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2012-04-20T12:09:26 good evening 2012-04-20T12:09:40 yes, the impossible slowness 2012-04-20T12:15:32 mleise: wanna share it? 2012-04-20T12:15:52 i have dmd, but couldnt build dsss and gtkd 2012-04-20T12:16:10 what was the timout of the binary you sent me? 2012-04-20T12:16:53 0ms 2012-04-20T12:17:14 oh, than that was really slow 2012-04-20T12:17:21 i thouhgt like 300ms 2012-04-20T12:17:43 no, 150-200 2012-04-20T12:17:43 i sent you a new one 2012-04-20T12:19:28 btw you don't need dsss to build gtkd. it works with make 2012-04-20T12:20:38 in readme they REALLY recommended it 2012-04-20T12:20:45 (in allcaps) 2012-04-20T12:20:54 well i didn't use it :p 2012-04-20T12:21:30 nice 2012-04-20T12:21:53 in qt you can only paint in a paintEvent 2012-04-20T12:22:27 it really hadnt occure to me that the same thing should apply 2012-04-20T12:22:45 i mean you relly cannot paint on widgets outside of paintEvent 2012-04-20T12:23:01 btw, keyboard repetition is gone 2012-04-20T12:23:12 i can press anykeys down, and it wont repeat 2012-04-20T12:23:25 Gtk3 has changed the behavoir, you can paint any time 2012-04-20T12:23:52 oh that setting is either in you Gnome settings or in Xorg, if you use xdm solely 2012-04-20T12:24:03 *your 2012-04-20T12:24:22 it never happened before 2012-04-20T12:24:42 strange. there should be a default that works well 2012-04-20T12:24:43 anyway, what do you want to do now? 2012-04-20T12:24:51 watch tv 2012-04-20T12:25:01 i mean with the code 2012-04-20T12:25:09 do you want to add things to it, or let it bitrot 2012-04-20T12:25:33 what should i add to it'? 2012-04-20T12:25:41 it's your program :) 2012-04-20T12:25:43 colliding monkeys 2012-04-20T12:26:44 mleise: if asteroids will be a go, i think maybe i could make a debugging or local tool out of it 2012-04-20T12:27:27 btw, there is some Asteroids AI on the internet 2012-04-20T12:34:23 i will beat them 2012-04-20T12:34:38 to a pulp 2012-04-20T12:36:18 *** pairofdice has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T12:37:14 antimatroid: here you go http://xpilot-ai.org/ 2012-04-20T12:38:07 i think it is just a framework to write xpilot ai in it 2012-04-20T12:38:14 but im not completely sure 2012-04-20T12:38:25 but wheres a framework, theres a ... 2012-04-20T12:38:34 something written with it 2012-04-20T12:41:19 Another day full of furniture haulage, I quit! 2012-04-20T12:42:50 Ah ríght, I was going to perform experiments for the crypto challenge 2012-04-20T12:42:53 moving somewhere? 2012-04-20T12:43:10 what crypto challange? 2012-04-20T12:43:17 udacity 2012-04-20T12:43:34 My mom, she'll probably move again within the year, arrg 2012-04-20T12:43:45 Everybody, stay put! 2012-04-20T12:45:35 mcstar, hi. I missed a link to your program, can you repeat it? 2012-04-20T12:45:43 UncleVasya: hey! 2012-04-20T12:45:48 how are you? 2012-04-20T12:46:19 which one do you want? 2012-04-20T12:46:39 The one you are talking about. 2012-04-20T12:46:41 there is a version, which is a bit broken, but has nice colliding balls 2012-04-20T12:46:54 I don't even know what is that :) 2012-04-20T12:46:55 and the other has squares and trianlges 2012-04-20T12:47:11 ill paste the balls 2012-04-20T12:47:50 tired because of my study place. Not because studying is hard (it isn't) but because it eats a lot of time. 2012-04-20T12:48:33 eats? 2012-04-20T12:48:47 ok, you can not be boring with providing a link, just tell me in few words what is your program. 2012-04-20T12:49:05 UncleVasya: i have to fix something, it doesnt compile 2012-04-20T12:49:26 i removed something, which mleise knows wha it is, the creation of pixbufs 2012-04-20T12:49:40 UncleVasya: nothing serious, really, just visual candy 2012-04-20T12:50:08 ok, that's enough for me. 2012-04-20T12:50:12 UncleVasya: ill link a video 2012-04-20T12:51:06 UncleVasya: http://liquid-phynix.minus.com/ml6Gvc55x/ 2012-04-20T12:54:51 by 'eats' I mean that the time I must waste for being present on lessons is cost way more than a gain from these lessons. I do regret about this time but for some reasons I must be present on every lesson. 2012-04-20T12:54:59 *** replore__ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T12:56:17 *** kurnevsky1 has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T12:56:27 Also during Ants I met someone here. Unfortunelly, not a girl :D But a guy from Russia who offered me a job in Delphi. 2012-04-20T12:56:35 *I've met 2012-04-20T12:56:49 *** kurnevsky has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-04-20T12:57:06 *** replore has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2012-04-20T12:57:06 "Also during Ants I met someone here. Unfortunelly, not a girl, but what the hell, you know" 2012-04-20T12:57:09 girls don't code. 2012-04-20T12:57:32 UncleVasya: glad that you have income 2012-04-20T12:57:33 well I have met 3 total 2012-04-20T12:57:36 that code 2012-04-20T12:57:37 He had idea but had no time to make this project alnoe, neither money to hire some professional. 2012-04-20T12:58:01 *alone 2012-04-20T12:58:38 *** NoxiaZ^ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-04-20T12:59:20 So we we work together. Well, because of study-place I worked only a week in January :( 2012-04-20T13:00:53 Yesterday checked e-mail box and was very pleased with Jeff's message about top 100 :) 2012-04-20T13:01:24 Have I answered on 'how are you'? 2012-04-20T13:02:18 yeah 2012-04-20T13:02:22 UncleVasya: glad that you have income thanks! 2012-04-20T13:03:05 girls don't code. 2 my friends are in love with girls-programmers :) 2012-04-20T13:05:01 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T13:05:09 but you have 200 programmer friends 2012-04-20T13:05:58 mcstar: I got cling to build :) 2012-04-20T13:06:08 yay for the stinger 2012-04-20T13:06:15 *cling* 2012-04-20T13:06:47 what is cling? 2012-04-20T13:06:51 XD 2012-04-20T13:07:02 REPL and JIT compiler based on clang+llvm 2012-04-20T13:07:05 seems to be related to clang 2012-04-20T13:07:12 oh 2012-04-20T13:07:40 if it want a repl, i would go with lisp 2012-04-20T13:08:00 nice for trying things out 2012-04-20T13:08:05 you can dynamically link libs, etc. 2012-04-20T13:08:26 thestinger: i feel that you have a great affection to C and derivatives 2012-04-20T13:09:59 mcstar: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/mEOEM0X7oRNXuCIYXlLh/ :P 2012-04-20T13:10:18 I haven't figured out how to make it do C yet, or run files 2012-04-20T13:10:29 docs are still pretty bad 2012-04-20T13:10:34 no man page even... 2012-04-20T13:11:26 thestinger: i dont deny this could be useful 2012-04-20T13:11:28 mcstar, still playing with Haskell? 2012-04-20T13:11:37 UncleVasya: more than ever 2012-04-20T13:12:22 is it for work now? 2012-04-20T13:12:28 no 2012-04-20T13:12:32 the only problem is that I can't get it tobuild _again_ 2012-04-20T13:14:11 I tried to show a will power and not to ask this... but I can't: is there some info about aichallenge that I can't read on forums? 2012-04-20T13:15:22 UncleVasya: countless blogs 2012-04-20T13:15:38 I've decided that next time I'll have a time to try something new I'll start learning QT. 2012-04-20T13:15:48 dejavu 2012-04-20T13:15:50 dejavu 2012-04-20T13:15:55 did you say this before? 2012-04-20T13:16:03 and didnt i write 2x dejavu in response? 2012-04-20T13:16:04 no 2012-04-20T13:16:06 mcstar: I think he's you 2012-04-20T13:16:08 noway 2012-04-20T13:16:08 from the past 2012-04-20T13:16:13 thestinger: lol 2012-04-20T13:16:15 *** mviel_ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2012-04-20T13:16:55 heheh, so you are looking at qt too :) 2012-04-20T13:17:01 I need to do some kind of voodoo incantations to get this to build again 2012-04-20T13:17:57 UncleVasya: i told you, i have some work when i do qt, yes 2012-04-20T13:18:11 i very much hope, that this weekend i can finish it 2012-04-20T13:18:37 wait wtf... cling has been making a .cling_history file in every dir I've run it in 2012-04-20T13:18:40 >.< 2012-04-20T13:18:43 not 'when' 2012-04-20T13:18:48 I have watched a video. Looks like billiard :p 2012-04-20T13:19:44 UncleVasya: yeah, some odd kind of billiard, anyway, the purpose of the code was to test rendering based collision detection, i.e. by detecting pixel overlapping 2012-04-20T13:20:02 s 2012-04-20T13:20:34 so you don't need to have a map representation in your code? 2012-04-20T13:20:49 mleise: the other pixmap leaks space too, the big one 2012-04-20T13:21:26 this is the scariest PKGBUILD ever 2012-04-20T13:21:29 :\ 2012-04-20T13:21:54 UncleVasya: map? it could handle any shapes, not just circles(which are easy to detect collisions on_ 2012-04-20T13:21:56 ) 2012-04-20T13:22:39 thestinger: did you know theres a cabal2arch tool, that converts cabal build files into PKGBUILDs? 2012-04-20T13:22:48 yeah 2012-04-20T13:22:52 :( 2012-04-20T13:22:53 MrElendig told me it sucked 2012-04-20T13:23:00 that's all I know about it :P 2012-04-20T13:23:09 thestinger: you are impossible to tell news to 2012-04-20T13:23:26 at least archlinux news since I'm in #archlinux and #archlinux-offtopic :P 2012-04-20T13:23:46 that explains it, i dont go near arch community 2012-04-20T13:24:00 (i mean i didnt need to, except once or twice) 2012-04-20T13:24:20 thestinger: the wiki is superb 2012-04-20T13:24:47 * thestinger is a wiki admin :) 2012-04-20T13:24:54 oh 2012-04-20T13:25:30 you've probably read stuff I wrote 2012-04-20T13:25:37 well, you have 2012-04-20T13:25:44 yeah, what/ 2012-04-20T13:25:54 Number of edits:9,069 lots? :P 2012-04-20T13:26:06 a big chunk of the beginners' guide for one 2012-04-20T13:26:28 i guess thats a great number? 2012-04-20T13:26:39 lots was trivial though 2012-04-20T13:26:42 adding categories, etc. 2012-04-20T13:27:20 That's a lot of edits. And the arch beginners' guide is awesome! 2012-04-20T13:28:13 mcstar: my motivation for editing was basically disgust at first, the beginners' guide used to be ~10x bigger 2012-04-20T13:28:30 told people how to install gnome, set up custom whatever for $WINDOW_MANAGER, etc. 2012-04-20T13:28:46 i cant remember reading, it but probably cause i didnt need to read it twice 2012-04-20T13:28:49 good work 2012-04-20T13:29:26 it is much better to write it down once, than always help out ppl with little bits 2012-04-20T13:29:40 yeah 2012-04-20T13:29:48 thestinger: do you maintain packages too? 2012-04-20T13:29:57 just AUR ones, I'm not a TU (yet :P) 2012-04-20T13:30:10 i had 1 aur package 2012-04-20T13:30:25 they deleted it some time ago, with 'useless' comment 2012-04-20T13:30:34 heh 2012-04-20T13:31:10 I don't think I'll ever get cling to build again 2012-04-20T13:31:15 thestinger: i patched kdeworkspace to support 'tile windows of active application' by using electric corners 2012-04-20T13:31:49 mcstar: the deletion process is basically 1) someone sends mail to aur-general mailing list 2) they delete it 2012-04-20T13:32:09 i think i got an email or something 2012-04-20T13:32:16 happened some time ago, cant remember 2012-04-20T13:33:06 most of my aur packages are things that can't be in the repos 2012-04-20T13:34:08 android-sdk, nessus, metasploit, a patched version of urxvt, git/svn packages 2012-04-20T13:34:45 well if I wasted a day figuring out how to compile the android sdk from source... (not going to happen) 2012-04-20T13:34:53 ah hacker tool 2012-04-20T13:35:11 mcstar: well, nessus is closed source and you can't redistribute it 2012-04-20T13:35:47 metasploit is an svn package, and it's a huge pile of source code - you check it out from svn and that's it 2012-04-20T13:36:09 android SDK can't be redistributed unless you build it yourself afaik, etc. 2012-04-20T13:37:54 and cling is apparently never going to build again 2012-04-20T13:39:33 *** meem1029 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-04-20T13:40:58 i reached constant space nirvana 2012-04-20T13:41:12 X resources stays constant i.e. 2012-04-20T13:44:16 mcstar: I was running. Yes the big pixmap leaks as well, noticed that when I disabled the color checking code 2012-04-20T13:44:32 mleise: its alright now 2012-04-20T13:44:43 somehow with recent updates my linux became more responsive when it starts to swap out 2012-04-20T13:44:53 earlier I was pretty much doomed 2012-04-20T13:45:23 i recorved some excessive swapping thanks to a real virtual terminal 2012-04-20T13:45:28 from* 2012-04-20T13:45:40 it happened with Mathematica 2012-04-20T13:46:06 mleise: whoa, my code is actually slow 2012-04-20T13:46:26 with a few objects it very smooth fast, with many, it is slow, and jaggy 2012-04-20T13:46:44 now slow again 2012-04-20T13:46:45 wtf 2012-04-20T13:47:01 a job in Delphi, UncleVasya. That's great. The weather and the landscape are wonderful in Greece 2012-04-20T13:47:16 XD 2012-04-20T13:47:25 is this an insider joke? 2012-04-20T13:50:35 mcstar: tell me you know the oracle of Delphi! 2012-04-20T13:50:53 i know the Oracle from the matrix 2012-04-20T13:50:55 I've been at her temple, where she resided in a basement 2012-04-20T13:51:01 what? making UIs for oracle dbs in delphi? 2012-04-20T13:51:02 *** kurnevsky has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T13:51:24 *** kurnevsky1 has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-04-20T13:51:30 It's neat place with a market at the entrance of the village and a theatre on the hill side 2012-04-20T13:51:50 mleise: you like computer languages that has to do places? delphi, mars? 2012-04-20T13:52:06 with* 2012-04-20T13:52:06 hehe, yea. i need a reality link 2012-04-20T13:52:33 anyway I tested my code for memory leaks as well while I was away. Everything fine and avg. 2,75962 ms per frame (362,368 FPS) :D 2012-04-20T13:52:55 These old Core2 are still good for something 2012-04-20T13:53:39 for you Americans: the , is a . 2012-04-20T13:54:00 i hate , as decimal separator 2012-04-20T13:54:20 (in handwriting it is ok) 2012-04-20T13:54:29 In D we write 1_000_000 for one million. It's very helpful 2012-04-20T13:55:06 in lisp we write #| this is a perfectly &**% valid indetifier|# 2012-04-20T13:55:24 XD 2012-04-20T13:55:30 you are right about that. especially with software you never know which uses formatting that is ignorant to locale settings 2012-04-20T13:56:09 then you type 123.123 in gcalc and it just stares at you in disbelief 2012-04-20T13:57:42 in D we can use any letters from the Unicode sets, like پٿڀځڂڃڄڅچڇڈډ or ℕ 2012-04-20T13:58:16 space? 2012-04-20T13:58:19 KÅℬℭ℮ℯℰℱΩ or ໑໒໓໔໕໖໗໘ 2012-04-20T13:58:29 no spaces, that would totally fuck up the parser 2012-04-20T13:58:40 lisp won 2012-04-20T13:58:42 EOD 2012-04-20T13:59:02 XD 2012-04-20T13:59:02 lol it obviously supports less different characters 2012-04-20T13:59:26 the number of possible 3 letter acronyms is strongly reduced in lisp 2012-04-20T14:00:27 what do you mean? 2012-04-20T14:00:54 D has maybe 10000^3, lisp has 30^3 2012-04-20T14:01:03 possible three letter identifiers 2012-04-20T14:01:04 btw, did you add a gtk timer? or used a ssytem timer? 2012-04-20T14:01:14 I used the gtk.Timer 2012-04-20T14:01:19 the good stuff 2012-04-20T14:01:40 mleise: i dont get it, what is reduced in practice? 2012-04-20T14:01:50 dont tell me you gain anything with unicode 2012-04-20T14:01:57 your keyboard is asciii 2012-04-20T14:02:00 iiiii 2012-04-20T14:02:11 oh well... that limitation. its just practical though 2012-04-20T14:02:19 pfff 2012-04-20T14:02:21 in theory you can have many more identifiers 2012-04-20T14:02:43 in theory, i could wait, until a thermodynamic fluctuation writes my program!!! 2012-04-20T14:02:52 :D 2012-04-20T14:03:29 Did you never want to write Δx = x2 - x1 ? 2012-04-20T14:03:45 or sin(α) ? 2012-04-20T14:05:05 :Delta: or :alpha: 2012-04-20T14:05:18 or házszám 2012-04-20T14:05:21 and yes, i usually do that in my code 2012-04-20T14:05:29 in my Mathematica code 2012-04-20T14:05:43 not in my c++/lisp/haskell/python code 2012-04-20T14:05:55 you know why? because it doesnt matter there 2012-04-20T14:06:12 (and i cant, in practice..) 2012-04-20T14:06:41 It is not a real feature of any programming language anyway 2012-04-20T14:07:16 but nice to have as long as you don't force others to copy&paste chars from a table :p 2012-04-20T14:07:24 in a CAS is is very useful, and well, a real CAS cant do without easy 2d math input/output 2012-04-20T14:08:11 I'll take a shower now, cook something and drink some beer while watching people try to sing karaoke 2012-04-20T14:08:19 XD 2012-04-20T14:08:29 first3 sounds fun 2012-04-20T14:09:54 well if I like the songs I often sing along, too. maybe i'll meet someone I know. 2012-04-20T14:46:40 *** delt0r_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-04-20T14:59:46 *** delt0r_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T15:01:06 *** choas has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T15:03:02 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2012-04-20T15:04:21 *** GarfTop has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T15:05:35 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: mcstar) 2012-04-20T15:06:56 *** Garf has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2012-04-20T15:18:38 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T15:22:41 *** pairofdice has quit IRC (Quit: It is time for you to leave) 2012-04-20T15:24:13 *** replore__ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-04-20T15:34:47 *** mleise has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-04-20T16:23:00 *** amstan has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 2012-04-20T16:28:20 *** AlliedEnvy_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T16:30:17 *** AlliedEnvy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-04-20T16:53:07 *** antimatroid has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-04-20T16:53:21 *** antimatroid has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T16:57:03 *** NoxiaZ^ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T16:57:35 *** kurnevsky has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-04-20T16:58:33 *** kurnevsky has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T17:04:48 *** Dici_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T17:04:48 *** dici has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) 2012-04-20T17:04:52 *** Dici_ is now known as dici 2012-04-20T17:07:25 *** choas has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2012-04-20T17:09:48 *** antimatroid has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2012-04-20T17:18:24 *** kurnevsky has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-04-20T17:22:32 *** NoxiaZ^ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-04-20T17:25:22 *** GarfTop has quit IRC (Quit: Make a new plan, Stan!) 2012-04-20T18:01:39 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-04-20T18:02:50 *** dici has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-04-20T18:10:15 *** Palmik has quit IRC () 2012-04-20T18:12:18 *** mceier has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2012-04-20T18:31:12 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T18:31:12 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2012-04-20T19:06:16 *** thestinger has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-04-20T19:06:17 *** JamesMG has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-04-20T19:06:41 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T19:11:39 *** JamesMG has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T19:31:36 *** replore_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T19:50:45 *** replore_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-04-20T19:59:25 *** replore has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T20:59:57 *** replore has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-04-20T21:06:17 *** replore_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T21:09:36 *** antimatroid has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T21:38:37 *** replore_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-04-20T22:46:38 *** delt0r_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-04-20T22:54:13 *** AndrewBC has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T23:00:38 *** delt0r_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-20T23:12:18 *** j3camero has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-04-20T23:17:44 *** j3camero has joined #aichallenge