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:P 2012-08-11T09:40:50 hft doesn't get very extravagent since they have to go so fast. we get pretty fancy 2012-08-11T09:41:06 esp. with arbitrage 2012-08-11T09:42:18 i'm just trying to find the thing on wiki that sounds awesome to me :P 2012-08-11T09:42:47 it's kind of like playing poker, in many ways 2012-08-11T09:43:46 yeah, that kind of work sounds really fun to me 2012-08-11T09:43:49 if you can come up with an estimated value for a trade (which is hard) then you can decide whether to take it 2012-08-11T09:43:53 the hft stuff not so much 2012-08-11T09:44:29 i'm hoping optiver in australia do some stuff like that and maybe they'll take me once i'm done with the phd 2012-08-11T09:45:52 jane street doesn't require phds! 2012-08-11T09:46:15 i can't find this page :\ 2012-08-11T09:46:30 what page? 2012-08-11T09:46:36 i am doing the phd in something which i doubt would be useful for finance anyway, i just want to do it :D 2012-08-11T09:46:42 on wikipedia 2012-08-11T09:46:52 oh optiver is hft 2012-08-11T09:47:07 i work next to a biology phd 2012-08-11T09:47:26 hmmm, i don't know much about trading etc. that's part of what i am hoping to teach myself during phd 2012-08-11T09:47:49 i did measure and probability courses last semester 2012-08-11T09:47:54 heh, in fact jane street doesn't expect any prior knowledge about finance 2012-08-11T09:48:04 i thought that had largely changed? 2012-08-11T09:48:16 since there's now so many candidates trained in both, why train people on their own dime? 2012-08-11T09:48:40 that may have changed in the rest of the industry, but not here 2012-08-11T09:48:49 my thoughts are based off internet comments though, so yeah, :P 2012-08-11T09:49:03 the reason is that we have a pretty different culture from the rest, and we find that many candidates with any experience are already "broken" :\ 2012-08-11T09:49:23 well, *a* reason 2012-08-11T09:49:30 define broken in this context? 2012-08-11T09:50:01 i assume you're also working with haskell knowing you? 2012-08-11T09:50:58 don't have many of their own opinions, both technically and ethically; tend to expect a pretty rigid corporate structure and don't know what to do with autonomy; have certain expectations about what we do and do not like employees doing; etc. 2012-08-11T09:51:06 ocaml 2012-08-11T09:51:51 i would say ethics is one of the bigger things 2012-08-11T09:52:23 people from other parts of the finance industry are kind of prone to lying, unfortunately... they think they are just white lies that everybody says, but... 2012-08-11T09:52:28 i'm painfully ethical at times 2012-08-11T09:52:54 sounds like you've got a pretty sweet gig going 2012-08-11T09:53:14 one of the cofounders says that if good people never enter get into finance, there will be no good people in finance 2012-08-11T09:53:20 *never get 2012-08-11T09:54:36 i'm actually making liveable money at the moment anyway, so i'm set for another ~3 years 2012-08-11T09:54:51 great! 2012-08-11T09:54:54 getting 24k tax free funding and up to $110/h TAing 2012-08-11T09:55:12 not raking it in, but my expenses are minimal so it's slowly backing up 2012-08-11T09:55:23 yeah, that's how i treat money, too 2012-08-11T09:56:33 my wife and i lived on 12k USD for a year without lowering our prior standard of living, and this in fact included some other expenses like traveling and moving... 2012-08-11T09:56:46 nice 2012-08-11T09:56:58 i've never really been outside australia (went to nz when i was like 4) 2012-08-11T09:57:06 i might take a chunck out for a trip next year or something 2012-08-11T09:57:35 so far this year i've just been getting on top of the phd stuff rather than being in a huge rush at the end 2012-08-11T10:00:31 one of my coworkers actually started jane street before finishing his phd, but then decided he wanted to finish it, so he's on a hiatus to finish it up... i think it's taking him a lot longer than he planned to write his thesis 2012-08-11T10:04:36 yeah i want to finish the phd at least before i consider moving outside academia 2012-08-11T10:04:43 i may even do a post doc first 2012-08-11T10:04:58 if i had my first pick of jobs through my life i'd do that, finance for a while then go back to academia 2012-08-11T10:26:40 i have no particular long term goal, apart perhaps from early retirement, although so far that hasn't been the explicit goal. i've just been saving way more than i have to 2012-08-11T10:26:53 but if i do retire early then i get to work on whatever i want :D 2012-08-11T10:27:21 i guess i also have some vague plans to be an entrepreneur at some point 2012-08-11T10:31:04 retiring early would be nice 2012-08-11T10:31:30 and just being financially secure 2012-08-11T10:31:34 so you're free to do whatever you want 2012-08-11T10:32:18 anyway, hockey bronze medal game is on and australia is playing :P 2012-08-11T11:14:05 *** alehorst has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-08-11T11:16:39 *** alehorst has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-11T12:51:45 *** amstan_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-11T12:51:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan_ 2012-08-11T12:59:32 *** epicmonkey has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-11T13:22:06 *** g0llum has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-11T13:28:35 *** pairofdice has quit IRC (Quit: In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni.) 2012-08-11T13:34:58 *** kilae has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-11T14:50:58 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-11T14:51:30 damn, how much i hate hft 2012-08-11T14:53:40 i mean, i havent tried to do it, but i heard its a pita 2012-08-11T15:02:51 *** Chris_0076 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2012-08-11T15:06:09 oh, i meant heterogeneous fluid transport, my bad 2012-08-11T15:08:35 mcstar: heh 2012-08-11T15:08:54 it was a bad joke... 2012-08-11T15:09:04 that why it only gets a "heh" 2012-08-11T15:09:10 :) 2012-08-11T15:10:02 so, i read you would make a financial game for recruitment? 2012-08-11T15:10:22 how would that work? worldwide? 2012-08-11T15:11:03 well, by "for recruitment" i basically mean that the goals would be to get our name out there, showing that we do fun stuff, and to possibly find talent and such 2012-08-11T15:11:13 we are an international company, so yes 2012-08-11T15:11:38 do you have offices in hungary? i think not 2012-08-11T15:12:00 we have three primary offices. we hire out of any country we can, though 2012-08-11T15:12:04 mcstar: international is usually defined as 3 or more 2012-08-11T15:12:06 2* 2012-08-11T15:12:09 countries 2012-08-11T15:12:24 doesnt matter, i wanted to know specifically 2012-08-11T15:12:35 morgan stanly has offices here for example 2012-08-11T15:12:36 our main offices are in new york, london, hong kong 2012-08-11T15:12:54 new york being by far the largest and most central 2012-08-11T15:13:17 it's something like 220/60/40 2012-08-11T15:13:59 what are the numbers? employees? 2012-08-11T15:14:03 yeah 2012-08-11T15:14:27 that's a lower bound on each office, to be clear 2012-08-11T15:14:32 i'm not sure of the exact numbers 2012-08-11T15:15:06 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2012-08-11T15:18:29 those are surprisingly small numbers 2012-08-11T15:18:34 at least, i am surprised 2012-08-11T15:18:55 we're a prop shop, and not a spinoff some some larger company 2012-08-11T15:18:59 *from some 2012-08-11T15:19:26 how come youre usually on #haskell but not on #ocaml? 2012-08-11T15:19:41 as far as my own time goes, i still prefer haskell over ocaml ;) 2012-08-11T15:19:50 :) 2012-08-11T15:19:52 i've appears in #ocaml a few times, but i don't lurk 2012-08-11T15:19:56 *appeared 2012-08-11T15:20:56 we've grown a lot even since i was hired. we had barely over 200 people worldwide when i first started 2012-08-11T15:21:08 how do you do the actual hiring? call in a bunch of candidates, and select a few on the basis of some test and interview? 2012-08-11T15:21:32 normally we take resumes, do a few phone interviews, then bring them in for a day 2012-08-11T15:21:47 sometimes there are unusual cases, but that is by and large the norm 2012-08-11T15:22:12 we don't bring in several at once though. it's all one-on-one 2012-08-11T15:22:24 that was my next quetion :) 2012-08-11T15:22:25 well, we might have a few on-site at a time, but we don't test them together 2012-08-11T15:22:27 s 2012-08-11T15:22:51 actually, it's two-on-one (we normally have two interviewers at a time) 2012-08-11T15:22:55 except on the phone 2012-08-11T15:23:19 how many of the called-in candidates do you actually hire roughly? 2012-08-11T15:23:56 (i guess, you are free to pick, no shortage of candidates, right?) 2012-08-11T15:23:57 i don't remember that figure for certain 2012-08-11T15:24:28 i think we tend to hire 1% or 2% of all candidates we interview, but that probably includes people we reject before bringing on-site 2012-08-11T15:24:58 we always have more to do than we do employees 2012-08-11T15:25:45 how do i wake myself up for an hour? 2012-08-11T15:25:50 i think the 1-2% is of candidates that pass the resume screening 2012-08-11T15:25:50 i'm half asleep and the hockey final is on 2012-08-11T15:26:16 antimatroid1: just an hour? slap yourself in the face every few minutes really hard 2012-08-11T15:26:17 antimatroid1: go outside in the cold for a while, or smoke a cigarette 2012-08-11T15:26:30 it's 5 degrees outside, fuck that 2012-08-11T15:26:36 it'd wake you up! 2012-08-11T15:26:37 * antimatroid1 slaps himself 2012-08-11T15:26:40 ha 2012-08-11T15:26:44 is that hot or cold? i never know.. 2012-08-11T15:26:50 cold for me 2012-08-11T15:26:51 i think that's cold anywhere you are 2012-08-11T15:26:53 pussy 2012-08-11T15:26:57 cold enough for 5:30am 2012-08-11T15:27:44 if that were fahrenheite it would be damn cold 2012-08-11T15:28:00 i'm from australia, none of that funny stuff 2012-08-11T15:28:16 :p 2012-08-11T15:28:35 i just wasnt sure if he would find 5celsius too cold to go out(pussy!) or too hot to even bother with it 2012-08-11T15:28:50 mcstar: "(i guess, you are free to pick, no shortage of candidates, right?)" actually, there is a shortage of candidates because we tend to be kind of selective 2012-08-11T15:29:44 yeah, you are definitely selective 2012-08-11T15:29:50 mcstar: http://www.fins.com/Finance/Articles/SB130826852769924133/The-Toughest-Companies-for-Job-Interviews 2012-08-11T15:29:55 choosy bitch this Jane is 2012-08-11T15:29:59 ha 2012-08-11T15:30:03 :) 2012-08-11T15:30:22 "I failed the third round phone interview with a trader. I got stuck at one problem and that trader lost his patience on me." <-- this is actually not the kind of press we want :( 2012-08-11T15:31:23 how patient are you guys with non native english speakers? 2012-08-11T15:31:38 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-11T15:32:05 we try our best 2012-08-11T15:32:20 we have plenty of non-native english speakers that we hired 2012-08-11T15:32:26 some of which i still have trouble understanding 2012-08-11T15:32:34 but they were great hires, nonetheless 2012-08-11T15:33:03 do you speak ocaml by the watercooler? 2012-08-11T15:33:13 haha 2012-08-11T15:33:16 sometimes... 2012-08-11T15:34:46 bloody germans scored 2012-08-11T15:36:16 stress kills 2012-08-11T15:36:23 i think this will be my motto 2012-08-11T15:37:38 half time, mcstar this better wake me up :| 2012-08-11T15:38:02 hey, no money back guarantee! 2012-08-11T15:38:13 i'll personally fly there and get my money back 2012-08-11T15:38:20 fuck 2012-08-11T15:41:41 brrr 2012-08-11T15:45:46 sleepy aha 2012-08-11T16:06:28 wooo 1 all 2012-08-11T16:20:45 pesky germans 2012-08-11T16:47:24 *** amstan_ has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 2012-08-11T16:47:30 *** g0llum has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-08-11T16:52:15 what does pesky mean? i hope something good :) 2012-08-11T16:53:27 no 2012-08-11T16:53:42 i think it is similar to annoying 2012-08-11T16:54:06 yeah, i was right 2012-08-11T16:59:14 it is generally a bad idea to follow a xenomorph into an air duct 2012-08-11T17:17:37 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-08-11T17:35:50 mcstar: haha, so true. it's also generally a bad idea to split up when you are the last two survivers of a mysterious massacre 2012-08-11T17:36:32 *** mceier has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-11T17:36:38 also when you are female or black you will survive. better even when you are both! see: alien vs. predator ;) 2012-08-11T17:38:09 i dont even remember the avp movies 2012-08-11T17:38:21 they were somewhat bad, that i remember 2012-08-11T17:40:19 wiki says the first pc avp game has a linux version 2012-08-11T17:43:34 the port is incomplete :) 2012-08-11T17:43:36 :( 2012-08-11T17:49:58 oh great ^^. well, Valve proved that OpenGL runs faster than DirectX and that Linux has is the same speed as Windows. 2012-08-11T17:50:41 That means their corporate power will create a change in the next years and we will see AAA games on Linux 2012-08-11T17:51:25 What I mean with that is, that they work closely with gfx card manufactureres to improve the drivers 2012-08-11T17:52:19 heck, even the Windows OpenGL drivers got notably better through their intervention or that of id Software 2012-08-11T17:52:49 an old ATi I had would render Doom3 with 2 FPS ... until a driver update. It's a shame -.- 2012-08-11T17:53:42 opengl has different performance across platforms? 2012-08-11T17:54:16 omg, Prometheus' buget was 130M$ 2012-08-11T17:54:55 it was full of not-that-successful actors, except charlize theron 2012-08-11T17:56:01 mleise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens_vs._Predator_vs._The_Terminator 2012-08-11T17:56:07 roflmao 2012-08-11T17:58:04 Superman and Batman versus Aliens and Predator 2012-08-11T17:58:35 hey, if it sells ^^ 2012-08-11T17:58:55 im just wondering who the f would read those 2012-08-11T17:59:50 maybe this kind of 'merging of universes' is common in the comics world, idk 2012-08-11T18:00:31 http://alienlovespredator.com/ this is good though 2012-08-11T18:11:01 the only one of those "vs" movies i've ever seen was freddy vs. jason... i don't know why the hell i watched it, though 2012-08-11T18:11:17 it was just stupid 2012-08-11T18:23:15 *** kilae has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 14.0.1/20120713134347]) 2012-08-11T18:24:57 i dont know about that, but predators arent totally unrelated to aliens, since even in the original predator movies there was a hint for the xenomorph 2012-08-11T18:25:49 i think i saw something like that 2012-08-11T18:25:53 freddy kruger? 2012-08-11T18:26:19 i think he had an axe maybe? 2012-08-11T18:26:25 and jason had some sort of mask? 2012-08-11T18:26:31 and i remember water 2012-08-11T18:26:37 and a rowboat 2012-08-11T18:29:09 silent hill 2 had water and a rowboat 2012-08-11T18:31:30 uh 2012-08-11T18:31:43 i really dont think i saw silent hill X 2012-08-11T18:31:56 i dont even know what freddy and jason is 2012-08-11T18:32:09 i think i saw that movie wo knowing the prequels 2012-08-11T18:32:34 but hey, maybe i know them, i saw a couple of scary movies! 2012-08-11T18:32:54 1 2 3 maybe 2012-08-11T18:33:06 ah, im not sure 2012-08-11T18:33:23 it seems as if it happened in another lifetime 2012-08-11T18:40:15 mcstar: i didn't mean the movie 2012-08-11T18:40:54 * mcstar supposes theres something else besides a movie called silent hill 2? 2012-08-11T18:41:11 book? 2012-08-11T18:41:17 mcstar: it started out as a creepy PS1 game 2012-08-11T18:41:28 oh 2012-08-11T18:42:03 survival horror in full 3D with a father looking for his daughter in a misty old town with strange things happening 2012-08-11T18:42:51 it also featured several different paths and endings depending on what you did 2012-08-11T18:43:27 by todays standards it is much too difficult though 2012-08-11T18:44:10 you actually had to _keep_ moving to survive at most times. 2012-08-11T18:44:59 i didnt play with creepy games 2012-08-11T18:45:32 alone in the dark 2 & 3 were also good 2012-08-11T18:45:34 except one, with some psichic component 2012-08-11T18:46:01 It's the mix of shocking action and puzzle solving 2012-08-11T18:46:25 f.e.a.r. 2012-08-11T18:46:35 had no puzzles 2012-08-11T18:47:03 but I liked it, yeah. just a few weeks ago I collected the original + addons. 2012-08-11T18:47:17 i mean, that was the game i referred to 2012-08-11T18:47:23 my personality also made me repackage it all to use up less disk space 2012-08-11T18:47:34 now it is 3.7 GB in a 7zip file ^^ 2012-08-11T18:47:35 i think i was bored, thats why i played it, it was a long time ago 2012-08-11T18:48:13 you packaged up, so that you wont unpack it to play with it, because it would take too much time? 2012-08-11T18:48:18 yes, it was no sequel, an unknown developer... the kind of stuff you gonna play when you are bored 2012-08-11T18:48:47 mcstar: too much time to play through or unpack? 2012-08-11T18:48:54 to unpack 2012-08-11T18:49:09 it would sound like a strategy that i would employ 2012-08-11T18:49:18 hehe, well it is fast enough unfortunately 2012-08-11T18:49:34 for example when i wanted to come off urban terror, i frequently deleted the game 2012-08-11T18:49:40 and i can burn it to a dvd to pass on to someone else 2012-08-11T18:50:03 you deleted and resinstalled it over and over? 2012-08-11T18:50:18 well, you just unzip a zip file.. 2012-08-11T18:50:20 not much to install 2012-08-11T18:50:22 but yeah 2012-08-11T18:50:34 sometimes i even deleted the archive 2012-08-11T18:50:40 Oo 2012-08-11T18:50:45 so that it would take 1:45 hours to download it again 2012-08-11T18:51:02 sometimes i want to throw my notebook out of the window for that reason 2012-08-11T18:51:15 another strategy is to make yourself banned on your favorite servers 2012-08-11T18:51:16 you had leech access to a warez server? 2012-08-11T18:51:36 it is a free game 2012-08-11T18:51:59 sort of like a coutner strike clone 2012-08-11T18:52:04 but has unique features 2012-08-11T18:52:23 mcstar: lol, I once said "Hey how did that sucker show up in my back? He had to run through our friggin spawn and noone got him?!" 2012-08-11T18:52:26 --- kicked 2012-08-11T18:52:29 banned 2012-08-11T18:52:44 I didn't know urban terror was free 2012-08-11T18:52:53 like different gameplays, jumping off of walls, which breeds a totally different gameplay, and there is a stamina-meter, you can run really fast for a short time 2012-08-11T18:53:01 well I played Day of Defeat. started when it was an independent mod 2012-08-11T18:53:10 and you can heal others/yourself, and it really is kind of better than css 2012-08-11T18:53:43 same in DoD with the healing (plugin), stamina system, mountable machine guns and rocket launchers 2012-08-11T18:53:51 objectives other than bombs ^^ 2012-08-11T18:53:52 http://www.urbanterror.info/home/ 2012-08-11T18:54:07 this is kind of a precision game 2012-08-11T18:54:26 i mean, nothing like unreal tournament 2012-08-11T18:54:38 ofc, some say that is a precision game too 2012-08-11T18:55:02 i DONT uderstand those who play that game and clones 2012-08-11T18:55:14 the whole gameplay is a big mess 2012-08-11T18:55:22 but urt is really nice 2012-08-11T18:55:27 i was a pretty good sniper 2012-08-11T18:55:47 i most loved my flick-shots 2012-08-11T18:55:50 i was never good as a sniper 2012-08-11T18:56:24 i prefer rushing in and surprising the enemy 2012-08-11T18:57:21 i think i had a 100K kills in that game all in all 2012-08-11T18:57:44 i played it for 2 years i think 2012-08-11T18:57:44 did the game keep track? 2012-08-11T18:57:52 some servers do 2012-08-11T18:58:52 well the graphics are comparable I think. while quakeIII has the nice bezier curve elements, the half-life engine has more accurate light maps 2012-08-11T19:00:04 I just don't like those modern shooters too much, don't know why 2012-08-11T19:00:33 i mean online games with modern weapons or sci-fi setting 2012-08-11T19:00:34 i messed with ioquake3's source for a couple of days 2012-08-11T19:01:01 i looked at the hl2 leaked source code for a few minutes 2012-08-11T19:01:17 i added a wallhack 2012-08-11T19:01:27 uh oh 2012-08-11T19:01:41 and changed the identification to exploit a leak in b3 2012-08-11T19:01:53 thats the usual server admin software of urt 2012-08-11T19:02:04 well, not leak 2012-08-11T19:02:09 a vulnerability 2012-08-11T19:02:10 leak in b3 ??? 2012-08-11T19:03:08 yeah, if the identification string was of a certain kind, i could fool b3 that im bot, and not joined online 2012-08-11T19:03:10 i only once hacked a dll. someone in a hl1 stargate mod forum asked if the bullet shells could stay longer. 2012-08-11T19:03:35 oh, this wasnt binary hack 2012-08-11T19:03:36 so i estimated the bullet fade time to 0,5 seconds and looked that up in the client dll as a float 2012-08-11T19:03:57 changed it to a few minutes, shot 50 bullets and got 8 FPS ^^ 2012-08-11T19:04:18 i changed urt's source, (b3 is written in python mostly, so it was easy to read) 2012-08-11T19:04:50 so what was the poit? slow down the scene? 2012-08-11T19:04:58 oh 2012-08-11T19:05:08 just the shells stay visible longer? 2012-08-11T19:06:12 anyway, i dont ever want to play this kind of game again 2012-08-11T19:06:27 it was a big effort to come clean 2012-08-11T19:06:31 yes, someone thought it would look good 2012-08-11T19:08:01 so you are a h4xx0r 2012-08-11T19:09:03 :) 2012-08-11T19:09:07 not a good one 2012-08-11T19:09:55 i really hated cheaters 2012-08-11T19:10:01 so what did you do as a bot? 2012-08-11T19:10:09 nothing 2012-08-11T19:10:26 the point was, for the admin to not be able to kick me 2012-08-11T19:10:36 ahahaa 2012-08-11T19:10:38 the sory went like this: 2012-08-11T19:10:40 story* 2012-08-11T19:10:42 great 2012-08-11T19:10:49 i spent a lot of time on a server 2012-08-11T19:10:59 after some time, i was made a moderator 2012-08-11T19:11:16 once the owner had a really bad day or something 2012-08-11T19:11:32 and i asked about why he kicked someone 2012-08-11T19:11:36 i think 2012-08-11T19:11:44 and the result was, that he kicked me 2012-08-11T19:12:01 and thats not the sort of thing that i take lightly 2012-08-11T19:12:13 and noone kicks you without reason 2012-08-11T19:12:22 i mean, i knew i had to take revenge of some sorts 2012-08-11T19:12:34 O:-) 2012-08-11T19:13:07 remember, i was a moderator, i was playing nicely, and asked for a justification for the owner's action 2012-08-11T19:13:14 that guy is an idiot 2012-08-11T19:13:30 he really enjoys being GOD 2012-08-11T19:13:44 anyway, i immediately terminated my play there 2012-08-11T19:14:49 my reasoning was this: if i can fool the system that im a bot, and not joined from the outside, then my ip address wouldnt be the right one 2012-08-11T19:14:58 and he couldnt ban me even if he tried 2012-08-11T19:15:16 a better thing would have been to fake HIS ip address 2012-08-11T19:15:22 lol, tried to fake *his* ip? 2012-08-11T19:15:27 so when he tries to ban me, he would ban himself 2012-08-11T19:15:36 yes yes!!!! 2012-08-11T19:15:45 eherm... cool down 2012-08-11T19:15:48 im just a scriptkiddie for that... 2012-08-11T19:15:55 :) 2012-08-11T19:16:22 remember that internet joke about someone saying his ip is 127.0.0.1 and noone is smart enough to hack him? 2012-08-11T19:16:37 no 2012-08-11T19:16:46 i mean, i havent heard it 2012-08-11T19:17:16 http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-51466.html 2012-08-11T19:19:21 hm 2012-08-11T19:19:29 idk, he had ping timout before too 2012-08-11T19:20:34 because your gay fire wall directed my turn off signal back to me 2012-08-11T19:20:36 lol 2012-08-11T19:20:47 yeah great stuff ^^ 2012-08-11T19:22:53 "this guy is good, my CD-ROM is deleted" 2012-08-11T19:25:12 *** coeus has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-08-11T19:25:47 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJagxe-Gvpw 2012-08-11T19:25:57 *** amstan_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-11T19:25:57 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan_ 2012-08-11T19:26:05 mleise: watch this, 'hacker' caught in a honepot 2012-08-11T19:26:09 honeypot 2012-08-11T19:30:38 I only saw someone typing some commands that failed and downloading random stuff, lol 2012-08-11T19:35:10 no 2012-08-11T19:35:16 it didnt fail downloading 2012-08-11T19:35:31 the guy didnt understand what the commands really ment 2012-08-11T19:35:35 meant 2012-08-11T19:35:44 and why he cant run his scripts 2012-08-11T19:35:56 (the honeypot didnt have perl for example) 2012-08-11T19:36:18 it is quite funny if you follow.. 2012-08-11T19:36:23 *** Chris_0076 has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-11T19:36:40 lol i failed 2012-08-11T19:36:49 "some commands that failed and downloading random stuff" 2012-08-11T19:37:11 mleise: its late 2012-08-11T19:37:15 good nite 2012-08-11T19:37:46 nite 2012-08-11T19:37:51 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: mcstar) 2012-08-11T20:42:42 *** Scooper has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2012-08-11T23:05:13 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge