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2012-01-20T09:08:24  <mcstar> contestbot welcome back!
2012-01-20T09:08:25  <contestbot> mcstar: User error, it's not my fault.
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2012-01-20T09:54:34  <mcstar> the leaving messages of this foctascano guy annoy me
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2012-01-20T12:15:11  <mcstar> why cant a nobel-prize winner biologist trim his quite extensive noise-hair?
2012-01-20T12:15:25  <mcstar> funny, i meant to write nose-hair
2012-01-20T12:15:48  <conor_f> heh
2012-01-20T12:16:06  <conor_f> Obviously part of an ongoing experiment he's running
2012-01-20T12:16:24  <conor_f> like a biologists version of a self portrait :P
2012-01-20T12:16:29  <conor_f> you see PE # 84?
2012-01-20T12:16:40  <mcstar> do i see it?
2012-01-20T12:17:00  <conor_f> http://projecteuler.net/problem=84
2012-01-20T12:17:00  <mcstar> isnt that what you solved yesterday?
2012-01-20T12:17:02  <conor_f> did
2012-01-20T12:17:05  <conor_f> I didn't solve it
2012-01-20T12:17:25  <conor_f> I still needed to implement what happens if you put in the chance cards...
2012-01-20T12:18:04  <mcstar> i stopped reading the problem description when reaching"monopoly"
2012-01-20T12:18:26  <conor_f> haha
2012-01-20T12:18:33  <conor_f> strange, thats what got me interested ;)
2012-01-20T12:19:22  <mcstar> monopoly seems complicated
2012-01-20T12:19:26  <mcstar> i like simpler problems
2012-01-20T12:19:41  <mcstar> for example the 3n+1 problem
2012-01-20T12:19:49  <conor_f> it must be easy enough if I'm attempting it
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2012-01-20T12:24:59  <conor_f> mcstar: you're good with C++
2012-01-20T12:25:16  <conor_f> can I have case < x && > y ?
2012-01-20T12:25:26  <conor_f> or will I need if statments?
2012-01-20T12:26:21  <mcstar> conor_f http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Tim_Hunt_at_UCSF_05_2009_%284%29.jpg
2012-01-20T12:26:43  <mcstar> you can dispatch case on integers
2012-01-20T12:26:47  <conor_f> that's disgusting ffs....
2012-01-20T12:26:53  <conor_f> amm what do you mean??
2012-01-20T12:27:13  <mcstar> well, 1>2 is false, also 0
2012-01-20T12:27:20  <mcstar> 2>1 is true, 1
2012-01-20T12:27:40  <conor_f> ok....
2012-01-20T12:27:42  <conor_f> I know that
2012-01-20T12:27:55  <mcstar> i mean you can handle integer cases
2012-01-20T12:28:02  <conor_f> yeah
2012-01-20T12:28:06  <mcstar> so in this way you can handle bool cases
2012-01-20T12:28:16  <mcstar> is that what you were asking for?
2012-01-20T12:29:10  <mcstar> huh?
2012-01-20T12:29:13  <conor_f> amm
2012-01-20T12:29:16  <conor_f> I'm not sure
2012-01-20T12:29:19  <conor_f> I only want to handle ints
2012-01-20T12:29:24  <mcstar> what do you want to achieve?
2012-01-20T12:30:39  <pairofdice> World peace
2012-01-20T12:35:04  <mcstar> i myself would like to have a monkey with four asses
2012-01-20T12:35:53  <conor_f> haha
2012-01-20T12:35:57  <conor_f> mcstar: it's ok
2012-01-20T12:36:08  <conor_f> it didn't need as many if statments as I imagined :P
2012-01-20T12:36:11  <conor_f> only 3
2012-01-20T12:36:25  <conor_f> I'm going to eat now, I'll be back in like 20 mins
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2012-01-20T12:49:34  <conor_f> back
2012-01-20T12:49:38  <conor_f> small dinner :P
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2012-01-20T13:03:38  <conor_f> has anyone done PE 84?
2012-01-20T13:03:45  <conor_f> I'm not getting the right answer :/
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2012-01-20T13:08:07  <mcstar> i finally read the description, i like it even less
2012-01-20T13:08:56  <mcstar> i dont feel the motivation, that i felt with other problems
2012-01-20T13:09:50  <conor_f> heh
2012-01-20T13:09:52  <conor_f> fair enough
2012-01-20T13:10:24  <conor_f> waiting for thestinger or sigh or someone who has done it so :P
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2012-01-20T13:28:46  <conor_f> mcstar: want to look at my code and edit what you think is wrong with it?
2012-01-20T13:31:37  <conor_f> weird...
2012-01-20T13:31:47  <conor_f> locally it works fine, on codepad it fails with an overflow
2012-01-20T13:32:55  <mcstar> paste away
2012-01-20T13:36:17  <conor_f> http://codepad.org/wQ3Sc7mi
2012-01-20T13:37:26  <mcstar> compile it with debug turned on and under gdb or whatever, thats the difference probably
2012-01-20T13:41:38  <conor_f> yeah
2012-01-20T13:48:00  <mcstar> int counter::get_next_location(int location, board board) {
2012-01-20T13:48:15  <mcstar> first time i see an identifier with the same name as its type
2012-01-20T13:48:32  <mcstar> probably not a good practice
2012-01-20T13:49:08  <mcstar> and you are copying that board much too often i believe
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2012-01-20T13:49:41  <mcstar> even when you initialize the vectors you are copying
2012-01-20T13:49:57  <mcstar> anyway, that code looks complicated, i cant see whats going on
2012-01-20T13:52:10  <mcstar> conor_f what are you trying to do?
2012-01-20T13:52:46  <mcstar> are you trying to get probabilities?
2012-01-20T13:52:58  <mcstar> i believe you should repeat the SAME experiment a number fo times
2012-01-20T13:53:21  <mcstar> like starting the game couple of thousand times
2012-01-20T13:53:38  <mcstar> as far as i can see, you are just running one game for a pretty long time
2012-01-20T13:54:23  <mcstar> and i dont know why you are dividing with 100000
2012-01-20T13:54:59  <mcstar> (there might be a good reason to do that, but i dont see)
2012-01-20T13:55:53  <conor_f> sorry
2012-01-20T13:55:55  <conor_f> yes
2012-01-20T13:55:59  <conor_f> getting percentages
2012-01-20T13:56:29  <conor_f> dividing by 100000 gets me a percentage
2012-01-20T13:56:43  <mcstar> oh
2012-01-20T13:56:52  <mcstar> im thinking in probabilities
2012-01-20T13:56:52  <conor_f> so maybe run the game for 100 turns 1000 times?
2012-01-20T13:56:58  <mcstar> that in [0,1]
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2012-01-20T13:57:16  <conor_f> it outputs the percentage of times it was landed on
2012-01-20T13:57:23  <mcstar> you need to run it for a longer time probably
2012-01-20T13:57:36  <conor_f> ok
2012-01-20T13:57:39  <mcstar> 1000x1000?
2012-01-20T13:57:50  <conor_f> so every 1000 turns I'll just set the counters location to 0
2012-01-20T13:58:19  <mcstar> i want you to average the runs
2012-01-20T13:58:30  <mcstar> i dont know about the rules
2012-01-20T13:58:31  <conor_f> :/
2012-01-20T13:58:36  <mcstar> does this game end on its own?
2012-01-20T13:58:43  <conor_f> no
2012-01-20T13:58:48  <conor_f> not by just rolling dice
2012-01-20T13:59:01  <conor_f> it ends by bankruptency which we don't have to deal with
2012-01-20T13:59:35  <mcstar> bankruptcy
2012-01-20T13:59:46  <conor_f> yeah
2012-01-20T13:59:48  <conor_f> >_<
2012-01-20T13:59:51  <conor_f> I found the mistake
2012-01-20T14:00:00  <conor_f> I was doing it for 2 6 by 6 die
2012-01-20T14:00:09  <conor_f> it asks for 2* 4 die
2012-01-20T14:00:20  <pairofdice> ^^
2012-01-20T14:00:34  <mcstar> (it isnt a 6by6 die)
2012-01-20T14:00:44  <conor_f> no
2012-01-20T14:00:51  <conor_f> 2 6 sided die mcstar :P
2012-01-20T14:00:58  <conor_f> I need to do it for 2 4 sided die
2012-01-20T14:01:01  <mcstar> yes, i read the problem
2012-01-20T14:01:18  <pairofdice> tetrahedron
2012-01-20T14:02:17  <conor_f> haha
2012-01-20T14:02:22  <conor_f> worked first time
2012-01-20T14:02:27  <conor_f> at least my code was right :P
2012-01-20T14:03:04  <mcstar> now i just have to figure out what to change, and i have a solution too
2012-01-20T14:03:20  <conor_f> really it can't be that difficult :P
2012-01-20T14:03:23  <conor_f> cheater ;)
2012-01-20T14:04:43  <pairofdice> :D
2012-01-20T14:05:30  <mcstar> it is still running, is it a good sign?
2012-01-20T14:05:39  <mcstar> ah done
2012-01-20T14:05:57  <conor_f> :P
2012-01-20T14:06:05  <conor_f> now go find the highest ones ;)
2012-01-20T14:07:45  <mcstar> got it
2012-01-20T14:07:51  <mcstar> thx
2012-01-20T14:08:12  <mcstar> i just got a lead on antimatroid
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2012-01-20T14:11:40  <conor_f> haha
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2012-01-20T14:11:52  <conor_f> I'm catching up with rwest
2012-01-20T14:12:00  <conor_f> wherever he's dissapeared too
2012-01-20T14:13:02  <mcstar> he probably wants to keep his new job
2012-01-20T14:13:18  <conor_f> oh, he got a new job
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2012-01-20T14:13:40  <conor_f> now all he needs is a desk where no-one can see his screen and an SSH box at home :P
2012-01-20T14:13:59  <mcstar> why?
2012-01-20T14:14:22  <conor_f> so he can ssh to home and IRC the day away? :P
2012-01-20T14:14:40  <mcstar> why does he need ssh?
2012-01-20T14:15:09  <conor_f> ....
2012-01-20T14:15:16  <mcstar> if he can use ssh on a machine he can use irc there too
2012-01-20T14:15:21  <conor_f> so he can connect out of his office?
2012-01-20T14:15:25  <mcstar> i dont get the joke if theres any
2012-01-20T14:15:41  <conor_f> I'm guessing that a company wouldn't approve of IRC
2012-01-20T14:15:53  <mcstar> theres webchat always
2012-01-20T14:16:04  <conor_f> whereas with a simple SSH tunnel/connection, he's fine
2012-01-20T14:16:19  <conor_f> imo, ssh + irssi > webchat
2012-01-20T14:16:39  <mcstar> but webchat only needs javascript i think
2012-01-20T14:16:56  <conor_f> yup
2012-01-20T14:16:57  <conor_f> thats all
2012-01-20T14:18:30  <conor_f> mcstar: what one should I do now?
2012-01-20T14:18:30  <pairofdice> Well, irssi >>> webchat
2012-01-20T14:19:02  <conor_f> irssi :)
2012-01-20T14:19:59  <mcstar> pairofdice im not familiar with that kind of bitshift
2012-01-20T14:20:48  <pairofdice> You wouldn't be
2012-01-20T14:21:10  <pairofdice> Because it's not bitshift
2012-01-20T14:21:12  <mcstar> anyway, with a custom plugin you could probably communicate with the irc server like a webchat client
2012-01-20T14:21:41  <mcstar> pairofdice so is it a redirection?
2012-01-20T14:21:53  <mcstar> or some kind of monadic operation?
2012-01-20T14:22:10  <mcstar> or emoticons of bullets?
2012-01-20T14:22:12  <conor_f> or do you just mean irssi is a lot greater then webchat?....
2012-01-20T14:22:24  <mcstar> you mean code size wise?
2012-01-20T14:22:43  <pairofdice> ;_;
2012-01-20T14:22:55  <mcstar> are you unhappy?
2012-01-20T14:23:16  <mcstar> sad, disturbed? unsure?
2012-01-20T14:23:21  <mcstar> feeling suicidal?
2012-01-20T14:23:34  <pairofdice> Starting to
2012-01-20T14:23:36  <mcstar> ofc im kidding
2012-01-20T14:23:40  <mcstar> haha
2012-01-20T14:23:43  <mcstar> you see?
2012-01-20T14:23:45  <mcstar> j/k
2012-01-20T14:23:51  <pairofdice> I know
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2012-01-20T14:27:49  <mcstar> hm, i sort of just fingered myself
2012-01-20T14:28:14  <pairofdice> TMI
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2012-01-20T14:44:20  <mcstar> did i miss musch?
2012-01-20T14:44:36  <mcstar> my isp dropped the connection or something similar happened
2012-01-20T14:45:29  <mcstar> pairofdice what is TMI?
2012-01-20T14:45:38  <pairofdice> Too Much Information
2012-01-20T14:45:57  <mcstar> oh, finger=whois
2012-01-20T14:46:11  <pairofdice> :D
2012-01-20T14:46:36  <mcstar> i was curious from what ip the wechat connects
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2012-01-20T18:50:56  <cyphase> Facebook Hacker Cup 2012: https://www.facebook.com/hackercup
2012-01-20T18:50:57  <cyphase> 72-hour Qualification Round starts in about 10 minutes
2012-01-20T18:51:27  <amstan> cyphase: you from facebook?
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2012-01-20T18:52:31  <antimatroid> i heard it was a bit of a disaster last year
2012-01-20T18:52:34  <cyphase> amstan, no, just wanted to let people know who might not have seen it
2012-01-20T18:52:46  <cyphase> antimatroid, how so? i missed it last year somehow
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2012-01-20T18:54:10  <antimatroid> can't find where
2012-01-20T18:54:23  <antimatroid> i think i saw a discussion on reddit somewhere a month or two ago
2012-01-20T18:55:03  <antimatroid> although some of the complaints were questionably petty, like not knowing one had limited time from downloading input to submitting their output (like codejam)
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2012-01-20T23:38:33  <antimatroid> you could make some sweet screen savers with maze generation algorithms
2012-01-20T23:39:44  <antimatroid> for that matter, you could make awesome mazes in minecraft
2012-01-20T23:39:51  <antimatroid> both underground and above
2012-01-20T23:40:03  <antimatroid> or a combination of both
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2012-01-20T23:58:37  <cyphase> antimatroid, indeed. big, huuge mazes