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IIRC 2011-08-26T05:39:24 yup 2011-08-26T05:39:50 i can understand them wanting it to keep to one language 2011-08-26T05:39:58 indeed 2011-08-26T05:40:21 some other people have been working on a tcp server as well iirc, might want to check github for forks 2011-08-26T05:40:26 I am not too hot at python... but it is not a hard language... 2011-08-26T05:40:33 sure 2011-08-26T05:40:43 won't start till tomorrow anyway 2011-08-26T05:41:36 i mainly want to work on / wrap up some personal projects before i lose two months on the challenge :) 2011-08-26T05:41:42 did the python version of TrueSkill get fixed, or is the beta server still using the java version? 2011-08-26T05:42:09 aerique: well starting this time of year would be silly anyway 2011-08-26T05:42:33 we are all on holiday or traveling... 2011-08-26T05:42:45 more or less--at least at university 2011-08-26T05:43:20 delt0r_: can't help with trueskill 2011-08-26T05:44:26 np 2011-08-26T05:44:48 anyway... real work to do here 2011-08-26T05:44:56 same here :) 2011-08-26T05:53:44 *** eashoka has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T05:55:32 Good Morning/Evening to All! 2011-08-26T05:58:12 *** Palmik has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-08-26T06:02:35 *** amstan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2011-08-26T06:05:29 *** boegel has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) 2011-08-26T06:11:39 @last --with tcp --nolimit 2011-08-26T06:11:39 mleise: [05:40:21] some other people have been working on a tcp server as well iirc, might want to check github for forks, [05:38:49] The TCP server interface is something that kinda needs to plug into the website toolchain or whatever, and [05:22:21] So I am back from Germany, and i am thinking of writing a TCP server (simple one) and Perhaps a JAntManager --or am i too (1 more message) 2011-08-26T06:12:05 more 2011-08-26T06:12:17 @more 2011-08-26T06:12:17 mleise: late? 2011-08-26T06:12:23 lol thx 2011-08-26T06:12:40 mleise: What do you want to know? 2011-08-26T06:13:39 @last --with "@last --with tcp --nolimit" --nolimit 2011-08-26T06:13:39 mcstar: [06:11:39] @last --with tcp --nolimit 2011-08-26T06:15:39 woah on my profile it says i've got a skill of 100.44 2011-08-26T06:15:53 i thought 100 was the maximum 2011-08-26T06:18:11 delt0r_: I want to know if anyone recently talked about a tcp server 2011-08-26T06:18:33 someone excluding you, you know 2011-08-26T06:28:55 *** Palmik has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T06:34:59 mathis: yeah you got a nice bot out there... I like the feature where it drives away other ants and clean up an area. cool! 2011-08-26T06:36:15 yeah i like that as well :) 2011-08-26T06:36:48 anybody knows why the ranking page continue to stay as broken... 5th continuous day now! :-( 2011-08-26T06:37:52 but in a lot of cases other enemy ants go in that clear area... you'd have to chase the enemies away circular in all directions ... 2011-08-26T06:38:20 mathis: yeah I noticed, it doesn't work well with some bots 2011-08-26T06:38:58 what is your won/lost battle ratio? mathis 2011-08-26T06:39:11 mathis: for instance, you have a minus record against kadiyaa if I'm not mistaken. 2011-08-26T06:39:27 my won/lost ratio against you ? 2011-08-26T06:39:46 ? 2011-08-26T06:39:48 oh my recent bot has played you only 3 times yet and you have won all! :-) 2011-08-26T06:39:55 do you see it somewhere on the page? 2011-08-26T06:40:07 no, im just curious if you know it 2011-08-26T06:40:27 oh no i haven't kept track of that 2011-08-26T06:40:34 im interested in how well the current best bot handles battles 2011-08-26T06:41:12 eashoka: to whom did you direct your question? 2011-08-26T06:41:37 mcstar: sorry, I got mixed up your names mcstar and mathis 2011-08-26T06:41:41 ok 2011-08-26T06:42:27 In my Pidgin your colors are even all a shade of pink. It's really easy to mix you all up, mathis, mcstar and eashoka. 2011-08-26T06:43:00 Which was that bot that lost due to a timeout 15 turns before the game was over? 2011-08-26T06:43:07 mcstar : BTW, what is your bot name ? 2011-08-26T06:43:13 mleise: dark blue, eashoka green, mathis cyan 2011-08-26T06:43:35 eashoka: imagine 2011-08-26T06:43:44 i havent updated it in quite some time 2011-08-26T06:44:02 i dont think i will until the contest starts 2011-08-26T06:44:11 mcstar : ok. waiting for the tcp server ? :-) 2011-08-26T06:44:17 no 2011-08-26T06:44:20 busy 2011-08-26T06:44:21 among my last 50 games there were 5 with kadiyaa, he won 3, i won 2 2011-08-26T06:44:54 mleise : could have been me. I had a notorious timeout problem. lost so many won games. specially against UVAnts 2011-08-26T06:44:55 mathis: arent you Plapp? 2011-08-26T06:45:15 (i know someone by that name) 2011-08-26T06:45:34 no, my real name is Mathis 2011-08-26T06:45:50 yeah, i know a Mathis Plapp 2011-08-26T06:46:04 ah okay no that's not me 2011-08-26T06:46:48 that was the game: http://aichallengebeta.hypertriangle.com/visualizer.php?game=109102 2011-08-26T06:48:23 It isn't mentioned anywhere but you can now press [Space], [PgUp], [PgDown] etc. without the browser catching those as well 2011-08-26T06:48:34 mathis: in kadiyaa's 10 games with you so far, he has won 6 and you 4 (or may be it's 5-5, I'm not sure) but that's remarkable considering the skill gap between bots. similarly I used to have a good time with Revolt, even though he is higher in skill 2011-08-26T06:49:20 mleise: that happens with too careful bots :) 2011-08-26T06:49:55 well they were both careful about their defense 2011-08-26T06:49:56 seems darkmomo doesnt handle corner cases well 2011-08-26T06:50:06 but not about their general activity 2011-08-26T06:50:12 hes got some mixup in ant selection, thats why to blocked messages 2011-08-26T06:50:27 to->the 2011-08-26T06:50:37 evetually hes got too many ants to control 2011-08-26T06:51:01 should have just attacked revolt 2011-08-26T06:51:41 more ants is not always better it seems ;) 2011-08-26T06:52:17 lol, its in c++ though 2011-08-26T06:52:29 mcstar, mleise : Revolt has got a simple solution for what you just explain. after some any size, he attacks all and exchange off ants. but there could be few games where the trick has backfired on him 2011-08-26T06:52:41 No language can reduce algorithmic complexity 2011-08-26T06:53:03 mleise: i meant that its an inherently fast language 2011-08-26T06:53:16 i wouldnt be suprised if it happend with pyhton 2011-08-26T06:53:32 but it seems he is already streching c++'s limit 2011-08-26T06:53:42 what I have seen so far is unless you are not doing some terrible wrong thing with the code, it is actually bit hard to get timed out :-) 2011-08-26T06:54:05 mcstar : not sure about c++, I know C is fast for sure 2011-08-26T06:54:36 hm, i dont think it'd be slower 2011-08-26T06:54:39 I wrote me a visual debugger that creates a graph of all the code modules and the time they took. 2011-08-26T06:54:42 eashoka : and java is not. but as mleise pointed out, it's the algorithm mainly 2011-08-26T06:55:30 its not just the algorithm, a good language/implementation can give you a magnitude speedup 2011-08-26T06:56:09 but yeah, surely, you can f up big time chosing a high time complexity alg. 2011-08-26T06:56:14 O(n²) algorithms will always timeout at a sensitive number of ants 2011-08-26T06:56:41 O(n) not? 2011-08-26T06:56:58 that was a bit exaggerated, but hey :p 2011-08-26T06:57:03 i see you are very comfortable with unicode 2011-08-26T06:57:08 mleise : here's another one. fun at my expense. http://aichallengebeta.hypertriangle.com/visualizer.php?game=152555&user=264 2011-08-26T06:57:18 With O(n) you have to do a lot of computations to run out of time. 2011-08-26T06:57:26 omg 2011-08-26T06:57:31 yeah, so what? 2011-08-26T06:57:49 O notation doesnt give you exact time 2011-08-26T06:58:03 a O(n^2) can be faster than an O(n) 2011-08-26T06:58:25 no, but we have always had games with ~1000 ants. And an n² algorithm makes that 1000000 operations. 2011-08-26T06:59:17 It is bound to time out in this game in any language with lots of ants. 2011-08-26T06:59:24 obviously you first have to differentiate among the ants with an O(n) selector 2011-08-26T06:59:37 mleise: you are talking about generalities 2011-08-26T06:59:46 its like tomorrow will be a day 2011-08-26T07:01:03 my point is, you really need to test an alg. to see where is the turning point 2011-08-26T07:01:13 narf, I'm gonna look at eashoka's link 2011-08-26T07:01:17 and of course profiling profiling profiling 2011-08-26T07:01:36 who is narf? 2011-08-26T07:03:23 for example to give you an example from my experience 2011-08-26T07:03:27 mleise: still there? 2011-08-26T07:03:38 uh yes, just came back from the visualizer 2011-08-26T07:03:58 well, for a* i need a priority queue implementation 2011-08-26T07:04:00 UvAntsBeta is just standing still, fascinating. But it still collects foof 2011-08-26T07:04:02 *food 2011-08-26T07:04:26 mcstar: most good libraries offer one 2011-08-26T07:04:27 eashoka: i like the fact that there are bots with higher skill losing repeatedly against bots with lower skill. 2011-08-26T07:04:31 they implement priority queues with binary of fibonacci trees 2011-08-26T07:04:34 *** jsmith_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T07:04:43 they are supposed to be much faster than naive implementationas 2011-08-26T07:04:45 -a 2011-08-26T07:04:47 i'm not using a single A*. shame on me 2011-08-26T07:05:06 well, i found that my list based implementation outperformed 3 correct tree-based ones 2011-08-26T07:05:26 *** jsmith_ has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2011-08-26T07:05:33 so the lesson, is that the data set is minimal for them to be effective 2011-08-26T07:06:18 mliese : yeah, I think he knows its beyond his calculation ability with that many ants so he just passes. (or he has a good time checker inside) which is smart. 2011-08-26T07:07:21 eashoka: simply extrapolate the estimated time requirements from the last turns. 2011-08-26T07:08:11 i think that game kind of show a phase transition 2011-08-26T07:08:21 mleise : good idea. thanks. 2011-08-26T07:08:41 actually more like a spinodal decomposition 2011-08-26T07:09:03 it would be interesting to study these games with statistical physics' methods 2011-08-26T07:09:25 but im sure if many useful conclusion could be drawn 2011-08-26T07:09:30 im not* 2011-08-26T07:09:38 *** sigh has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) 2011-08-26T07:09:59 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T07:10:03 i mean, people need to focus on the microscopic laws 2011-08-26T07:10:23 yeah this is no fluid simulation :) 2011-08-26T07:10:25 *** sigh is now known as Guest61329 2011-08-26T07:11:14 but I have no f... idea what aspinodal decomposition is 2011-08-26T07:11:41 yeah, but i dont exclude the possibility that from each bors microscopic law of motion/interaction the ending can be predicted with high accuracy 2011-08-26T07:11:52 bors->bots 2011-08-26T07:12:36 the problem with this, is that probably solving the theoretical model wouldnt be chaper(computationally) than playing the games 2011-08-26T07:12:44 cheaer 2011-08-26T07:12:46 f 2011-08-26T07:12:51 excuse my typos 2011-08-26T07:13:38 a spinodal decomposition is material separation in composit melts 2011-08-26T07:14:30 *** Obeleh has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T07:14:57 Can someone explain something to me? 2011-08-26T07:15:06 mathis : yeah me too. hope my next bot will give your one some competition. problem is the server is so slow now. I get only about 3 games per day 2011-08-26T07:15:10 I understand that ghostrankings are a nice thing to have 2011-08-26T07:15:11 how do you know me? Obeleh 2011-08-26T07:15:24 But what if my current skill > ghostranking.skill ? 2011-08-26T07:15:44 I'm still havig ghostranking after 13 games :( 2011-08-26T07:16:02 Do I know you?? Huh? 2011-08-26T07:16:18 I think I dont :P 2011-08-26T07:16:19 Obeleh: just a joke, i use the nick "someone" in a popular fps 2011-08-26T07:16:44 eashoka: why are you disappointed? 2011-08-26T07:16:45 Oh ok LOL :P 2011-08-26T07:16:54 the contest hasnt even begun 2011-08-26T07:17:07 Obeleh: the current rankings haven't been updated for about 3 days now i think 2011-08-26T07:17:16 i mean, you shouldnt really be developing your bot full-time 2011-08-26T07:17:20 mcstar : difficult to test bots without getting few games per day 2011-08-26T07:17:22 aaaah. Why? 2011-08-26T07:17:28 yeah, sure 2011-08-26T07:17:35 but why is it a problem? 2011-08-26T07:17:47 i see people react like you do 2011-08-26T07:17:56 and i dont understand what do they expect? 2011-08-26T07:17:59 Obeleh: i have no idea 2011-08-26T07:18:13 just wait till it begins, the work on it hard 2011-08-26T07:18:20 youll be given 2 months 2011-08-26T07:18:33 what will you do than, if you solve all your problems now? 2011-08-26T07:18:34 mcstar I'dd be willing to offer a server for the beta 2011-08-26T07:18:48 whoa, that is god news though 2011-08-26T07:18:53 +o 2011-08-26T07:18:57 talk to mleise 2011-08-26T07:19:03 he will direct you further 2011-08-26T07:19:12 My desktop PC isn't doing anything at home 2011-08-26T07:19:18 I use my Laptops all the time 2011-08-26T07:19:22 And I have a good connection 2011-08-26T07:19:27 obeleh : ideally ghost ranking should never be higher than your current ranking. 2011-08-26T07:19:37 eashoka: i hope there will be good competition soon, i don't feel motivated to work on my bot as long as i'm on the first place :D 2011-08-26T07:19:43 one problem: you could see the source 2011-08-26T07:19:51 youd be excluded from the participants 2011-08-26T07:20:45 Obeleh: the usual method is to rent a server in the cloud for the use of the organizers 2011-08-26T07:20:46 down 120 Mbit/s up 10 Mbit/s 2011-08-26T07:21:27 Wouldnt it be possible that I run a VM where I dont have any access to? Like no root and no user account? 2011-08-26T07:21:42 :S 2011-08-26T07:21:45 not sure 2011-08-26T07:21:59 i mean you definitely have to talk to them mcleopold and such 2011-08-26T07:22:07 mathis : will we can try to help you get your motivation back. :-) 2011-08-26T07:22:31 Obeleh: You could provide a server for the beta potentially. During the beta it is ok to have server access like I do. 2011-08-26T07:22:41 And as long as it is beta 2011-08-26T07:22:47 Yea thats what I meant 2011-08-26T07:22:50 erm 2011-08-26T07:22:54 erm? 2011-08-26T07:22:56 i not comfortable with that 2011-08-26T07:23:08 har har, I can haz your code anytime 2011-08-26T07:23:09 i mean people already load up pretty good codes 2011-08-26T07:23:15 Even with a VM where I dont hva access? 2011-08-26T07:23:27 mleise: can haz my cheezburger but nah mz codez 2011-08-26T07:23:48 And what if it only runs executables? 2011-08-26T07:23:56 Just as a match server 2011-08-26T07:24:12 Some other server could compile it and send it up 2011-08-26T07:24:14 you could provide a host for a tcp server 2011-08-26T07:24:21 that'd be totally okk 2011-08-26T07:24:40 If it makes you feel more comfortable, I'm not cheating. I haven't looked at a single submission unless it was to help someone fix a compilation error and they asked someone to take a look 2011-08-26T07:25:00 mleise: i didnt imply you are 2011-08-26T07:25:12 but i trust you 2011-08-26T07:25:19 sort of(not with my life) 2011-08-26T07:25:23 but why are you not confortable then? :) 2011-08-26T07:25:56 well, someone shows up, im not immediately comfortable with him getting access to all the uploaded sources 2011-08-26T07:26:29 I understand mcstar's reservations 2011-08-26T07:26:57 But Im sure we could work out something where I can donate CPU / Bandwith without me being able to Haz his codes? 2011-08-26T07:27:41 yeah like i said the tcp server 2011-08-26T07:27:49 but it needs to be done first 2011-08-26T07:27:49 Obeleh : thanks man! g8 to hear 2011-08-26T07:28:25 meanwhile I could run executable for the beta ? 2011-08-26T07:28:28 Obeleh: what we refer here by tcp server, is like your machine running games with bots connecting remotely over http 2011-08-26T07:28:33 The cloud servers probably use the compiled binaries, but for languages like JavaScript that doesn't make a difference 2011-08-26T07:28:36 I know 2011-08-26T07:28:42 I participated last season 2011-08-26T07:28:46 ok 2011-08-26T07:28:55 Was in top 100 untill I had to stop for school 2011-08-26T07:28:56 i didnt :) 2011-08-26T07:29:18 mcstar: you didn't participate in PlanetWars? 2011-08-26T07:29:23 no 2011-08-26T07:29:32 Doesnt a TCP server need like tons of free ports? 2011-08-26T07:29:35 You sound like a aichallenge pro 2011-08-26T07:29:39 Because Im behind a router 2011-08-26T07:29:49 sry, its a deception 2011-08-26T07:29:51 :D 2011-08-26T07:30:19 Obeleh: consider that an http server handles thousands of connections over port 80 2011-08-26T07:30:21 lol. - free ports, yes. hmm. UPNP? 2011-08-26T07:30:33 kk 2011-08-26T07:31:08 the routed packets know where to go, when the os gets them 2011-08-26T07:31:22 im not sure about the details 2011-08-26T07:31:27 oh yes, you only need one open port for the bots to connect and the server will then switch over from this listening socket to a new socket. the router can handle this. 2011-08-26T07:31:46 ok 2011-08-26T07:32:48 If I reinstall my destop and give you ssh/ vnc access that would be fine? 2011-08-26T07:32:55 Obeleh: you interested in developing the server? 2011-08-26T07:33:08 as in: there is no server yet :p 2011-08-26T07:33:24 Cant we copy the old one? 2011-08-26T07:33:35 I suppose 75% would be the same 2011-08-26T07:33:37 thats kind of half-assed solution 2011-08-26T07:33:52 berak tried, didnt succeed fully 2011-08-26T07:34:15 now delt0r_ is going for the same glory 2011-08-26T07:34:27 talk to them 2011-08-26T07:34:34 delt0r played last season right? 2011-08-26T07:34:50 I think I remember his name 2011-08-26T07:35:14 yeah he has that strange comic icon on the forums 2011-08-26T07:35:37 delt0rid 2011-08-26T07:35:49 i think its a typo 2011-08-26T07:35:52 btw sry about my github pull request ;) 2011-08-26T07:35:58 I was blind ;) 2011-08-26T07:36:14 I didnt notice the login link at the top of the site 2011-08-26T07:36:55 mleise 2011-08-26T07:37:24 hm, your net is 80 times faster than mine 2011-08-26T07:37:29 im kind of envious 2011-08-26T07:37:31 I don't maintain the website, just the visualizer, Obeleh :) 2011-08-26T07:37:38 ah ok 2011-08-26T07:37:57 mleise : any updates on the state of scheduling/pairing defects ? 2011-08-26T07:38:22 mcstar My city is going to get fiber somewhere this year :D 2011-08-26T07:38:30 no. i don't even know who would work on that except for McLeopold 2011-08-26T07:38:46 that poor guy will be flooded with work when he's back 2011-08-26T07:39:18 Obeleh: interesting, add my citiy to the list 2011-08-26T07:39:27 hahaha 2011-08-26T07:39:55 We have crazy DL:UL ratios here of 10:1. 2011-08-26T07:40:03 my little village is located in a local monopoly 2011-08-26T07:40:12 Where do you guys live? 2011-08-26T07:40:17 far from you 2011-08-26T07:40:21 Netherlands here 2011-08-26T07:40:27 im inbetween 2011-08-26T07:40:40 im not sure 2011-08-26T07:40:58 hungarian? 2011-08-26T07:40:59 mleise: in between what? 2011-08-26T07:41:12 yeah 2011-08-26T07:41:16 im between the netherlands and hungary 2011-08-26T07:41:21 really? 2011-08-26T07:41:28 i got to check it out 2011-08-26T07:41:33 not 100% sure, let me take a look 2011-08-26T07:41:46 mleise : ha ha 2011-08-26T07:42:10 germany ? 2011-08-26T07:42:26 well, yeah. but im much closer to Obeleh. eashoka: right 2011-08-26T07:42:39 i see norway 2011-08-26T07:42:42 is that it? 2011-08-26T07:42:52 I live in the South of the Netherlands 2011-08-26T07:42:54 i mean where is neverlands? 2011-08-26T07:43:02 LOL 2011-08-26T07:43:11 I'm the furthest away.... Sri Lanka. hope you guys heard of it b4 :-) 2011-08-26T07:43:42 i dont get this 2011-08-26T07:43:49 is netherlands a country? 2011-08-26T07:43:55 mcstar: Oo 2011-08-26T07:44:02 http://maps.google.com/maps?q=weert&hl=nl&ll=50.771208,5.328369&spn=7.047434,13.392334&sll=52.132633,5.291266&sspn=6.840721,13.392334&vpsrc=6&z=7 2011-08-26T07:44:14 holland is a province in that country. heard of it? 2011-08-26T07:44:36 Most people indeed know Holland but not The Netherlands 2011-08-26T07:44:37 they smoke joints there legally 2011-08-26T07:44:56 oh 2011-08-26T07:44:59 ok 2011-08-26T07:45:01 I dont smoke :D 2011-08-26T07:45:05 i was looking for it up north 2011-08-26T07:45:11 finland/sweden 2011-08-26T07:45:32 Anyway we digres 2011-08-26T07:45:35 Sri Lanka... isn't that sourrounded by lots of water? 2011-08-26T07:46:07 they have good to right? 2011-08-26T07:46:12 to->tea 2011-08-26T07:46:16 where can I have a look at Teh Codez of teh TCP Servah? 2011-08-26T07:46:26 an island by India? 2011-08-26T07:47:00 i ve got ceylon associated with sri-lanka in my mind 2011-08-26T07:47:11 i check that out too 2011-08-26T07:47:31 i dont even know where are the bigger cities in my own country 2011-08-26T07:47:36 so pls guys excuse me 2011-08-26T07:48:00 *** boegel has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T07:49:03 mcstar : u r right about ceylon! congrats 2011-08-26T07:49:23 i see, its the same thing :) 2011-08-26T07:49:28 i didnt know that though 2011-08-26T07:49:30 tea, water all are correct. 2011-08-26T07:50:23 I got Teh Codez 2011-08-26T07:50:29 It's C++ :( 2011-08-26T07:50:40 sure? 2011-08-26T07:50:46 i mean what are you looking at? 2011-08-26T07:51:22 gtg. catch you guys later. once again, thanks Obeleh for your donation! waiting to see a high powered beta server pretty soon. :-) 2011-08-26T07:51:34 b 2011-08-26T07:52:30 *** eashoka has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2011-08-26T07:55:34 *** GeorgeSebastian has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2011-08-26T07:55:57 i go too, im reading about set theory and it hurts 2011-08-26T07:56:00 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) 2011-08-26T07:59:56 hahaha 2011-08-26T08:42:03 Obeleh: you live in Weert then? 2011-08-26T08:45:35 *** mleise has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2011-08-26T08:47:30 *** mleise has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T08:50:22 yes 2011-08-26T08:50:44 why? Where do you live? 2011-08-26T08:51:40 *** boegel has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2011-08-26T08:51:50 Obeleh: Delft :) 2011-08-26T08:52:35 Ik was al naar de rankings aant kijken of ik daar wat kon vinden :P 2011-08-26T08:53:00 Ongeveer dezelfde skill atm zie ik :) 2011-08-26T08:53:41 Oh nee ik kijk verkeerd 2011-08-26T08:53:49 je hebt nu 48.40 2011-08-26T08:53:52 Obeleh: haven't really worked on my bot for a good while. will do when the challenge is out of beta 2011-08-26T08:54:18 My bot doesnt know any offense atm so dont worry 2011-08-26T08:55:40 aerique are you a student ? 2011-08-26T08:55:58 I dont see any affiliation 2011-08-26T08:56:17 Obeleh: no, i'm not.. i'm a wage slave 2011-08-26T08:58:17 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T09:02:49 Mee too but I study 1 day a week 2011-08-26T09:04:01 lol @ typo 2011-08-26T09:12:32 *** zobilamouche has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2011-08-26T09:19:40 *** zobilamouche has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T09:20:35 *** zobilamouche is now known 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2011-08-26T12:14:27 *** mathis has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) 2011-08-26T12:21:52 will C++0x (C++11) be supported? 2011-08-26T12:23:26 *** onensora has quit IRC () 2011-08-26T12:33:34 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-08-26T12:43:51 *** mathis_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T12:47:17 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T12:47:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2011-08-26T12:53:35 *** GeorgeSebastian has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T12:53:35 *** GeorgeSebastian has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T12:54:06 *** Hammerok has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-08-26T12:56:32 kire: If it isn't too difficult to set up (I don't believe it is), it is likely someone will be willing to get it going for the real contest. 2011-08-26T12:56:59 It probably won't happen right away for the beta (with the reduced activity here). 2011-08-26T12:57:40 *** Apophis has joined #aichallenge 2011-08-26T12:57:51 it isnt' difficult, but depends on the gcc 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