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<_flag> Because I was about to win this game before it was called off: http://aichallengebeta.hypertriangle.com/visualizer.php?game=23635 2011-10-11T10:34:42 means that is says 2011-10-11T10:34:47 t->w 2011-10-11T10:36:35 its a bummer that you were 1 move away from razing that hill 2011-10-11T10:36:49 tough luck as they say 2011-10-11T10:38:50 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-10-11T10:39:23 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T10:41:34 *** GeorgeSebastian has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T10:43:25 *** sigh has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-10-11T10:48:52 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T10:49:19 *** boegel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-11T10:49:37 *** GeorgeSebastian has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2011-10-11T11:02:35 *** spacebat_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2011-10-11T11:03:40 *** onensora has quit IRC () 2011-10-11T11:06:27 *** spacebat has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T11:06:27 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2011-10-11T12:48:03 the .(parentheses) are for getting array elements, while the .tmap and .seen are for accessing fields in a type 2011-10-11T12:48:43 does it have to be all in one line? 2011-10-11T12:48:59 no, it's just shorter that way :) 2011-10-11T12:49:23 and using a,b,c,d .... for variable names is also shorter 2011-10-11T12:50:14 but this doesn't remove information like a,b,c,d, it just doesn't require you to use one line per access 2011-10-11T12:50:42 not really... you can do the same thing in java too.. that does not make it a good idea 2011-10-11T12:51:15 I mean its not like you need line breaks 2011-10-11T12:51:17 :D 2011-10-11T12:51:26 but we tend to use em 2011-10-11T12:51:36 I'm not saying everyone should do this... and if I intend to use an element several times, I'll give it its own line 2011-10-11T12:51:46 (python excluded ) 2011-10-11T12:52:26 but if I'm just accessing that one thing once locally, why add all those extra linebreaks? For me it just adds more stuff to read 2011-10-11T12:52:52 not just line breaks, but: 2011-10-11T12:52:56 which is not the limiting factor in any programming exercise 2011-10-11T12:53:00 let local_tmap = gstate.tmap in 2011-10-11T12:53:46 I'm not saying everyone should do this always 2011-10-11T12:53:57 but some situations benefit from one approach, some from another 2011-10-11T12:55:10 *** dvladim has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T13:06:46 *** stocha has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T13:08:37 i looked at some games. No more point for killing ants ?? 2011-10-11T13:08:57 i don't understand where this is heading. 2011-10-11T13:09:12 there is no description of the combat rule also. 2011-10-11T13:09:38 arguably the games are a litle bit more watchable. 2011-10-11T13:09:59 https://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge/wiki/Ants-Focus-Battle-Resolution 2011-10-11T13:10:00 is this still beta, or a started contest ? 2011-10-11T13:10:08 2 points for destroying enemy hills, and 1 for keeping your own 2011-10-11T13:10:27 beta, new rules introduced to reduce the advantage of beta testers 2011-10-11T13:10:39 I guess the new rules need beta testing too :) 2011-10-11T13:10:43 you need to change the fighting rule then. 2011-10-11T13:10:57 how so? 2011-10-11T13:10:59 because that's what the beta testers built. 2011-10-11T13:11:06 good fighting. 2011-10-11T13:11:22 unless the objective is not to reduce the advantage of beta testers. 2011-10-11T13:11:51 it's possible I misunderstood 2011-10-11T13:11:52 Arguably, it's not easy to find a fighting rule. 2011-10-11T13:12:10 indeed, since it took some time to expose the problem with the previous one 2011-10-11T13:12:36 I guess the thing is okay. But i'm really not appealled by the scoring system. 2011-10-11T13:12:41 most game are just random solved. 2011-10-11T13:12:46 because everyone has same score. 2011-10-11T13:13:13 at the moment, very few people are defending hills and only some are actively attacking 2011-10-11T13:14:23 huh 2011-10-11T13:15:23 diarrhea starting again 2011-10-11T13:15:25 damn it 2011-10-11T13:15:52 thats how you know im not a robot 2011-10-11T13:17:00 smiley1983: it looked like fst was a function, so () was needed to call it, with the input of the output of the last . piping its result to the next . 2011-10-11T13:17:12 but if its only for array indexing 2011-10-11T13:17:48 i probably should finish this sentence 2011-10-11T13:17:53 but im not going to 2011-10-11T13:19:07 ocaml doesn't require parentheses for function calls, only for grouping and some unusual things like array access 2011-10-11T13:19:14 *** jerede59 has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T13:21:14 in a sense you're right about the result of the last .access being accessible for the .next one in line 2011-10-11T13:32:24 *** stocha has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-11T13:34:57 *** okayzed is now known as okay 2011-10-11T13:38:38 *** smiley1983 has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2011-10-11T13:44:00 *** ibdknox has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-10-11T13:44:31 *** ibdknox has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T13:48:51 *** ibdknox has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2011-10-11T13:53:43 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2011-10-11T13:58:36 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T14:24:11 *** dvladim has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2011-10-11T14:24:50 *** Palmik has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T14:49:34 *** onensora has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T15:19:45 *** _flag <_flag!~flag@69-165-173-172.dsl.teksavvy.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2011-10-11T15:46:41 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2011-10-11T15:50:33 *** dvladim has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T16:00:25 *** g0llum has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2011-10-11T16:02:54 *** foRei has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2011-10-11T16:03:48 *** foRei has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T16:21:40 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T16:25:52 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T16:25:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2011-10-11T16:28:01 *** delt0r_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2011-10-11T16:32:28 *** dvladim has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2011-10-11T16:40:03 *** delt0r_ has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T16:57:14 *** cichociemno has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T16:58:44 *** ltriant has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T16:59:18 *** cichociemno has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2011-10-11T17:09:07 *** Palmik has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2011-10-11T17:19:58 *** Kingpin13 has quit IRC (Quit: quit) 2011-10-11T17:22:43 *** dlila has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T17:26:31 *** foRei has quit IRC (Quit: Bye) 2011-10-11T17:29:41 *** olexs1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2011-10-11T17:47:39 I am about to have that meeting with Google folks. 2011-10-11T17:48:36 The agenda is basically this: (1) can we use the name Google AI Challenge, (2) can we have $2000 or possible more to cover the cost of renting servers, (3) discussing the future of the contest and its relationship with Google. 2011-10-11T17:48:43 Will report back after or during. 2011-10-11T17:49:00 If anybody has any questions they want me to relay during the meeting, speak now. 2011-10-11T17:49:24 whoa, that's actually happening, sweet 2011-10-11T17:50:55 Haha yeah. Finally. 2011-10-11T17:51:05 I take all the blame for neglecting this hehe. 2011-10-11T17:54:30 j3camero: may the force be with you 2011-10-11T17:54:49 *** McLeopold has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T17:55:14 how about exchanging point #1 and #2? 2011-10-11T17:55:21 Hurry mcstar, you're our only hope. 2011-10-11T17:56:18 i wonder how many googlers we have here 2011-10-11T17:56:58 besides myself, who hasn't done work on this in several months :P 2011-10-11T17:57:18 *** McLeopold has left #aichallenge 2011-10-11T17:57:18 there is definitely 1 i heard, but im confused about its identity 2011-10-11T17:57:21 a1k0n, mspang, and others are also googlers. 2011-10-11T17:57:31 oh right, a1k0n joined us recently 2011-10-11T17:57:41 and i actually met sigh 2011-10-11T17:57:42 j3camero: and from the orgnaizers? 2011-10-11T17:57:48 thats it sigh 2011-10-11T18:12:55 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) 2011-10-11T18:13:03 Zanick whts your IRL name? 2011-10-11T18:14:11 Ben Wolf or bswolf 2011-10-11T18:17:44 *** McLeopold has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T18:32:32 Zannick: you okay with someone from the university programs team contacting you to ask you about your involvement? 2011-10-11T18:32:49 j3camero: yeah 2011-10-11T18:33:09 coolio. 2011-10-11T18:33:16 Can you PM me your @google.com address? 2011-10-11T18:33:27 Or nevermind. They can find you in the directory. 2011-10-11T18:33:34 go/people or whatever. 2011-10-11T18:33:50 it's bswolf all the same 2011-10-11T18:34:41 j3camero: so, is the meeting over? 2011-10-11T18:35:25 Yup, just ended. 2011-10-11T18:36:07 how did it go? 2011-10-11T18:36:10 i hope that's not "ask about your involvement" in a bad way 2011-10-11T18:36:20 Haha no. 2011-10-11T18:36:27 :) 2011-10-11T18:36:49 They are just looking to build bridges internally with all the folks who are involved. MAybe create a mailing list or something. Not sure. 2011-10-11T18:36:50 the university programs people for my college are pretty chill 2011-10-11T18:37:07 They are all chill! 2011-10-11T18:37:14 Great people all around. 2011-10-11T18:37:20 i haven't met them all 2011-10-11T18:38:25 Neither have I. There has been a bit of turnover since I was last in Cali in person. 2011-10-11T18:39:18 How many googlers did you meet with? 2011-10-11T18:40:36 are there any blockers from your side now for launching? 2011-10-11T18:40:51 *** janzert1 is now known as janzert 2011-10-11T18:42:35 j3camero: so did it seem like it would be fine to continue using the Google name? 2011-10-11T18:42:49 McLeopold: just 1 this time. He was representing their whole University Programs team though. 2011-10-11T18:43:10 antimatroid: Yes and no. 2011-10-11T18:43:18 :s 2011-10-11T18:43:27 oh hey Zannick 2011-10-11T18:43:54 hey 2011-10-11T18:44:00 so, that means there are hoops to jump through? 2011-10-11T18:44:14 So on point (1): can we use the name Google AI Challenge. There was some resistance to using the name Google AI Challenge because it implies that the event is being run and owned by Google. The suggestion was that we should call it "AI Challenge" with the subtitle "sponsored by Google". That's fine with me. Objections? 2011-10-11T18:44:18 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T18:44:22 you've been idling in here too this whole time apparently 2011-10-11T18:44:45 it's not the same, but sure 2011-10-11T18:45:04 I've been thinking we should do that anyway 2011-10-11T18:45:23 a1k0n: the magic of irssi 2011-10-11T18:45:26 it'll allow us to get other sub-sponsors easier as well 2011-10-11T18:45:31 indeed. i just saw my '3' turn red. 2011-10-11T18:45:38 Does that imply sponsorship? :) 2011-10-11T18:45:54 j3camero: heh, the person you talked to is the supervisor of the person in charge of recruiting at my school (whom i know) 2011-10-11T18:45:55 or at least less awkwardly 2011-10-11T18:46:17 Okay so people seem to be fine with the response to point (1). We're now called the AI Challenge, with the subtitle "sponsored by Google". 2011-10-11T18:46:41 That fits the new domain name that amstan bought anyways. ai-challenge.org. 2011-10-11T18:46:54 without the dash, I believe 2011-10-11T18:46:54 sorry. aichalleng.org. No hyphen. 2011-10-11T18:47:03 those dashes -.- 2011-10-11T18:47:04 Old habits die hard. 2011-10-11T18:47:24 *** _flag <_flag!~flag@69-165-173-172.dsl.teksavvy.com> has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T18:47:35 j3camero: ok, name wise i'm ok, at least it's something that's we now know for sure 2011-10-11T18:47:39 j3camero: what about sponsorship? 2011-10-11T18:47:54 $ 2011-10-11T18:48:09 So on point (2): can we have money? There seemed to be a lot of support for funding. I didn't get a hard yes yet, but I am optimistic. We should know within a week at most. 2011-10-11T18:48:28 j3camero: ok, but we can launch then? 2011-10-11T18:48:50 did they tell you this telepathically? 2011-10-11T18:49:10 ssssssh, you can't talk about that 2011-10-11T18:49:14 This all has implications for the launch date. I agreed in the meeting to aim for November 1. But if that starts to slip, then we might as well do it January 15 or something. 2011-10-11T18:49:46 what? 2011-10-11T18:49:50 gawd 2011-10-11T18:50:15 i dunno, xmas break might be a good time for it 2011-10-11T18:50:30 people won't feel as bad about procrastinating at work 2011-10-11T18:50:39 whaa 2011-10-11T18:50:48 we are giving way to much time to beta testers 2011-10-11T18:50:54 in the middle of the fall woudl have been the best time in my poninon 2011-10-11T18:50:59 we ought to have launched last week already 2011-10-11T18:51:03 opinion* 2011-10-11T18:51:10 * janzert agrees 2011-10-11T18:51:13 last week is the best time to do anything 2011-10-11T18:51:34 * Zannick remembers when the launch estimate was february 2011-10-11T18:51:39 haha 2011-10-11T18:51:40 a1k0n: good for you, its always next week for me 2011-10-11T18:51:56 Agreed. But money. :-) 2011-10-11T18:52:06 anyway I really can't pay for the beta server myself much longer so I'll need to go to a cheaper server or something soon 2011-10-11T18:52:26 *** jerede59 has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2011-10-11T18:52:31 well, let me say this: if launch get delayd, you might as well shit it down 2011-10-11T18:52:33 janzert: what's it costing you? 2011-10-11T18:52:34 you could always launch on credit 2011-10-11T18:52:35 we could just shut it down until launch? Everything is ready 2011-10-11T18:52:40 the current one is sized for the live contest, not a beta :} 2011-10-11T18:52:43 shut* 2011-10-11T18:52:48 (sorry, shut it down) 2011-10-11T18:52:58 j3camero: around 60 a week if I recall correctly 2011-10-11T18:53:20 janzert: do you want to send me a bill? I can cut you a cheque in CAd or USD. 2011-10-11T18:53:50 I could do that 2011-10-11T18:53:56 paypal might be easiest? 2011-10-11T18:53:56 And by send em a bill, I just mean tell me how much. 2011-10-11T18:54:15 ppl! McLeopold has a point, early testers will have a huge headstart 2011-10-11T18:54:19 Yeah paypal could work. Embarassingly enough, I ave never done that before. So you'll have to show me how. 2011-10-11T18:54:49 well in that case, you're a perpretrator of fraud in paypal's view 2011-10-11T18:55:13 aichallenge: janzert * r45b94ac / website/header.php : Initial branding change draft - http://git.io/LHW33Q 2011-10-11T18:55:21 I see. If only we could fund this thing in Bitcoin... 2011-10-11T18:55:40 :) 2011-10-11T18:55:59 janzert: :S 2011-10-11T18:56:25 Okay. Overall, there seemed to be a lot of support. The main bottleneck now is waiting to see if Google can put the server funding together on their end. 2011-10-11T18:56:30 *** okay is now known as okayzed 2011-10-11T18:56:47 but it's hosted on EC2 right? 2011-10-11T18:57:09 j3camero: so, what's the probability that they don't sponsor? If we launched now, would that change things for Google? 2011-10-11T18:57:10 I haven't heard otherwise. 2011-10-11T18:57:10 j3camero: it's at 88.85 so far for the month, if you can pay for it I don't mind waiting till the end of the month and I can let you know what it ran 2011-10-11T18:57:14 a1k0n: es 2011-10-11T18:57:16 yes 2011-10-11T18:57:37 janzert: how about in the title: Ai Challenge: Ants, onthe sidebar the ants logo, with 2011 fall, and somewhere in the main-title, with small fonts UNDER the title saying sponsored by google? 2011-10-11T18:58:03 mcstar: that sponsored by google is actually suppose to be under the AI Challenge 2011-10-11T18:58:09 ah 2011-10-11T18:58:13 it follows it in the html 2011-10-11T18:58:21 something with the css must be bumping it up 2011-10-11T18:58:38 Oh, what's the beta server link again? 2011-10-11T18:58:48 @beta 2011-10-11T18:58:49 mcstar: beta could be http://aichallengebeta.hypertriangle.com/. 2011-10-11T18:59:04 or antsbeta.janzert.com or beta.aichallenge.org 2011-10-11T18:59:10 :) 2011-10-11T19:00:18 Sweet. 2011-10-11T19:00:25 So yeah. Now we wait. 2011-10-11T19:01:26 j3camero: so, what's the probability that they don't sponsor? If we launched now, would that change things for Google? 2011-10-11T19:02:09 I would feel better waiting until they tell me yes on funding, even if they haven't got the money to me yet. 2011-10-11T19:02:23 Otherwise there's the risk that we launch and I end up on the hook for a few grand. 2011-10-11T19:02:39 anyone know why #header h1 has a "position: absolute;"? 2011-10-11T19:02:43 If we launched now, would that change things for Google? 2011-10-11T19:02:51 How so? 2011-10-11T19:03:08 Did they ask you to wait until they got back to you? 2011-10-11T19:03:19 It's implied yep. 2011-10-11T19:03:20 hmm, I see it effects the background coloring 2011-10-11T19:03:42 Did they give a hard date? 2011-10-11T19:03:46 We also talked about coordinating PR for the launch. So I would want to talk with Google a bit before picking a launch date. 2011-10-11T19:04:37 *** nplus has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.17/2009122204]) 2011-10-11T19:06:25 not sure at this point we can do anything to mitigate the effect of people working on it before launch, so I think we just have to live with it. Sooner launch will in general be better of course :) 2011-10-11T19:07:01 aichallenge: janzert * rb85acdd / website/css/layout.css : Tweak header css - http://git.io/aAvc8Q 2011-10-11T19:07:43 Yes, for sure. 2011-10-11T19:11:05 also, sponsored by Google? 2011-10-11T19:12:37 *** kaemo has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2011-10-11T19:13:03 j3camero: Could we use the logo? 2011-10-11T19:13:54 do we really want a colored logo? I'd think probably not in the header at least, although it might be nice further down the page somewhere 2011-10-11T19:14:07 McLeopold, a1k0n: the use of the logo was actually suggested. That surprised me, since the logo was such a big deal in the past. 2011-10-11T19:14:12 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Google-Logo.svg 2011-10-11T19:14:46 Maybe we can get them to do one of those special holiday logos :) 2011-10-11T19:14:51 i think changing it to sponsored by google might be better anyway (my opinion) 2011-10-11T19:14:57 janzert: you may be right. We should do whatever looks best and works best. But the use of the logo may not be forbidden, is all I'm saying. 2011-10-11T19:15:49 i'd be wary without explicit okay 2011-10-11T19:16:38 There is a single-colour logo resource as well. 2011-10-11T19:17:04 Which is appropriate in many cases (e.g. against coloured backgrounds). 2011-10-11T19:17:06 *** nplus has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T19:17:26 aichallenge: janzert * r7fa953b / website/css/layout.css : Another css tweak - http://git.io/b3tH5A 2011-10-11T19:17:38 *** nplus has quit IRC (Changing host) 2011-10-11T19:17:38 *** nplus has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T19:18:58 now we just need to do something about either the graphic on the right or the word Ants 2011-10-11T19:19:02 Also, glad to see the "sponsored by X" thing is catching on. 2011-10-11T19:19:02 *** kaemo has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T19:19:16 maybe make them red ants 2011-10-11T19:19:51 <_flag> Why don't you guys centre the title? It seems wierd all off to the side 2011-10-11T19:20:38 I believe it's supposed to flow into the challenge game title "Ants" 2011-10-11T19:23:17 j3camero: have you read the tutorials yet? http://beta.aichallenge.org/ants_tutorial.php 2011-10-11T19:23:35 I did yes. 2011-10-11T19:23:45 Oh wait no I havent seen this. 2011-10-11T19:23:47 Any suggestions? 2011-10-11T19:24:09 I'm planning to add a couple more languages soon 2011-10-11T19:24:17 Oh damn. Nice. 2011-10-11T19:24:30 There are so many next steps. That's what I'm talking about. 2011-10-11T19:24:49 Example games, everything. Damn. 2011-10-11T19:26:46 Anyhow, having Google in the subtitle also helps avoid confusion with initiatives like Google Code Jam. 2011-10-11T19:29:18 My idea was to have a tab for main languages, then the basic tutorial would be the same. 2011-10-11T19:31:14 That's some fantastic work McLeopold. This will make it way easier for people to get started. 2011-10-11T19:32:53 aichallenge: janzert * r428c09e / website/images/ants.png : Try red ants in the header - http://git.io/AHMBYg 2011-10-11T19:33:24 janzert: can you do a favicon while your playing with that stuff? 2011-10-11T19:33:44 besides the ant we have? 2011-10-11T19:33:51 wow dude 2011-10-11T19:33:51 I'm not sure what else it should be 2011-10-11T19:34:05 yeah, it's not the same ant as the logo right now 2011-10-11T19:34:16 ahh 2011-10-11T19:34:29 It's just something I copied from the internet 2011-10-11T19:34:47 a1k0n: all I did was redden the base graphic up, whoever initially made it already had it slightly colored 2011-10-11T19:34:58 heh cool 2011-10-11T19:35:08 i didn't realize the logo was entirely done with css effects 2011-10-11T19:35:16 (well besides the ants themselves) 2011-10-11T19:35:23 I like the red, maybe a white or light green highlight on the word Ants now 2011-10-11T19:35:37 the tutorial is great too 2011-10-11T19:35:52 yeah, I think it needs a glow or drop shadow of some sort 2011-10-11T19:53:24 aichallenge: janzert * rdef5e58 / website/favicon.ico : Change favicon to match logo ant - http://git.io/EtNPog 2011-10-11T19:57:29 *** Chris_0076 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2011-10-11T19:57:36 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) 2011-10-11T19:58:38 *** Chris_0076 has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T19:58:45 antimatroid: did you ever get latex to work on the github wiki? 2011-10-11T20:26:07 aichallenge: McLeopold * rcc77d7e / website/css/pygments_style.css : add code css - http://git.io/htmYMQ 2011-10-11T20:27:47 aichallenge: McLeopold * r5c17103 / website/css/pygments_style.css : update css selectors for code highlighting - http://git.io/4ju_EQ 2011-10-11T20:30:53 @later tell janzert wiki latex and code highlighting in, I need to commit changes to md.py and mdx_latex.py later... 2011-10-11T20:30:53 McLeopold: Ready to serve, my lord. 2011-10-11T20:31:05 *** McLeopold has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2011-10-11T20:37:40 *** onensora has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2011-10-11T20:41:48 janzert: while you're on that, can you also make the header height a little more 2011-10-11T20:41:50 150% more 2011-10-11T20:42:08 it's too cramped right now, i don't think there's another website with a smaller header 2011-10-11T20:43:36 news.ycombinator.com www.reddit.com slashdot.org news.google.com www.mint.com 2011-10-11T20:44:15 www.amazon.com etc. :P 2011-10-11T20:45:11 I think vertical space on a page is only becoming more important with the trends in wide screen displays 2011-10-11T20:45:22 still 2011-10-11T20:45:26 it's a little too small for my taste 2011-10-11T20:46:18 we could shrink the text height if you think it's too cramped 2011-10-11T20:46:40 the only part that feels a bit cramped to me is the area with the graphic and word Ants though 2011-10-11T20:47:11 if we can get "Ants" to feel more like it is hovering above the graphic I think will help that 2011-10-11T21:01:24 *** okayzed is now known as okay 2011-10-11T21:17:34 aichallenge: janzert * r9df6573 / website/css/pygments_style.css : Merge branch 'epsilon' of github.com:aichallenge/aichallenge into epsilon - http://git.io/VvxUyg 2011-10-11T21:17:36 aichallenge: janzert * r50f0c58 / website/css/layout.css : Separate Ants in the header from the background a bit - http://git.io/oXduTA 2011-10-11T21:32:19 *** okay is now known as okayzed 2011-10-11T21:43:44 *** ibdknox has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T21:45:36 aichallenge: janzert * r58a1772 / website/images/ants.png : Remove excess space from ants graphic so it will center properly - http://git.io/DLyjyQ 2011-10-11T21:50:59 aichallenge: janzert * r36cb001 / website/css/layout.css : Give narrower sidebar a try - http://git.io/1AdmUg 2011-10-11T21:55:37 aichallenge: janzert * r80e84d6 / (website/css/layout.css website/header.php): Remove old sign in markup - http://git.io/VKUyfA 2011-10-11T22:16:21 *** eashoka has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T22:41:48 *** eashoka has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2011-10-11T23:04:53 *** okayzed is now known as okay 2011-10-11T23:07:55 *** _flag <_flag!~flag@69-165-173-172.dsl.teksavvy.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2011-10-11T23:09:53 *** dvladim has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T23:14:40 *** ChrisH__ has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T23:19:12 *** dvladim has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2011-10-11T23:25:21 *** okay is now known as okayzed 2011-10-11T23:28:29 *** dlila has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2011-10-11T23:32:34 *** okayzed is now known as okay 2011-10-11T23:33:56 *** McLeopold has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T23:35:42 *** _flag <_flag!~flag@69-165-173-172.dsl.teksavvy.com> has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T23:58:34 *** antimatroid1 has joined #aichallenge 2011-10-11T23:58:35 *** antimatroid has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)