2011-06-02T00:06:01 we should get the mime type set to something sane for game replay files 2011-06-02T00:06:24 what do we have now? 2011-06-02T00:06:59 firefox just identifies it as a php File 2011-06-02T00:07:23 how so? it's just a text file 2011-06-02T00:07:25 which actually rather weird 2011-06-02T00:07:55 I was assuming from the mime type but I actually don't have a way to look at the headers of the response easily 2011-06-02T00:08:06 Maybe if no Content-Type is sent it looks at the extension? 2011-06-02T00:08:25 except there is no extension 2011-06-02T00:08:30 http://aichallengebeta.hypertriangle.com/game/10000 2011-06-02T00:08:34 janzert: you could telnet maybe? 2011-06-02T00:08:56 janzert: My Firefox does not identify it as PHP. 2011-06-02T00:09:35 In fact, it is getting served as applicaiton/json 2011-06-02T00:09:37 janzert: i get Content-Type: text/html 2011-06-02T00:09:38 application* 2011-06-02T00:09:46 heh 2011-06-02T00:10:03 http://pastebin.com/rRXNSwtj 2011-06-02T00:10:07 curl --head http://aichallengebeta.hypertriangle.com/game/10000 2011-06-02T00:10:20 jbroman: real programmers telnet directly, lol 2011-06-02T00:10:50 we should probably fix the cache for this 2011-06-02T00:11:08 we won't need to change the contents of replay files 2011-06-02T00:11:20 amstan: You got /, not /game/10000 2011-06-02T00:11:23 of course the home page is text/html 2011-06-02T00:11:25 oh, right 2011-06-02T00:11:35 And *I'm* the newbie. 2011-06-02T00:12:12 lol 2011-06-02T00:16:01 hmm 2011-06-02T00:16:39 curl shows application/json raw telnet seems to show some binary encoding? maybe gzipped 2011-06-02T00:16:56 It is application/json, encoded with gzip. 2011-06-02T00:17:03 HTTP encoding does not affect MIME type. 2011-06-02T00:17:10 (Since the user agent is expected to decode it.) 2011-06-02T00:17:18 http://pastebin.com/kYwYzn9T 2011-06-02T00:17:19 right 2011-06-02T00:17:38 I'm not sure why firefox isn't handling it better though 2011-06-02T00:17:49 Dunno, seems OK for me. 2011-06-02T00:23:15 *** UncleVasya has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T00:40:04 *** MATPOC has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T00:45:27 sweet it only takes an ec2 worker about 7 minutes to set up and start running 2011-06-02T00:45:48 decent 2011-06-02T00:52:52 ok, ec2 server and worker running 2011-06-02T00:53:00 *** Palmik has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T00:53:26 the automated worker setup executed without a problem 2011-06-02T00:53:50 if anyone wants to add some bots you can access it at aibeta.janzert.com 2011-06-02T00:53:54 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2011-06-02T00:54:06 not sure how long it'll be up though 2011-06-02T00:54:36 *** yasith has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T00:54:59 *** MATPOC has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2011-06-02T00:56:35 *** Meatkat has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-06-02T01:05:01 *** Meatkat has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T01:10:10 McLeopold: ping 2011-06-02T01:15:12 ping 2011-06-02T01:15:18 janzert: 2011-06-02T01:15:49 so I've got a server and worker up on ec2 at aibeta.janzert.com 2011-06-02T01:16:11 4 accounts with successful submissions 2011-06-02T01:16:26 sandboxed? 2011-06-02T01:16:28 and a few maps for 4 players 2011-06-02T01:16:32 amstan: yes 2011-06-02T01:16:41 emails? 2011-06-02T01:16:45 what do I need to get games going? 2011-06-02T01:16:51 amstan: no email 2011-06-02T01:16:57 ./worker.py -n -t 0 2011-06-02T01:17:08 amstan: yeah that's working already 2011-06-02T01:17:16 it's compiling and testing submissions fine 2011-06-02T01:17:24 i think the manager also needs to be on 2011-06-02T01:17:26 you need maps in the database 2011-06-02T01:17:30 oh, yes 2011-06-02T01:17:33 ahh 2011-06-02T01:17:34 the manager is only needed if you want rankings 2011-06-02T01:17:34 probably 2011-06-02T01:17:42 manager is actually running already 2011-06-02T01:17:44 manager/add_maPS.. 2011-06-02T01:17:57 I got the maps in the directory but not added to the database 2011-06-02T01:18:40 don't include asymmetric, btw 2011-06-02T01:19:13 hmm, "No maps added, priorities not changed." 2011-06-02T01:19:21 Automattic map creation is something I was planning to put in the manager 2011-06-02T01:19:41 ahh, map names need to end with .map 2011-06-02T01:19:41 did you copy maps files from aichallenge/ants/maps to maps? 2011-06-02T01:19:58 no, created 20 new ones with symmetric mapgen 2011-06-02T01:20:49 an underscore would have looked nicer than a zero... 2011-06-02T01:23:05 janzert: did you know about integration_testing/create_test_bots? 2011-06-02T01:23:29 sorta, as in I know exists but haven't used it at all 2011-06-02T01:23:51 look at reset_server.sh 2011-06-02T01:24:03 yay, the worker is playing a game 2011-06-02T01:24:06 *** aeter has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T01:25:29 janzert: did you take a look at the apache settings? I've got special extensions for serving gzipped files 2011-06-02T01:25:39 nope 2011-06-02T01:25:45 so you should be able to gzip the map files with a .mapgz 2011-06-02T01:26:47 they're only basically downloaded by each worker once right? 2011-06-02T01:26:54 yes 2011-06-02T01:27:04 but others will want to download from the main site 2011-06-02T01:27:45 actually, I think urllib had issues with gzipped content... 2011-06-02T01:27:48 we should probably add a @reboot cronjob in the server_setup to start up the manager automatically 2011-06-02T01:28:34 don't expect it to be a major bandwidth drain in any case, do you? 2011-06-02T01:28:49 no, but it's there 2011-06-02T01:29:42 where's the game? 2011-06-02T01:29:57 still running it looks like 2011-06-02T01:30:20 haha, golang issues? 2011-06-02T01:30:47 yep, I think the starter bot isn't compatible with the latest go version 2011-06-02T01:31:06 so how does it work on beta? 2011-06-02T01:31:32 that's probably still using r56 I'm guessing? 2011-06-02T01:32:12 the version installed now is r57 I believe 2011-06-02T01:33:41 hmm, so I can see my new serial mode is running 2 bots simultaneously like I set it to but... 2011-06-02T01:33:54 I'm starting to wonder if it has an infinite loop :( 2011-06-02T01:34:16 did you do debug? 2011-06-02T01:34:22 you should see the turns progress 2011-06-02T01:34:51 nope, it's running exactly as the automatic install left it 2011-06-02T01:35:25 oh, it just finished 2011-06-02T01:36:33 game replay not found :( 2011-06-02T01:36:49 hmm, yeah. it doesn't exist on the server 2011-06-02T01:36:56 permissions issue? 2011-06-02T01:36:57 the games directory is empty 2011-06-02T01:37:16 yep 2011-06-02T01:37:52 *** Ice_Harley has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T01:38:01 beta has the www-data group with rwx 2011-06-02T01:38:18 also, the logs files need special permissions 2011-06-02T01:38:22 yeah, logs and maps had the correct group but not games 2011-06-02T01:38:24 which I don't really like 2011-06-02T01:39:06 www-data needs write access to api_log.txt (which will be turned off for launch) 2011-06-02T01:39:34 needs write access for the apache logs too doesn't it? 2011-06-02T01:39:40 no 2011-06-02T01:39:49 those are owned by root 2011-06-02T01:39:54 ahh 2011-06-02T01:40:03 manager.log did need access, but I think I fixed it 2011-06-02T01:40:16 though it would be nice to give it access 2011-06-02T01:40:42 I was using rolling log files, and when it rolled over, the new log didn't have rights for www-data 2011-06-02T01:41:04 aichallenge: janzert epsilon * rd504b51 / setup/server_setup.py : Fix group of replay directory - http://bit.ly/iSCozk 2011-06-02T01:41:36 yay, game 3 is there 2011-06-02T01:41:53 whoa, I see the bug in the go starter... 2011-06-02T01:42:56 oh, I also found a compiler.py problem for the new go install 2011-06-02T01:44:11 aichallenge: janzert epsilon * r61211d3 / worker/compiler.py : Don't specify full path to go compiler (recent install changes moved where it is) - http://bit.ly/m9ng1D 2011-06-02T01:45:46 hmm, so why is the map name missing the first letter on the profile page? 2011-06-02T01:46:03 too long or I messed something up when adding them? 2011-06-02T01:46:19 there's a 50px style on it 2011-06-02T01:46:38 ahh 2011-06-02T01:46:56 err, 85px 2011-06-02T01:47:38 whatever it is, it's a fixed pixel size 2011-06-02T01:47:39 something had to give, too much data :) 2011-06-02T01:49:49 yay and the leaderboard updates, but hmm isn't rank supposed to be in order of skill? 2011-06-02T01:50:22 that's weird... 2011-06-02T01:50:34 I thought I had fixed that... 2011-06-02T01:51:40 want a login? 2011-06-02T01:51:45 sure 2011-06-02T01:52:03 can I play with a snazzy amazon web app? 2011-06-02T01:52:54 what snazzy amazon web app would that be? 2011-06-02T01:53:41 manager is running in a screen from root right now 2011-06-02T01:55:27 Don't they have something? at least to turn it on and off? 2011-06-02T01:55:44 oh to control the ec2 instances? yeah 2011-06-02T01:55:57 sorry you don't get access to that :P 2011-06-02T01:56:31 putty is giving me "No supported authentication methods available" 2011-06-02T01:57:21 ugh, I bet it's set to only allow key logins by default 2011-06-02T01:58:31 same with ubuntu 2011-06-02T01:58:44 try again now 2011-06-02T02:02:35 ok, it let me login to that account now 2011-06-02T02:03:10 now the question is, did I get the sudoers set up right for it? 2011-06-02T02:03:26 I'm in, with my key 2011-06-02T02:03:32 great 2011-06-02T02:04:02 I'll go ahead and disable password logins again then 2011-06-02T02:04:03 may I install hg? 2011-06-02T02:04:30 go ahead 2011-06-02T02:04:37 *** UncleVasya has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T02:05:00 be aware this server is probably only going to stay up overnight or so though 2011-06-02T02:05:08 so don't get to invested in it ;) 2011-06-02T02:05:20 oh, it won't be moved to the final contest? 2011-06-02T02:05:42 nah, this was just a quick test for me to make sure everything worked on ec2 2011-06-02T02:06:13 who fixed the go starter? I didn't think I committed? 2011-06-02T02:06:28 I don't think anyone did? 2011-06-02T02:06:51 I fixed the go stuff in compiler.py a little while ago 2011-06-02T02:06:56 the paths that is 2011-06-02T02:07:03 my git status is lying to me... 2011-06-02T02:07:07 Are you talking about http://aichallengebeta.hypertriangle.com/ or something else? 2011-06-02T02:07:24 UncleVasya: http://aibeta.janzert.com/ 2011-06-02T02:08:08 feel free to create an account and beat up on the starter bots there :) 2011-06-02T02:08:15 aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * rf820b0e / (setup/server_setup.py worker/compiler.py): Merge branch 'epsilon' of https://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge into epsilon - http://bit.ly/iwKxSw 2011-06-02T02:09:11 janzert: Why thre is two beta servers now? 2011-06-02T02:09:25 yeah, shouldn't it be gamma? 2011-06-02T02:09:42 this is just my personal test to check that things work on ec2 2011-06-02T02:09:58 it probably won't stay around very long 2011-06-02T02:10:22 feel free to create an account and play though 2011-06-02T02:10:47 it is probably running games under the machine type that will be used for the final contest 2011-06-02T02:11:07 janzert: let's add a ton of java bots... 2011-06-02T02:12:10 "and beat up on the starter bots there." My current bot is a starter bot + 3 if-else to prevent suicide :) 2011-06-02T02:18:49 aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * rf60df04 / integration_testing/create_test_bot.py : fixed bug in java bot creation - http://bit.ly/lHPLZT 2011-06-02T02:19:25 janzert: where's the worker log? 2011-06-02T02:19:41 on the worker I assume? 2011-06-02T02:19:57 worker is an actual separate server 2011-06-02T02:20:02 * McLeopold facepalm 2011-06-02T02:20:56 can amazon tie ssh account together on separate servers? 2011-06-02T02:21:33 not really, it just installs one ssh key on server initialization 2011-06-02T02:21:46 so, are the workers working? 2011-06-02T02:22:16 yeah, it's just one but it is cooking away 2011-06-02T02:22:17 *** yasith has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-06-02T02:22:29 did it compile the java bots? 2011-06-02T02:24:25 looks like the java bots had compilation errors 2011-06-02T02:24:43 *** aeter has left #aichallenge 2011-06-02T02:25:08 './MyBot.java:3: class LeftyBot is public, should be declared in a file named LeftyBot.java', 'public class LeftyBot implements Bot {', ' ^', '1 error' 2011-06-02T02:26:41 *** Meatkat has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-06-02T02:27:39 janzert: I've created two accounts but on both I have Login Failed. 2011-06-02T02:29:34 did you click the confirmation link after creating the account? 2011-06-02T02:31:25 * UncleVasya is blind, me is stupid. 2011-06-02T02:31:56 it's because we don't have email confirmation working yet 2011-06-02T02:34:33 *** yasith has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T02:38:18 testacc1 is ruilov? After previous contest Brazil associated with ruilov for me :) 2011-06-02T02:38:53 :) nah, testacc are both just test accounts by me 2011-06-02T02:39:39 janzert: looks like some incorrect food amounts... 2011-06-02T02:40:10 pretty sure the only setting I changed was 'serial' 2011-06-02T02:40:28 and just in server_info.php 2011-06-02T02:40:31 I don't think I committed the correct values then 2011-06-02T02:41:49 aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * rbc42210 / (2 files): update to food amounts - http://bit.ly/jqtZOn 2011-06-02T02:43:19 janzert: why is worker so slow? 2011-06-02T02:43:30 I hope this isn't how it is going to really work 2011-06-02T02:43:46 I have a feeling it is because of the serial game? 2011-06-02T02:43:53 not sure really 2011-06-02T02:43:57 feel free to poke at it 2011-06-02T02:44:14 you saw the pm on a login to the worker as well? 2011-06-02T02:44:24 I gotta get off to bed soon 2011-06-02T02:46:11 jails? 2011-06-02T02:46:35 shouldn't be slowing the actual execution down any 2011-06-02T02:46:50 when I ran them it was quite a bit slower 2011-06-02T02:46:51 but it may introduce quite a bit more overhead to start and stop bots 2011-06-02T02:47:17 it looks to me like all the cpu in use is being used by the engine mostly 2011-06-02T02:48:29 is worker in a screen? 2011-06-02T02:48:43 *** ohCrivens has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T02:48:48 also I just realized the way it is sending bots to the get_moves function it doesn't filter out dead bots first 2011-06-02T02:49:12 so it may send only 1 or 0 live bots to it at a time 2011-06-02T02:49:14 look at the javabots 2011-06-02T02:49:24 yes? 2011-06-02T02:49:29 429M virtual? 2011-06-02T02:50:00 yes? 2011-06-02T02:50:34 resident is the more important number anyway right? 2011-06-02T02:50:52 maybe 2011-06-02T02:51:14 that's my understanding 2011-06-02T02:51:33 I forgot to change the language memory size too 2011-06-02T02:51:40 so, is the worker in a screen session?? 2011-06-02T02:51:50 I think it might be 2011-06-02T02:52:06 yep 2011-06-02T02:52:07 can I look? 2011-06-02T02:52:16 of course :) 2011-06-02T02:52:47 you'll need to set suid on /usr/bin/screen, then turn on multiuser and acladd 2011-06-02T02:53:05 you should have sudo 2011-06-02T02:53:31 I'm supposed to be at work in 7 hours so I really gotta go 2011-06-02T02:53:34 okay, but I don't have access to the screen 2011-06-02T02:53:45 it's running under root 2011-06-02T02:53:49 pretty sure 2011-06-02T02:56:21 *** jmcarthur has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2011-06-02T02:56:55 janzert: how do I get the worker to the foreground? 2011-06-02T02:57:25 ? 2011-06-02T02:57:38 oh 2011-06-02T02:57:56 *** xQuasar has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T02:57:57 hmm, probably easiest to kill it and restart it directly 2011-06-02T02:58:00 k 2011-06-02T02:58:29 actually in the screen session, fg %1 might have worked 2011-06-02T02:58:42 too late :) 2011-06-02T02:58:50 yeah, this is really slow 2011-06-02T02:58:52 not sure though since it was started from the start_worker script 2011-06-02T02:59:23 *** berak has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T02:59:47 the engine still starts and stops bots even when not running in serial mode? 2011-06-02T03:00:07 yes, I see it does 2011-06-02T03:00:47 ugh, and it even starts and stops them multiple times in one turn 2011-06-02T03:01:03 I can't compare jails to no jails cause the language were installed only inside the jails :( 2011-06-02T03:01:36 there really isn't any execution overhead in a jail 2011-06-02T03:01:46 it doesn't do any virtualization or such 2011-06-02T03:01:57 okay, but something is going on 2011-06-02T03:02:23 it does use the actual kill program to send the stop and resume signals 2011-06-02T03:02:39 I have a feeling that may be what is slowing it down so much 2011-06-02T03:02:53 what line? 2011-06-02T03:03:07 sandbox.py line 99 2011-06-02T03:03:17 it has to sudo and then run kill 2011-06-02T03:03:30 4 times per bot per move 2011-06-02T03:04:06 and running it through a shell 2011-06-02T03:04:08 for a dead bot only? 2011-06-02T03:04:24 actually just for alive bots 2011-06-02T03:04:58 getting rid of the shell=True which also requires formatting the command as a list might help some 2011-06-02T03:05:13 it'd be one less process started per call 2011-06-02T03:06:26 something like subprocess.cal(['sudo', '-u', self.name, 'kill', '-'+signal, '-1']) 2011-06-02T03:07:24 why do we need subprocess? doesn't python support signals? 2011-06-02T03:07:44 we have to send the signal as the jailuser 2011-06-02T03:08:19 contest won't have permission to send signals to a jailuser process 2011-06-02T03:09:18 janzert: Skill of some bots became changed but their Latest Games list is empty. 2011-06-02T03:09:19 one way to check the theory may be to just comment out the places in the engine where the bots are paused and resumed 2011-06-02T03:09:54 hmm.. 2011-06-02T03:09:57 * janzert points toward McLeopold, he's the one that would know about that 2011-06-02T03:10:09 * McLeopold points to sigh 2011-06-02T03:10:42 bedtime, this something to solve later, and it would be a showstopper 2011-06-02T03:11:28 yeah, I'm really out too. I'll leave the server up for now 2011-06-02T03:13:09 *** McLeopold has left #aichallenge 2011-06-02T03:24:36 *** jmcarthur has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T03:27:40 *** Ice_Harley has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-06-02T03:29:58 *** ltriant has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep) 2011-06-02T03:36:00 *** qacek has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) 2011-06-02T03:41:08 *** mceier has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T03:47:16 *** amstan has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-06-02T03:54:25 *** antimatroid has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-06-02T03:55:47 *** antimatroid has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T04:01:23 *** Ice_Harley has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T04:15:40 *** Naktibalda has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T04:20:31 *** Eruonen has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T04:36:21 *** Kingpin13 has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T04:54:14 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2011-06-02T04:58:38 janzert: on the beta test server virtual memory is the important number btw. 2011-06-02T05:07:14 *** UncleVasya has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T05:09:35 *** needsch has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T05:11:29 *** yasith has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2011-06-02T05:26:18 *** tomh has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T05:29:05 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T05:29:57 *** olexs has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T05:32:23 *** yasith has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T05:38:05 *** xQuasar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-06-02T05:43:59 *** xQuasar has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T05:44:18 *** Quasar has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T05:44:44 *** Quasar is now known as Guest78089 2011-06-02T05:48:22 *** xQuasar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-06-02T05:49:34 *** olexs has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2011-06-02T05:50:40 *** Guest78089 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-06-02T05:57:17 *** xQuasar has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T06:08:32 *** FireFly has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T06:12:08 It is quite cool to use JavaScript and the HTML canvas to make scetches and visualy verify algorithms before you implement them in a static language. 2011-06-02T06:18:05 *** xQuasar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2011-06-02T06:18:51 *** xQuasar has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T06:36:47 Does anyone have any idea what could cause the Beta server to crash a Java bot with a message stating: "Could not create the Java virtual machine." ? 2011-06-02T06:44:30 I have, but it is a long story 2011-06-02T06:44:43 In short: it is out of memory. 2011-06-02T06:46:25 ohCrivens: I'm quite sure it is not possible to run 10 Java bots in one game at the moment. On the real servers this will be different. 2011-06-02T06:46:59 Frontier, what does "" symbols mean in visualizer after player names? 2011-06-02T06:47:13 my encoding problems? 2011-06-02T06:47:53 *** delt0r___ has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T06:48:30 probably. There should be ticks and x. 2011-06-02T06:48:57 *** delt0r_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2011-06-02T06:49:37 Ice_Harley: these two: ✓✕ 2011-06-02T06:50:34 Ice_Harley: do you use the Java visualizer or the html one? Did you change your browser web site encoding to ASCII or something? 2011-06-02T06:51:20 Frontier, no. Actually I see squares both in Opera and in Chrome 2011-06-02T06:52:35 maybe someone changed the php files... I'll check 2011-06-02T06:53:10 hmm seems to be working for me. You are on ... Mac? Linux? 2011-06-02T06:53:42 I think I remember you were a Mac user 2011-06-02T06:53:44 windows 2011-06-02T06:53:50 no-no, never ) 2011-06-02T06:53:52 ah ok :p ... strange 2011-06-02T06:55:58 Frontier, how i see it: http://imageshost.ru/photo/132778/id644883.html 2011-06-02T06:56:01 These are symbol characters not present in every font. Therefor the OS has to set up a chain of fallbacks. I had problems in Java with other symbols before, but found these to be working for me and others. Next time I boot into Windows Vista I'll veryfy that. 2011-06-02T06:57:13 Ice_Harley: You did not mod your Windows in any way that could have an effect on installed fonts? 2011-06-02T06:59:11 I'm just asking because I actually get a few bug reports where the problem is in the system/browser configuration. So I want to go sure before I pull my hair. 2011-06-02T06:59:43 frontier: thanks. Half expected that answer :) 2011-06-02T07:05:14 I'm trying to precompute some data for ants, but the algorithm runs for minutes in JavaScript. I don't think it is feasible even in pure C :p 2011-06-02T07:09:20 ah I just confused Chrome again with my constant tapping on 'reload' 2011-06-02T07:16:00 Frontier, I have this problem on 3 windowses: at home, at work and at virtual machine 2011-06-02T07:16:51 that's bad. I'll have to replace them somehow then. 2011-06-02T07:17:20 if it's just symbols - maybe use small pictures? 2011-06-02T07:18:11 Can you draw some for me? 2011-06-02T07:18:29 *** needsch has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2011-06-02T07:32:41 me? I have both left hands :) 2011-06-02T07:35:22 *** GreenTea has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T07:35:45 why java machine of sir_macelon is never crash?.. 2011-06-02T07:36:45 my question would be, why java? 2011-06-02T07:49:46 *** sigh has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2011-06-02T07:53:02 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T07:53:24 portal 2: done 2011-06-02T07:59:35 *** smellyhippy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2011-06-02T08:01:29 mcstar: have you done the coop? 2011-06-02T08:01:35 i haven't even played portal yet :P 2011-06-02T08:04:51 then how do you know about coop? 2011-06-02T08:04:54 no i havent 2011-06-02T08:05:01 because thats multiplayer 2011-06-02T08:05:23 and i dont think that ill be playing that with anyone i know 2011-06-02T08:05:50 (oh, and the copy of my portal is borrowed from the internet) 2011-06-02T08:06:21 im sure u would appreciate the game though 2011-06-02T08:06:38 try it when u dont have to prepare foir exams 2011-06-02T08:08:43 GreenTea: maybe sir_macelon is first in the order the database returns the players so his VM gets memory first. That's just a wild guess. 2011-06-02T08:10:29 *** FireFly has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-06-02T08:11:46 *** olexs has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T08:14:21 *** FireFly has joined #aichallenge 2011-06-02T08:15:41 sir, I am from the internet 2011-06-02T08:15:50 gosh 2011-06-02T08:15:53 i don't need to do something to be an expert :P 2011-06-02T08:16:24 i have my first exam monday and i stil have 5 assignments to finish :P 2011-06-02T08:16:34 good thing it's a take home and I don't need to rote memorise a whole bunch of cra 2011-06-02T08:16:49 p 2011-06-02T08:17:34 have fun, then with portal, really, do you know the setting? 2011-06-02T08:17:42 yes 2011-06-02T08:17:55 place portal holes to help maneuvre yourself through the levels? 2011-06-02T08:17:56 then as a matematician i think u would find it amusing 2011-06-02T08:18:18 frontier and i were talking yesterday about games we'd like 2011-06-02T08:18:25 periodic boundary conditions in real space .... 2011-06-02T08:18:33 the one we both really wanted is a game where you can write your own scripts and have it all be fair play 2011-06-02T08:19:00 another i would like is a game where there was one big world developers could write games for, think gta/ea skate/ etc. online all in the one world where everyone does their own thing 2011-06-02T08:19:44 different objecives with different players on the same map? 2011-06-02T08:19:48 t 2011-06-02T08:19:50 yep 2011-06-02T08:19:59 hell, you already have that with something like ea skate 2011-06-02T08:20:03 but completely different things :P 2011-06-02T08:20:12 you're skating around a city while other players are jacking cars 2011-06-02T08:20:25 im only versed in coutner strike, half life, portal, and urban terror 2011-06-02T08:20:42 the only time i ever really play video games is at friends on consoles 2011-06-02T08:20:54 and we all used to skate (hardly any of us find the time anymore), so ea skate <3 2011-06-02T08:20:54 ive never used a console 2011-06-02T08:21:00 except linux console 2011-06-02T08:21:11 ba dum cha 2011-06-02T08:21:51 unfortunately i played a lot with urbanterror, during uni. years 2011-06-02T08:22:21 *** xQuasar has quit IRC () 2011-06-02T08:22:24 did you do anything besides physics at uni? 2011-06-02T08:22:42 no not really 2011-06-02T08:22:45 computers 2011-06-02T08:22:49 but nothing professinally 2011-06-02T08:23:48 well to be honest there were times when i was drunk once a week 2011-06-02T08:23:53 so theres that too 2011-06-02T08:24:15 hehe, in college that's what we'd do on the nights at the weekend 2011-06-02T08:24:16 drink 2011-06-02T08:24:37 i don't know how we used to survive hanging around outside in the cold drinking pre18 2011-06-02T08:24:41