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different program 2012-05-08T12:11:04 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7) 2012-05-08T12:12:07 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T12:13:08 *** Kingpin13 has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T12:14:42 *** rowfur is now known as rofer 2012-05-08T13:32:41 aye 2012-05-08T13:53:55 *** iglo has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T14:23:52 *** qwerty_nor has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T14:26:36 *** Kingpin13 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-05-08T14:42:58 *** amstan_ is now known as amstan 2012-05-08T14:59:19 *** delt0r has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2012-05-08T15:10:01 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2012-05-08T15:12:45 *** delt0r has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T15:19:25 mcstar: i hate gui stuff... 2012-05-08T15:20:57 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T15:36:08 delt0r_: but you still do it 2012-05-08T15:36:47 or do you just outsource it to one of your phds? 2012-05-08T15:41:20 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7) 2012-05-08T15:41:37 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T15:43:47 *** choas has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T15:58:37 *** amstan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-05-08T16:34:17 *** iglo has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-05-08T16:38:41 *** Cyndre has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-05-08T16:47:00 *** Cyndre has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T16:49:29 mcstar: i try too 2012-05-08T16:49:35 don't have any right now 2012-05-08T16:49:50 and i have 2 great gui ideas i want someone else to code up 2012-05-08T16:50:00 ill do it 2012-05-08T16:50:06 java? 2012-05-08T16:50:09 no 2012-05-08T16:50:12 lol 2012-05-08T16:50:27 well i don't want to mantian builds for the platforms i need to support... 2012-05-08T16:50:32 maintain 2012-05-08T16:50:47 so java is typically what i use for this... its pretty small... 2012-05-08T16:50:53 I could do it 2012-05-08T16:50:56 but meh 2012-05-08T16:51:32 what is it for? 2012-05-08T16:52:31 also, im not sure how hard java would be 2012-05-08T16:52:37 what about clojure? 2012-05-08T16:53:11 delt0r: dont you want to share the idea? 2012-05-08T16:54:40 its not like that kind of idea.. 2012-05-08T16:54:56 My simulation software uses 100% command line 2012-05-08T16:55:20 yet some of the folks i work with are biologist that don't know what end of a computer to plug in 2012-05-08T16:55:28 'that kind of idea' what did i imply? 2012-05-08T16:55:52 so the idea it that you can use a gui to define population structures and stuff and it writes out the command line 2012-05-08T16:56:01 mcstar: like a good one... 2012-05-08T16:56:14 that could ya know... be good and stuff 2012-05-08T16:56:14 it is a good one if it makes their lives easier 2012-05-08T16:56:24 fusion is a good idea 2012-05-08T16:56:35 I have a idea for fusion 2012-05-08T16:56:39 loop fusion? or haskell like fusion? 2012-05-08T16:56:54 (or the real one, but thats overrated) 2012-05-08T16:56:57 like nuclear fusion 2012-05-08T16:57:08 dream on 2012-05-08T16:57:34 ah, your idea is porbably to channel all that money into biology 2012-05-08T16:57:36 right? 2012-05-08T16:57:39 oh i will... and as a ex physicist its not a dream... it will happen sooner or later 2012-05-08T16:58:01 nope... we should fund it seriously... not politically like now 2012-05-08T16:58:04 delt0r: im more interested in cold fusion 2012-05-08T16:58:20 fascinating problem 2012-05-08T16:58:27 now that is a real dream on i am afraid. 2012-05-08T16:58:47 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7) 2012-05-08T16:59:10 there is theoretical evindence that in deuterium phonons can lower the energy barrier for fusion 2012-05-08T16:59:15 even if every claim they said is true... which it can't be. Its still so little energy that its only going to help you keep your coffee just a little bit hotter 2012-05-08T16:59:19 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T16:59:19 2 repsected guys from my uni calculated this 2012-05-08T16:59:47 *** thestinger is now known as Guest15460 2012-05-08T16:59:54 and 100 other respected guys pointed out that its not even within an order of magnitude to enough 2012-05-08T17:00:03 me being one of them... 2012-05-08T17:00:15 delt0r: the whole controversy is fascinating though 2012-05-08T17:00:28 much better than superlumnal neutrinos 2012-05-08T17:00:37 There are too many ducks that have to line up for even one of these claims. And that is *after* 20 years of data collection 2012-05-08T17:00:52 for example the idea that e+p->n 2012-05-08T17:01:01 *** Guest15460 is now known as thestinger 2012-05-08T17:01:22 fine if you find the keV of energy required --lets pretend that its there... 2012-05-08T17:01:37 well why don't we see n+Pd reactions etc? 2012-05-08T17:02:00 Oh because there is another 10 different new effects that come into play... 2012-05-08T17:02:18 but not in *any* other system with similar parameters... 2012-05-08T17:02:35 Sorry, cold fusion (LENR) is not going to fly... 2012-05-08T17:02:53 i dont mind 2012-05-08T17:03:07 fusion will.... 2012-05-08T17:03:08 but 2012-05-08T17:03:30 I may turn out to not be cheap enough... I think with enough work it will be however. 2012-05-08T17:03:41 It may^ 2012-05-08T17:04:54 so how would you go about doing fusion? 2012-05-08T17:05:12 as in Fund it? or my idea in particular? 2012-05-08T17:05:14 do you have a new idea for magnetic confinement? 2012-05-08T17:05:19 2nd 2012-05-08T17:05:20 not really... 2012-05-08T17:05:35 well i would go the pulsed Z pinch route. 2012-05-08T17:05:56 but i would fix the problems by adding intense external heating 2012-05-08T17:06:14 *** foRei has quit IRC (Quit: Bye) 2012-05-08T17:06:17 either with a ebeam or proton beam or laser or whatever 2012-05-08T17:06:37 then you can decouple current/temp/pressure ballance a bit 2012-05-08T17:06:44 balance 2012-05-08T17:06:50 whats the problem with z pinch? 2012-05-08T17:06:55 (im not up to date) 2012-05-08T17:07:02 stability 2012-05-08T17:07:06 *** kurnevsky has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-05-08T17:07:21 throw current at it faster or more... it just goes unstable faster 2012-05-08T17:07:23 is it supposed to provide sustained fusion? 2012-05-08T17:07:28 or just the ignition? 2012-05-08T17:07:40 well Q>1 2012-05-08T17:08:07 that is more fusion energy per pulse that energy put in 2012-05-08T17:08:18 ignition is overrated 2012-05-08T17:09:57 so if it is pulsed, how does stability come into play? 2012-05-08T17:10:13 does it take too long to form another pulse? 2012-05-08T17:10:17 well instability is measured in ns 2012-05-08T17:10:18 or burn 2012-05-08T17:11:14 i think im in the dark 2012-05-08T17:11:14 point in fact tokmaks are a looped stabilized z pinch 2012-05-08T17:11:19 will need to read up on this 2012-05-08T17:11:26 well its about time scales... 2012-05-08T17:12:11 so why would you still befer z-pinch? 2012-05-08T17:12:15 prefer* 2012-05-08T17:12:37 because i think my idea is better that other ones ;) 2012-05-08T17:12:49 but this isnt your idea 2012-05-08T17:13:04 i dont see it referred to as Deltor's pinch 2012-05-08T17:13:24 exteranl heated zpinch is 2012-05-08T17:13:29 ah yeah 2012-05-08T17:13:41 why would you heat it? 2012-05-08T17:14:00 *** choas has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 2012-05-08T17:14:04 can you preheat it close the ignition temperature?(i dont think so) 2012-05-08T17:15:20 so you can get parts of the parameter space you couldn't otherwise 2012-05-08T17:15:22 delt0r: http://imgur.com/qHwwu http://imgur.com/1zC1T im doing this kind of stuff 2012-05-08T17:15:47 but can you still come up with a positive energy balance? 2012-05-08T17:15:51 for example making it hotter means more current ... but more current means many other things too 2012-05-08T17:16:21 Image not found 2012-05-08T17:16:49 quantum? 2012-05-08T17:16:52 http://i.imgur.com/1zC1T.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qHwwu.png 2012-05-08T17:16:57 try these 2012-05-08T17:17:03 but it shouldbe ok i think 2012-05-08T17:17:11 others work... 2012-05-08T17:17:21 not quantum 2012-05-08T17:17:31 simple density functionl, but classical 2012-05-08T17:17:40 solidifcation theory 2012-05-08T17:17:47 looks like crystal structure 2012-05-08T17:17:51 yeah 2012-05-08T17:17:52 right 2012-05-08T17:17:58 but on long long time scales 2012-05-08T17:18:08 and it isnt an electronic structure 2012-05-08T17:18:19 just atomic probabiliyt density distribution 2012-05-08T17:18:30 right 2012-05-08T17:18:36 geology? 2012-05-08T17:18:54 no 2012-05-08T17:19:02 long time scales 2012-05-08T17:19:05 statistical physics? 2012-05-08T17:19:10 yeah 2012-05-08T17:19:21 long means not MD time scales, but diffusional 2012-05-08T17:19:34 like 10^-9 secs 2012-05-08T17:19:42 to 10^-6 2012-05-08T17:19:47 i think 2012-05-08T17:20:04 right... but that is not so long compared to time to solidify 2012-05-08T17:20:46 well, stuff can solidify really slowly, with low driving force 2012-05-08T17:20:51 and it really depends on many things 2012-05-08T17:21:00 liquid-solid, vapor-solid 2012-05-08T17:21:15 right 2012-05-08T17:21:42 this model seems to capture feature of crystallizing collodial system 2012-05-08T17:21:43 s 2012-05-08T17:23:28 cool 2012-05-08T17:26:06 *** Palmik has quit IRC () 2012-05-08T17:37:28 *** g0llum has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-05-08T17:46:00 delt0r: are you familiar with dark matter research? 2012-05-08T18:07:29 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T18:07:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2012-05-08T18:22:18 mcstar: yes 2012-05-08T18:22:46 did quite a bit of astrophysics... try to keep up with paper too 2012-05-08T18:23:06 do those guys do n-body simulations? 2012-05-08T18:23:12 yes... 2012-05-08T18:23:28 are you familiar with the fast multipole method? 2012-05-08T18:23:31 were each particle can be the size of a galaxy 2012-05-08T18:23:37 no 2012-05-08T18:23:51 fast multipole... sounds like fun... 2012-05-08T18:24:20 it is lumping bodies together, and computing effective forces on other bodies 2012-05-08T18:24:21 SPH is pretty common for this sort of thing.. good with large variation of scales 2012-05-08T18:24:44 well there are a lot of approximations of course. 2012-05-08T18:24:53 i was just wondering about the accuracy of the simulations 2012-05-08T18:25:05 but i think im going in the wrong direction 2012-05-08T18:25:11 depends who you ask... i would say "accurate enough" 2012-05-08T18:25:47 they are pretty good at showing the local lumpy ness of the univierse and early universe needs something like dark matter 2012-05-08T18:26:23 i didnt know that 2012-05-08T18:26:28 mcstar: typically the only long range force is gravity, which can be done well with PIC 2012-05-08T18:26:43 whats that? 2012-05-08T18:26:54 Particle in a cell 2012-05-08T18:27:28 you calculate the potential field at the cell corners for all the particles in that cell 2012-05-08T18:27:39 good for emag stuff too 2012-05-08T18:28:36 anyway... off to bed 2012-05-08T18:28:44 this is to avoid O(n^2) force calculations? 2012-05-08T18:28:48 yes 2012-05-08T18:28:53 i see 2012-05-08T18:28:58 good night, im going too 2012-05-08T18:29:16 * mcstar wonders what delt0r DIDNT do 2012-05-08T18:29:36 lol 2012-05-08T18:29:50 make a fusion reactor --thats what 2012-05-08T18:31:10 *** heinrich5991 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-05-08T18:34:09 *** FireFly has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T18:38:08 *** heinrich5991 has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T18:40:42 *** qwerty_nor has quit IRC (Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)) 2012-05-08T18:46:08 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: mcstar) 2012-05-08T18:46:16 *** wessel has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T18:54:20 *** wessel has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120420145725]) 2012-05-08T18:58:27 *** heinrich5991 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 2012-05-08T19:04:27 *** heinrich5991 has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T19:13:10 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2012-05-08T19:33:31 *** Fandekasp has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T19:45:17 *** mceier has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2012-05-08T19:53:26 *** archdori has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T19:57:04 *** Fandekasp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-05-08T20:02:48 *** Cyndre_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T20:05:01 *** Cyndre has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2012-05-08T20:12:12 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7) 2012-05-08T20:26:48 *** Vrexu has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-05-08T21:01:47 *** dudester has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T21:01:58 hello 2012-05-08T21:02:03 anyone in here 2012-05-08T21:03:05 *** dudester has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2012-05-08T21:16:16 *** Garf has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-05-08T21:52:56 *** pairofdice has quit IRC (Quit: in girum imus nocte et consumimur igni) 2012-05-08T21:55:17 *** cyphase has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.cyphase.com/) 2012-05-08T22:09:35 *** replore has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T22:14:19 *** cyphase has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T22:16:11 *** Cyndre_ has left #aichallenge ("Leaving") 2012-05-08T22:16:33 *** Cyndre has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T22:21:48 *** archdori has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-05-08T22:59:49 *** delt0r has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-05-08T23:13:05 *** delt0r has joined #aichallenge 2012-05-08T23:26:50 *** replore has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-05-08T23:33:28 *** delt0r has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)