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2012-01-23T12:48:22  <McLeopold> amstan: hello, how's contestbot?
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2012-01-23T12:59:48  <Zannick> contestbot seems to be having issues
2012-01-23T12:59:49  <contestbot> Zannick: User error -- Replace user.
2012-01-23T13:00:54  <McLeopold> Zannick: did you mention before that you knew django?
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2012-01-23T13:01:09  <McLeopold> thestinger: hi
2012-01-23T13:01:13  <thestinger> hi :)
2012-01-23T13:01:15  <Zannick> Bot error -- Replace bot.
2012-01-23T13:01:22  <Zannick> McLeopold: yeah, i kind of know it
2012-01-23T13:02:06  <McLeopold> Zannick: are you planning to contribute to the next contest?
2012-01-23T13:02:20  <McLeopold> thestinger: are you going to try and catch me on euler :P
2012-01-23T13:02:31  <thestinger> bored of it for now
2012-01-23T13:02:39  <thestinger> I'll try in a few days :P
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2012-01-23T13:03:06  <Zannick> McLeopold: probably not to the website
2012-01-23T13:03:15  <McLeopold> yeah, I've got 3 "solutions" coded with brute force that need to be redone, I gave each an hour with no results
2012-01-23T13:03:27  <Zannick> amstan: contestbot doesn't like his hosting
2012-01-23T13:03:39  <McLeopold> Zannick: so then, the game engine? or something else?
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2012-01-23T13:04:14  <Zannick> McLeopold: the engine or the infrastructure, if i have the cycles
2012-01-23T13:04:53  <McLeopold> okay, I'm looking at pyramid right now, I'm liking it much more than django
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2012-01-23T13:05:38  <thestinger> McLeopold: what are you using it for?
2012-01-23T13:05:45  <thestinger> if it's just a small application, cherrypy is awesome
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2012-01-23T13:07:08  <McLeopold> yeah, I've looked at it before, it is nice
2012-01-23T13:07:15  <McLeopold> I've also looked at web.py
2012-01-23T13:07:34  <McLeopold> I really like aspen, but I think we need a bit more infrastructure
2012-01-23T13:08:55  <Zannick> I've used web.py
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2012-01-23T13:13:21  <contestbot> thestinger: User error -- Replace user.
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2012-01-23T13:37:48  <pairofdice> Slightly
2012-01-23T13:37:50  <thestinger> I just /filter'ed it :P
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2012-01-23T13:40:39  *** contestbot was kicked by Zannick (4 hour temp ban)
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2012-01-23T13:56:22  <amstan> contestbot: you be nice now
2012-01-23T13:56:23  <contestbot> amstan: Run as fast as you can and don't look back.
2012-01-23T13:56:32  <amstan> Zannick, pairofdice, thestinger: sorry about that
2012-01-23T13:56:48  <amstan> i started a second instance of contestbot without realizing it, so they were ghosting eachother
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2012-01-23T13:56:59  <Zannick> oh, whoops. lol
2012-01-23T13:57:15  <amstan> i guess that's another feature supybot needs
2012-01-23T13:57:22  <amstan> a lock file so it doesn't start 2 instances
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2012-01-23T14:00:06  <Zannick> a pid file
2012-01-23T14:00:13  <Zannick> perhaps
2012-01-23T14:04:37  <McLeopold> amstan: the contestbot pages doesn't have a link to the logs
2012-01-23T14:05:12  <amstan> McLeopold: i installed arch on my server this weekend, still haven't finished doing all the permissions
2012-01-23T14:05:20  <amstan> only the folder listing is broken
2012-01-23T14:05:28  <amstan> but if you go in /channellogs i think they're all there
2012-01-23T14:05:28  <McLeopold> oh
2012-01-23T14:05:47  <amstan> yeah: http://contestbot.aichallenge.org/channellogs/%23aichallenge/
2012-01-23T14:05:50  <McLeopold> I've been debating moving my system from gentoo to arch/ubuntu
2012-01-23T14:06:06  <amstan> arch seems nice
2012-01-23T14:06:17  <McLeopold> I like minimalizm
2012-01-23T14:06:57  <McLeopold> But ubuntu would match the contest server, so I might just do that so I only have to memorize one setup
2012-01-23T14:16:05  <amstan> it doesn't really matter
2012-01-23T14:16:15  <amstan> just get a ubuntu vm
2012-01-23T14:16:25  <thestinger> arch just ships the upstream configs so there isn't really anything to learn
2012-01-23T14:17:08  <thestinger> figuring out the debian way of doing things can be annoying :P
2012-01-23T14:17:28  <amstan> thestinger: that's not exactly true, you have to learn every single small tool that you never bothered to learn in ubuntu
2012-01-23T14:17:56  <amstan> like.. i found out the hard way that an unpatched grub cannot boot from an mdadm raid array
2012-01-23T14:18:14  <amstan> or that getting hibernate and suspend working is a fairly involved task
2012-01-23T14:18:39  <thestinger> echo mem > /sys/power/state
2012-01-23T14:18:41  <thestinger> :P
2012-01-23T14:19:10  <thestinger> grub sucks a lot
2012-01-23T14:19:34  <thestinger> fedora is basically the only other distro using grub-legacy by default and they patch the hell out of it
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2012-01-23T14:25:58  <amstan> thestinger: grub2 i couldn't use because my grub image was somehow too big to fit in the mbr
2012-01-23T14:26:11  <amstan> so the only way for me to install grub2 is to repartition my drive
2012-01-23T14:26:21  <amstan> and i wasn't about to do that after the installer finished
2012-01-23T14:26:21  <thestinger> syslinux?
2012-01-23T14:26:26  <amstan> yes, so i used syslinux
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2012-01-23T15:08:58  <pairofdice> Holy sh!, http://www.udacity.com/ The robotic car course is in python to top it off
2012-01-23T15:09:25  <pairofdice> Online education has really started to take off
2012-01-23T15:09:43  <pairofdice> Sebastian quit his tenure at Stanford to teach online
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2012-01-23T15:19:56  <amstan> pairofdice: really?
2012-01-23T15:20:06  <pairofdice> Yeah
2012-01-23T15:20:37  <pairofdice> http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/23/udacity-and-the-future-of-online-universities/
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