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#aichallenge 2012-04-27T14:09:53 *** Vrexu has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T14:37:53 *** Vrexu has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-04-27T14:43:49 people should count on their hands in binary 2012-04-27T14:44:08 two left fingers up == 4 etc. 2012-04-27T14:44:14 3 sorry 2012-04-27T14:44:16 etc. 2012-04-27T14:44:21 1023, yes yes 2012-04-27T14:44:36 much larger counting range :D 2012-04-27T14:44:57 27 is kind of hard to do 2012-04-27T14:44:58 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T14:44:59 wow, that's just amazing! 2012-04-27T14:45:11 http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/sv4zx/how_come_the_base_10_system_is_so_easy_to_use/c4ha3ns 2012-04-27T14:45:16 that gave me the idea 2012-04-27T14:45:29 base 12 is easier 2012-04-27T14:45:40 not on your hands 2012-04-27T14:45:47 right 2012-04-27T14:45:49 your fingers have 2 obvious states too be in 2012-04-27T14:45:55 to* 2012-04-27T14:46:27 do the 132 , lol 2012-04-27T14:46:43 I'm doing the 8 at the screen :P 2012-04-27T14:46:49 i tried to teach binary finger counting on the train some months ago 2012-04-27T14:46:53 i dont think she got it 2012-04-27T14:47:04 ah to my mom 2012-04-27T14:47:18 "giving the 8 to someone" :)\ 2012-04-27T14:47:36 high 31! 2012-04-27T14:48:22 i guess that begs the question, should we be writing these numbers in base 10 or 2 2012-04-27T14:48:33 the middle finger is a 4 on my hand, strange 2012-04-27T14:48:37 hex 2012-04-27T14:48:47 high 0x1F ? no... 2012-04-27T14:49:23 it's almost 5am shhh :P 2012-04-27T14:49:37 what time it is, again? 2012-04-27T14:49:42 101 2012-04-27T14:49:44 ? 2012-04-27T14:49:46 *** X-Scale has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T14:49:48 :P 2012-04-27T14:50:12 101 base 2 2012-04-27T14:50:15 antimatroid: machine learning starts out boring 2012-04-27T14:50:26 i didn't even have time for pgm in the end 2012-04-27T14:50:46 i didnt even know you applied for that 2012-04-27T14:51:37 mleise: drop the base! 2012-04-27T14:51:55 *** delt0r_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-04-27T14:52:01 "As an extreme example, you can write a pure DrawTriangle() function that takes a framebuffer as a parameter and returns a completely new framebuffer with the triangle drawn into it as a result. Don’t do that." - J. Carmack about functional programming 2012-04-27T14:52:08 people apply for these courses? :P 2012-04-27T14:52:45 "don't be stupid" - J. Carmack 2012-04-27T14:53:09 he did some fast square root function 2012-04-27T14:53:20 well, not really he came up with it 2012-04-27T14:53:26 just used it in doom or whatnot 2012-04-27T14:53:41 is that the thing with that ridiculous hex value? 2012-04-27T14:53:44 and people were like wtf 2012-04-27T14:53:48 or was that quake 2012-04-27T14:53:49 the magic number yes 2012-04-27T14:54:04 im not sure doom or quake 2012-04-27T14:54:05 i remember reading about that before i'd ever programmed and going wtf 2012-04-27T14:54:40 mleise: did you get the joke? 2012-04-27T14:54:43 about the 'base'? 2012-04-27T14:55:44 no 2012-04-27T14:55:56 apparently there is an internet meme, where ppl drop the 'base' the ph>4.5 liquid, and it is supposed to be funny 2012-04-27T14:56:02 i think it has to do with music 2012-04-27T14:56:06 drum and base 2012-04-27T14:56:10 bass 2012-04-27T14:56:10 bass 2012-04-27T14:56:14 whatever 2012-04-27T14:56:27 Zannick: can you explain? 2012-04-27T14:56:33 ok, funny :-| 2012-04-27T14:56:37 :D 2012-04-27T14:57:03 "dropping the bass" is a term for a particular thing that happens in dubstep or brostep 2012-04-27T14:57:17 it's also a term for pooping 2012-04-27T14:57:22 meaning the cut it out? 2012-04-27T14:57:27 the->they 2012-04-27T14:57:34 basically right after a break in the music all the music comes back in suddenly with the bass on full 2012-04-27T14:57:55 ok, so dropping the base, is when it comes back 2012-04-27T14:57:57 thanks 2012-04-27T14:58:22 dropping the bass 2012-04-27T14:58:47 i feel like a total idiot 2012-04-27T14:59:12 why is this funny? and saying base instead if bass? 2012-04-27T14:59:25 base doesnt sound like bass at all 2012-04-27T14:59:59 they are pronounced the same 2012-04-27T15:00:12 mcstar: welcome to english lol 2012-04-27T15:00:20 bass the fish and bass the instrument are not pronounced the same 2012-04-27T15:00:46 isnt the fish brass? 2012-04-27T15:00:55 no it's bass 2012-04-27T15:01:00 ...no, brass is a metal alloy 2012-04-27T15:01:54 yeah 2012-04-27T15:02:02 i was just confused for a moment 2012-04-27T15:02:34 ok, my misunderstanding comes from not knowing the pronunciation of 'bass' 2012-04-27T15:03:51 damn, i love these moments of truth 2012-04-27T15:04:31 *** delt0r_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T15:04:44 so the instrument is spelled 'base' ??!?!?!?!? Oo 2012-04-27T15:04:48 yes 2012-04-27T15:04:51 wtf? 2012-04-27T15:04:55 not spelled 2012-04-27T15:04:56 why noone told me 2012-04-27T15:05:01 pronouinced 2012-04-27T15:05:06 almost 2012-04-27T15:05:09 lol 2012-04-27T15:05:12 dont be nitpicky 2012-04-27T15:06:26 fuck, they are right. i just checked the pronunciation on leo.org 2012-04-27T15:06:40 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T15:06:40 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2012-04-27T15:07:17 lol 2012-04-27T15:07:29 in hungarian, bass is 'basszus' which is said like 'bar' not 'beige' 2012-04-27T15:14:08 that was an interesting conversation to read as a native english speaker :P 2012-04-27T15:15:37 haha 2012-04-27T15:15:44 english really has a lot of dumb shit in it 2012-04-27T15:16:02 mleise: these cosmopolitans are making fun of us 2012-04-27T15:16:05 what's the point of rules if tons of words break them? 2012-04-27T15:17:04 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2012-04-27T15:19:51 I am ok with them making fun of us. At night they will hear a voice telling them that they don't speak a single foreign language. 2012-04-27T15:20:28 (p.s. programming languages don't count) 2012-04-27T15:20:36 Ok this is going to sound bad, but we don't need to, you speak english 2012-04-27T15:20:38 i was just making a joke, but you seem to think an different level.. 2012-04-27T15:20:42 :) 2012-04-27T15:20:47 on a* 2012-04-27T15:21:33 mleise: do ppl tell you often "leave me alon!", "ill get a restricition order!" or similar things? 2012-04-27T15:21:55 what is a restriction order? 2012-04-27T15:22:05 restraining 2012-04-27T15:22:09 ahah 2012-04-27T15:22:12 fuck 2012-04-27T15:22:48 i decided this morning ill speak more hungarian, seems it has a negative effect on my english 2012-04-27T15:26:52 i do wish english had better structure 2012-04-27T15:29:35 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T15:30:50 "so the poor guy has gone home from the coctail party, sitting by himself in his room, talking to the radio" 2012-04-27T15:30:58 aham, so this is what machine learning is about 2012-04-27T15:32:07 re english: i wish i had a better memory, i can hardly memorize words that i dont use often 2012-04-27T15:33:12 i find it a nice language, basically i watch everything in english, and the overwhelming part of what i read is in english too 2012-04-27T15:33:21 it t be* 2012-04-27T15:36:03 andrew ng says 'ass' instead of 'ask', thats a sizeable mistake 2012-04-27T15:42:56 i dont like the idea of using octave for machine learning, python would have been just fine 2012-04-27T15:43:34 im doing that machine learning thing too 2012-04-27T15:43:52 and agree that octave is awkward for it :x 2012-04-27T15:44:18 HaraKiri: Ng even says that 'you cant do this in one line in python' 2012-04-27T15:44:25 the svd example 2012-04-27T15:44:52 it would be indeed a bit more verbose in c++ or java, but not in python 2012-04-27T15:45:15 lisp gogo 2012-04-27T15:45:16 yeah python would have been my choice too. also the subtitles are hilarious 2012-04-27T15:45:26 i dont use them 2012-04-27T15:45:51 i tried them, but theyre super wrong, although it has been explicitly said that it's not a machine translation :D 2012-04-27T15:46:02 :) 2012-04-27T15:48:27 i had to use matlab on some courses at uni, and i developed an aversion from it, and its derivatives 2012-04-27T15:49:35 too bad. but will you stick with it though? 2012-04-27T15:49:48 do i need to? 2012-04-27T15:50:01 well submissions are octave only afaik 2012-04-27T15:50:15 they need to code or just the answers? 2012-04-27T15:51:20 i just really dont want to get used to another 'language' right now, even if octave is simple 2012-04-27T15:51:32 i have no other use for it than this course 2012-04-27T15:51:48 the whole submission function is an octave file, so that'll be tricky to avoid 2012-04-27T15:52:07 if they only check the result, and you have a look at that file, maybe you can fake it 2012-04-27T15:52:11 well, ill just swallow it then 2012-04-27T15:52:51 D 2012-04-27T15:53:10 oh wait, machine learning? meh... 2012-04-27T15:54:20 mleise: come on, you cant suggest D in place of octave 2012-04-27T15:54:57 Ng has a perfectly valid point, why he teaches with octave 2012-04-27T15:55:20 my problem is, that you could do most or almost everything with the same flexibility in python 2012-04-27T15:55:27 and python is general purpose 2012-04-27T15:55:44 yep, Python is very powerful 2012-04-27T15:55:47 (and no, dont tell me ppl wrote Ants submissions in octave i wont listen) 2012-04-27T15:56:05 haha, didn't see octave on the supported languages list 2012-04-27T16:05:44 *** rwest has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-04-27T16:19:59 Tesler's Theorem: "AI is whatever hasn't been done yet." 2012-04-27T16:20:17 now live up to the name, aichallenge! 2012-04-27T16:27:18 *** choas has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T16:39:17 i like how he says Cantor-plots instead of contour-plots 2012-04-27T16:45:15 i'm convinced he's speaking with a potato in his mouth half the time 2012-04-27T16:46:02 XD swallow!! 2012-04-27T16:51:07 *** kurnevsky has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-04-27T16:55:04 have you guys seen that zerg rush easter egg? 2012-04-27T16:55:11 *** choas has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2012-04-27T16:55:25 google it if that makes you go wtf 2012-04-27T16:55:32 just "zerg rush" 2012-04-27T16:57:16 i killed them 2012-04-27T16:58:41 fuck, they were coming from the bottom too 2012-04-27T16:58:56 ate my page ;( 2012-04-27T17:00:10 antimatroid: they are doing at the end what i tried to convince my ants to do 2012-04-27T17:00:23 someone got their ants to do it 2012-04-27T17:00:35 on tcp anyway 2012-04-27T17:00:56 i managed to implement most of my shape drawing alg. 2012-04-27T17:01:09 but there were corner cases, so i left it out of the program 2012-04-27T17:07:09 antimatroid: btw what is the answer to your maths question from yesterday? 2012-04-27T17:07:15 i think it was yesterday 2012-04-27T17:30:11 *** mceier has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2012-04-27T17:31:32 *** iglo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-04-27T17:33:47 *** X-Scale has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-04-27T17:38:27 *** HaraKiri has quit IRC () 2012-04-27T17:40:19 *** Guest32400 has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T17:43:25 *** Guest32400 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-04-27T17:49:26 *** mleise has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-04-27T17:50:15 *** mleise has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T17:56:06 *** Guest32400 has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T17:57:27 *** Guest32400 is now known as X-Scale 2012-04-27T18:02:23 *** dici has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T18:05:04 *** bhasker has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T18:05:09 hey a1k0n 2012-04-27T18:08:07 *** replor___ has joined #aichallenge 2012-04-27T18:10:09 *** replore has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-04-27T18:39:20 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: mcstar) 2012-04-27T18:40:39 *** Palmik has quit IRC () 2012-04-27T19:15:57 bhasker: how's things? 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