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2011-07-11T04:21:09  <antimatroid> a1k0n_: you're a reddit celebrity :P
2011-07-11T04:21:18  <antimatroid> my friend pointed the post out to me at uni today
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2011-07-11T04:36:46  <GreenTea> Hi, i found that my bot always play on maps symmetric_NN where NN > 20
2011-07-11T04:38:00  <GreenTea> sir_macelon aways plays on height_map_NN
2011-07-11T04:38:08  <GreenTea> *always
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2011-07-11T04:49:31  <escortkeel> antimatroid: hi
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2011-07-11T05:21:32  <mcstar> i almost finished cleaning the house, but i sure could use a little pep talk...
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2011-07-11T05:41:12  <mcstar> it is done
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2011-07-11T05:41:17  <mcstar> what a relief
2011-07-11T05:42:00  <mcstar> it is so unfortunate that i cant put clean_up_the_house() in a loop
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2011-07-11T05:58:33  <mcstar> someone should explain to me this net-split thingy
2011-07-11T05:58:43  * antimatroid doesn't understand it either
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2011-07-11T05:59:21  <mcstar> i watered the dogs
2011-07-11T05:59:42  <mcstar> the female still thinks its some kind of punishment i think
2011-07-11T06:01:59  <antimatroid> hehe
2011-07-11T06:09:17  <escortkeel> he
2011-07-11T06:24:56  <mcstar> i added new syntax to lisp: i can access lists like this: #N@(list a0 a1....) instead of (nth N (list a0 a1....))
2011-07-11T06:25:22  <mcstar> of course the list can be a variable too: #N@mylist
2011-07-11T06:25:43  <mcstar> i expect my productivity to quadrouple
2011-07-11T06:27:16  <sigh> what will you do with all those parenthesis you aren't using?
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2011-07-11T06:27:35  <mcstar> they'll be given to my children
2011-07-11T06:27:41  <mcstar> when i have them
2011-07-11T06:28:11  <mcstar> :)
2011-07-11T06:28:36  <sigh> oops, you wasted one
2011-07-11T06:28:59  <mcstar> and a colon too, i can use one less keywords too
2011-07-11T06:30:22  <mcstar> there was a guy yesterday, who said waist instead of waste, it was soo funny
2011-07-11T06:31:10  <sigh> I blame english more than anything else
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2011-07-11T07:04:28  <jmcarthur> that wasn't a netsplit. it was a disconnect.
2011-07-11T07:04:51  <mcstar> no
2011-07-11T07:05:04  <mcstar> they were netsplits, on #lisp too
2011-07-11T07:05:21  <jmcarthur> well, then i must have missed it, because i was disconnected
2011-07-11T07:05:40  <mcstar> jmcarthur: care to explain what that is?
2011-07-11T07:05:51  <jmcarthur> or maybe that whole server went down and it just looked like a netsplit to everybody else
2011-07-11T07:06:06  <jmcarthur> netsplits are an artifact of irc being overengineered
2011-07-11T07:06:45  <jmcarthur> i'm not sure of the details, but every once in a while a server or two will become disjoint from the rest of them, so it will be as though there are two or three of every channel, with different sets of people in each one
2011-07-11T07:07:07  <jmcarthur> then they merge back up after the split is over
2011-07-11T07:07:57  <mcstar> "will become disjoint" is this planned? or happens for some outside reason?
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2011-07-11T07:10:20  <jmcarthur> rarely (never?) planned
2011-07-11T07:10:30  <jmcarthur> netsplits are mostly common when freenode is having some major issues
2011-07-11T07:10:42  <jmcarthur> like being attacked and stuff
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2011-07-11T07:11:45  <jmcarthur> but really, it's just a server-side mechanism being inappropriately exposed to the clients, as far as i can tell
2011-07-11T07:12:22  <jmcarthur> need multiple servers? fine, as long as i'm not aware of it...
2011-07-11T07:12:29  <sigh> jmcarthur: what you prefer it do instead?
2011-07-11T07:12:51  <jmcarthur> sigh: other kinds of web services don't seem to have the same problem. should do whatever they do
2011-07-11T07:13:41  <mcstar> so, for example the server im directly connecting to(gibson) can hand me over to another when such event occurs?
2011-07-11T07:13:46  <sigh> fair enough, but that's an architectural issue, your last statement made it sound like a ux issue :P
2011-07-11T07:14:25  <sigh> *ui
2011-07-11T07:14:53  <jmcarthur> it's an architectural issue being inappropriately exposed in the client-side interface
2011-07-11T07:15:16  <sigh> I don't think you can avoid exposing it without changing the architecture
2011-07-11T07:15:19  <mcstar> yeah, but if the above thing happens, then id like to be notified of this
2011-07-11T07:15:22  <jmcarthur> right
2011-07-11T07:15:46  <jmcarthur> but it's not just the architecture at fault. it's the specification itself (which demands that it be in the interface)
2011-07-11T07:15:58  <sigh> ah, fair enough
2011-07-11T07:16:31  <jmcarthur> mcstar: you won't usually be handed over to another server unless the server you are on forcibly disconnected you
2011-07-11T07:17:00  <jmcarthur> mcstar: just a plain netsplit will simply leave you stranded in smaller channels, sometimes you being the only person in them
2011-07-11T07:17:24  <mcstar> hm
2011-07-11T07:17:38  <mcstar> well, thx for the explanation :)
2011-07-11T07:17:58  <jmcarthur> it looks like everybody leaves, but they actually just keep right on talking without you
2011-07-11T07:18:14  <jmcarthur> that's when you get the short end of the stick, of course
2011-07-11T07:18:30  <mcstar> i think ive never experienced a netsplit
2011-07-11T07:18:31  <jmcarthur> more commonly it just looks like some smaller group of people leave
2011-07-11T07:18:45  <jmcarthur> yeah freenode has been more stable this year than in years past, i've noticed
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2011-07-11T07:19:00  <sigh> I haven't noticed too many netsplits
2011-07-11T07:19:25  <mcstar> i only use irc since this march?
2011-07-11T07:19:35  <jmcarthur> i usually notice them due to the large number of people in #haskell
2011-07-11T07:19:37  <mcstar> i made a channel on freenode for me and my friends
2011-07-11T07:19:54  <jmcarthur> if your client isn't configured right (mine never seems to be) you get a flood of netsplit messages
2011-07-11T07:20:10  <mcstar> what is your client?
2011-07-11T07:20:14  <jmcarthur> weechat
2011-07-11T07:20:21  <mcstar> hehe me two
2011-07-11T07:20:36  <mcstar> how can i scroll the nick-list?
2011-07-11T07:21:11  <mcstar> i only read the scripting section
2011-07-11T07:21:31  <mcstar> i added a notification script, which send a bell to the console, when a message arrived
2011-07-11T07:22:02  <mcstar> later i realized, why the downloadable scripts only notify you when you have a query-message or you set your nick highlighted :)
2011-07-11T07:22:15  <sigh> haha
2011-07-11T07:22:26  <sigh> notifications fire for me quite often
2011-07-11T07:22:35  <mcstar> you have a lucky name
2011-07-11T07:23:15  <sigh> especially some of the programming channels, people get frustrated and sigh a lot :P
2011-07-11T07:24:26  <mcstar> i have a similar story: i for a long time played urban terror(fps) under tha alias: someone
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2011-07-11T07:25:06  <sigh> ah yes
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2011-07-11T07:25:49  <peer> oh, I thought it wouldn't let you do this
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2011-07-11T07:26:04  <mcstar> what?
2011-07-11T07:26:13  <mcstar> you thought peer is reserved?
2011-07-11T07:27:10  <sigh> peer of "Connection reset by peer" fame
2011-07-11T07:27:40  <mcstar> hehe
2011-07-11T07:27:43  <sigh> refers to the server your are connected to
2011-07-11T07:28:20  <mcstar> oh, i hope you dont say my nick as macstar
2011-07-11T07:28:26  <mcstar> it is m. c. start
2011-07-11T07:28:28  <mcstar> -t
2011-07-11T07:29:00  <sigh> I haven't had reason to pronounce your name
2011-07-11T07:29:30  <sigh> but in case I do, I'll keep that in mind - em see start minus tee
2011-07-11T07:29:42  <mcstar> :D
2011-07-11T07:30:11  <mcstar> well, when i read in my mind i hear what im reading
2011-07-11T07:31:46  <sigh> I do too, to an extent, but I find my mind short-circuits a lot of things that it can't be bothered figuring out how to pronounce
2011-07-11T07:32:29  <sigh> and you get some people with un-pronouncable names
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2011-07-11T07:37:52  <mcstar> i feel like the oracle
2011-07-11T07:38:10  <mcstar> im eating menthol candy for a couple of days now
2011-07-11T07:39:11  <sigh> ok...
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2011-07-11T13:03:33  <bhasker> mcleopold?
2011-07-11T13:03:34  <bhasker> around?
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2011-07-11T19:09:57  <mcstar> nite
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2011-07-11T22:29:05  <smiley1983> The endpoint of this game doesn't quite look correct: http://aichallengebeta.hypertriangle.com/visualizer.php?game=76656
2011-07-11T22:32:16  <smiley1983> maybe some sort of exception when the "winner" has far fewer ants?
2011-07-11T22:33:04  <smiley1983> though I guess that could create its own problems
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