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2012-02-09T03:54:33  <Blkt> good morning everyone
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2012-02-09T04:41:21  <antimatroid> i wish gmail had more @thingys.com
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2012-02-09T05:09:51  <antimatroid> thestinger: http://forums.aichallenge.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2235
2012-02-09T05:09:59  <antimatroid> that one almost seems like it was written by a human
2012-02-09T05:10:49  <thestinger> lol
2012-02-09T05:11:04  <thestinger> I guess they use markov chains
2012-02-09T05:11:10  <thestinger> I should make one :P
2012-02-09T05:11:20  <antimatroid> i'm actually curious
2012-02-09T05:11:22  <antimatroid> human written or not?
2012-02-09T05:11:42  <thestinger> I doubt it
2012-02-09T05:12:05  <antimatroid> i almost want to leave it as a badge of spam honour
2012-02-09T05:12:06  <thestinger> it would have to be really high volume spam for that to pay off (the link at the bottom)
2012-02-09T05:12:34  <thestinger> oh, links on the forum aren't marked nofollow
2012-02-09T05:12:38  <thestinger> so they actually get pagerank for that
2012-02-09T05:12:50  <thestinger> <a href="http://wmv-player.com/" class="postlink">mp4 to mp3 converter</a>
2012-02-09T05:13:08  <thestinger> if it had rel="nofollow" it would take away 99% of their incentive to spam
2012-02-09T05:13:34  <antimatroid> hmm, is that a virus?
2012-02-09T05:13:54  <thestinger> dunno
2012-02-09T05:14:05  <antimatroid> Q: What is WMV Player? 
2012-02-09T05:14:05  <antimatroid> A: It is one of the best and the most wanted video players and helps you play your music files with special codices. It is easy to use and hardly gets into problems. 
2012-02-09T05:14:06  <antimatroid> ahahaha
2012-02-09T05:14:10  <antimatroid> codices
2012-02-09T05:15:20  <thestinger> likely a virus
2012-02-09T05:15:29  <thestinger> https://www.virustotal.com/file/74d09306d1e2f92894752df056adc38bfd839e21cee12acc084ff7adbe879549/analysis/1328782300/
2012-02-09T05:15:55  <thestinger> if I wasn't so lazy I would run it in a VM :P
2012-02-09T05:17:07  <antimatroid> banned
2012-02-09T05:17:41  <antimatroid> @later tell amstan there's spam problems again, not sure if that ever stopped or not?
2012-02-09T05:17:41  <contestbot> antimatroid: OK
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2012-02-09T05:42:20  <thestinger> antimatroid: actually pretty neat how they work
2012-02-09T05:42:31  <thestinger> http://media.charlesleifer.com/images/photos/markov-chain.jpg (that's with a chain length of 2)
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2012-02-09T07:53:24  <delt0r> for the java website i use. They only way we got rid of spam was with a java question for account activation!
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2012-02-09T08:22:54  <thestinger> delt0r: yeah, similar thing was done for registration on the arch linux wiki
2012-02-09T08:23:26  <thestinger> got rid of all the spammers :P
2012-02-09T08:23:45  <thestinger> easy enough to do the question though, you just have to paste it into a terminal...
2012-02-09T08:24:08  <thestinger> http://bellard.org/jslinux/ works on that, so it's not like they even need to install anything
2012-02-09T08:24:19  <thestinger> still got rid of them
2012-02-09T08:24:27  <thestinger> too much effort, so they go post their links some other place
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2012-02-09T08:24:37  <thestinger> (they were human spammers though)
2012-02-09T08:36:17  <delt0r> yea
2012-02-09T08:36:28  <delt0r> it was human spammers for us too
2012-02-09T08:36:43  <delt0r> i can't see how its worth it, even at like 10c an hour
2012-02-09T08:45:02  <mcstar> java question? what does that mean?
2012-02-09T08:45:26  <mcstar> guess what a piece of java source code does?
2012-02-09T08:45:34  <mcstar> guess the ceo of java?
2012-02-09T08:45:53  <mcstar> guess the geographical location of java?
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2012-02-09T08:55:11  <delt0r> mcstar: What is the result of this code "System.out.print("Hello"+"world"+(42*38));
2012-02-09T08:55:14  <delt0r> sort of thing
2012-02-09T08:55:18  <delt0r> does 2 things...
2012-02-09T08:55:25  <delt0r> gets rid of spam
2012-02-09T08:56:30  <delt0r> and gets rid of every minecraft fanboy who wants to learn programing and write a minecraft clone, and then attempts to do this by asking all of us to write the code for them
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2012-02-09T09:07:52  <mcstar> what?
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2012-02-09T09:08:15  <mcstar> delt0r: is this "minecraft" thing some inside joke?
2012-02-09T09:09:19  <mcstar> 2136?
2012-02-09T09:09:39  <mcstar> hm 1596
2012-02-09T09:09:48  <mcstar> i failed the test
2012-02-09T09:09:52  <mcstar> so now what, i cant register?
2012-02-09T09:13:01  <delt0r> lol
2012-02-09T09:13:26  <delt0r> minecraft http://www.minecraft.net/
2012-02-09T09:13:46  <mcstar> ive seen it
2012-02-09T09:13:47  <delt0r> notch was on the website for a while and in the irc channel every now and then
2012-02-09T09:13:50  <delt0r> its in java
2012-02-09T09:13:51  <mcstar> i just dont know what that is
2012-02-09T09:14:07  <mcstar> so its a game running in the browser?
2012-02-09T09:14:13  <delt0r> and its sold millions of copies
2012-02-09T09:14:31  <delt0r> there is a stand alone client too i think
2012-02-09T09:14:37  <delt0r> i have never played either
2012-02-09T09:14:38  <mcstar> ive seen earlier some you tube video of minecraft with some sheeps
2012-02-09T09:14:42  <mcstar> it was utterly boring
2012-02-09T09:15:00  <delt0r> but is a typical story of someone getting millions with a hobby
2012-02-09T09:15:27  <delt0r> so every 16 yr old that like the game things... screw school, i'll just write a minecraft clone
2012-02-09T09:15:30  <mcstar> so people pay to play that thing
2012-02-09T09:15:52  <delt0r> they don't get the idea that playing games does not give you any skills required to program them
2012-02-09T09:16:07  <mcstar> lol
2012-02-09T09:16:25  <delt0r> yea... people paid alright
2012-02-09T09:16:40  <delt0r> notch is now a millionaire
2012-02-09T09:16:52  <delt0r> that was for beta versions too
2012-02-09T09:17:16  <delt0r> almost 5 million copies sold
2012-02-09T09:17:27  <delt0r> at 10EU each
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2012-02-09T09:18:19  <mcstar> i'd send all those people to the gulag, and build railroads with them
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2012-02-09T09:18:30  <delt0r> if you had a ai comp that was minecraft/DF clone...you would get a *lot* of interest
2012-02-09T09:18:36  <delt0r> lol
2012-02-09T09:18:58  <delt0r> hay... each to his/her own... i wouldn't like the game so much, but other do
2012-02-09T09:23:28  <mcstar> the money would be certainly nice, but i'd be a living hell for me, spending my time developing something inconsequential and stupid
2012-02-09T09:23:40  <mcstar> it'd*
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2012-02-09T09:27:36  <delt0r> game devs don't think that writing games is stupid...
2012-02-09T09:27:39  <delt0r> as it turns out
2012-02-09T09:29:37  <mcstar> XD
2012-02-09T09:29:44  <mcstar> yes, i dont think so
2012-02-09T09:29:54  <mcstar> it came out a bit too harsh
2012-02-09T09:30:03  <mcstar> i didnt really mean stupid
2012-02-09T09:30:19  <mcstar> but other than making many off of it, it seems a bit pointless
2012-02-09T09:30:44  <mcstar> as i said earlier, i only like FPS games
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2012-02-09T09:35:56  <delt0r> lol
2012-02-09T09:36:15  <delt0r> I only play quake 3 with my wife and daughter...
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2012-02-09T10:57:55  <antimatroid> mcstar: a1k0n was quite into minecraft for a while, not sure if he still is
2012-02-09T10:58:07  <antimatroid> i've heard people call it lego for adults
2012-02-09T10:58:14  <antimatroid> i've not really got that into it either
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2012-02-09T11:09:12  <mcstar> antimatroid: when i was of the ago to play lego, i played with electricity instead, i was mesmerised with transformators, and sparks
2012-02-09T11:09:23  <mcstar> and i liked magnets too
2012-02-09T11:09:43  <mcstar> ago->age
2012-02-09T11:10:20  <rwest> minecraft is fun, until you get banned from the server you are playing on for cheating and you lose all you built lol
2012-02-09T11:10:45  <rwest> Not my fault that indy games have exploitable bugs!
2012-02-09T11:11:22  <thestinger> mcstar: minecraft has some neat stuff
2012-02-09T11:11:39  <thestinger> like "redstone", which lets you use logic gates, etc. to build things
2012-02-09T11:11:55  <rwest> you can build entire CPUs with it
2012-02-09T11:12:13  <rwest> or even displays powered by cpus
2012-02-09T11:12:19  <rwest> I have seen some crazy shit
2012-02-09T11:12:21  <thestinger> incredibly boring game though :P
2012-02-09T11:12:36  <thestinger> I'm incapable of playing for more than 4 minutes before getting bored
2012-02-09T11:12:47  <rwest> thestinger: you have no imagination!
2012-02-09T11:12:54  <thestinger> lol
2012-02-09T11:13:07  <rwest> however, I wish it had better liquid physics :-/
2012-02-09T11:13:20  <rwest> I dug a hole through the world to drain the ocean
2012-02-09T11:13:25  <rwest> didn't work :(
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2012-02-09T11:13:34  <thestinger> I liked it when it had infinite water/lava
2012-02-09T11:13:47  <rwest> it still pretty much does
2012-02-09T11:13:47  <thestinger> you could flood a world with a block of lava :P
2012-02-09T11:13:57  <thestinger> sort of
2012-02-09T11:14:02  <thestinger> but it used to spread the actual source blocks
2012-02-09T11:14:10  <rwest> oh thats even more lame
2012-02-09T11:14:17  <rwest> I want to be able to drain water
2012-02-09T11:14:20  <thestinger> they had sponges to do that
2012-02-09T11:14:24  <rwest> but water has no volume in the game
2012-02-09T11:14:32  <thestinger> sponges no longer do anything
2012-02-09T11:14:36  <rwest> it just has a producer and some rules
2012-02-09T11:14:38  <thestinger> since water isn't infinite :P
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2012-02-09T13:42:16  <mleise> water... ah yes. the one block that ruined the experience for me
2012-02-09T13:42:56  <rwest> mleise: welcome to 2 hours ago :)
2012-02-09T13:43:45  <mleise> hehe, right. but i wanted to tell someone that I am not amused by holes in the ocean from picking up some water with a bucket
2012-02-09T13:43:55  <rwest> lol
2012-02-09T13:43:58  <rwest> exactly
2012-02-09T13:44:04  <rwest> water needs volume
2012-02-09T13:44:12  <mleise> it has to level somehow
2012-02-09T13:44:13  <rwest> and should even out when some is removed
2012-02-09T13:44:30  <rwest> it doesn't leave holes so much anymore
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2012-02-09T13:44:42  <rwest> it just fills in the spot with a weird current afterwards
2012-02-09T13:44:49  <mleise> yes, I know
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2012-02-09T13:47:33  <rwest> I want to drain the ocean
2012-02-09T13:47:45  <mleise> where to?
2012-02-09T13:50:38  <rwest> into caves
2012-02-09T13:50:42  <rwest> or out the bottom of the map
2012-02-09T13:50:56  <mleise> not possible... there is bed rock
2012-02-09T13:51:09  <mleise> you want to fool me
2012-02-09T13:55:28  <rwest> it is possible
2012-02-09T13:55:35  <rwest> it's not all sealed
2012-02-09T13:55:43  <rwest> you will find holes through it
2012-02-09T13:56:13  <rwest> I make traps that push people through them
2012-02-09T13:56:49  <rwest> I have also made traps that kill people and take their items to a hidden room like monster traps do
2012-02-09T13:57:10  <rwest> I am what you a call "an asshole" though
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2012-02-09T14:02:00  <mleise> so ... where do you end up through these holes?
2012-02-09T14:02:28  <rwest> you die
2012-02-09T14:02:29  <rwest> lol
2012-02-09T14:02:39  <rwest> and all your shit is unreachable after you die
2012-02-09T14:02:44  <mleise> how do the holes look like?
2012-02-09T14:03:12  <rwest> it just looks like a never-ending shadow
2012-02-09T14:03:29  <mleise> so it is just black
2012-02-09T14:03:37  <rwest> not completely
2012-02-09T14:03:40  <mleise> ?
2012-02-09T14:03:54  <rwest> I dunno, go dig a hole, it won't take loing
2012-02-09T14:03:55  <rwest> lol
2012-02-09T14:04:37  <mleise> aww.. I'll watch one of the 100000 youtube videos on holes in the world instead
2012-02-09T14:05:25  <rwest> haha
2012-02-09T14:12:55  <mleise> so it actually renders the skybox there
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2012-02-09T14:41:39  <rwest> mleise: much better explanation
2012-02-09T14:41:41  <rwest> lol
2012-02-09T14:42:13  <rwest> I made traps that would push people systematically down holes via pistons
2012-02-09T14:42:25  <rwest> until they fell out the bottom of the world
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2012-02-09T20:20:29  <jstrong> Does anyone know when the next AI contest will take place?
2012-02-09T20:21:35  <amstan> nope
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2012-02-09T20:22:05  <jstrong> heheheh, okay.
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