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2011-09-14T02:26:31  <CIA-24> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * rbfddf83 / (4 files in 2 dirs): switch trueskill implementation to php - http://git.io/pImI3Q
2011-09-14T02:26:57  <McLeopold> janzert: if you're around, I'm about to possibly break the workers
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2011-09-14T03:07:44  <CIA-24> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * rdcc63fe / website/sql.php :
2011-09-14T03:07:44  <CIA-24> aichallenge: fix sql.php
2011-09-14T03:07:44  <CIA-24> aichallenge: it was a vim fail :( - http://git.io/OKbMlg
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2011-09-14T04:07:34  <McLeopold> @later tell janzert TrueSkill is now using the PHP implementation, created by moserware, this should be better than a Java shell process
2011-09-14T04:07:34  <contestbot> McLeopold: Ready to serve.
2011-09-14T04:07:59  <McLeopold> @later tell janzert and someone needs to explain the PHP assign by reference crap to me :(
2011-09-14T04:07:59  <contestbot> McLeopold: Yep.
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2011-09-14T07:04:18  <delt0r__> @later tell McLeopold There is a easy JSkills fix, its not a mem issue. Its a "breaking" ties issue and iterative solver barfs with a exception when a warning would be fine
2011-09-14T07:04:18  <contestbot> delt0r__: I come to serve.
2011-09-14T07:05:18  <delt0r__> antimatroid: no I have heard nothing from Tassie.
2011-09-14T07:05:31  <delt0r__> Also my daughter has moved out ;)
2011-09-14T07:05:32  <antimatroid> muggles :(
2011-09-14T07:06:07  <antimatroid> also, was the real world that bad?
2011-09-14T07:06:19  <delt0r__> ??
2011-09-14T07:06:32  <antimatroid> i need to work out what to do next year, i'm thinking phd then working cause academics sounds like such a pita (finding a job)
2011-09-14T07:07:09  <antimatroid> you went out and worked then went back to academia yeah?
2011-09-14T07:07:12  <delt0r__> oh... yea i didn't like it... I will go back if i need to.. i get offers all the time.. but i prefer academia
2011-09-14T07:07:42  <delt0r__> Also i have 400 cores free on our cluster right now... some GA antbot sounds like fun
2011-09-14T07:07:52  <antimatroid> if i can get money to keep playing around with maths for 3 years i'll do that, but not sure what to do after, algo trading /quant work is appealing for the money
2011-09-14T07:08:03  <delt0r__> yea--and stayed working while doing my Masters.
2011-09-14T07:08:34  <antimatroid> australia is annoying, people go straight to phd from honours so there's almost no scholarship money available for masters :(
2011-09-14T07:08:36  <delt0r__> it won't last. HFT is already attracting too much neg publicity...
2011-09-14T07:08:46  <antimatroid> which makes it slightly difficult for people who would like to do a phd in europe
2011-09-14T07:09:10  <antimatroid> HFT has been around for years right? the money wont disappear there's just going to be more people getting their slice
2011-09-14T07:09:12  <delt0r__> well in the EU a masters is what you do when your bork your Diploma
2011-09-14T07:09:26  <delt0r__> antimatroid: no its pretty new
2011-09-14T07:09:30  <delt0r__> like 10 years
2011-09-14T07:09:34  <antimatroid> i was told from a guy at uni of edinburgh that people usually do undergrad, honours and masters before a phd
2011-09-14T07:09:45  <delt0r__> that is the UK
2011-09-14T07:09:47  <antimatroid> i can't imagine people are going to stop using computers for trading :P
2011-09-14T07:10:12  <delt0r__> which is like NZ and Aussie... While mainland EU does the diploma thing
2011-09-14T07:10:13  <antimatroid> but yeah, the market will dilute however one wants to define that
2011-09-14T07:10:20  <antimatroid> ah yeah okay
2011-09-14T07:10:22  <delt0r__> they are supose to change to the masters system
2011-09-14T07:10:46  <antimatroid> people in the us go straight from undergrad to phd :| but undergrad is 4 years and phd often 5 :\
2011-09-14T07:11:22  <delt0r__> No, it will have more "bugs" that require roll backs (HFT) --eventually its going to be time capped... or at least stuffing etc will be pulled
2011-09-14T07:11:31  <antimatroid> obtaining grant money sounds awful, as does having to move every time you get a new job :\
2011-09-14T07:11:43  <delt0r__> I kinda like it
2011-09-14T07:11:49  <delt0r__> but shifting is a PITA
2011-09-14T07:12:58  <delt0r__> getting grants is not really that bad... you apply for 20 and get 1
2011-09-14T07:12:58  <delt0r__> that is just the way it is
2011-09-14T07:13:03  * delt0r__ starts eating lunch
2011-09-14T07:13:23  <antimatroid> :)
2011-09-14T07:55:27  <antimatroid> any game theory fans might like these nontrivially symmetric 3x3 games i made :)
2011-09-14T07:55:27  <antimatroid> http://pastebin.com/yxyNg2Vp
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2011-09-14T12:02:17  <jnwhiteh> Has anyone successfully gotten the Go starter package working?
2011-09-14T12:02:31  <jnwhiteh> I keep getting the incredibly useful error: Output file /home/contest/compiled/tmp0J6Zha/bot/MyBot was not created. =)
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2011-09-14T13:32:59  <McLeopold> mleise: you around to answer a visualizer question?
2011-09-14T13:33:37  <mleise> Yes, I was just discussing something with someone in some other channel
2011-09-14T13:34:18  <McLeopold> I want to pass map data to the visualizer.  map.php works, but I can't seem to make my own string in javascript that works
2011-09-14T13:34:39  <McLeopold> I'm using loadReplyData, not from uri
2011-09-14T13:37:59  <mleise> Yes, that should work as documented :p If it doesn't it is a bug. It is used in copy&paste.html as well
2011-09-14T13:38:33  <mleise> So maybe check if you can load your string if you paste it there.
2011-09-14T13:38:34  <McLeopold> I get a "v" expected error
2011-09-14T13:39:01  <mleise> v as in "v 1" ... hmm that sounds like it detects an old-school replay
2011-09-14T13:39:29  <McLeopold> the loadReplayData and loadReplayDataFromURI do different things to the object
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2011-09-14T13:39:40  <mleise> do you use proper JSON syntax?
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2011-09-14T13:39:52  <mleise> hey come back
2011-09-14T13:40:06  <McLeopold> woops, I just did vi commands in pidgin
2011-09-14T13:40:19  <mleise> Can you post your string somewhere?
2011-09-14T13:40:33  <McLeopold> 'rows 4\ncols 4\nplayers 2\nm .a..\nm ..%.\nm ...b\nm %...\n'
2011-09-14T13:41:10  <mleise> add "v 1\n" :)
2011-09-14T13:41:16  <McLeopold> I did, no cide
2011-09-14T13:41:18  <McLeopold> dice
2011-09-14T13:41:36  <mleise> hmm is this only a map?
2011-09-14T13:42:03  <McLeopold> loadReplayDataFromURL does this: this.replayStr = ''; this.replayReq = undefined; this.loadParseReplay()
2011-09-14T13:42:23  <McLeopold> loadReplayData does this: this.replayStr = ''; this.loadCanvas();
2011-09-14T13:42:28  <McLeopold> yes, only a map
2011-09-14T13:44:01  <mleise> then you don't need "v 1", that is correct, let me check
2011-09-14T13:44:22  <McLeopold> is it expecting json data, not a string?
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2011-09-14T13:44:55  <mleise> no it is ok and it seems to work fine in copy_paste.html
2011-09-14T13:45:06  <McLeopold> where is copy_paste.html?
2011-09-14T13:45:27  <mleise> I still support every format we ever used :p - it is in the ants/visualizer directory
2011-09-14T13:46:37  <mleise> I actually wonder why it expects "v" since this is the value I check for to determine wether the string is a map or a replay. And in a map it would not be required
2011-09-14T13:48:03  <mleise> McLeopold: Did you properly construct the Visualizer object?
2011-09-14T13:48:52  <McLeopold> maybe not, I set interactive to true?
2011-09-14T13:49:01  <mleise> that's ok
2011-09-14T13:50:10  <mleise> If copy_paste.html works for you we have something to start with.
2011-09-14T13:57:52  <McLeopold> mleise: it does work for me
2011-09-14T13:58:35  <McLeopold> mleise: var visualizer = new Visualizer(document.getElementById('map1'), 'visualizer/', true, 100, 100, { fullscreen: false });
2011-09-14T13:59:27  <mleise> ok, so 'visualizer/' contains the 'img' directory, right?
2011-09-14T13:59:49  <McLeopold> yes, this is test_map.php sitting on the website
2011-09-14T13:59:57  <McLeopold> using the min version of visualizer
2011-09-14T14:01:36  <mleise> If you want to disallow fullscreen mode you can add "window.isFullscreenSupported = function() { return false; };"
2011-09-14T14:02:16  <mleise> test_map.php on which server?
2011-09-14T14:02:24  <McLeopold> my test server
2011-09-14T14:02:31  <mleise> can I access it?
2011-09-14T14:02:42  <McLeopold> I can push it to the repo
2011-09-14T14:03:07  <mleise> ok that should do :)
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2011-09-14T14:04:07  <mleise> you can avoid the min version of the js in the ant build if you create a local.properties file with "js.minify: false" in it
2011-09-14T14:05:44  <McLeopold> maybe I need to build the min version again?
2011-09-14T14:05:57  <CIA-24> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * r15c15cf / website/test_vis.php : testing 2 visualizers at once - http://git.io/ZnPqHQ
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2011-09-14T14:13:52  <mleise> McLeopold: I copied your code into a new html file next to the copy_paste.html, used the header and footer from copy_paste.html and changed the directories and it just works
2011-09-14T14:14:07  <McLeopold> mleise: your import function is pulling the wrong import base
2011-09-14T14:14:25  <McLeopold> it's getting http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.6.2/
2011-09-14T14:15:06  <mleise> ah shit :p
2011-09-14T14:16:16  <mleise> but that is not the problem with the min version (when did you last rebuild it?)
2011-09-14T14:16:26  <McLeopold> no
2011-09-14T14:16:29  <McLeopold> this is new
2011-09-14T14:16:39  <McLeopold> I'm setting it in code, so don't worry about it
2011-09-14T14:16:46  <mleise> maybe I should look for the <script> that contains 'visualizer.js'
2011-09-14T14:16:56  <McLeopold> but, maybe you could look for the script that is called visualizer?
2011-09-14T14:17:01  <McLeopold> haha
2011-09-14T14:17:02  <McLeopold> jinx
2011-09-14T14:17:20  <mleise> I wanted to keep that function universal
2011-09-14T14:17:57  <McLeopold> okay, so 3 different sources from different uri's all use that import, who's who?
2011-09-14T14:18:02  <mleise> well actually, it can be overriden by setting "var $import_base = 'somewhere'"
2011-09-14T14:18:47  <McLeopold> now it works
2011-09-14T14:18:55  <McLeopold> I think I had an old min.js file.
2011-09-14T14:19:10  <mleise> universal as in 'can be used in any project that only uses one source of js files'
2011-09-14T14:19:28  <mleise> All the trouble just because of an outdated file?!
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2011-09-14T14:19:37  <McLeopold> yeah, I understood that.  when some javascript is running, can you tell which script tag it is from?
2011-09-14T14:19:45  <McLeopold> yes, outdated file
2011-09-14T14:20:02  <mleise> I don't think so
2011-09-14T14:20:15  <McLeopold> but I learned about isFullscreenSupported, which is good
2011-09-14T14:21:22  <mleise> Yes, it is used inside the applet to disable fullscreen, where it is a Java method that returns false.
2011-09-14T14:21:57  <mleise> This also hides the fullscreen button altogether
2011-09-14T14:22:01  <McLeopold> can the visualizer not show zoom and save settings in interactive mode?
2011-09-14T14:22:19  <McLeopold> hmm... never mide
2011-09-14T14:23:42  <McLeopold> mleise: I'm looking to have a small map to show example ant positions.  Can the visualizer still show attack radii in non-interactive mode?
2011-09-14T14:24:30  <mleise> The problem first of all is that a map doesn't contain any radii !
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2011-09-14T14:24:39  <McLeopold> oh, yeah
2011-09-14T14:24:42  <McLeopold> can I add it?
2011-09-14T14:25:08  <mleise> And then - in non-interactive mode - this would also show up on the front page of the contest (the sample game)
2011-09-14T14:25:29  <McLeopold> hmm
2011-09-14T14:25:34  <McLeopold> we need three modes?
2011-09-14T14:25:39  <mleise> :)
2011-09-14T14:25:43  <McLeopold> maybe the options can turn features on and off?
2011-09-14T14:27:07  <mleise> what other features are you thinking of?
2011-09-14T14:28:01  <mleise> Why don't you want to work with interactive mode?
2011-09-14T14:28:26  <McLeopold> setting the individual buttons on and off would be nice
2011-09-14T14:28:42  <McLeopold> setting the text size and the top right
2011-09-14T14:28:44  <mleise> they don't even have names :p
2011-09-14T14:28:57  <McLeopold> inclusion of player names at the top and the graph
2011-09-14T14:29:30  <mleise> ah ok, so that makes sense to me
2011-09-14T14:29:46  <McLeopold> turning on drag, circle radii
2011-09-14T14:30:17  <McLeopold> It may not be worth it
2011-09-14T14:30:20  <mleise> if i just hide all buttons, then there is no 'center map' function :(
2011-09-14T14:30:22  <McLeopold> only if it is easy
2011-09-14T14:30:31  <McLeopold> double-click?
2011-09-14T14:31:10  <mleise> double-click is free, yes. or maybe the 'c' key
2011-09-14T14:31:18  <McLeopold> both
2011-09-14T14:32:06  <mleise> ok, then keep using interactive mode and I'll work on making a few more options available
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2011-09-14T14:33:11  <McLeopold> k
2011-09-14T14:33:45  <mleise> (that reminds me, I have to handle focus now. A mouse click should switch the keyboard focus to the selected visualizer)
2011-09-14T14:34:09  <McLeopold> yea, 'cause i'm planning to have several maps on a page
2011-09-14T14:34:19  <mleise> exactly
2011-09-14T14:35:31  <mleise> It's getting late here, I wont have anything ready today. Maybe tomorrow
2011-09-14T14:35:38  <McLeopold> okay, no rush
2011-09-14T14:42:12  <mleise> You can add the radii to the map file, but it looks like that wont work out of the box
2011-09-14T14:42:27  <McLeopold> it does :)
2011-09-14T14:42:29  <McLeopold> I tried it
2011-09-14T14:43:01  <mleise> I get rendering artifacts in Opera
2011-09-14T14:43:34  <mleise> oh yeah in Chrome it works :)
2011-09-14T14:44:16  <McLeopold> eww, Opera is usually good about standards compliance
2011-09-14T14:45:08  <mleise> It really is. Don't forget that browser developers also support non-standard stuff to display buggy web sites. This may just be a case where I operate outside the spec of something.
2011-09-14T14:45:23  <mleise> Maybe sqrt(-1) or something :)
2011-09-14T14:45:30  <McLeopold> nice
2011-09-14T14:45:42  <McLeopold> does javascript have Imaginary?
2011-09-14T14:45:46  <McLeopold> it has Infinity
2011-09-14T14:46:10  <mleise> no, it just implements double as in C or Java
2011-09-14T14:46:23  <mleise> integers are also stored as doubles
2011-09-14T14:47:04  <mleise> NaN is the only other special value that works for doubles
2011-09-14T14:49:45  <mleise> McLeopold: Looks like I had an outdated visualizer-min.js in my Opera
2011-09-14T14:50:09  <McLeopold> I got artifacts with the new one
2011-09-14T14:52:33  <mleise> McLeopold: I think that is a problem with the small map size (radius > map size)
2011-09-14T14:52:47  <McLeopold> oh, could be
2011-09-14T14:53:10  <mleise> I am a bit proud of my parser code though, that handles the newly added map parameters out of box :)
2011-09-14T14:55:07  <McLeopold> I get artifacts in both chrom and opera if I move the mouse correctly
2011-09-14T14:55:25  <McLeopold> and the smaller radius did help alot
2011-09-14T14:55:31  <mleise> Yes I can reproduce that
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2011-09-14T15:10:55  <mleise> Ok, I found a bug that prevented the circles from disappearing when the mouse leaves the central area
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2011-09-14T15:12:07  <mleise> McLeopold: but the circles will render on top of each other as long as the map stays so small, because I render everything with wrapping (so you can easily spot the same ant in repeated parts of the map
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2011-09-14T15:12:41  <McLeopold> that's okay, I can make the maps with more border
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2011-09-14T15:17:03  <mleise> i'm off
2011-09-14T15:17:07  <McLeopold> cya
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2011-09-14T15:46:30  <CIA-24> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * rfa012e5 / (3 files in 2 dirs): allow for maps to be created from <pre> tags - http://git.io/ADzzYQ
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2011-09-14T16:04:48  <CIA-24> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * rc98629f / (4 files): update some pages with map visualizer capabilities - http://git.io/xcsDeQ
2011-09-14T16:05:13  <amstan> https://plus.google.com/118210384829172301796/posts/jjWqV2wZvYr
2011-09-14T16:07:26  <McLeopold> wow O_o
2011-09-14T16:09:12  <McLeopold> amstan: I can't pull the aichallenge.wiki on beta
2011-09-14T16:09:23  <amstan> McLeopold: aww, why not?
2011-09-14T16:09:37  <McLeopold> permission denied
2011-09-14T16:09:41  <McLeopold> I'm in as contest
2011-09-14T16:10:03  <McLeopold> looks like it was done as root
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2011-09-14T16:10:16  <amstan> McLeopold: yeah, the setup script uses root to create it
2011-09-14T16:10:30  <amstan> would be nice if it chowned everything back after
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2011-09-14T16:19:58  <McLeopold> hi janzert
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2011-09-14T16:21:38  <McLeopold> woot \o/ http://aichallengebeta.hypertriangle.com/specification.php check out the map up top
2011-09-14T16:21:52  <McLeopold> it comes directly from the wiki text
2011-09-14T16:21:57  <amstan> McLeopold: nice
2011-09-14T16:21:59  <amstan> McLeopold: how?
2011-09-14T16:22:08  <McLeopold> check out the last 2 commits
2011-09-14T16:22:09  <amstan> McLeopold: also, how useful is that? lol
2011-09-14T16:22:29  <McLeopold> jQuery selector to function that creates visualizers that load map data
2011-09-14T16:22:32  <amstan> McLeopold: well, it's a cool thing, but it would be more useful in the forums
2011-09-14T16:22:44  <amstan> because on the main site we'll use it like twice
2011-09-14T16:22:51  <McLeopold> Very useful for the last pages we need to write
2011-09-14T16:22:51  <McLeopold> strategy guides and such
2011-09-14T16:23:11  <McLeopold> Explaining the game as well, the current spec sucks balls
2011-09-14T16:23:33  <amstan> last contest we didn't really have strategy guides
2011-09-14T16:23:39  <amstan> nobody wanted to write them
2011-09-14T16:23:48  <McLeopold> well, not it's as easy as writting some text in the wiki
2011-09-14T16:23:51  <McLeopold> now
2011-09-14T16:23:59  <McLeopold> so, anyone can contribute easily
2011-09-14T16:24:02  <amstan> yeah, i guess
2011-09-14T16:24:03  <amstan> ok
2011-09-14T16:24:11  <amstan> problem is that you can't fork wikis
2011-09-14T16:24:15  <McLeopold> so, I think we can launch this weekend, seriously
2011-09-14T16:24:37  <amstan> oh wait, i don't have money on my phone
2011-09-14T16:24:42  <amstan> i retired it like 2 months ago
2011-09-14T16:24:48  <amstan> @last j3camero
2011-09-14T16:24:48  <contestbot> amstan: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; (1 more message)
2011-09-14T16:24:55  <amstan> @last --from j3camero
2011-09-14T16:24:55  <contestbot> amstan: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.
2011-09-14T16:25:02  <amstan> @last --from j3camero --nolimit
2011-09-14T16:25:02  <contestbot> amstan: Error: I couldn't find a message matching that criteria in my history of 1000 messages.
2011-09-14T16:25:07  <amstan> @seen j3camero
2011-09-14T16:25:07  <contestbot> amstan: j3camero was last seen in #aichallenge 12 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 25 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <j3camero> Text me at 416 464 3096.
2011-09-14T16:25:10  <amstan> that ^
2011-09-14T16:29:22  <trololo> this weekend!? yippee!!!
2011-09-14T16:29:30  <jnwhiteh> Has anyone gotten the Go sample package to work? I just get a non-useful error message saying the executable wasn't created.
2011-09-14T16:30:12  <amstan> jnwhiteh: can you pastebin it?
2011-09-14T16:30:18  <amstan> jnwhiteh: you sure you compiled it?
2011-09-14T16:30:36  <jnwhiteh> amstan: what do you mean did I compile it?
2011-09-14T16:31:16  <jnwhiteh> The only error given is: Output file /home/contest/compiled/tmp0J6Zha/bot/MyBot was not created.
2011-09-14T16:31:27  <amstan> the compiler tells you this?
2011-09-14T16:31:30  <jnwhiteh> no
2011-09-14T16:31:32  <jnwhiteh> the website
2011-09-14T16:31:36  <jnwhiteh> the program compiles just fine
2011-09-14T16:31:39  <jnwhiteh> on my machine
2011-09-14T16:31:43  <amstan> ic
2011-09-14T16:31:55  <jnwhiteh> there's a bug in the starter package, but I've fixed it
2011-09-14T16:31:58  <amstan> jnwhiteh: a link to your profile might be helpful
2011-09-14T16:32:04  <amstan> McLeopold: can you look into this?
2011-09-14T16:32:07  <jnwhiteh> http://aichallengebeta.hypertriangle.com/profile.php?user=817
2011-09-14T16:32:38  <jnwhiteh> If you download the starter package and upload it, you get no errors or anything, just the message I pasted =)
2011-09-14T16:32:48  <amstan> yeah, that's no good then
2011-09-14T16:32:56  <jnwhiteh> I figured as much, thanks for checking
2011-09-14T16:37:15  <amstan> McLeopold: yeah, so there's a bunch of tmps in ~contest/compiled/
2011-09-14T16:37:19  <amstan> McLeopold: i don't think that's right
2011-09-14T16:37:39  <jnwhiteh> ack, that could get messy quick
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2011-09-14T16:37:42  <jnwhiteh> glad I stopped uploading =)
2011-09-14T16:38:07  <amstan> well, a rm tmp* could fix it
2011-09-14T16:38:10  <amstan> the problem is why this happens
2011-09-14T16:39:48  <amstan> McLeopold: the manager is also off, is that supposed to be off?
2011-09-14T16:40:07  <amstan> i'm guessing so: ProgrammingError: (1146, "Table 'aichallenge.leaderboard' doesn't exist")
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2011-09-14T17:03:28  <McLeopold> amstan: the manager is not used at all anymore
2011-09-14T17:03:49  <McLeopold> we aren't generating leaderboard entries, everything is live off of the submission table
2011-09-14T17:04:07  <McLeopold> and the trueskill calc is php now, so we don't use it for that either
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2011-09-14T17:11:23  <jnwhiteh> amstan: Anyplace I can check back tomorrow to see if its been fixed?
2011-09-14T17:11:52  <amstan> jnwhiteh: well, idk how to fix these, i assume mcleopold heard me
2011-09-14T17:11:59  <jnwhiteh> okay =)
2011-09-14T17:12:00  <amstan> jnwhiteh: if not, janzert could give it a try
2011-09-14T17:12:04  <amstan> tomorrow maybe
2011-09-14T17:12:12  <amstan> jnwhiteh: don't worry, buy the time we launch, it should be fixed
2011-09-14T17:12:17  <jnwhiteh> npnp :P
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2011-09-14T17:13:01  <jnwhiteh> it might be a good time to update the Go starter package as well to one of the more recent releases. The code that's up there uses Split instead of Splitn. You can fix that just by running gofix *.go
2011-09-14T17:13:10  <jnwhiteh> but I'm sure we can work around it =)
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2011-09-14T17:13:25  <mcstar> noooooooooo
2011-09-14T17:13:31  <mcstar> submissions are closed?
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2011-09-14T17:14:07  <amstan> mcstar: they are?
2011-09-14T17:14:27  <mcstar> thats what the page says where there was the upload dialog :(
2011-09-14T17:14:49  <amstan> mcstar: mcleopold said he wants to launch soon, but didn't tell me he was closing submissions
2011-09-14T17:14:52  <mcstar> Sorry, submissions are now closed. Good luck in the finals.
2011-09-14T17:15:26  <mcstar> i left a bug in my latest submission, i wanted to upload a previous one
2011-09-14T17:15:27  <amstan> jnwhiteh: https://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge/issues/3
2011-09-14T17:15:35  <amstan> jnwhiteh: it's our policy of language software
2011-09-14T17:16:19  <jnwhiteh> no problem then =)
2011-09-14T17:16:37  <mcstar> theres one Go submission
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2011-09-14T17:17:07  <mcstar> amstan: so is the launch really that close?
2011-09-14T17:17:21  <mcstar> did mcleo fix trueskill?
2011-09-14T17:17:36  <amstan> mcstar: https://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge/issues?sort=created&direction=desc&state=open&page=1&milestone=3
2011-09-14T17:17:40  <amstan> one issue left
2011-09-14T17:17:42  <amstan> apparently
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2011-09-14T17:18:27  <mcstar> that can be done in between
2011-09-14T17:18:30  <Zannick> wow
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2011-09-14T17:19:20  <mcstar> im just disappointed, i wanted to climb back to the 39th place
2011-09-14T17:19:36  <mcstar> my old bot however has the same code, that my new had before this latest submission
2011-09-14T17:19:43  <mcstar> and it was ranked much lower
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2011-09-14T17:19:59  <mcstar> +15 places
2011-09-14T17:20:34  <amstan> mcstar: i can reenable them if you want
2011-09-14T17:20:42  <mcstar> so the two bots(same code) didnt equalize after ~120 games
2011-09-14T17:21:03  <mcstar> amstan: im sure there will be others complaining too
2011-09-14T17:21:20  <mcstar> i dont want to get in trouble with mcleo, but if you dont mind...
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2011-09-14T17:21:31  <mcstar> want you to*
2011-09-14T17:21:43  <amstan> i don't really want to if mcleopold has a plan
2011-09-14T17:21:48  <mcstar> ok
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2011-09-14T17:26:31  <CIA-24> aichallenge: Alexandru Stan epsilon * r160b68e / website/profile.php : Removed some 2nd person pronouns from profile.php - http://git.io/XlO2tA
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2011-09-14T17:44:18  <mcstar> amstan: why did they ask for money?
2011-09-14T17:46:14  <amstan> mcstar: well, they wouldn't "fix" my computer for free
2011-09-14T17:46:16  <amstan> lol
2011-09-14T17:48:25  <mcstar> hm, but they failed to deceive you the first time
2011-09-14T17:48:34  <mcstar> i just dont understand why did they call again
2011-09-14T17:48:45  <mcstar> call you*
2011-09-14T17:49:40  <mcstar> scams are funny, recentlyi discovered scamorama.com
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2011-09-14T17:55:38  <mcstar> btw i almost crapped myself today
2011-09-14T17:56:21  <mcstar> i was checking my account balance online
2011-09-14T17:56:33  <mcstar> and the site was really crappy slow
2011-09-14T17:57:02  <mcstar> i went to the local store, to buy some, and the system denied my visa electron
2011-09-14T17:57:24  <mcstar> i thought the system is under stress or something
2011-09-14T17:57:35  <mcstar> i went home, checked the e-bank again
2011-09-14T17:57:41  <mcstar> and i couldnt log in!
2011-09-14T17:57:57  <mcstar> i thought wtf something fishy is going on
2011-09-14T17:59:02  <mcstar> i tried to call the hot-line, the machine said they are having technical troubles, and that no personnel is available right now
2011-09-14T17:59:25  <mcstar> so i was nervous that somebody might steal my money
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2011-09-14T18:02:34  <McLeopold> amstan: btw, I closed submissions
2011-09-14T18:02:48  <McLeopold> except we may need to test to go bot still
2011-09-14T18:04:06  <mcstar> McLeopold: i didnt get your email about closing the submissions
2011-09-14T18:05:07  <McLeopold> mcstar: didn't send one
2011-09-14T18:05:27  <mcstar> :)
2011-09-14T18:05:38  <McLeopold> >:D
2011-09-14T18:05:58  <McLeopold> I figure I need to scare the beta testers just before launch
2011-09-14T18:06:02  <mcstar> i just recently told amstan my experience that you closed it
2011-09-14T18:06:11  <McLeopold> the calm before the launch storm
2011-09-14T18:06:36  <mcstar> have you ever seen the rain coming down on a sunny day....
2011-09-14T18:07:08  <mcstar> good luck with the fix-ups
2011-09-14T18:07:50  <McLeopold> I live in the Puget Sound, so I see that everyday.
2011-09-14T18:08:15  <mcstar> McLeopold: you know that old song do you?(credence clearwater)
2011-09-14T18:08:37  <mcstar> dont you*
2011-09-14T18:08:48  <McLeopold> no, I missed that
2011-09-14T18:09:44  <mcstar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS9_ipu9GKw
2011-09-14T18:09:48  <mcstar> its a good song
2011-09-14T18:09:54  <McLeopold> jnwhiteh: It looks like the SplitN is your bot issue.  I'm trying to think how I can get the useful compiler output to you.
2011-09-14T18:11:09  <mcstar> McLeopold: i didnt know that sound can be a "seaway" too
2011-09-14T18:13:40  <amstan> McLeopold: i guess i should post on the mailing list and the forums about it
2011-09-14T18:13:55  <McLeopold> about what?
2011-09-14T18:14:46  <amstan> McLeopold: the closing of the submissions
2011-09-14T18:15:09  <McLeopold> I wouldn't think so.  We are at a stage where we don't need beta testers.  That's it.
2011-09-14T18:15:19  <amstan> ic
2011-09-14T18:15:20  <amstan> ok
2011-09-14T18:15:30  <McLeopold> I don't want to screw up the big reddit anouncement
2011-09-14T18:15:38  <amstan> shotgun?
2011-09-14T18:15:49  <McLeopold> @roulette
2011-09-14T18:15:49  <contestbot> McLeopold: *click*
2011-09-14T18:16:05  <amstan> i wanna post it, i missed it last contest
2011-09-14T18:16:11  <McLeopold> post what?
2011-09-14T18:16:15  <amstan> the reddit post
2011-09-14T18:16:20  <McLeopold> like, you want to be the person to post it?
2011-09-14T18:16:23  <amstan> yes
2011-09-14T18:16:35  <McLeopold> ok
2011-09-14T18:16:38  <McLeopold> I don't use reddit
2011-09-14T18:16:46  <amstan> oh, ok
2011-09-14T18:17:01  <McLeopold> they have a cute logo, kinda like the neatoramabot
2011-09-14T18:17:50  <McLeopold> we should coordinate the posts at once.  reddit, digg, hacker news
2011-09-14T18:18:00  <amstan> sure
2011-09-14T18:18:24  <mcstar> ill post one to Csévharaszti Hírharang, just to be sure
2011-09-14T18:18:31  <McLeopold> but not now
2011-09-14T18:22:55  <jnwhiteh> McLeopold: then the sample project is wrong, that's an easy fix.. but I *did* upload a version with the int64/Split change and got the same output
2011-09-14T18:24:00  <McLeopold> jnwhiteh: okay, I'm working on better output now
2011-09-14T18:24:06  <jnwhiteh> thank you!
2011-09-14T18:32:27  <antimatroid> are we launching?
2011-09-14T18:32:48  <antimatroid> McLeopold: don't forget to use my maps once we launch :)
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2011-09-14T18:36:43  <McLeopold> antimatroid: geeze, I forgot about that
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2011-09-14T18:36:53  <McLeopold> we can launch until daily map generation is working
2011-09-14T18:37:23  <antimatroid> can't*?
2011-09-14T18:38:45  <antimatroid> we also need to pick a length, I know I said 2 months previously but with the amount of time beta testers have had i'd be somewhat inclined to go back to 3 months again
2011-09-14T18:39:01  <antimatroid> regardless if we're launching soonish I wont have time to compete
2011-09-14T18:39:40  <antimatroid> (which I mean as a good thing I think)
2011-09-14T18:41:40  <McLeopold> I'm not picking a length, I'll let jeff do that
2011-09-14T18:41:56  <McLeopold> jnwhiteh: ./__MACOSX/._main.go:1: illegal character 0x0
2011-09-14T18:42:16  <McLeopold> janzert: the go compiler outputs errors to stdout rather than stderr
2011-09-14T18:42:40  <McLeopold> so we need a way to detect success other than nothing on stderr
2011-09-14T18:42:57  <McLeopold> maybe a very glob list or something?
2011-09-14T18:43:00  <McLeopold> verify
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2011-09-14T19:05:25  <McLeopold> hello sigh
2011-09-14T19:05:32  <sigh> hello
2011-09-14T19:06:36  <sigh> I have to leave for work, can't stick around :P
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2011-09-14T19:07:35  <McLeopold> I think he only does that when I want to chat...
2011-09-14T19:10:09  <CIA-24> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * r54b347a / worker/compiler.py : add glob verifier to ExternalCompiler to capture stdout for golang - http://git.io/3_iRQA
2011-09-14T19:10:10  <CIA-24> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * rf271c6a / website/profile.php : Merge branch 'epsilon' of https://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge into epsilon - http://git.io/ysDDIQ
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2011-09-14T19:24:19  <CIA-24> aichallenge: McLeopold epsilon * r601d273 / worker/compiler.py : fix vglob, better stdout capture - http://git.io/9kKplQ
2011-09-14T19:26:20  <McLeopold> @later tell janzert I've modified _run_cmd to capture stdout and ExternalCompiler to allow for verification of files, all for the sake of better error messages for golang.  Can you check the code?
2011-09-14T19:26:20  <contestbot> McLeopold: Job's done.
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2011-09-14T22:34:23  <zygon04> Submissions closed for the beta ants?
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