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my legs aren't too bad from riding most places 2012-03-02T12:50:20 ive always been quite strong, as far as someone who never exercised can be, and could beat guys who did it regulary, so i never was motivated enough 2012-03-02T12:50:52 but i like running, i did it again yesterday, cause i need to have some stamina 2012-03-02T12:50:58 thats an entirely different story 2012-03-02T12:51:27 you cant gain cardiovascular strength with eating proteins and bench-pushing 2012-03-02T12:53:07 at one point i tried tai-chi training though 2012-03-02T12:53:17 i downloaded some tutorial dvd's 2012-03-02T12:53:57 (it wasnt bad at all, ill try to do it again sometime) 2012-03-02T12:54:09 lawyer up and hit the gym 2012-03-02T12:54:20 no 2012-03-02T12:54:48 when i got into uni, i went to the gym with some guy in the hostel 2012-03-02T12:54:54 i found it entirely boring 2012-03-02T12:57:10 probably all the people i met and were visiting the gym regularly, they wanted to gain weight 2012-03-02T12:57:15 i mean how stupid is that? 2012-03-02T12:57:58 if anything, i want to lose weight 2012-03-02T12:58:09 i just want to run... 2012-03-02T12:58:54 (my left ankle was broken and so it limits the amount of running i can do in a copule of days' time) 2012-03-02T13:02:06 "im in a crowded room, yet i have noone to talk to" 2012-03-02T13:07:54 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-03-02T13:10:44 *** treeform_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-02T13:17:03 yeah gyms don't really interest me 2012-03-02T13:17:22 a1k0n: stanford is really slow with starting their machine learning course :( 2012-03-02T13:17:28 dunno if i've got time for it anymore 2012-03-02T13:18:55 mcstar: muscle weight 2012-03-02T13:19:24 I decided to do the udacity cs373 one but it's boring 2012-03-02T13:19:40 just a tiny bit of math and a tiny bit of code 2012-03-02T13:21:15 which is it? 2012-03-02T13:21:23 search engine or car? 2012-03-02T13:21:51 car 2012-03-02T13:21:55 the search engine is cs101 2012-03-02T13:22:02 like i should know.. 2012-03-02T13:22:11 *** GeorgeSebastian has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-03-02T13:22:28 i dont think any of my courses have started yet 2012-03-02T13:22:36 so far he's taught localization with histograms and kalman filters 2012-03-02T13:22:47 but I had to go elsewhere to actually learn most of the interesting stuff 2012-03-02T13:23:03 most of it was review of basic probability and linear algebra 2012-03-02T13:23:09 hm, thats pretty advanced on the first week 2012-03-02T13:23:29 mcstar: he didn't really go very far into depth though, at all 2012-03-02T13:23:36 kalman filters was the 2nd week (this week) 2012-03-02T13:23:53 mcstar: for example he made us a matrix class, and gave us the equation 2012-03-02T13:24:03 just had to convert the math markup -> python basically 2012-03-02T13:24:32 lol, i had to convert a bit of python to c++ 2012-03-02T13:24:35 and then the homework was to do it for higher dimensions (had to come up the the matrices) 2012-03-02T13:24:40 from the matplotlib sources 2012-03-02T13:24:42 with the* 2012-03-02T13:25:04 ic 2012-03-02T13:25:40 the unit 2 homework was basically just math, no coding 2012-03-02T13:25:46 the guy who wrote the python code did some modulo magic, which i just simplified to a floor :) 2012-03-02T13:25:57 the "programming" exercise was plugging in the values for the matrices :P 2012-03-02T13:26:11 the unit 1 hw was harder 2012-03-02T13:26:36 had to make the histogram localization (which he taught only in 1D) work for 2D 2012-03-02T13:26:44 still not very hard, but at least we had to program something 2012-03-02T13:27:21 I think they'll probably make the next courses a lot more challenging 2012-03-02T13:27:33 what do you use for plotting? 2012-03-02T13:27:41 atm it feels like they are teaching too much stuff at once, so they can't really get into depth 2012-03-02T13:28:08 mcstar: matplotlib is nice since it's part of the whole scipy/numpy distribution 2012-03-02T13:28:16 but it has a pretty awful API imo 2012-03-02T13:28:38 I haven't really tried anything else 2012-03-02T13:29:14 afaik its the best for python 2012-03-02T13:29:42 probably not the best choice if you need real time plotting on huge data sets 2012-03-02T13:30:11 thestinger: im writing atm a scatter plot in qt 2012-03-02T13:33:20 cs373 seems to be mostly about teaching python atm, which is why I'm not really finding it interesting 2012-03-02T13:34:24 mcstar: does Qt have anything for that built-in? or you're just drawing on something like a canvas 2012-03-02T13:35:11 well, i tried a QGraphicsScene/QGraphicsView which lets you put objects into 'real space' 2012-03-02T13:35:17 and lets you interact with them 2012-03-02T13:35:31 but i found it eventually to be not suitable 2012-03-02T13:35:43 so im now just painting on a regular surface 2012-03-02T13:36:25 i want to have zoom, and pan, and axis labels/ticks 2012-03-02T13:37:06 qt doesnt even provide you with writing rotated text! 2012-03-02T13:37:16 (like aligned rotated text) 2012-03-02T13:38:38 thestinger: and im using boost.asio for serial communication 2012-03-02T13:38:58 ugh, async :P 2012-03-02T13:39:08 its not bad, couple of lines 2012-03-02T13:39:30 yeah, I guess it only gets bad when your whole application is just event-based 2012-03-02T13:39:34 9 found some example code to start from, i kept what i needed 2012-03-02T13:39:48 9->i 2012-03-02T13:39:59 I got really turned off from it by twisted and node.js, compared to Go and stackless python 2012-03-02T13:40:19 from what? 2012-03-02T13:40:32 event-based systems? 2012-03-02T13:40:34 async/event-based programming 2012-03-02T13:40:35 yeah 2012-03-02T13:40:49 I've been fully convinced by the lightweight thread people that it's crap 2012-03-02T13:40:59 qt is nice as long as you have 1 gui thread 2012-03-02T13:41:01 *** Israfel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-03-02T13:41:37 the io is run on a different thread, so this doesnt affect the gui 2012-03-02T13:41:43 well, not entirely 2012-03-02T13:41:52 cause i will send signals from that thread to the gui 2012-03-02T13:42:16 when a widget needs updating, cause new data has arrived.. 2012-03-02T13:49:11 *** flowenol has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-02T13:54:51 *** Israfel has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-02T14:08:31 *** kilae has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]) 2012-03-02T14:25:29 *** superflit has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-03-02T14:27:02 *** mikewintermute has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-02T14:30:02 i had to use matlab yesterday 2012-03-02T14:30:02 ergh 2012-03-02T14:34:33 hehe 2012-03-02T14:34:41 i hope it hurt 2012-03-02T14:35:03 i remember for a course i had to build a gui for a problem in matlab 2012-03-02T14:35:26 something like solving an ode, i dont remember 2012-03-02T14:37:25 whoa, im segfaulting when copying a vector 2012-03-02T14:38:14 *** mleise has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-03-02T14:40:30 thestinger: is there some triviality regarding algorithms/copy that i dont seem to realize? 2012-03-02T14:41:56 *** tobym has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-03-02T14:42:19 lol 2012-03-02T14:42:33 dunno :P 2012-03-02T14:42:33 i have to .reserve before the copying! 2012-03-02T14:42:49 probably a bug elsewhere 2012-03-02T14:42:52 copy seems to use memcpy directly 2012-03-02T14:43:00 not by iterating over 2012-03-02T14:45:29 maybe valgrind can find the bug 2012-03-02T14:46:03 i can copy to a vector, form another, but first i have to to.reserve(from.size()) its size 2012-03-02T14:46:12 but after the copy took place, its size remains 0 2012-03-02T14:46:31 what's the size and capacity of it? 2012-03-02T14:47:13 aham 2012-03-02T14:47:19 i have to call .resize() 2012-03-02T14:47:19 *** mikewintermute has quit IRC (Quit: mikewintermute) 2012-03-02T14:55:23 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2012-03-02T15:01:24 thestinger: im looking at shades of white for a nice background color for the plot, but on my lcd most of them look the same! 2012-03-02T15:01:40 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Shades_of_white 2012-03-02T15:02:01 omg 2012-03-02T15:02:05 what a huge difference 2012-03-02T15:02:14 on the crt they all look different 2012-03-02T15:03:18 heh, most look the same for me 2012-03-02T15:03:26 well 2012-03-02T15:03:35 I can tell the difference between them all, but not without looking closely 2012-03-02T15:03:42 all different to me 2012-03-02T15:03:47 and I am partially colorblind 2012-03-02T15:03:50 ok, i changed the contrast, lowered it and its a bit better 2012-03-02T15:03:55 mcstar: put your lcd screen at an angle 2012-03-02T15:04:10 what do you mean? 2012-03-02T15:04:18 lean it backwards 2012-03-02T15:04:26 like move the top backwards with the bottom staying in the same place 2012-03-02T15:04:36 makes it darker 2012-03-02T15:04:49 that doesnt matter 2012-03-02T15:04:57 the brightness bleeds out all the color if you just have the regular backlights 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