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2012-07-18T07:56:10 antarn: well, it won't happen unless people start working on it and it all comes together 2012-07-18T07:56:16 there aren't really specific plans/dates afaik 2012-07-18T07:57:07 thestinger: ok 2012-07-18T08:07:56 *** antimatroid has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) 2012-07-18T08:08:11 *** antimatroid has joined #aichallenge 2012-07-18T08:14:04 *** cyphase has joined #aichallenge 2012-07-18T09:14:42 *** Mickcy_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-07-18T09:15:42 *** Mickcy_ has left #aichallenge 2012-07-18T09:16:39 *** Mickcy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-07-18T09:25:55 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2012-07-18T09:25:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2012-07-18T09:33:59 thestinger: getopt vs. argp? 2012-07-18T09:38:16 mcstar: in python? 2012-07-18T09:38:25 nah 2012-07-18T09:38:27 c++ 2012-07-18T09:38:51 have you used any? 2012-07-18T09:38:54 oh 2012-07-18T09:38:57 I've used getopt in C 2012-07-18T09:39:06 haven't used argp 2012-07-18T09:39:07 impressions? 2012-07-18T09:39:38 I'm sure there's something better than getopt in C++ 2012-07-18T09:39:40 it' 2012-07-18T09:39:42 it's pretty bad* 2012-07-18T09:40:14 argp seems better from a short description 2012-07-18T09:40:18 but it is still archaic 2012-07-18T09:40:41 i need to parameterize a simulation 2012-07-18T09:40:46 I dunno if there's an alternative other than the boost program_options one 2012-07-18T09:41:03 ill look into that 2012-07-18T09:41:30 thestinger: i have this program, that does fast opengl drawing, besides the simulation 2012-07-18T09:41:40 im thinking about making that part a standalone program 2012-07-18T09:42:02 and using some memory sharing technique to interface with it from othe rlanguages/runtimes 2012-07-18T09:43:06 you could expose a C API 2012-07-18T09:44:58 i was thinking of, memory mapping on the part of the caller 2012-07-18T09:45:08 and it would run as a separate thread 2012-07-18T09:45:22 and would incur minimal run-time overhead 2012-07-18T09:59:58 worst of all getopt was ported to D in the standard library :D 2012-07-18T10:00:35 I found the Python one much more powerful, from looking at it. 2012-07-18T10:00:55 The included usage help for example is an obvious feature for a console application 2012-07-18T10:04:28 mawif:D 2012-07-18T10:04:31 fuck 2012-07-18T10:04:34 mleise:D 2012-07-18T10:05:04 hey yo, whassup? 2012-07-18T10:05:22 and what is mawif:D? 2012-07-18T10:05:32 mistabbed 2012-07-18T10:06:23 mleise:D is a little word-pun on D and :D 2012-07-18T10:07:30 hey, I guess I could try to clone Python's ... whatever it is called 2012-07-18T10:08:02 and then tell thestinger "hey, look what D has, that C++ doesn't have" 2012-07-18T10:08:40 hm? 2012-07-18T10:09:13 You always lure people into using Haskell, so I thought I need something to lure some into using D. 2012-07-18T10:09:25 but D has already things that c++ doesnt 2012-07-18T10:09:36 and thestinger is a python expert 2012-07-18T10:09:53 uh, that's a tough target audience 2012-07-18T10:10:44 then again, he would probably like a Python feature in a native language 2012-07-18T10:11:23 FUCk 2012-07-18T10:11:51 im so fucked 2012-07-18T10:12:49 someone already applied monte carlo to pfc in 2008 2012-07-18T10:12:53 there goes my idea 2012-07-18T10:13:04 ill what i can save from it 2012-07-18T10:13:09 ill see* 2012-07-18T10:13:34 pfc? 2012-07-18T10:14:05 a model im working on 2012-07-18T10:17:27 was it your doctor thesis project? 2012-07-18T10:17:42 that is 2012-07-18T10:17:48 but not phd 2012-07-18T10:17:49 msc 2012-07-18T10:18:30 oh well, i can imagine that is difficult 2012-07-18T10:18:33 *** sadf has joined #aichallenge 2012-07-18T10:18:37 *** mceier has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2012-07-18T10:18:45 to find a subject that hasn't been explored before 2012-07-18T10:19:22 I would write about my special approach to Ants path finding. You know that one with the 10 pages of source code 2012-07-18T10:20:59 no i forgot 2012-07-18T10:21:06 j/k 2012-07-18T10:21:20 you never disclosed the whole code 2012-07-18T10:21:26 is it finished? 2012-07-18T10:21:42 no, it makes my brain implode 2012-07-18T10:22:11 it looks so simple on paper, but when I want to implement it, the code becomes longer and longer 2012-07-18T10:22:38 as if it just wasn't made to be written in a programming language 2012-07-18T10:22:54 probably you should use continuation passing style 2012-07-18T10:23:09 er.... heard that word before 2012-07-18T10:25:29 errr... i go roped into something i don't think i should really be doing :| 2012-07-18T10:26:17 i got asked the other day if i could do a 3 minute talk on my thesis stuff, which i thought was just to the maths faculty, then i get an email with me in the line up for some competition 2012-07-18T10:26:19 well, tell the other boys, you are not interested 2012-07-18T10:27:04 i'll explain, the heat starts at 11am, it's 12:30am 2012-07-18T10:27:14 then i was just checking the eligibility page from the email 2012-07-18T10:27:29 "Competitors are requested to now do a reality check. Have you enough research material to compete?  The 3MT presentation is aimed at research students presenting their research findings. Do you have your supervisor’s, a mentor’s, your peer’s support?" I don't have any of those checked off 2012-07-18T10:27:35 i wasn't told any of this before :| 2012-07-18T10:28:01 wait, i have a good adice 2012-07-18T10:28:03 it will fit 2012-07-18T10:28:16 eat concrete, and harden the fuck up! 2012-07-18T10:28:27 you sissy 2012-07-18T10:28:33 hahaha 2012-07-18T10:28:53 *** sadf has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2012-07-18T10:28:53 no honestly, they have a strange way of recruiting people there at your uni 2012-07-18T10:31:08 antimatroid? hello? did you eat concrete? Oo 2012-07-18T10:31:51 clearly, you were set up 2012-07-18T10:31:54 oh well, we'll miss you, life goes on 2012-07-18T10:32:02 just tell them, to go fuck themselves 2012-07-18T10:32:27 (in an appropriate way, ofc) 2012-07-18T10:32:43 mleise: phone sorry hold on 2012-07-18T10:33:26 ah, he's currently following your advice, mcstar 2012-07-18T10:33:46 which one? 2012-07-18T10:33:52 mleise: well it was the maths office lady who asked me 2012-07-18T10:34:00 lol 2012-07-18T10:34:01 and the maths department did something like that last year, just because 2012-07-18T10:34:05 so i assumed it was for that 2012-07-18T10:34:06 go fuck yourself, office lady 2012-07-18T10:34:14 haha, nah she's pretty cool 2012-07-18T10:34:18 but what do i do? 2012-07-18T10:34:28 they're only allowed to be one slide anyway 2012-07-18T10:34:37 Tell them it was a misunderstanding 2012-07-18T10:34:41 i might just make something but also email the guy saying err, probably shouldn't really be going in it 2012-07-18T10:34:47 yeah i think i shall 2012-07-18T10:35:04 wish i realised this earlier, i rescheduled plans cause of this thing :| 2012-07-18T10:35:05 but 3 minutes wont kill you either 2012-07-18T10:35:13 yeah, but i'll look like an idiot not having results 2012-07-18T10:35:22 when it's clearly on that page they said to read in the email aha 2012-07-18T10:35:22 only for 3 minutes 2012-07-18T10:35:26 no results is a show stopper ^^ 2012-07-18T10:35:40 they cant figure out in 3 minutes that you dont have results 2012-07-18T10:35:51 another alternative is to not talk about my thesis at all and talk about games instead aha 2012-07-18T10:36:07 it'll take me three minutes just to explain words they wont understand 2012-07-18T10:36:16 just talk gibberish with buzz words and after 3 minutes look at your clock and say "uh, i've got to go" 2012-07-18T10:36:16 here you go 2012-07-18T10:36:20 open with the glossary 2012-07-18T10:36:27 ooops, time up 2012-07-18T10:36:32 well, fellows, see you next time 2012-07-18T10:36:53 an old friend hung himself yesterday too :| 2012-07-18T10:37:03 i say old because i haven't talked to him in a while, but we weren't not friends 2012-07-18T10:37:19 i like the old not not friends of mine 2012-07-18T10:37:30 great persons an such 2012-07-18T10:37:34 and* 2012-07-18T10:37:36 i mean, i would call him a friend 2012-07-18T10:37:43 oh 2012-07-18T10:37:50 but it seems weird to say your friend passed away or whatever when you haven't really talked to them in a while 2012-07-18T10:37:58 yeah 2012-07-18T10:37:59 it feels like you're taking away from those who are still quite close to them 2012-07-18T10:38:22 was it an accident? 2012-07-18T10:38:31 he *hung* himself 2012-07-18T10:38:33 like, with carradine? 2012-07-18T10:38:34 accidentally hung? :P 2012-07-18T10:38:51 well, you can hang yourself accidentally 2012-07-18T10:38:55 in a bonding game 2012-07-18T10:38:59 sry 2012-07-18T10:39:01 bondage 2012-07-18T10:39:13 or just masterbating with a belt around your neck 2012-07-18T10:39:15 you look the wrong movies man 2012-07-18T10:39:19 *watch 2012-07-18T10:39:23 auto asphyxiation or whatever 2012-07-18T10:39:28 haha, nice 2012-07-18T10:39:32 so it was that! 2012-07-18T10:39:34 i knew it 2012-07-18T10:39:40 i doubt it 2012-07-18T10:39:45 but i have heard of that on the web 2012-07-18T10:39:47 you just said it 2012-07-18T10:39:55 ah, i see 2012-07-18T10:39:58 i was adding to your bondage comment :P 2012-07-18T10:40:01 :) 2012-07-18T10:40:12 and im just twisting your words as always 2012-07-18T10:40:37 did he at least had a happy life? 2012-07-18T10:40:39 antimatroid wonders if he could have talked him out of that 2012-07-18T10:40:46 stupid question 2012-07-18T10:41:08 he never seemed like that kind of person 2012-07-18T10:41:14 http://imgur.com/a/NoxHB#Rr9Xb 2012-07-18T10:41:16 murder! 2012-07-18T10:41:21 one of my not not friend died at 19 2012-07-18T10:41:24 those are old pics of him i dug up and put on fb 2012-07-18T10:41:42 one of my friend's brother died a couple of years ago 2012-07-18T10:41:51 he was found at the bottom of a drop/cliff 2012-07-18T10:42:02 they say it wasn't suss, i've always been a bit iffy about it 2012-07-18T10:42:30 well, from the pictures, im not surprised 2012-07-18T10:42:41 why not? 2012-07-18T10:42:47 kind of rebellious little guy 2012-07-18T10:42:56 :) 2012-07-18T10:42:59 what do you expect from skaters? :P 2012-07-18T10:43:01 life loud, die young? 2012-07-18T10:43:02 and the whole skating act, scares me 2012-07-18T10:43:07 yeah 2012-07-18T10:43:18 i dont know these folks 2012-07-18T10:43:23 stayed far away from them 2012-07-18T10:43:34 (but then, it is true for almost any kind of group..) 2012-07-18T10:43:35 i practically grew up at the skatepark 2012-07-18T10:44:18 rock out with your dick out! 2012-07-18T10:46:00 antimatroid: im not sure you were looking for this kind of treatment 2012-07-18T10:46:11 im sorry if i seem too insensitive 2012-07-18T10:46:27 my condolances, man 2012-07-18T10:46:29 mcstar: dw, i'm fine 2012-07-18T10:47:02 i care about intent of what people say, you should know i can be really offensive when people don't consider my intent :P 2012-07-18T10:47:49 i dunno if the internet ruined me, but i don't really get affected by these kind of things, sure it sucks, but i am not oblivious to how life works 2012-07-18T10:49:05 well, it probably makes me a bad person, but i almost couldnt stop laughing at the funeral of my not not friend 2012-07-18T10:49:52 Not bad, just strange :) 2012-07-18T10:50:00 the guy was always picked on, from elementrary, through high school, was an only child, and his parents were very protective of him 2012-07-18T10:50:13 what was funny? 2012-07-18T10:50:19 maybe i was the closest thing to a friend to him in high school 2012-07-18T10:50:27 but hardly knew him 2012-07-18T10:50:37 anyway, after high school, he got a car 2012-07-18T10:50:48 1 year later, comes the news, that he is dead 2012-07-18T10:50:56 and the old class was assembled to bury him 2012-07-18T10:51:10 he drove the car to a tree or something 2012-07-18T10:51:36 i remember that i didnt feel safe with him, when he drove, in his dad's old mustang 2012-07-18T10:51:53 so i wasnt surprised at all 2012-07-18T10:52:08 im not sure what was i laughing at 2012-07-18T10:52:10 yeah, one of my friends used to drive unsafely 2012-07-18T10:52:12 probably the situation 2012-07-18T10:52:13 he's grown up a bit now 2012-07-18T10:52:14 mustangs aren't known for their safety 2012-07-18T10:52:24 he didnt die in the mustanf 2012-07-18T10:52:27 g 2012-07-18T10:52:35 one of his good friends is now mentally and physically disabled from rolling his car 2012-07-18T10:52:40 he was given some modern city car 2012-07-18T10:52:42 not with my good friend there 2012-07-18T10:53:38 a guy, couple of houses down the sreet, had a serious car accident 2012-07-18T10:53:45 at almost the same time, i had my fall 2012-07-18T10:53:59 poor guy still sits in the wheelchair, but he can talk now 2012-07-18T10:54:32 lol 2012-07-18T10:54:43 im running an doing pull/push ups 2012-07-18T10:54:51 all in all im so lucky 2012-07-18T10:55:12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMSI9kal5jg 2012-07-18T10:55:55 yeah, i still consider myself pretty lucky from last october 2012-07-18T11:00:33 bailing on that talk thing 2012-07-18T11:00:43 sent the guy an email, not even going to turn up, meh :P 2012-07-18T11:01:06 i'll check in the morning if my friend can still do our other plans otherwise go watch the other talks 2012-07-18T11:02:36 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 2012-07-18T12:13:47 *** Guest8313 has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2012-07-18T12:31:35 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-07-18T12:39:55 *** mleise has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-07-18T12:50:38 *** kilae has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]) 2012-07-18T13:04:12 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 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