2011-10-04T00:01:03 I've got some mods to the common lisp starter pack; should I submit them via a pull request on github? 2011-10-04T00:02:55 spacebat_: that is best yes 2011-10-04T00:12:57 *** dvladim has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T00:20:27 *** dvladim has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-04T00:23:39 aichallenge: janzert epsilon * rb68ac9d / website/game_list.php : Only add last game if there is one - http://git.io/fpA_IA 2011-10-04T00:25:43 contestbot: later tell McLeopold feel free to revert the game_list change if you see that it breaks something, it definitely fixes several undefined variable errors in the case of a list that doesn't have any games though. 2011-10-04T00:25:43 janzert: OK 2011-10-04T00:49:28 aichallenge: janzert epsilon * r3c2bf04 / worker/compiler.py : Add support for ExternalCompiler to check that input files create an output file - http://git.io/DvFxbQ 2011-10-04T00:53:05 *** RVeerdonk has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T00:57:31 Hi, I get compilation errors on the server that I do not see locally nor with earlier versions; did something change today? 2011-10-04T01:09:36 *** Blkt has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-10-04T01:11:26 Sorry for the noise, the server-side compilation issue appears to be filename capitalization sensitivity on my side 2011-10-04T01:12:36 Yep, it's working now 2011-10-04T01:12:44 *** RVeerdonk has left #aichallenge 2011-10-04T01:13:51 I was just wondering what the rules are about razing; the docs are vague on this point, and is there an event for a razed nest like there is for dead ants? 2011-10-04T01:14:09 razed hill I mean 2011-10-04T01:23:32 *** okay| is now known as okayzed 2011-10-04T01:29:22 *** Palmik has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T01:34:20 spacebat_: if an enemy is located on a hill after battle resolution has been resolved then the hill is razed 2011-10-04T01:34:33 (i think that's right) 2011-10-04T01:35:32 *** mleise has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T01:39:53 *** kaemo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2011-10-04T01:47:28 *** dr- has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2011-10-04T01:48:29 *** k333es has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T01:54:18 aichallenge: janzert epsilon * r5bcf354 / (website/game_list.php website/nice.php website/sql.php): Add game end reason to game list - http://git.io/SynkEA 2011-10-04T02:01:26 aichallenge: janzert epsilon * rb8f095b / (website/game_list.php website/nice.php): Fix end reason display - http://git.io/HrZDZA 2011-10-04T02:02:32 *** medrimonia has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T02:02:41 Hi everybody 2011-10-04T02:07:53 *** _flag <_flag!~flag@69-165-173-172.dsl.teksavvy.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-04T02:10:46 spacebat_: I could probably answer your questions about hill razing. What is unclear? 2011-10-04T02:12:00 *** amstan_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2011-10-04T02:13:52 aichallenge: janzert epsilon * rc49da4d / website/header.php : Update contest season - http://git.io/GI6MHQ 2011-10-04T02:14:31 *** sir_macelon has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T02:24:13 *** olexs has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T02:29:09 *** ltriant has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep) 2011-10-04T02:54:09 *** ibdknox has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-10-04T02:54:40 *** ibdknox has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T02:58:56 *** ibdknox has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2011-10-04T03:01:13 *** onensora has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T03:03:11 *** olexs has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2011-10-04T03:03:44 *** aarossig has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2011-10-04T03:04:35 *** aarossig has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T03:11:54 *** aarossig has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2011-10-04T03:24:18 *** boegel has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T03:25:39 *** aerique has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T03:28:46 *** Palmik has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-10-04T03:29:41 *** Blkt has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T03:39:53 *** aarossig has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T03:41:23 good morning everyone 2011-10-04T03:51:43 *** mceier has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T04:00:43 *** xathis has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T04:24:10 *** berak has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T04:30:22 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T04:58:30 *** ChrisH has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2011-10-04T05:06:00 *** sir_macelon has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-04T05:22:59 contestbot: later tell mleise seems this game breaks the visualizer http://antsbeta.janzert.com/visualizer.php?game=11806 2011-10-04T05:22:59 janzert: As you wish. 2011-10-04T05:24:13 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T05:30:41 *** onensora has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2011-10-04T05:34:07 *** onensora has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T06:07:57 *** RenderMonkey has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T06:14:30 *** smiley1983 has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T06:15:28 aichallenge: Marco Leise epsilon * rb3376d8 / (2 files): 2011-10-04T06:15:28 aichallenge: fixed: game #11806 crashes, because the replay duration got overridden instead of taking the maximum of all variables that implicitly set the replay duration 2011-10-04T06:15:28 aichallenge: added: cutoff is displayed during the last turn of the replay - http://git.io/-oo0nQ 2011-10-04T06:16:17 janzert: Thank you! I finally cannot forward a bug to McLeopold. ;) 2011-10-04T06:30:00 *** RenderMonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-04T06:55:28 *** olexs has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T06:57:39 hm, looks like i don't really have to change anything to the CL starter bot 2011-10-04T07:02:50 *** john___ has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T07:04:40 i didnt change anything to my bot either, one thing i noticed is that it crashed and timed out, it didnt before for a long time 2011-10-04T07:06:21 mcstar: what language are you currently writing your bot in? 2011-10-04T07:06:41 the one i have is in cl 2011-10-04T07:06:58 im just theorizing writing the next one in clojure 2011-10-04T07:07:11 (im quite busy, didnt start to actually write it) 2011-10-04T07:07:42 i haven't been doing anything with the aichallenge for weeks or months now :) 2011-10-04T07:08:58 for the moment im writing in c and python/numpy, just some data analysis, when this project is over ill start my new bot 2011-10-04T07:09:27 what version of ubuntu will the official server be running? 2011-10-04T07:09:46 ah, nevermind 2011-10-04T07:10:06 i dont KNOW, but i guess the latest one, that is stable 2011-10-04T07:10:15 is there a new one? 2011-10-04T07:10:23 i not following ubuntu 2011-10-04T07:10:38 i don't know, i'm just culling the README.md for the CL bot 2011-10-04T07:10:56 dont mention version numbers 2011-10-04T07:11:07 theres a wiki page that has it, or maybe its on the main site 2011-10-04T07:11:11 yeah 2011-10-04T07:11:22 i think its not up to date though 2011-10-04T07:11:45 *** boegel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2011-10-04T07:11:55 http://aichallengebeta.hypertriangle.com/starter_packages.php 2011-10-04T07:12:00 this is what i had in mind 2011-10-04T07:12:09 its weird that python is listed as 2.5 2011-10-04T07:12:47 and sbcl is more recent than .40 even on ubuntu 2011-10-04T07:13:17 it's old 2011-10-04T07:16:01 aichallenge: aerique epsilon * rb2588ad / ants/dist/starter_bots/common_lisp/README.md : Remove unneeded info from CL README. - http://git.io/SVmPEQ 2011-10-04T07:25:40 install.md says Ubuntu 11.04, probably correct because it's also the one offered by the Ubuntu front page 2011-10-04T07:27:38 thats natty i think, but aerique is interested what will be used when the contest actually goes live 2011-10-04T07:27:42 thats how i understood it 2011-10-04T07:27:55 smiley1983: care to answer unclevasyas question? 2011-10-04T07:28:19 *** olexs has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2011-10-04T07:28:59 er... which one? I must have missed it 2011-10-04T07:29:29 he asked what you doing when not working on ants 2011-10-04T07:29:29 unless it was the one about the game in which my program committed suicide very early 2011-10-04T07:29:50 Oh, I must apologise when I next see him 2011-10-04T07:30:03 you sort of didnt answer so i deduced you dont do anything else 2011-10-04T07:30:14 I have the bad habit of walking away from the keyboard and not coming back for hours (or days) 2011-10-04T07:30:22 :) 2011-10-04T07:30:27 He isn't here now, though, so I can't answer him 2011-10-04T07:30:33 ok 2011-10-04T07:31:22 *** GeorgeSebastian has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2011-10-04T07:31:33 I'm not sure how much work I'll be able to put into Ants, though, I've got a few things competing for my attention 2011-10-04T07:32:04 my plans have completely changed, so only a fraction of the code I've written will be directly useful 2011-10-04T07:32:23 so I have a lot of work to do just to implement my current basic framework as I see it in my head 2011-10-04T07:37:29 good for you 2011-10-04T07:38:04 its quite misty in my mind where i think about Ants 2011-10-04T07:39:01 I don't know if the new plan will work, of course 2011-10-04T07:39:25 id like to get my new framework(not sure the first one was a framework) right for the first time 2011-10-04T07:39:36 this may not be plausible though 2011-10-04T07:40:23 and to learn another language again, that is quite demanding too 2011-10-04T07:41:01 but its still better than the alternative, for example i could not picture myself writing this bot in C 2011-10-04T07:41:16 or python 2011-10-04T07:41:21 *** Acre-- has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T07:41:30 it would quickly become very messy 2011-10-04T07:41:39 but i think this only reflects my incompetence 2011-10-04T07:43:41 *** Acre-- has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2011-10-04T07:49:45 which language are you using? 2011-10-04T07:50:53 bash 2011-10-04T07:51:50 im joking, common lisp 2011-10-04T07:57:30 ah, one of the ones I intend to learn :) eventually... 2011-10-04T08:01:10 i can only recommend it 2011-10-04T08:04:33 smiley1983: maybe youre interested in these videos then http://aerique.blogspot.com/2011/07/common-lisp-proxy-bot-videos-for-google.html 2011-10-04T08:12:57 *** eashoka has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T08:21:48 *** john___ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-04T08:46:40 *** patrisk has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T08:53:00 *** xathis_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T08:55:43 *** xathis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2011-10-04T09:03:32 *** boegel has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T09:18:15 *** Torquemada has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T09:23:49 *** patrisk has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-10-04T09:25:53 *** AGrishchenko has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T09:27:53 *** AGrishchenko has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2011-10-04T09:34:48 Hi guys. When you've registered did you have any email notifications? 2011-10-04T09:39:19 yes 2011-10-04T09:39:44 but its not transferrable, i cant give mine to you 2011-10-04T09:39:46 They came immediatly? 2011-10-04T09:39:53 yes 2011-10-04T09:39:55 sort of 2011-10-04T09:40:05 it was below my reaction time 2011-10-04T09:40:42 I still get no notification on my mail and isn't able to come to the site. 2011-10-04T09:41:11 you mean you cant log in 2011-10-04T09:42:13 Yeah. 2011-10-04T09:42:35 the mail comes from the address janzert@janzert.com 2011-10-04T09:44:03 *** boegel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2011-10-04T09:55:50 *** GeorgeSebastian has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T10:02:26 *** nux67 has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T10:03:44 *** k333es has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-04T10:15:30 *** foRei has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T10:18:44 *** aerique has quit IRC (Quit: ...) 2011-10-04T10:26:54 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-10-04T10:32:17 I haven't any emails from this adress: janzert@janzert.com 2011-10-04T10:33:11 I hope there are no problem with registering using mail box on gmail.com ? 2011-10-04T10:33:59 they usually say that you should check your spam folder 2011-10-04T10:34:01 did you? 2011-10-04T10:35:40 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T10:36:52 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-10-04T10:43:34 Of course, I checked all the folders incuding spam and bulk. 2011-10-04T10:55:35 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T10:55:35 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2011-10-04T10:56:12 *** GeorgeSebastian has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-10-04T11:04:04 *** onensora has quit IRC () 2011-10-04T11:16:15 *** UncleVasya has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T11:20:37 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2011-10-04T11:20:40 *** |UncleVasya| <|UncleVasya|!kvirc@178-133-131-111.dialup.umc.net.ua> has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T11:26:27 |UncleVasya|: Hi, I think you asked a question yesterday after I'd gone away from the keyboard 2011-10-04T11:26:42 about what I do when I'm not doing AI challenge (mcstar told me) 2011-10-04T11:27:14 <|UncleVasya|> Hi. Yes. 2011-10-04T11:27:54 I have some other programming projects, and I think meditation is good. For money I move crates around in the supermarket 2011-10-04T11:27:58 How about you? 2011-10-04T11:29:48 <|UncleVasya|> In this year I've graduated from my technical school and came to the institute as a 2nd-year student. 2011-10-04T11:30:23 <|UncleVasya|> No serious programming except ants (ever). 2011-10-04T11:30:56 you seem to have some ability then :) 2011-10-04T11:30:58 it begs the question why ocaml? 2011-10-04T11:31:45 <|UncleVasya|> But in this year my new teacher wants to send me to the ACM so I have to solve these small problems a lot to gain some experience. 2011-10-04T11:34:02 <|UncleVasya|> smiley1983: Do you want to get some 'computer' job in future? 2011-10-04T11:34:33 <|UncleVasya|> It's not an offer, just interest :D 2011-10-04T11:35:45 Not exactly. Some of my current projects have some chance of (small) financial return. If I can one day get enough money from personal projects to quit the day job, I might do it or might not. 2011-10-04T11:35:58 I don't want to be employed to do programming for someone else, though 2011-10-04T11:37:03 <|UncleVasya|> mcstar: Sometimes I read a blog of one programmer and he wrote some tasty posts about functional style. 2011-10-04T11:37:25 *** mceier has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2011-10-04T11:37:35 *** mceier has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T11:37:37 <|UncleVasya|> mcstar: In PW I used c++, next time I think it will be Python. 2011-10-04T11:37:42 that doesnt explain it, why not haskell then? 2011-10-04T11:38:06 I think I persuaded him that OCaml is a good introduction to functional programming 2011-10-04T11:38:26 because it lets you do procedural and OO stuff when you want to as well 2011-10-04T11:38:36 <|UncleVasya|> yep :) And Haskell was too obvious. 2011-10-04T11:38:45 how so? 2011-10-04T11:39:25 Haskell is on my to-learn list. Right after common lisp :) 2011-10-04T11:40:02 <|UncleVasya|> I came here with question about F# support because it seems to be promotable by MS and perspective. Smiley said that OCaml and F# are very similar. 2011-10-04T11:40:39 you wrote "Haskell was too obvious." 2011-10-04T11:40:51 why do you mean by that? i dont understand it in this context 2011-10-04T11:41:05 why->what 2011-10-04T11:42:04 <|UncleVasya|> mcstar: To me 'too obvious' means 'there are already several guys who use it'. I have found it's funny to come with something unexpectable and force my friend to tell 'wow!'. 2011-10-04T11:42:27 haskell is anything but obvious 2011-10-04T11:42:45 you mean its too common then 2011-10-04T11:42:50 than* 2011-10-04T11:43:03 <|UncleVasya|> ok, here is one moreexplanation for 'obvious': 2011-10-04T11:43:47 |UncleVasya|: you wanted to impress insanemalakvian? :) 2011-10-04T11:43:57 <|UncleVasya|> I already knew the name 'Haskell'. I have met it from time to time on the internet. OCaml was something totally new. 2011-10-04T11:44:03 <|UncleVasya|> yep :) 2011-10-04T11:45:05 <|UncleVasya|> Also I have tried to look at the McLeopold's lolcode starter pack but no way I can write something that looks like bot on it. 2011-10-04T11:45:33 its foolish to try to use lolcode 2011-10-04T11:45:39 i dont think its even funny 2011-10-04T11:46:01 i mean lolcode IS funny, but to write a whole, good bot in it, is insane 2011-10-04T11:46:18 i was contemplating to use bash 2011-10-04T11:46:42 but i relaized that bash's power comes from mainly its ability to interface small standalone programs 2011-10-04T11:47:07 and theres the restriction of using only 1 thread, so that idea went down the drain 2011-10-04T11:47:37 <|UncleVasya|> [18:48:22] i mean lolcode IS funny, but to write a whole, good bot in it, is insane 2011-10-04T11:47:41 <|UncleVasya|> It's because you do not want to impress someone :D 2011-10-04T11:48:25 whatever language you write your bot in, many people will be impressed 2011-10-04T11:48:28 sorry 2011-10-04T11:48:33 ifyou win of course, i mean 2011-10-04T11:48:40 <|UncleVasya|> mcstar: Did you already wrote something playable? 2011-10-04T11:48:50 what do you mean? 2011-10-04T11:48:59 like a game? 2011-10-04T11:49:11 <|UncleVasya|> A bot in the secret room. 2011-10-04T11:49:30 you lost me 2011-10-04T11:49:34 what secret room? 2011-10-04T11:51:32 <|UncleVasya|> I mean that maybe you already have a very strong ant-bot but it's time to get into fight isn't came yet. He is in ome secret place (so no one can know you have it) and waiting for its time. 2011-10-04T11:51:49 <|UncleVasya|> *its time to get into fight 2011-10-04T11:52:07 <|UncleVasya|> *some secret place 2011-10-04T11:52:15 i see 2011-10-04T11:52:33 yes, there is one, but i lost the key to that room unfortunately 2011-10-04T11:52:52 so you have to take my word that it existed, and would have beaten all other bots 2011-10-04T11:53:22 <|UncleVasya|> oh, when I try to write long messages I must to make hundrets of corrections afterward :) 2011-10-04T11:53:40 humans do err 2011-10-04T11:53:59 <|UncleVasya|> * must make? 2011-10-04T11:54:00 (that is a correct sentence, if youre wondering) 2011-10-04T11:54:19 yes, must make 2011-10-04T11:54:21 no to 2011-10-04T11:54:37 hundreds* 2011-10-04T11:54:47 and i believe its afterwards 2011-10-04T11:54:55 *** Blkt has quit IRC (Quit: going home...) 2011-10-04T11:55:02 when im writing long messages 2011-10-04T11:55:23 i didnt want to correct you, you brought it up :) 2011-10-04T11:55:33 I think afterward/afterwards are both correct 2011-10-04T11:55:50 <|UncleVasya|> And now it's time for me to make something that looks like battle resolution. 2011-10-04T11:56:10 smiley1983: its a repeated action, i think afterwards is better, but im not a native speaker 2011-10-04T11:56:51 You 2011-10-04T11:56:55 <|UncleVasya|> smiley1983: You are studying in university now, right? 2011-10-04T11:57:02 're right, afterwards is better 2011-10-04T11:57:20 |UncleVasya|: no, I've never been to university 2011-10-04T11:58:03 <|UncleVasya|> hmm, I believed you are. 2011-10-04T11:59:25 |UncleVasya|: just one suggestion: try something other than python next time, i encourage you to try clojure 2011-10-04T12:00:27 I wrote something in Python with tkinter recently. It was awful. The function called by button presses couldn't accept any arguments, meaning everything had to be done by side effects. Blech. 2011-10-04T12:01:39 <|UncleVasya|> I think about python because it is time for me to learn something that can help me make money. I doubt I'll found clojure-related work in my region or via internet. 2011-10-04T12:02:04 it's true that there seem to be employment opportunities for Python programmers 2011-10-04T12:04:29 <|UncleVasya|> I have a question about OCaml. But it's hard to formulete. Are you ready? 2011-10-04T12:04:44 sure 2011-10-04T12:05:37 <|UncleVasya|> There is a lot of recursion, a lot of function calls. 2011-10-04T12:05:53 yes 2011-10-04T12:05:55 <|UncleVasya|> I want to interrupt them all in one time from one place. 2011-10-04T12:05:56 |UncleVasya|: clojure is tied to the jvm, and can use java frameworks, and java is The Business language 2011-10-04T12:06:15 he wants a timer 2011-10-04T12:06:28 <|UncleVasya|> No. 2011-10-04T12:06:38 :) 2011-10-04T12:06:58 <|UncleVasya|> Real example: 2011-10-04T12:09:10 <|UncleVasya|> To IssueOrder function I come from many other places. Food gatheing, exploration etc. But when the number of issued orders become the number of all my ants, I can finish turn in this moment. 2011-10-04T12:09:42 *** onensora has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T12:10:19 <|UncleVasya|> I can check this condition in every part of my bot. But it's a lot of places. 2011-10-04T12:10:51 <|UncleVasya|> I hope to insert this condition only in the IssueOrder function. 2011-10-04T12:11:51 After IssueOrder prints the order (assuming that's what it's doing), it can do something like "raise Not_found" 2011-10-04T12:11:55 sorry 2011-10-04T12:11:57 just wait 2011-10-04T12:12:04 <|UncleVasya|> And if it's true just interrupt all and do not come back to the food gathering, exploration etc 2011-10-04T12:12:07 it can check if the condition is met, and if so, raise Not_found 2011-10-04T12:13:00 Whatever the exception is, it has to be something which isn't caught at lower levels - something special which only gets caught near the toplevel, where it can say "we just issued our last order, finish turn" 2011-10-04T12:13:43 so at that point you have something like "try do_turn with Not_found -> finish_turn ()" 2011-10-04T12:14:29 The exception might not be Not_found, though, since you might have handlers for that all over the place (maybe) 2011-10-04T12:14:37 if so, you can do something like 2011-10-04T12:14:53 raise Failure "FinishedTurn" 2011-10-04T12:15:01 does this make sense? 2011-10-04T12:15:51 <|UncleVasya|> Thanks. Is my idea ok or this way of programming kind of rude and negligent? 2011-10-04T12:16:21 it's entirely proper to jump out of a search when you have found your target 2011-10-04T12:16:33 In OCaml, the correct way to do this is through exceptions 2011-10-04T12:16:43 so no, this is not negligent, it's efficient :) 2011-10-04T12:18:15 <|UncleVasya|> Currently I'm jumping out with giving a function special value. I'll try to deal with exception. 2011-10-04T12:20:52 *** nux67 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-04T12:22:37 *** |UncleVasya| <|UncleVasya|!kvirc@178-133-131-111.dialup.umc.net.ua> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2011-10-04T12:30:32 http://pastebin.com/1CdxWYMu <- ocaml exception example 2011-10-04T12:36:58 *** GarySWest has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T12:38:31 *** UncleVasya has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T12:39:45 http://pastebin.com/1CdxWYMu <- ocaml exception example 2011-10-04T12:39:49 UncleVasya: ^ 2011-10-04T12:42:08 You are the best starter pack maker! :* :D 2011-10-04T12:42:31 haha, thankyou :) 2011-10-04T12:45:35 Defining a new exception (like Finished) guarantees that it won't conflict with any error-exception handlers you might need 2011-10-04T12:45:58 *** dvladim has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T12:46:37 *** smiley1983 has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2011-10-04T12:50:12 *** GarySWest has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-04T12:58:08 mcstar: brackets, brackets: http://pastebin.com/4JsLRzFF 2011-10-04T12:59:39 gstate.tmap.(count_row).(count_col).content 2011-10-04T12:59:44 what is this? 2011-10-04T12:59:57 and you probably mean parantheses 2011-10-04T12:59:59 *** okayzed is now known as okay| 2011-10-04T13:00:13 parentheses* 2011-10-04T13:02:21 now i know where mathematica comments come from 2011-10-04T13:02:27 (*comment*) 2011-10-04T13:02:40 *** Torquemada has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-04T13:03:24 *** eashoka has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-04T13:03:29 UncleVasya: can you explain that line? 2011-10-04T13:03:45 gstate --> represents game state; tmap ---> represents map; count_row and current_col ---> x and y; content ---> water, land etc 2011-10-04T13:04:02 why the parens? 2011-10-04T13:04:10 around count_row 2011-10-04T13:04:50 (im not interested in what the variables represent, im interested in the syntax) 2011-10-04T13:04:58 I don't konw exactly. They where in the starter bot and without them it's not works. 2011-10-04T13:05:13 sorry, but i have to LOL at that 2011-10-04T13:05:54 gstate.tmap.(fst loc_e).(snd loc_e).seen 2011-10-04T13:06:02 seems like a fuction call 2011-10-04T13:06:10 is . like a pipe operator? 2011-10-04T13:06:35 so its actually not for accessing a member of a class, but just piping calls together 2011-10-04T13:06:43 *** kaemo has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T13:06:47 a variable being a function that returns itself 2011-10-04T13:06:57 loc_e is a pare: (row,col) fst means first value, snd - second one. 2011-10-04T13:07:04 pair 2011-10-04T13:07:12 i know that 2011-10-04T13:07:18 i guessed i mean 2011-10-04T13:07:39 tmap is an array of (int, int) 2011-10-04T13:07:40 but the whole line doesnt make sense to me 2011-10-04T13:07:56 ok so its 2 dimensional 2011-10-04T13:08:04 (fst loc_e) gives you a vector 2011-10-04T13:08:30 UncleVasya: am i correct about the .? 2011-10-04T13:08:41 or does it work in another way? 2011-10-04T13:09:06 no, (fst loc_e) gives me a row. I think tmap.(fst loc_e) gives a vector. 2011-10-04T13:09:18 a row is a vector 2011-10-04T13:09:23 a row-vector 2011-10-04T13:09:29 By 'row' I mean just a number of row 2011-10-04T13:09:31 *** illeg has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T13:09:39 index you mean 2011-10-04T13:09:44 row-index 2011-10-04T13:10:07 ok i get it 2011-10-04T13:10:23 so a.1.2.field 2011-10-04T13:10:28 (fst (4, 2) ) is 4 and (snd (4,2)) is 2. 2011-10-04T13:10:48 is to access a 2d array's (1,2) position and reading its field variable 2011-10-04T13:10:54 tmap.(2) ives a vector. 2011-10-04T13:12:33 so you 2011-10-04T13:12:43 need () for function calls beyond the first position? 2011-10-04T13:12:49 like this: 2011-10-04T13:13:13 function1 (function2 arg1) (function2 arg2) 2011-10-04T13:13:30 that gives 2 arguments to function1 2011-10-04T13:13:48 func1 (func2 arg1 arg2) 2011-10-04T13:13:58 why? 2011-10-04T13:14:04 thats different 2011-10-04T13:14:19 function2 is of arity 1 2011-10-04T13:14:19 func1 (func2 arg1 arg2) arg2 arg3 (func3 arg1) 2011-10-04T13:14:32 ok 2011-10-04T13:14:38 so can i put .'s there? 2011-10-04T13:14:51 chaining them together? 2011-10-04T13:15:00 anyway is this ocaml language dynamic or static? 2011-10-04T13:15:07 is it compiled? 2011-10-04T13:15:28 don't know. I'm accessing object's fields with point 2011-10-04T13:15:56 *** olexs has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T13:17:14 gstate.tmap is what then? 2011-10-04T13:18:25 gstate is a variable of type game_state. game_state has field tmap 2011-10-04T13:18:25 wikipedia tells me ocaml is quite a powerful language 2011-10-04T13:18:43 "I'm accessing object's fields with point" 2011-10-04T13:18:55 this is exactly what you are doing then isnt it? 2011-10-04T13:19:03 shit 2011-10-04T13:19:05 sorry 2011-10-04T13:19:30 i read that line 3times at least, and i read like this: I'm not accessing... 2011-10-04T13:19:50 heheh 2011-10-04T13:24:32 *** Torquemada has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T13:25:46 Torquemada: Hi. Have I already said 'thank you' for your PW-bot executable? 2011-10-04T13:26:34 I did testing against your bot. 2011-10-04T13:26:51 When? 2011-10-04T13:27:58 Last november. 2011-10-04T13:28:07 *** ChrisH has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T13:28:33 I think I have found it on sdchess.net 2011-10-04T13:29:30 You have the same nick? Yeah it might be sdchess.net 2011-10-04T13:31:22 *** ChrisH has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2011-10-04T13:31:49 yep, I remember we met few (or even several) times during final stage. 2011-10-04T13:32:40 I have Torquemada 3.exe in pw folder. 2011-10-04T13:34:04 May be, I don't remember exactly, but we have to met with each other in top 200 more than one time. 2011-10-04T13:35:06 I've got 310th place. 2011-10-04T13:35:13 Torquemada3 wasn'r the last version. And there were another good bots for testing )) 2011-10-04T13:37:43 yes, I have a collection. Hazard was my main opponent, but sometimes I played vs another bots. 2011-10-04T13:38:02 So... you came here with some questions about Ants? 2011-10-04T13:38:19 I can answer the first one: nobody knows :) 2011-10-04T13:38:51 *** illeg has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2011-10-04T13:39:27 Yeah, Hazard was good. And was 277 so nothing strange that we've played many games )) 2011-10-04T13:40:11 The main question - how to get notification about regustration on my mail? 2011-10-04T13:40:23 So you are actually in top300 :) 2011-10-04T13:40:54 Torquemada: you can try registering again, its still not "live" 2011-10-04T13:41:11 hm, I hadn't any problems with e-mail notification. 2011-10-04T13:41:14 if you really care about that particular registration ask janzert or mcleopold maybe 2011-10-04T13:41:15 I'll try. 2011-10-04T13:41:47 But I I'd like to do it with my old nick. 2011-10-04T13:42:04 Does it means you already have something for uploading? 2011-10-04T13:42:46 Nothing serious at this time. I've just started. 2011-10-04T13:43:11 Good luck! 2011-10-04T13:43:42 *** rofer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2011-10-04T13:44:30 Torquemada: my one is here: http://aichallengebeta.hypertriangle.com/profile.php?user=37 2011-10-04T13:45:12 Near the top 10, cool. 2011-10-04T13:46:14 It is beta now so there are only few serious bots. 2011-10-04T13:48:46 Are any info about start date? 2011-10-04T13:50:22 [20:40:33] I can answer the first one: nobody knows :) 2011-10-04T13:50:34 :)))) 2011-10-04T13:50:42 *** medrimonia has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-04T14:00:48 *** rofer has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T14:09:33 *** Palmik has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T14:20:45 *** ibdknox has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T14:23:26 Torquemada: you there? 2011-10-04T14:31:13 Yeah. 2011-10-04T14:33:55 Ya na sushe, ti na more - vse ne vstretimsya nikak. 2011-10-04T14:33:56 *** McLeopold has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-04T14:34:23 is your email start with firstname.lastname@gmail where firstname starts with a v and lastname starts with an m? 2011-10-04T14:35:13 Y. 2011-10-04T14:35:40 hmm, gmail bounced the confirmation email saying that it was an unknown address 2011-10-04T14:36:06 I'm on land, you're at sea - all can not meet. 2011-10-04T14:36:16 quote of the day 2011-10-04T14:37:05 Hmmm, with Planet Wars I used my yahoo.com box. I can try use it, but would prefer gmail.com, if possible. 2011-10-04T14:37:24 does that address look like it should have been correct? 2011-10-04T14:39:25 *** dvladim has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-10-04T14:39:27 janzert: is /query not safe to use? 2011-10-04T14:40:11 mcstar: hmm? 2011-10-04T14:40:26 May be I've mistaken in one letter, but how to check this? Is there a private chat? 2011-10-04T14:40:27 no less safe than any other IRC PM 2011-10-04T14:40:30 you could talk to him in private and you could paste the whole address 2011-10-04T14:40:41 mcstar: I did ;) 2011-10-04T14:40:45 ah ok 2011-10-04T14:40:54 Torquemada: I sent you a PM a little bit ago with the full address 2011-10-04T14:41:23 it may show up in a different tab or window depending on your client 2011-10-04T14:42:58 mcstar: why this is a quote of the day? 2011-10-04T14:43:47 its your quote 2011-10-04T14:43:50 you dont like it? 2011-10-04T14:45:12 I do, but why you like it so much? 2011-10-04T14:45:41 its poetic, and incorrect 2011-10-04T14:45:47 has a nice ring 2011-10-04T14:45:50 Maybe here were some other guys who couldn't meet? 2011-10-04T14:46:02 Torquemada: work ok this time? 2011-10-04T14:48:03 Everything works, thanks. 2011-10-04T14:48:54 Good bye everyone. 2011-10-04T14:48:56 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC () 2011-10-04T14:49:47 *** Torquemada has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2011-10-04T14:56:50 @later tell amstan I've updated the starter pack guide, can you check with the starter pack authors if they are done? 2011-10-04T14:56:50