2011-08-24T00:09:47 *** Eruonen has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2011-08-24T00:29:37 *** dvladim has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T00:32:20 what happend with rank? Rank is frozen. 2011-08-24T00:36:29 *** okay is now known as okayzed 2011-08-24T00:47:57 *** dvladim has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2011-08-24T00:56:51 *** okayzed is now known as okay 2011-08-24T00:58:05 *** dlila has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2011-08-24T01:24:11 *** Apophis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2011-08-24T01:36:54 *** chris__0076 has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T01:40:01 *** chris___0076 has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T01:40:46 *** Chris_0076 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2011-08-24T01:43:21 *** chris__0076 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-08-24T01:58:48 *** okay is now known as okayzed 2011-08-24T02:07:48 *** mleise has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T02:18:41 *** Apophis has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T03:20:43 *** aerique has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T03:35:03 *** boegel has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T03:41:24 *** TTE has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T03:51:11 *** TTE has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2011-08-24T03:59:07 *** mceier has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T03:59:18 *** Palmik has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T04:02:42 *** Noobbbb has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T04:04:21 *** berak has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T04:09:52 *** Noobbbb has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2011-08-24T04:16:33 *** locutus3 has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T04:26:16 *** ibdknox has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-08-24T04:31:02 *** jako has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T04:57:30 *** delt0r_ has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2011-08-24T05:12:30 *** delt0r_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T05:13:57 hi all 2011-08-24T05:15:22 evening 2011-08-24T05:37:48 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T06:03:15 *** amstan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2011-08-24T06:43:34 *** FireFly has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T06:45:45 *** antimatroid has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2011-08-24T06:56:57 *** antimatroid has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T07:11:49 *** mathis_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T07:23:45 *** eashoka has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T07:30:35 *** onensora has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T07:53:03 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T08:33:32 *** rabidus has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T08:52:40 *** jako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-08-24T08:53:58 *** |UncleVasya| <|UncleVasya|!kvirc@31-12-147-142.dialup.umc.net.ua> has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T09:34:28 *** orivej has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T09:53:22 *** TTE has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T09:54:12 *** TTE has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2011-08-24T10:05:12 <|UncleVasya|> @seen amstan 2011-08-24T10:05:12 |UncleVasya|: amstan was last seen in #aichallenge 2 days, 18 hours, 7 minutes, and 6 seconds ago: mleise: sorry, i didn't realize the firefox was required, i tought someone was doing x forwarding with it or something 2011-08-24T10:05:24 <|UncleVasya|> @seen McLeopold 2011-08-24T10:05:24 |UncleVasya|: McLeopold was last seen in #aichallenge 2 weeks, 1 day, 8 hours, 13 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: _flag: not yet 2011-08-24T10:06:22 @last --from McLeopold --with contest 2011-08-24T10:06:22 mleise: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages. 2011-08-24T10:19:23 <|UncleVasya|> janzert: Hi. Please pay attention to the spam here http://ai-contest.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4 . There are already 3 themes without reaction from administration. I believe it makes forum look abandoned and dying for current and possible future members. 2011-08-24T10:20:01 *** |UncleVasya| is now known as UncleVasya 2011-08-24T10:20:16 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-08-24T10:44:02 oh yeah that's some nasty spam coming in 2011-08-24T11:00:27 "Won at ..." is a "turn the winner last took the lead". The lead in ants count or in scores? 2011-08-24T11:00:59 never mind 2011-08-24T11:20:30 lead in scores 2011-08-24T11:27:11 *** boegel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2011-08-24T11:30:05 *** okayzed is now known as okay 2011-08-24T11:33:08 *** aerique has quit IRC (Quit: ...) 2011-08-24T11:49:26 *** okay is now known as okayzed 2011-08-24T11:57:50 *** mathis_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-08-24T11:58:44 *** okayzed is now known as okay 2011-08-24T12:00:28 *** Hammerok has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T12:03:07 @last --from contestbot --with Error 2011-08-24T12:03:07 mleise: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages. 2011-08-24T12:03:23 *** Apophis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2011-08-24T12:04:33 *** Apophis has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T12:07:10 *** okay is now known as okayzed 2011-08-24T12:30:01 @later tell amstan remove spam from the forums you must :) 2011-08-24T12:30:01 antimatroid: Ready to serve, my lord. 2011-08-24T12:30:35 *** okayzed is now known as okay 2011-08-24T12:39:52 @fix the ranking page, which is broken for 2 days now :-) 2011-08-24T12:39:53 eashoka: I'm sorry Dave, err eashoka; I cannot 'fix'. 2011-08-24T12:49:26 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2011-08-24T12:51:50 *** eashoka has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2011-08-24T12:53:39 *** UncleVasya has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T12:57:42 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T12:57:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2011-08-24T12:59:05 *** delt0r_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-08-24T13:09:49 99.53% skill, well done mathis_ 2011-08-24T13:10:25 eashoka: what is broken? It loads for me. 2011-08-24T13:10:45 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC () 2011-08-24T13:11:55 *** delt0r_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T13:13:55 *** aklt has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T13:14:27 Hi, Any news on when the comp. starts? 2011-08-24T13:26:21 *** orivej_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T13:27:21 *** orivej has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2011-08-24T13:28:52 *** amstan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-08-24T13:30:37 the computer starts whenever you press the on/off button 2011-08-24T13:48:15 *** locutus3 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-08-24T13:54:22 *** nux67 has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T13:55:46 *** orivej_ is now known as orivej 2011-08-24T14:01:01 *** ibdknox has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T14:09:51 *** Naktibalda has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T14:37:43 mcstar: Ah, thanks for clarifying that fro me! 2011-08-24T14:57:33 *** boegel has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T15:02:06 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T15:02:06 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2011-08-24T15:11:26 *** nux67 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-08-24T15:21:35 *** ibdknox has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-08-24T15:23:42 Is there an official start date for the challenge? 2011-08-24T15:27:52 people often ask this, the answer is usually: it starts when it starts 2011-08-24T15:28:41 mcstar: Cool, thanks for the answer! I was searching for this infor for some time... 2011-08-24T15:29:40 yeah, we are all waiting for it to begin at last 2011-08-24T15:31:28 WellI am still workingh on getting my bot up and running and learning lisp in the process... I wonder why lisp did not become more popular than it is, it's really a nice language! 2011-08-24T15:32:21 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2011-08-24T15:33:35 did you ask something lispy the other day?ű 2011-08-24T15:33:52 aklt: Because while it's an awesome language, it's a really weird language (by comparison to more popular ones). 2011-08-24T15:33:53 Nope, it's my first time here 2011-08-24T15:34:04 pfff 2011-08-24T15:34:08 nope 2011-08-24T15:34:18 weird? you mean suits my brain? 2011-08-24T15:34:25 thats not weird, thats awesome 2011-08-24T15:35:22 jbroman: Yeah, I agree, but It seems that most popular languages have taken their fair inspiration from lisp anyway 2011-08-24T15:35:50 lol @ mcstar 2011-08-24T15:36:07 mcstar: This only means that your brain is also weird. 2011-08-24T15:37:25 naw, it means you are weird 2011-08-24T15:37:30 you weirdo 2011-08-24T15:38:39 my point is: to what are you comparing its weirdness? 2011-08-24T15:38:50 mcstar: "by comparison to more popular ones" 2011-08-24T15:38:59 (from my previous parenthetical) 2011-08-24T15:39:30 popularity!=rational 2011-08-24T15:39:37 -ity 2011-08-24T15:39:42 mcstar: Never said it was irrational. 2011-08-24T15:39:45 Merely unusual. 2011-08-24T15:39:51 you said weird 2011-08-24T15:39:56 weird is somewhat irrational 2011-08-24T15:40:05 because its not the natural thing you think of 2011-08-24T15:40:17 I did not mean to imply irrational. 2011-08-24T15:40:34 Merely that it seems alien to a programmer of C, BASIC or Java. 2011-08-24T15:40:50 jbroman: i could accept your first sentence provided you change weird to unusual 2011-08-24T15:41:31 and yeah, now i see the inside of the parantheses 2011-08-24T15:41:38 sorry, i didnt parse that part 2011-08-24T15:41:43 mcstar: Your a Lisp coder, parentheses should be part of your routine. 2011-08-24T15:41:50 s/,/;/ 2011-08-24T15:42:03 im want in REPL mode 2011-08-24T15:42:06 wasnt 2011-08-24T15:42:24 jbroman: im far from a lisp coder 2011-08-24T15:42:38 mcstar: A Lisp advocate, then. 2011-08-24T15:42:47 im like aklt with 2 months of advantage 2011-08-24T15:42:53 Which you are, because you are advocating it right now. 2011-08-24T15:42:57 :) 2011-08-24T15:43:36 im coding in c for like a month now 2011-08-24T15:43:51 its not that bad though 2011-08-24T15:44:11 but i miss it, id be happy to pick it up again when the contest starts 2011-08-24T15:44:18 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T15:44:26 Clearly someone should write a bot in J. 2011-08-24T15:44:36 i downloaded it 2011-08-24T15:44:48 the introduction is convincing 2011-08-24T15:45:03 but the learning curve is quite high for it 2011-08-24T15:45:23 It looks cool, but it seems like what would happen if you wrote Perl while high on LSD. 2011-08-24T15:45:37 someone with a strong functional background should pick it up more easily 2011-08-24T15:45:41 So very concise but incredibly opaque. 2011-08-24T15:45:53 whoa 2011-08-24T15:45:58 id never now 2011-08-24T15:46:59 (Disclaimer: I have not used J more than reading the Wikipedia article, so take my comments with the appropriate grain of salt.) 2011-08-24T15:47:05 i just cant imagine writing long maintainable code in J 2011-08-24T15:47:19 i just executed something from tutorials 2011-08-24T15:48:54 you said opaque 2011-08-24T15:49:01 jbroman: what did you mean by that? 2011-08-24T15:49:08 hides the inner workings? 2011-08-24T15:49:24 i like more transparent languages than 2011-08-24T15:49:32 mcstar: I meant opaque as in code, once written, is impossible to interpret at a later date. 2011-08-24T15:49:36 (Your code becomes a black box.) 2011-08-24T15:49:47 why is that good? 2011-08-24T15:49:52 It's not. 2011-08-24T15:49:55 This happens often with Perl (good Perl coders can avoid it, but most Perl coders are not good). 2011-08-24T15:50:09 you look at the code later, and its like a brain teaser to understand what it does 2011-08-24T15:50:39 Regular expressions also have this property. 2011-08-24T15:51:05 I call this "opacity" of a language, but that may be a definition of the term that's not widely used. 2011-08-24T15:51:17 I wouldn't put it past myself to make up terms. 2011-08-24T15:51:51 now i need to figure out what exactly did you mean by that 2011-08-24T15:52:08 does it mean: you are inclined to make up terms? 2011-08-24T15:52:48 aha, you describe yourself as someone who often makes up new terms 2011-08-24T15:52:50 right? 2011-08-24T15:53:01 Yeah. 2011-08-24T15:53:06 *** Redgis has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T15:54:10 I don't mean to say things in unnecessarily confusing ways. If this becomes a problem, let me know. :) 2011-08-24T15:54:14 oh, yeah, what i didnt like about J is the csyntax for comments 2011-08-24T15:54:19 .NB comment 2011-08-24T15:54:27 sry 2011-08-24T15:54:31 NB. comment 2011-08-24T15:55:13 jbroman: i usually understand english, but now im tired, and it was an unusual figure of speech 2011-08-24T15:55:44 It is an unusual figure of speech. And I could see how it would seem to make no sense if you tried to parse it word-by-word. 2011-08-24T15:56:13 yeah, you got to flow with the words, let them in, understand the whole at once 2011-08-24T15:58:26 i spotted an error of yours 2011-08-24T15:58:35 Your a Lisp coder... 2011-08-24T15:58:39 its Youre a... 2011-08-24T15:58:58 yeah, im a bugger 2011-08-24T15:59:00 mcstar: You're quite correct; it should have been "You're". 2011-08-24T15:59:10 I usually don't make that mistake too often. 2011-08-24T15:59:13 I hang my head in shame. 2011-08-24T15:59:20 no need for that 2011-08-24T16:05:03 *** jako has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T16:12:14 *** mleise has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2011-08-24T16:23:40 *** Hammerok has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-08-24T16:29:26 *** boegel has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2011-08-24T16:38:11 *** berak has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [SeaMonkey 2.0a3/20090223135443]) 2011-08-24T16:58:01 *** meduza has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T17:01:25 *** Naktibalda has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 6.0/20110812233755]) 2011-08-24T17:06:58 hi there. is it ok for my ants bot not been ranked for a reasonable amount of time (a day)? does it need to play particular number of games to be ranked? 2011-08-24T17:12:30 *** ibdknox_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T17:38:48 *** Palmik has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2011-08-24T17:39:12 *** meduza has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-08-24T17:45:28 *** mceier has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2011-08-24T17:47:53 *** ibdknox_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out) 2011-08-24T17:49:02 *** ibdknox_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T18:06:31 *** chris___0076 is now known as chris_0076 2011-08-24T18:06:52 *** FireFly has quit IRC (Quit: FireFly) 2011-08-24T18:27:07 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) 2011-08-24T18:29:19 *** Apophis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2011-08-24T18:30:32 *** onensora has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-08-24T18:30:56 *** onensora has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T18:33:14 *** Apophis has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T18:43:22 *** jako has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-08-24T18:44:58 *** aklt has quit IRC (Quit: See you!) 2011-08-24T18:49:04 *** ibdknox_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-08-24T19:41:56 *** ibdknox_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T19:45:09 *** ibdknox_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-08-24T20:07:42 *** Redgis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2011-08-24T20:59:41 *** delt0r_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-08-24T21:12:23 *** delt0r_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T21:13:54 *** orivej has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2011-08-24T21:26:30 *** ibdknox_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-24T21:28:05 *** ibdknox_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-08-24T21:49:00 *** amstan has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)