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(well, maybe it got moved to [core] but I'm not sure) 2012-03-05T04:26:45 i dont using testing 2012-03-05T04:26:52 they flipped on a setting to use the ext4 module for ext2 and ext3 like fedora is doing 2012-03-05T04:27:02 I don't know if they turned it off before moving it to [core] 2012-03-05T04:27:15 well, i solved it by adding the ext3 module explicitely to mkinitcpio.conf 2012-03-05T04:27:42 but first i had to fiddle with a pendrive to actually chroot my system 2012-03-05T04:27:55 pita 2012-03-05T04:28:10 yeah 2012-03-05T04:28:29 if you install linux-lts, then you have another kernel to fall back to 2012-03-05T04:28:57 while i was at it, i made a freedos disk to run wdidle3.exe, so as to lenghten my WD caviar green's head unload time 2012-03-05T04:29:20 oh, is it one of those drives that parks the head after a second or two? 2012-03-05T04:29:21 probably its a good idea to keep some bakcup kernel/ramfs 2012-03-05T04:29:24 and then kills itself 2012-03-05T04:29:26 8 secs 2012-03-05T04:29:35 i increased it to 300 2012-03-05T04:29:46 it had 270000 load/unload cycles in a year 2012-03-05T04:29:49 *** Harpyon has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T04:29:50 heh, so freedos actually has a purpose 2012-03-05T04:29:54 yeah :) 2012-03-05T04:30:05 I wonder if that works in reactos 2012-03-05T04:30:30 i wanted to try it years ago 2012-03-05T04:30:39 but instead i went with beos 2012-03-05T04:30:51 (while i was still searching for the perfect os) 2012-03-05T04:31:02 how silly of me. but i was a kid.. 2012-03-05T04:33:45 I've just left debian installed on my plug computer because it's a real PITA to deal with something going wrong 2012-03-05T04:34:13 but having to install a dozen up-to-date versions of stuff is pretty annoying too... 2012-03-05T04:34:39 what do you mean? 2012-03-05T04:34:43 rugular updates? 2012-03-05T04:34:45 e 2012-03-05T04:34:53 well it's debian stable, so the software is from 2008 2012-03-05T04:35:00 oh 2012-03-05T04:35:20 well, i promised myslef to buy a pendrive for this pupose, but i always forget 2012-03-05T04:35:51 to get to the bootloader/consoles in the plug computer I have to set up this JTAG stuff 2012-03-05T04:35:58 I forget how so I really don't want to deal with it again 2012-03-05T04:36:18 i have no idea what jtag is 2012-03-05T04:36:41 it's some kind of "open" standard for connections to embedded stuff 2012-03-05T04:36:47 but each vendor implements the details differently 2012-03-05T04:36:54 *** epicmonkey has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T04:37:05 so there are 1000 drivers 2012-03-05T04:37:20 i see, so actually i dont know what a plug computer is 2012-03-05T04:37:24 oh 2012-03-05T04:37:45 it's just a little ARM computer, uses ~2-5 watts 2012-03-05T04:37:48 I use it as a server 2012-03-05T04:38:14 cute 2012-03-05T04:38:17 serving what? 2012-03-05T04:38:39 well I run my torrent client on there (transmission-daemon), and some other stuff 2012-03-05T04:38:56 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T04:38:58 i see 2012-03-05T04:39:08 web server, ntp server, dns server and backups from the other computers 2012-03-05T04:39:19 not really using the web server for anything atm though 2012-03-05T04:39:51 i wanted to put my old laptop on top of a huge cabinet and forget about it 2012-03-05T04:45:33 mcstar: did you do ai-class? 2012-03-05T04:45:46 no 2012-03-05T04:52:04 *** Accoun has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-03-05T05:02:35 *** dorisabayon has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T05:06:08 *** Fandekasp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-03-05T05:12:03 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T05:16:30 *** Accoun has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-03-05T05:21:07 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T05:29:43 mcstar: still no signs of machine learning starting :( 2012-03-05T05:29:56 i'm so busy now too, but i'm still keen to try and find time 2012-03-05T05:30:18 i have 3 tutes to take each week this semester though :) 2012-03-05T05:36:11 *** Harpyon has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 2012-03-05T06:03:42 *** iglo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-03-05T06:14:34 *** dorisabayon has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-03-05T06:16:21 *** Fandekasp has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T06:20:32 *** mleise has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-03-05T06:31:51 *** Blkt has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-03-05T06:53:22 *** Jak_o_Shadows has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-03-05T06:55:38 *** antarn11 has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T06:56:28 Hey, is there any plans for the next contest yet? 2012-03-05T06:57:07 none as yet 2012-03-05T06:57:49 antimatroid: thanks for the info 2012-03-05T07:34:39 *** amstan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-03-05T07:39:33 *** antarn11 has left #aichallenge (". . .. ... .....") 2012-03-05T08:06:29 i recognise that sequence! 2012-03-05T08:31:03 wow, particle filters are awesome 2012-03-05T08:33:22 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-03-05T08:39:01 *** raemde has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-03-05T08:46:47 *** mceier has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T09:05:10 *** ikaros has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T09:18:44 *** X-Scale has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T09:21:35 *** _GeorgeSebastian <_GeorgeSebastian!~georgeseb@223.237.239.172> has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T09:22:37 *** coeus has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T09:37:56 *** Areks|2 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2012-03-05T09:40:34 *** _GeorgeSebastian <_GeorgeSebastian!~georgeseb@223.237.239.172> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-03-05T09:44:17 *** _GeorgeSebastian <_GeorgeSebastian!~georgeseb@117.211.83.5> has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T09:50:17 *** _GeorgeSebastian <_GeorgeSebastian!~georgeseb@117.211.83.5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-03-05T10:02:32 *** _GeorgeSebastian <_GeorgeSebastian!~georgeseb@223.227.54.6> has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T10:07:03 *** _GeorgeSebastian <_GeorgeSebastian!~georgeseb@223.227.54.6> has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2012-03-05T10:07:19 *** GeorgeSebastian has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T10:07:20 *** GeorgeSebastian has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T10:45:55 *** pairofdice has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T10:59:01 *** Israfel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2012-03-05T11:11:20 *** Israfel has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T11:42:52 *** delt0r_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-03-05T11:53:14 *** kilae has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T11:54:57 *** delt0r_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T11:56:34 *** kapoc has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T12:21:22 *** Palmik has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T12:27:23 *** coeus has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-03-05T12:52:52 *** kilae has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]) 2012-03-05T12:57:42 *** kilae has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T13:05:50 *** coeus has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T13:11:30 *** mviel__ has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T13:13:20 *** coeus has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-03-05T13:13:59 *** mviel_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-03-05T13:15:17 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-03-05T13:16:43 *** thauriswulfa has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T13:18:07 *** treeform_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T13:26:40 *** thauriswulfa has left #aichallenge 2012-03-05T13:30:50 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2012-03-05T13:38:45 *** kurnevsky1 has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T13:39:20 *** kurnevsky has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-03-05T13:41:41 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T14:19:24 *** GarfTop has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T14:20:27 *** choas has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T14:22:10 *** kire has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T14:22:58 *** Garf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2012-03-05T14:23:34 *** coeus has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T14:25:02 *** epicmonkey has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T14:31:48 *** kapoc has left #aichallenge 2012-03-05T14:33:36 *** ikaros has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) 2012-03-05T14:40:31 *** GeorgeSebastian has quit IRC (Quit: popped out) 2012-03-05T14:45:39 *** TheLinker has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T15:01:16 yet another reason not to use python2 2012-03-05T15:01:29 it's a crazy feminist :P http://sprunge.us/ZDBS 2012-03-05T15:05:48 http://sprunge.us/XNTM and with non-broken classes, it's a misogynist 2012-03-05T15:08:47 you are changing the definition order of the classes 2012-03-05T15:10:20 btw, thanks for the new word 2012-03-05T15:11:48 mcstar: no, python2 is stupid and compares types without >, <, >=, <= overloaded by their name 2012-03-05T15:13:02 no? 2012-03-05T15:13:04 yes you are 2012-03-05T15:13:23 I am, but that's not the reason 2012-03-05T15:13:27 the last defined class becomes 'higher' 2012-03-05T15:13:35 mcstar: http://sprunge.us/icZf 2012-03-05T15:14:25 now this is more interesting 2012-03-05T15:15:16 http://sprunge.us/jeSO python3 believes in gender equality 2012-03-05T15:15:36 mcstar: the part I don't understand is why "new-style" classes (inheriting from object) are ordered differently 2012-03-05T15:15:52 all classes inherit from object in python3 so there's nothing to compare there 2012-03-05T15:16:33 mcstar: I think I know why the feature exists 2012-03-05T15:16:36 for sorting 2012-03-05T15:16:58 what is object? 2012-03-05T15:17:08 the base class basically 2012-03-05T15:17:15 in python3, everything inherits from it in a tree 2012-03-05T15:17:22 there's no difference between a class and a type 2012-03-05T15:17:50 in python2, a class that inherits from object is a type (otherwise the instances just have the type 'instance') 2012-03-05T15:18:13 so in python2 is there a change when you explicitely subclass 'object'? 2012-03-05T15:18:17 yes 2012-03-05T15:18:22 ok 2012-03-05T15:18:29 you're actually supposed to do it for all classes 2012-03-05T15:18:43 ive never seen that 2012-03-05T15:18:54 (not that i should have, but ive seen some classes) 2012-03-05T15:18:58 libraries do it, but most users of the language don't know about it 2012-03-05T15:19:10 ofc in python3 it doesn't do anything since all classes are objects/types 2012-03-05T15:20:11 you should inherit from object explicitly in python2 2012-03-05T15:20:23 yeah 2012-03-05T15:21:12 *** kire has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-03-05T15:21:17 otherwise you get awful errors about how you can't do things to "classobj" 2012-03-05T15:26:21 thestinger: couple days ago sprunge was down right? 2012-03-05T15:26:37 i tried pasting, but i didnt get the link back 2012-03-05T15:29:25 not sure 2012-03-05T15:29:50 http://ompldr.org/vY2py I would just use that instead 2012-03-05T15:30:17 what is 'test'? 2012-03-05T15:30:21 lolz 2012-03-05T15:31:16 just did echo test | ompload 2012-03-05T15:31:43 sorry, i was joking 2012-03-05T15:31:57 thats what i tried to signify with ;lolz; 2012-03-05T15:32:06 * thestinger feels stupid now 2012-03-05T15:32:59 ok, i have their script now 2012-03-05T15:33:12 they support file uploads, thats nice 2012-03-05T15:33:33 but i already use imgur for images 2012-03-05T15:33:49 hm 2012-03-05T15:33:59 you can upload random binary files or whatever to ompldr though 2012-03-05T15:34:11 i wonder when will they seize their domain 2012-03-05T15:35:12 honestly, those american authorities use way much falcons in the insignias 2012-03-05T15:35:15 it's run by someone who uses the nick omp on freenode and they're often in #archlinux-offtopic, so everyone there uses it 2012-03-05T15:35:20 way too much* 2012-03-05T15:35:35 half the images are freebsd and archlinux screenshots 2012-03-05T15:35:40 oh 2012-03-05T15:35:47 btw, i was talking about megaupload 2012-03-05T15:35:54 did you see the notice? 2012-03-05T15:36:07 yeah, it's been in the news 2012-03-05T15:36:32 they took it down _before_ the trial 2012-03-05T15:36:39 haha 2012-03-05T15:36:47 and it was based out of new zealand 2012-03-05T15:36:51 but somehow the US got it taken down 2012-03-05T15:37:06 and the people who ran it are on trial in new zealand now 2012-03-05T15:38:34 i just read an article about the ;alleged' hacker, that german guy 2012-03-05T15:39:09 it seems the EU reconsideres acta 2012-03-05T15:39:19 stupid politicians 2012-03-05T15:39:26 hm 2012-03-05T15:39:30 that came out wrong 2012-03-05T15:39:44 they are stupid cause they were considering legislating it 2012-03-05T15:40:09 anyway, omploader cannot deal with arch's current kernel 2012-03-05T15:40:26 mabe it is too big 2012-03-05T15:40:28 y 2012-03-05T15:42:54 there's a 1GiB limit now 2012-03-05T15:42:57 used to be bigger 2012-03-05T15:43:03 kernel is 3mbs 2012-03-05T15:43:05 error: curl failed to return a response uploading 'piped data' 2012-03-05T15:43:11 for any piped binary data 2012-03-05T15:43:15 :( 2012-03-05T15:43:26 mcstar: how did you try uploading? 2012-03-05T15:43:27 i cant dd some urandom up to omp 2012-03-05T15:43:40 dd if=/dev/urandom count=100 | ompload 2012-03-05T15:43:44 hm 2012-03-05T15:43:54 with text its ok 2012-03-05T15:44:09 http://ompldr.org/vY3kwbQ 2012-03-05T15:48:08 mcstar: not sure why 2012-03-05T15:48:38 mcstar: the site might be broken atm 2012-03-05T15:48:42 it's been going up and down 2012-03-05T15:50:39 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-03-05T15:51:30 mcstar: realized that it's just totally broken with old-style classes 2012-03-05T15:51:40 not sure why they included this misfeature at all 2012-03-05T15:51:46 I can't excuse it by saying it's for sorting now 2012-03-05T15:51:59 does it matter? 2012-03-05T15:52:01 http://sprunge.us/FjfI 2012-03-05T15:52:06 python is duck-taped 2012-03-05T15:52:07 so glad they removed that from the language 2012-03-05T15:52:20 mcstar: look at that, it's awful 2012-03-05T15:52:49 lol 2012-03-05T15:52:57 mcstar: it still matters, it raises an exception in python3 like it should 2012-03-05T15:53:03 thestinger: pls, move from your location immediately, you are living in a radioactively highly contaminated area 2012-03-05T15:53:07 for the same reason 1 + "cat" raises one 2012-03-05T15:53:11 or you define the appropriate __lt__ methods! 2012-03-05T15:53:23 yeah 2012-03-05T15:53:29 really not sure why python2 does this 2012-03-05T15:53:55 quak 2012-03-05T15:54:04 ah 2012-03-05T15:54:16 with new-style classes they are compared with lexicographic sort order (of the type name) 2012-03-05T15:54:25 with old-style classes? no idea wtf is going on... 2012-03-05T15:54:51 maybe the reason is, that the two classes are really really close to each other, and thermal fluctuations cause the one to be bigger than the other 2012-03-05T15:55:56 so no surprise there, you should just have to take an ensemble-average, like statistical physics teaches us 2012-03-05T15:56:33 maybe pickling can explain it somehow 2012-03-05T15:57:00 who is he? 2012-03-05T15:57:05 lolz 2012-03-05T15:57:12 Mr Python Pickling 2012-03-05T15:57:33 mcstar: pickling is serialization in python (not just for data) 2012-03-05T15:57:37 i know 2012-03-05T15:57:42 anyway 2012-03-05T15:58:02 *** kilae has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]) 2012-03-05T15:58:03 thestinger: you have a quite an analytical mind, you should do science and experiment with 'real' things 2012-03-05T15:58:31 mcstar: I used to think I wanted to do that 2012-03-05T15:58:46 used to? you are still young 2012-03-05T15:58:57 true 2012-03-05T16:04:24 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2012-03-05T16:08:52 *** iglo has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T16:10:14 *** raemde has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T16:11:43 *** scribble has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T16:14:35 *** raemde has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-03-05T16:18:04 *** GarfTop has quit IRC (Quit: Make a new plan, Stan!) 2012-03-05T16:19:10 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T16:20:50 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T16:21:52 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-03-05T16:22:22 *** foRei has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T16:25:51 *** kurnevsky1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-03-05T16:53:55 *** choas has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2012-03-05T16:58:43 *** iglo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-03-05T17:00:24 *** flowenol has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T17:20:57 *** Palmik has quit IRC () 2012-03-05T17:33:49 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T17:33:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2012-03-05T17:35:24 *** raluxgaza has joined #aichallenge 2012-03-05T17:35:34 Hey guys anyone playing? 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