011-05-18T04:05:38  <smiley1983> I did suspect it might pose some security considerations.
2011-05-18T04:05:45  <McLeopold> aerique, yes, the compiler options are in the source...
2011-05-18T04:06:32  <McLeopold> https://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge/blob/epsilon/worker/compiler.py#L216
2011-05-18T04:07:19  <aerique> yeah, i'm looking at that, but i meant whether i can upload a submission.zip somewhere
2011-05-18T04:07:49  <McLeopold> we don't have one running consistently yet
2011-05-18T04:08:03  <aerique> alright, i'll just make the changes then and get back to work ;-)
2011-05-18T04:10:24  <McLeopold> aerique: although, check in with http://hypertriangle.com:13080/ every so often
2011-05-18T04:10:47  <aerique> thanks
2011-05-18T04:12:20  <McLeopold> aerique: btw, I'm new to lisp and trying to learn, but your starter bot still feels out of reach.  perhaps you could make a single file starter bot, and release the full shebang somewhere else?
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2011-05-18T04:15:16  <aerique> McLeopold: I'll see what I can do but I currently do not have a lot of time to spend on it.  I also made the initial more elaborate version at the request of mega, since he wanted ASDF and proxy-bot support :-)  (but that has moved elsewhere already: https://github.com/aerique/google-ai-challenge-2011-1-ants)
2011-05-18T04:16:19  <aerique> but i do get the reasoning for make it easy for total beginners, so i'll try
2011-05-18T04:16:44  <McLeopold> aerique: I still don't get proxy-bot.  I need a video of watching a lisper develop in the cli.
2011-05-18T04:18:15  <aerique> i'll try and find something on youtube for you (whether it's clojure, cl or scheme doesn't really matter for the general idea)
2011-05-18T04:18:54  <McLeopold> cool
2011-05-18T04:19:41  <McLeopold> when reading lisp books, they only ever say "lisper like to develop live", but never go into details of techniques
2011-05-18T04:20:20  <aerique> it's not quite dissimilare to live coding if you've ever seen videos of that
2011-05-18T04:21:51  <McLeopold> I've done live coding in debug mode in VS and Eclipse, but that's it.
2011-05-18T04:29:43  <CIA-48> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * r3636c29 / (4 files in 2 dirs): worker updates, totally broke rankings paginations, but at least something is showing - http://bit.ly/mfyLqs
2011-05-18T04:29:43  <CIA-48> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * ra52ad8b / (INSTALL.md setup/server_setup.py): Merge branch 'epsilon' of https://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge into epsilon - http://bit.ly/lXjuMc
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2011-05-18T05:20:27  <CIA-48> aichallenge: aerique epsilon * rcf2ad19 / (2 files in 2 dirs): Compile MyBot using MyBot.lisp. (issue 112) - http://bit.ly/jAQacc
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2011-05-18T07:12:15  <aerique> McLeopold: this one's pretty old but should get the idea across: http://common-lisp.net/project/movies/movies/slime.mov (there's more here: http://www.cliki.net/Lisp%20Videos)
2011-05-18T07:12:26  <aerique> oh, he isn't here
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2011-05-18T07:26:37  <mcstar> the french guy's presentation?
2011-05-18T07:27:46  <aerique> mcstar: are you talking to me? :)
2011-05-18T07:27:50  <mcstar> yep
2011-05-18T07:28:42  <mcstar> (it was kind of De Niro: you talking to me? huh you talking to me?)
2011-05-18T07:29:00  <aerique> mcstar: no, I promised McLeopold to give him a link about a typical Lisp development session
2011-05-18T07:29:22  <mcstar> slime.mov is the one with the french guy on osx
2011-05-18T07:29:30  <mcstar> showing off marse code in slime
2011-05-18T07:29:33  <mcstar> morse
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2011-05-18T07:32:27  <aerique> ah, like so.. then you were indeed correct :)
2011-05-18T07:35:12  <mcstar> do you use slime yourself?
2011-05-18T07:36:05  <mcstar> im using slimv, slim for vim
2011-05-18T07:37:16  <aerique> yup
2011-05-18T07:37:25  <aerique> how's slimv?
2011-05-18T07:38:05  <mcstar> im kind of a beginner
2011-05-18T07:38:09  <mcstar> so far so good
2011-05-18T07:38:32  <mcstar> better shortcuts as far as im concerned
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2011-05-18T07:38:52  <aerique> i'm happy there's an alternative to emacs when using slime
2011-05-18T07:39:35  <mcstar> if it werent i would use emacs
2011-05-18T07:39:48  <mcstar> it isnt that hard, but unusual
2011-05-18T07:40:27  <mcstar> slimv is a much younger project than slime
2011-05-18T07:40:58  <mcstar> is McLeopold interested in cl?
2011-05-18T07:41:23  <aerique> yes, he said he was learning it
2011-05-18T07:43:05  <mcstar> it is kind of pointless
2011-05-18T07:43:17  <mcstar> but i have to share with you how much i like the loop macro :)
2011-05-18T07:43:34  <aerique> it's my favourite thing as well :)
2011-05-18T07:44:28  <mcstar> one thing i noticed, that i almost read lisp code as i read text
2011-05-18T07:44:35  <mcstar> very easy on the eyes
2011-05-18T07:44:55  <mcstar> takes time to write it, but then it feels easy to read
2011-05-18T07:45:43  <aerique> good to hear.  that's quite a different viewpoint than most people have concerning lisp code :)
2011-05-18T07:45:56  <mcstar> i think ive read your intro to GA
2011-05-18T07:46:24  <mcstar> do you have some other in-depth example of it?
2011-05-18T07:47:39  <aerique> you mean this one?: http://aerique.blogspot.com/2011/01/baby-steps-into-genetic-programming.html
2011-05-18T07:47:48  <mcstar> gp, sorry
2011-05-18T07:47:53  <mcstar> thats it
2011-05-18T07:48:19  <mcstar> what was the speed of it?
2011-05-18T07:48:43  <mcstar> you wrote that you run it for 300 iterations?
2011-05-18T07:48:57  <aerique> i have no idea actually.  it very much depends on the cl implementation
2011-05-18T07:49:08  <aerique> feel free to benchmark it yourself :)
2011-05-18T07:49:41  <aerique> 500 total runs in that example
2011-05-18T07:50:13  <mcstar> i thought about doing GA for this contest
2011-05-18T07:50:26  <aerique> i hoping to do GP :)
2011-05-18T07:50:39  <mcstar> but i decided that i shouldnt, because i cant guarantee that ill get good results
2011-05-18T07:50:53  <mcstar> i started to write an own visualizer and an engine
2011-05-18T07:51:01  <aerique> i contributed a CL version for this GA Hello World project: https://github.com/jsvazic/GAHelloWorld
2011-05-18T07:51:02  <mcstar> i used lispbuilder-sdl
2011-05-18T07:51:13  <aerique> cool
2011-05-18T07:51:43  <mcstar> ill read it
2011-05-18T07:51:56  <aerique> i'm not expecting good results this time, but i'm definitely going to learn a lot
2011-05-18T07:52:11  <mcstar> can i ask you about that?
2011-05-18T07:52:15  <aerique> have you got any screenshots of your visualizer?
2011-05-18T07:52:25  <mcstar> well its more like code
2011-05-18T07:52:32  <mcstar> its a canvas with dots
2011-05-18T07:52:40  <aerique> yeah, sure.  perhaps in a private channel, i don't know if the other people are interested
2011-05-18T07:52:48  <mcstar> ok
2011-05-18T08:19:53  <CIA-48> aichallenge: janzert epsilon * r7f66265 / worker/compiler.py : Fix go compiler commands for 64bit - http://bit.ly/mcyESF
2011-05-18T08:56:54  <CIA-48> aichallenge: janzert epsilon * rd0d5be6 / worker/compiler.py : Include error message when compiler exits with an error return code - http://bit.ly/lJNrvp
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2011-05-18T10:51:18  <antimatroid> bam, one assignment done
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2011-05-18T12:04:14  <janzert> contestbot: later tell McLeopold does compiler.py compilet the java and scala starter bots for you? I get an error because the compiler exits with a return of 1
2011-05-18T12:04:14  <contestbot> janzert: I think that worked...
2011-05-18T12:05:28  <janzert> contestbot: later tell McLeopold where we use .deb files directly is because the repositories either contain too old of a version or don't have it at all.
2011-05-18T12:05:28  <contestbot> janzert: Yes master!
2011-05-18T12:11:36  <janzert> contestbot: later tell McLeopold Figured out the problem with java and scala compilation
2011-05-18T12:11:37  <contestbot> janzert: Job's done.
2011-05-18T12:13:25  <CIA-48> aichallenge: janzert epsilon * r8dc15a2 / setup/worker_setup.py : Up the sandbox process limit so java will run - http://bit.ly/k9eu4K
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2011-05-18T13:02:15  <McLeopold> janzert: Scala compilation was looking for *.class files, but the starter bot included *.scala files, so I changed what extension is looked for.  I'm not sure if that was correct or not.
2011-05-18T13:02:36  <McLeopold> janzert: I'm running 32 bit ubuntu and can't get go to compile
2011-05-18T13:03:03  <McLeopold> nor d
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2011-05-18T13:35:38  <bhasker> thanks Antimatroid!
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2011-05-18T14:09:10  <janzert> McLeopold: my problem with java and scala turned out to be that java needs to be allowed 15 threads/processes before it will run
2011-05-18T14:09:20  <janzert> and the sandbox was limiting it to 10
2011-05-18T14:10:15  <janzert> go is rather a pain because it uses a different compiler name depending on if you're compiling 32bit or 64bit
2011-05-18T14:10:39  <janzert> and I haven't even tried to see if D compiles yet
2011-05-18T14:26:08  <McLeopold> i386 doesn't install
2011-05-18T14:26:18  <McLeopold> I need gcc-multilib, but ubuntu doesn't like it
2011-05-18T14:34:34  <McLeopold> janzert: will we be able to add a language to the workers without having to start from scratch?
2011-05-18T14:35:56  <CIA-48> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * ra1c745f / (4 files): added ranking json - http://bit.ly/mGL2iE
2011-05-18T14:35:57  <CIA-48> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * rdcf92f4 / (3 files in 3 dirs): Merge branch 'epsilon' of https://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge into epsilon - http://bit.ly/khtnPa
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2011-05-18T14:55:51  <mcstar> have anybody considered a starter pack written in bash?
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2011-05-18T17:26:48  <janzert> McLeopold: for a new language you should be able to update compiler.py and install the new language into the base chroot and be good to go
2011-05-18T17:27:18  <McLeopold> with the setup script, or by hand?
2011-05-18T17:27:34  <janzert> at the same time, for planetwars the half life of a worker was approximately 8-10 hours so killing them all and starting fresh is what I would do on code updates
2011-05-18T17:27:37  <janzert> by hand
2011-05-18T17:27:57  <McLeopold> do you think our half-life will be higher?
2011-05-18T17:28:08  <janzert> I really hope so
2011-05-18T17:28:25  <McLeopold> should we higher Gordon?  isn't he freelance?
2011-05-18T17:28:36  <janzert> :)
2011-05-18T17:28:55  <McLeopold> let me share rankings
2011-05-18T17:29:05  <McLeopold> git push coming...
2011-05-18T17:29:30  <janzert> even if the workers are stable I don't have much aversion to killing them off and starting fresh ones in order to update them
2011-05-18T17:29:45  <janzert> I don't think we'll be doing that too frequently
2011-05-18T17:30:06  <McLeopold> it takes 30 minutes to install, though
2011-05-18T17:30:15  <McLeopold> btw, games are really slow in the jails
2011-05-18T17:30:29  <McLeopold> games are slow out of the jail as well
2011-05-18T17:30:51  <janzert> really? I can see disk access being fairly slow in the jail but a game shouldn't be doing that much at all
2011-05-18T17:31:03  <McLeopold> our game is a lot of data to churn through
2011-05-18T17:31:28  <janzert> as far as cpu or memory overhead the jail shouldn't be adding any at all
2011-05-18T17:31:36  <McLeopold> I ran some tests at 20 turns and it was taking a lot longer in the jails
2011-05-18T17:31:51  <McLeopold> outside of them, it was almost instant
2011-05-18T17:32:16  <Frontier> what could be causing it?
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2011-05-18T17:32:40  <McLeopold> it could be my system, it keeps getting stuck and not responding
2011-05-18T17:32:51  <Frontier> Oo
2011-05-18T17:33:21  <janzert> I haven't noticed any difference in speed here running the play_one_game.sh script when in or out of the jails
2011-05-18T17:33:42  <Frontier> and you both used the same setup?
2011-05-18T17:33:49  <janzert> I haven't put a stopwatch to it and timed it though
2011-05-18T17:34:27  <janzert> oh, good dmd has a amd64 .deb specifically for ubuntu now
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2011-05-18T17:35:27  <Frontier> :D
2011-05-18T17:35:27  <McLeopold> let me try play_one_game, I was doing worker stuff
2011-05-18T17:37:49  <janzert> also I'll be leaving town tomorrow for a week of work, so I'll probably not be around at all
2011-05-18T17:37:50  <Frontier> Would it help if I tested it, too?
2011-05-18T17:38:16  <janzert> wouldn't hurt :)
2011-05-18T17:38:31  <janzert> but you pretty much need a free machine or fresh vm to install on
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2011-05-18T17:39:15  <Frontier> hmm, I hoped a chroot folder would be enough ^^
2011-05-18T17:40:16  <janzert> the worker is doing semi-tricky things with chroot and unionfs to get a whole bunch of separate chroots for the separate jails to run in
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2011-05-18T17:42:26  <Frontier> yeah I read that the real directories reside in /home/jailuserN or something
2011-05-18T17:43:55  <janzert> each jail has a chroot at /srv/chroot/jailuserN/root/ but in order to keep from having 32 copies of the chroot OS on the disk they use unionfs to build an overlay from a base chroot at /srv/chroot/aic-base/
2011-05-18T17:44:47  <janzert> inside the chroot the submissions run as if they are at /home/jailuser
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2011-05-18T17:48:09  <McLeopold> janzert: fuse: mountpoint is not empty
2011-05-18T17:48:42  <Frontier> That's a good joke when you use unionfs
2011-05-18T17:48:45  <McLeopold> /srv/chroot/jailuser1/root [260] terminated with status 1, Filesystem could not be mounted: /srv/chroot/jailuser1/root
2011-05-18T17:49:12  <Frontier> there must be an option to force the mount
2011-05-18T17:49:23  <McLeopold> I can skip or manually recover
2011-05-18T17:50:42  <Frontier> What about "-o nonempty"?
2011-05-18T17:50:49  <McLeopold> I've got an empty proc and sys dir in the root folder
2011-05-18T17:51:22  <McLeopold> If that did work, I don't think I want it
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2011-05-18T17:52:46  <janzert> hmm
2011-05-18T17:52:58  <Frontier> is that when you mount /srv/chroot/aic-base into /srv/chroot/jailuser1/root?
2011-05-18T17:53:10  <janzert> my worker vm is rebuilding at the moment
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2011-05-18T17:53:29  <mcstar> hey ppl
2011-05-18T17:53:39  <mcstar> in the engine do you use space partitioning?
2011-05-18T17:53:49  <mcstar> quad-trees maybe?
2011-05-18T17:53:56  <McLeopold> no
2011-05-18T17:54:18  <mcstar> how do you test if objects are nearby?
2011-05-18T17:54:25  <janzert> did you maybe try to schroot before the unionfs-fuse filesystem was mounted?
2011-05-18T17:54:28  <McLeopold> we don't really need to do much with nearest neighbor queries
2011-05-18T17:54:47  <janzert> cause schroot would be mounting proc and sys in root/
2011-05-18T17:54:50  <mcstar> McLeopold: can you explain this?
2011-05-18T17:55:01  <janzert> in which case you can probably just delete them at this point
2011-05-18T17:55:04  <McLeopold> janzert: if it happens before I log in, I have no idea :[
2011-05-18T17:55:37  <janzert> it shouldn't be schroot would be an explicit command by yourself or the sandbox
2011-05-18T17:55:39  <McLeopold> mcstar: we do a full scan in the area of attack radius, the position offsets are cached
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2011-05-18T17:56:10  <McLeopold> janzert: what about recovering schroots?
2011-05-18T17:56:56  <Frontier> excuse the stupid question, but what you do cannot be done with a bind mount?
2011-05-18T17:57:43  <janzert> McLeopold: ? as in if the machine crashed while a chroot was ongoing
2011-05-18T17:58:02  <McLeopold> yeah
2011-05-18T17:58:29  <janzert> hmm, possibly
2011-05-18T17:59:10  <mcstar> McLeopold: so as far as i understand: you have a grid, NxM, the full dimension of the map is represented by a 2d array, and you bind objects to the squares
2011-05-18T17:59:11  <janzert> Frontier: basically they need copy on write semantics and I don't think you can achieve that with a bind mount point
2011-05-18T17:59:16  <McLeopold> I get a bunch of recovery/copyfiles messages on bootup
2011-05-18T18:00:17  <McLeopold> mcstar: we use a grid/matrix and store ints in them, we also have dictionaries to look up objects by location
2011-05-18T18:01:32  <McLeopold> so we can loop through a list of ants without doing a scan, or check to see if something is at a location, or use the matrix to scan for anything in the surrounding area
2011-05-18T18:01:35  <mcstar> so for example in [n,m] you have 12334 which is an index in another array
2011-05-18T18:01:55  <mcstar> ok
2011-05-18T18:02:24  <mcstar> i was considering space partitioning, but this sounds much simpler
2011-05-18T18:02:44  <McLeopold> the problem with space partitioning is that the space changes each turn
2011-05-18T18:02:53  <mcstar> yes
2011-05-18T18:03:00  <McLeopold> you'd have to do a lot of queries to make up for the overhead
2011-05-18T18:03:00  <mcstar> some fast update would be needed
2011-05-18T18:03:19  <mcstar> ok thx
2011-05-18T18:03:48  <McLeopold> plus, space is wrapped, you have to rewrite standard algos with that in mind
2011-05-18T18:04:15  <McLeopold> there is no such thing as a convex hull in ants :p
2011-05-18T18:05:01  <mcstar> ?
2011-05-18T18:05:01  <McLeopold> or, at least there are many hulls, and you'd want the one with the smallest area, but that's a lot of work
2011-05-18T18:05:11  <mcstar> yes
2011-05-18T18:05:17  <Frontier> hehe, i wrote code that generates the silhouette of land in ants yesterday
2011-05-18T18:05:41  <janzert> McLeopold: take a look in /var/lib/schroot/session/ if there is anything in there then that's probably schroot sessions leftover from a crash
2011-05-18T18:05:54  <McLeopold> janzert: can I just nuke them?
2011-05-18T18:06:03  <janzert> schroot -e should be used to get rid of them
2011-05-18T18:06:37  <janzert> schroot -e -c session-name-which-will-probably-be-really-long
2011-05-18T18:07:02  <janzert> what I'm trying to find is a command to list the session names
2011-05-18T18:07:33  <McLeopold> schroot -l
2011-05-18T18:07:34  <janzert> schroot -l might but I'm not sure
2011-05-18T18:07:40  <CIA-48> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * r0ff97aa / (4 files): new ranking widget start (in progress) - http://bit.ly/itjjh5
2011-05-18T18:07:45  <McLeopold> it doesn't give the long file names
2011-05-18T18:07:58  <janzert> that'll list the available chroots but I don't know if it lists active sessions
2011-05-18T18:08:15  <janzert> yeah, if there are no long names there it probably doesn't list the sessions
2011-05-18T18:08:43  <McLeopold> oooh, it looks like I have 40 sessions in var, with the session names?
2011-05-18T18:08:46  <janzert> well, schroot -e --all should end all the sessions
2011-05-18T18:09:01  <janzert> so long as you don't have anything that should be running
2011-05-18T18:09:28  <janzert> actually schroot -e --all-sessions would be better
2011-05-18T18:10:46  <McLeopold> /etc/schroot/schroot.conf
2011-05-18T18:11:25  <janzert> afk for a bit
2011-05-18T18:19:32  <janzert> ok, back. what about the schroot.conf?
2011-05-18T18:20:43  <janzert> the actual jail configs are in /etc/schroot/chroot.d/ btw
2011-05-18T18:24:29  <McLeopold> I'm all clean now
2011-05-18T18:24:54  <janzert> great
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2011-05-18T18:43:38  <janzert> think I've got dmd install working, doing a final test before checking it in now
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2011-05-18T19:10:30  <janzert> contestbot: seen lavalamp
2011-05-18T19:10:30  <contestbot> janzert: lavalamp was last seen in #aichallenge 8 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 23 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <lavalamp> ok I'll ask him at some point
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2011-05-18T19:17:30  <CIA-48> aichallenge: janzert epsilon * r5267f3f / setup/worker_setup.py : Fix dmd installation - http://bit.ly/ilnULT
2011-05-18T19:18:16  <janzert> Frontier: the worker will now install dmd 2.053, but the current starter bot has a deprecation error with it
2011-05-18T19:19:02  <janzert> specifically "std.date and std.dateparse have been scheduled for deprecation. Please use std.datetime instead."
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2011-05-18T19:23:00  <janzert> my ants/dist/starter_bots/c is just an empty directory, which I believe is because its a git submodule, how do I get it?
2011-05-18T19:23:21  <McLeopold> git submodule update
2011-05-18T19:23:30  <McLeopold> right after 'git submodule init'
2011-05-18T19:24:05  <janzert> otherwise all starter bots except for lolcode seem to work with compiler.py now
2011-05-18T19:24:16  <McLeopold> :( poor kitties
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2011-05-18T19:24:35  <McLeopold> I can't decide on the best lolcode implementation
2011-05-18T19:24:49  <janzert> heh
2011-05-18T19:25:09  <McLeopold> lci isn't capable of parsing strings, all the others are hacks, bfns, or special specs
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2011-05-18T20:24:40  <CIA-48> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * rc14af1b / (5 files): update to ranking pages - http://bit.ly/kK4nDZ
2011-05-18T20:24:40  <CIA-48> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * re4735cb / (3 files in 3 dirs): Merge branch 'epsilon' of https://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge into epsilon - http://bit.ly/kQ1Sdx
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2011-05-18T21:10:56  <McLeopold> janzert: how is it that github says you merged the same thing as me?
2011-05-18T21:12:03  <janzert> the merge always shows the previous commit
2011-05-18T21:12:35  <janzert> my real commit is the parent of the merge
2011-05-18T21:13:45  <McLeopold> ah
2011-05-18T21:22:32  <janzert> hehe, the website package dependencies now end up pulling in firefox somehow
2011-05-18T21:22:39  * janzert shakes his head
2011-05-18T21:24:15  <janzert> apparently through the icedtea-plugin used for the visualizer
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