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2012-04-12T07:34:58 You IRC 2012-04-12T07:35:47 mcstar: i get that :P 2012-04-12T07:35:55 i'm intrigued though 2012-04-12T07:35:58 i want to know what it means 2012-04-12T07:36:28 Hmmmh 2012-04-12T07:37:06 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T07:37:38 I guess it encodes a single character in a set of three .... symbols 2012-04-12T07:37:45 5 symbols... 2012-04-12T07:40:01 maybe they map it to ascii 2012-04-12T07:40:06 let's see 2012-04-12T07:41:22 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2012-04-12T07:41:51 antimatroid: these simple cyphers can be broken by letter frequencies 2012-04-12T07:42:09 thats what pairofdice tried to say 2012-04-12T07:44:19 well 5*5*5 is close to 7 bits 2012-04-12T07:44:31 and that is the original ascii 2012-04-12T07:44:47 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T07:44:52 i would try to break by space 2012-04-12T07:45:04 since thats the most frequent character 2012-04-12T07:45:17 or 'e' if there are not too many words 2012-04-12T07:45:36 it is just 23 characters long after all 2012-04-12T07:45:40 only ... repeats 2012-04-12T07:45:58 yeah 2012-04-12T07:46:07 but you dont start with space 2012-04-12T07:46:10 of and _s_ 2012-04-12T07:46:15 oh* 2012-04-12T07:46:26 s=square 2012-04-12T07:46:36 yeah 2012-04-12T07:46:45 that could be space 2012-04-12T07:47:21 I don't know, there being not many repeats is fishy 2012-04-12T07:47:34 oh! __s 2012-04-12T07:47:58 what? 2012-04-12T07:48:05 shit 2012-04-12T07:48:07 that too 2012-04-12T07:48:11 and ._. 2012-04-12T07:48:14 noway 2012-04-12T07:48:23 so blind 2012-04-12T07:48:37 damn 2012-04-12T07:48:46 but that underscore is a bit up 2012-04-12T07:48:58 my recognition software is too precise 2012-04-12T07:49:16 ill set a bigger variance 2012-04-12T07:50:10 But if it's Klingon or something this gets a lot harder 2012-04-12T07:51:10 why? 2012-04-12T07:51:23 it becomes easier 2012-04-12T07:51:30 they use a lot of ` 2012-04-12T07:51:34 ' 2012-04-12T07:51:58 anyway, i started programming 2012-04-12T07:52:17 * antimatroid got sick of it :P 2012-04-12T07:52:25 i am curious on an answer though 2012-04-12T08:04:35 would be easier if the message was longer 2012-04-12T08:05:23 ok, it is digitized 2012-04-12T08:06:09 '[0, 76, 45, 10, 5, 105, 0, 1, 46, 35, 15, 5, 34, 44, 3, 19, 46, 91, 122, 34, 26, 29, 84]' 2012-04-12T08:06:36 fuck, now it is shining 2012-04-12T08:09:57 n luck 2012-04-12T08:09:59 no 2012-04-12T08:10:14 i tried all ascii encodings 2012-04-12T08:10:46 what is it? 2012-04-12T08:10:53 nothing 2012-04-12T08:10:53 this comes close: '#oP-(\x8c#$QF2(EO&6Q~\x9dE=@w' 2012-04-12T08:11:06 almost intelligibel 2012-04-12T08:11:37 ill refine my encoding 2012-04-12T08:22:14 QUAK 2012-04-12T08:22:53 it's a secret message from a duck? 2012-04-12T08:23:02 XD 2012-04-12T08:27:12 *** kurnevsky has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T08:27:51 *** mviel__ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T08:30:23 *** mviel has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T08:30:35 *** Chris_0076 has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T08:31:41 *** mviel_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-04-12T08:32:21 *** mviel__ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-04-12T08:35:23 *** mleise1 has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T08:36:45 *** mleise has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-04-12T08:39:24 i broke python 2012-04-12T08:39:59 how did you manage that? 2012-04-12T08:40:52 maybe python broke my console 2012-04-12T08:41:07 it became unresponsive in the middle of printing something 2012-04-12T08:41:20 urxvt? 2012-04-12T08:41:26 i killed all my python instances, and it didnt change 2012-04-12T08:41:26 it freezes for me when I print really long lines 2012-04-12T08:41:34 it is terminal 2012-04-12T08:41:34 and killing stuff doesn't work 2012-04-12T08:41:45 maybe it is based on rxvt 2012-04-12T08:41:54 no 2012-04-12T08:41:55 the xfce one? 2012-04-12T08:41:56 lxterminal 2012-04-12T08:41:59 oh 2012-04-12T08:42:14 ah, vte-based :P 2012-04-12T08:42:22 crappy gnome technologies! 2012-04-12T08:42:50 i use konsole 2012-04-12T08:42:59 but changed to this lxterminal couple of dyas ago 2012-04-12T08:43:07 seems im gonna change back 2012-04-12T08:44:41 radix trees look like a fun thing to implement 2012-04-12T08:44:49 tries* 2012-04-12T08:44:50 thestinger: how can i make a closure in python, but with global function binding? 2012-04-12T08:45:15 can i nest def? 2012-04-12T08:45:18 yes 2012-04-12T08:45:35 check out the nonlocal keyword too (was added in python3), you need that for proper closures 2012-04-12T08:45:58 at least for mutable captured vars 2012-04-12T08:46:14 :( not working 2012-04-12T08:47:36 nested defs turn my brain to goo 2012-04-12T08:47:51 it is commonplace in scheme 2012-04-12T08:47:56 but doesnt seem to work here 2012-04-12T08:47:58 it's common in python too 2012-04-12T08:48:11 mcstar: http://sprunge.us/QJQA 2012-04-12T08:48:23 but python lambda doest support multiple expressions 2012-04-12T08:48:38 don't use the lambda keyword :P 2012-04-12T08:48:39 it sucks 2012-04-12T08:49:00 f = lambda x: 5 2012-04-12T08:49:01 thestinger: imagine the same paste, but i import it from a module 2012-04-12T08:49:18 the inner function? 2012-04-12T08:49:56 the definition is in a file, that i import from the toplevel 2012-04-12T08:50:18 and now when i call my assigned function, it doesnt find it, cause of the module name 2012-04-12T08:50:36 show me an example 2012-04-12T08:51:05 just like yourpaste.. 2012-04-12T08:51:13 this works when I import it somewhere else 2012-04-12T08:52:12 http://sprunge.us/DIVR 2012-04-12T08:53:37 global name 'cip' is not defined 2012-04-12T08:53:46 when cip is the filename 2012-04-12T08:54:50 ahk 2012-04-12T08:54:58 i think it is coming from the same file 2012-04-12T08:55:23 thestinger: ok, works 2012-04-12T08:55:34 i had cip.somefun calls in my code 2012-04-12T08:55:40 (i pasted it from the toplevel) 2012-04-12T08:55:47 ah 2012-04-12T08:59:32 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T08:59:32 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2012-04-12T09:00:57 *** dici has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-04-12T09:02:29 OnFrizur 2012-04-12T09:04:28 hm 2012-04-12T09:04:34 sometimes the decoding looks like perl 2012-04-12T09:04:36 or J 2012-04-12T09:05:24 look at this: /`%4*u/.$*#1<$j i think this is a correct J sentence 2012-04-12T09:06:08 i think it get input from a stream, filters add number from it, and produces all the cmbinations of them, and sorts them 2012-04-12T09:06:26 (from my little J experience thats what i conclude) 2012-04-12T09:06:37 add->odd 2012-04-12T09:08:52 o_o 2012-04-12T09:11:50 *** mleise1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-04-12T09:25:01 im getting tired 2012-04-12T09:35:26 thestinger: now konsole gave up 2012-04-12T09:35:33 urxvt! 2012-04-12T09:35:54 just need to turn off the absolutely hideous scrollbar and it's great 2012-04-12T09:35:55 i dont know where i was 2012-04-12T09:36:29 i must have checked 50x256 possibilities i think 2012-04-12T09:40:41 lol... coursera needs to fix their video player 2012-04-12T09:40:57 I "watched" 5 minutes of video wondering why he wasn't writing anything 2012-04-12T09:41:09 then I realized it was playing audio and moving the progress bar but not rendering the video... 2012-04-12T09:41:22 urxvt sucks 2012-04-12T09:41:37 everything else sucks more 2012-04-12T09:41:39 after each print a get a bunch of characters on the input line 2012-04-12T09:41:43 i* 2012-04-12T09:41:50 and i must press enter 2012-04-12T09:42:00 with console, that very rarely happened 2012-04-12T09:42:20 ah, c-w works 2012-04-12T09:59:37 *** coius__ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T10:02:07 *** kurnevsky has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-04-12T10:02:33 *** coeus_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-04-12T10:04:32 i failed at decoding that damn message 2012-04-12T10:04:42 antimatroid: are you sure it is terrestrial in origina? 2012-04-12T10:04:44 -a 2012-04-12T10:06:37 *** Cyndre has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T10:07:53 *** kurnevsky has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T10:15:13 *** kurnevsky has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-04-12T10:17:33 *** Areks has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2012-04-12T10:20:23 *** kurnevsky has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T10:23:53 *** smiley1983 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2012-04-12T10:32:03 80018147048929689600000L 2012-04-12T10:32:09 yeah, guy is correct 2012-04-12T10:32:16 thats why i tried ascii first 2012-04-12T10:32:29 cause then you have like 32k possibilities 2012-04-12T10:32:33 but thats a no go 2012-04-12T10:33:58 ? 2012-04-12T10:34:08 what? 2012-04-12T10:35:47 Did you try the 125 permutations of the symbols 2012-04-12T10:36:45 120* 2012-04-12T10:36:50 yes 2012-04-12T10:37:06 i interpreted as a base 5 number 2012-04-12T10:37:11 yeah 2012-04-12T10:37:20 and tried all 256 offsets 2012-04-12T10:37:26 so thats 256*120 2012-04-12T10:37:48 and i sorted by how many characters fall into 'A'..'z' 2012-04-12T10:37:59 *** dapplegate has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T10:38:29 And nothing? 2012-04-12T10:38:39 but if you interpret the cipher, as 19 different symbols, any one of which can stand for any of the 26 letters, you get 26!/(26-19)! 2012-04-12T10:38:43 nothing 2012-04-12T10:38:48 I guess it needs heavier weaponry 2012-04-12T10:39:09 coursera crypto homework? 2012-04-12T10:39:21 i haven't been keeping up with that one 2012-04-12T10:39:40 no 2012-04-12T10:39:45 random reddit post from antimatroid 2012-04-12T10:39:59 a1k0n: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/s5jgb/can_you_break_this_code/ 2012-04-12T10:40:15 crypto is much more easy XD 2012-04-12T10:40:23 easier* 2012-04-12T10:40:43 cs373 exam was too easy 2012-04-12T10:40:53 pairofdice: no kidding 2012-04-12T10:41:08 pgm-class.org OTOH is a pain in the ass 2012-04-12T10:41:27 the description sounded good 2012-04-12T10:42:02 udacity's site is very weird. 2012-04-12T10:44:50 the cs373 was waaaaay too easy/boring 2012-04-12T10:44:50 pairofdice: macburger has a good idea 2012-04-12T10:44:53 *** mviel_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T10:44:56 cs373 exam* 2012-04-12T10:45:40 i'm kind of glad it was easy cuz i had to do it in the hour before it was due 2012-04-12T10:45:43 a1k0n: I'm loving the coursera algo class 2012-04-12T10:45:56 these UTC deadlines are killing me 2012-04-12T10:45:59 glad mcstar convinced me to do it :) 2012-04-12T10:46:08 did i? 2012-04-12T10:46:11 yes 2012-04-12T10:46:18 with pgm i don't really have time for any other class 2012-04-12T10:46:21 i thought i convinced you to take crypto 2012-04-12T10:46:31 thestinger: youre right 2012-04-12T10:46:33 mcstar: you told me about crypto and I started it, but you had to convince me to do the algo 2012-04-12T10:46:39 you were choosing between this and udacity 2012-04-12T10:46:55 a1k0n: the cs101 exam was harder 2012-04-12T10:47:13 had to implement levenshtein distance and some other stuff 2012-04-12T10:47:19 nice 2012-04-12T10:47:29 those were the "starred" questions though 2012-04-12T10:47:35 they were basically bonus questions :P 2012-04-12T10:48:14 i even got the starred question on the cs373 exam right after taking a quick guess, to my surprise 2012-04-12T10:48:18 cs101 was actually a great course, I've been suggesting it to lots of people 2012-04-12T10:48:23 *** mviel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-04-12T10:48:55 way too easy if you know how to program though :) 2012-04-12T10:48:58 wow it starts again on monday 2012-04-12T10:54:00 *** UncleVasya has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T10:59:25 *** kilae has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 11.0/20120312181643]) 2012-04-12T11:15:22 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-04-12T11:16:51 *** mviel__ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T11:20:36 *** mviel_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-04-12T11:23:54 *** mviel__ is now known as mviel 2012-04-12T11:41:17 *** kilae has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T12:18:29 *** iglo has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T12:18:47 *** Palmik has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T12:59:51 *** mviel_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T13:00:25 *** smiley1983 has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T13:03:23 *** mviel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-04-12T13:14:42 *** iglo has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-04-12T13:15:16 *** pairofdice has quit IRC (Quit: It is time for you to leave) 2012-04-12T13:15:16 *** dici has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T13:15:19 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC () 2012-04-12T13:53:02 *** cyphase has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2012-04-12T13:54:53 *** Dici_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T13:54:54 *** dici has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) 2012-04-12T13:54:57 *** Dici_ is now known as dici 2012-04-12T14:08:58 *** cyphase has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T15:14:52 *** mviel__ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T15:18:56 *** mviel_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-04-12T15:24:32 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7) 2012-04-12T15:26:45 *** iglo has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T15:31:53 *** lorill has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-12T15:33:59 hi, has the new game been selected yet ? 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