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It was a good watch, but is has the same problem as Matrix: How can the alien baby grow that much in an empty room? What did it feed on? If that albino freak is genetically a human being, how does it not die in the toxic atmosphere when it hunts down the last survivor in the survival pod? 2012-08-19T08:10:23 erm 2012-08-19T08:10:26 lol 2012-08-19T08:10:38 i can point out your mistake 2012-08-19T08:10:49 let me finish something 2012-08-19T08:10:49 They have probably cut out a few scenes as well, like the one from the preview "why is that door open" 2012-08-19T08:11:35 mcstar: mistake in my logic? i'm curious. unless you say my expectation on the movie was too high to begin with ^^ 2012-08-19T08:18:32 mleise: first and foremost i was very disappointed in that movie 2012-08-19T08:18:57 couple of days ago i watched Alien and Aliens btw 2012-08-19T08:19:21 your first mistake, is that the same thing happens in those movies: the creatures grow wo eating! 2012-08-19T08:19:32 Yup, which I find very strange 2012-08-19T08:19:43 yes me too 2012-08-19T08:19:59 but the movies are great, and after a little while, i didnt mind 2012-08-19T08:20:18 those 2 movies are near perfect 2012-08-19T08:20:20 wowowow, wait. in alien 1 the creature was roaming freely 2012-08-19T08:20:29 really, the stage, the acting, the athmosphere.. 2012-08-19T08:20:30 it could eat cats, food rations etc 2012-08-19T08:20:41 no 2012-08-19T08:20:44 it didnt eat shit 2012-08-19T08:20:51 the creature left john hurt 2012-08-19T08:20:54 they let it go 2012-08-19T08:21:02 and then it ate 2012-08-19T08:21:03 and couldnt eat anything 2012-08-19T08:21:17 it ate cereals and honey and milk 2012-08-19T08:21:26 when the mechanic met him, it was full-grown 2012-08-19T08:21:42 the 'right' man 2012-08-19T08:21:47 that always said right.. 2012-08-19T08:21:59 oh i watched it in german 2012-08-19T08:22:20 guess i missed out on that 2012-08-19T08:22:28 oh, i got to go have lunch 2012-08-19T08:22:33 ill be back like terminator 2012-08-19T08:27:52 some people also suggest that the alien fed on inedible ship interiors, like glass or similar to build their silicon exosceleton. 2012-08-19T08:28:34 lol 2012-08-19T08:29:02 pure speculation 2012-08-19T08:29:13 there is no clue as to what do xenomorphs eat 2012-08-19T08:29:29 Also the drool all the time 2012-08-19T08:29:34 How do they keep that up 2012-08-19T08:29:36 yeah 2012-08-19T08:29:51 when they are not being filmed, they dont drool 2012-08-19T08:30:03 anyway, noone said they have a silicon exoskeleton 2012-08-19T08:30:28 its the headgrabber that built up silicon in its system 2012-08-19T08:31:21 the xenomorph's teeth look like metal scales btw 2012-08-19T08:32:08 mleise: let me read your second objection, im sure i can explain it 2012-08-19T08:32:41 hopefully better than the first 2012-08-19T08:32:49 hm? 2012-08-19T08:33:14 that movie has much bigger problems than those 2012-08-19T08:33:31 where did you watch it btw? 2012-08-19T08:33:53 in the Kammerlichtspiele Celle 2012-08-19T08:34:10 is that a cinema? 2012-08-19T08:34:16 a small local cinema. the picture was a bit blurry, but in 3d 2012-08-19T08:34:37 i read that the visuals and the 3d experience is great 2012-08-19T08:34:44 however bad the plot is... 2012-08-19T08:35:21 mleise: do you mean Shaw's 'child'? 2012-08-19T08:35:32 yes, altough i noticed the human perception is in trouble in the sand storm scene. the images change to fast and there is the problem of missing depth sharpness. 2012-08-19T08:35:36 the squid like creature? 2012-08-19T08:35:47 mcstar: yes, the squid grew like it ate a cow or two 2012-08-19T08:36:02 im focusing on your second objection... 2012-08-19T08:36:31 mleise: can you refresh my memories of that scene? 2012-08-19T08:36:49 i dont remember it hunting down the 'last survivor' of a pod 2012-08-19T08:36:55 ok, Swan fled from the crashing alien ship into the safety pod 2012-08-19T08:36:58 i remember it killing the Engineer 2012-08-19T08:37:17 that was miss. Vickers' pod 2012-08-19T08:37:23 then the head of the android contacted her and told her that the alien was after her 2012-08-19T08:37:34 no 2012-08-19T08:37:36 not alien 2012-08-19T08:37:37 in this moment it came through the door, actually tearing it almost apart 2012-08-19T08:37:39 Engineer 2012-08-19T08:37:45 well the ... yes Engineer 2012-08-19T08:37:52 the big humanoid 2012-08-19T08:37:56 they labeled them Creator in the translation 2012-08-19T08:38:03 ok 2012-08-19T08:38:33 but the squid was in the escape pod 2012-08-19T08:38:46 i think it tried to attack Swan 2012-08-19T08:38:49 Shawn 2012-08-19T08:39:17 no, Shaw, no n 2012-08-19T08:39:21 i think 2012-08-19T08:39:23 anyway 2012-08-19T08:39:31 i think it tried to attack her, grabbed her foot or something 2012-08-19T08:39:51 when came the engineer, she opened the door, and the squid grabbed the engineer 2012-08-19T08:39:59 and shaw got out 2012-08-19T08:40:05 btw, i liked that scnene 2012-08-19T08:40:15 the struggle between the two 2012-08-19T08:41:00 i dont see a problem with the athmosphere there 2012-08-19T08:41:17 and why wouldnt it be breathable for the squid? 2012-08-19T08:41:33 just because it contains shaw's dna? 2012-08-19T08:41:43 not a strong argument i think 2012-08-19T08:42:38 wut? 2012-08-19T08:42:52 I meant the Engineer 2012-08-19T08:43:00 how could it breathe outsides 2012-08-19T08:43:50 It came in without it's suit 2012-08-19T08:44:27 btw the suit reminded me much of the Predator and the alien reminded me of the Alien 2012-08-19T08:44:28 "If that albino freak is genetically a human being" 2012-08-19T08:44:33 i thought you meant the squid 2012-08-19T08:45:18 actually, there might not be much genetic connection between humans and the engineers 2012-08-19T08:45:25 they seeded life on earth 2012-08-19T08:45:30 but not human life 2012-08-19T08:45:31 life 2012-08-19T08:45:43 so we evolved from those fragmants 2012-08-19T08:45:58 and we could have ended up quite different from their dna 2012-08-19T08:46:21 probably humans are much much closer genetically to the squid than to the engineer 2012-08-19T08:47:08 If I'm not mistaken, they compared the DNA from the decapitated Engineer with human DNA and got a 100% match 2012-08-19T08:47:33 That in turn means that they need to breathe the same atmosphere, which they created in their base on that planet 2012-08-19T08:47:56 hm 2012-08-19T08:48:00 good point 2012-08-19T08:48:08 i would say thats the flaw 2012-08-19T08:48:29 right 2012-08-19T08:48:43 theres 1.5 billion years of evolutino between humans and engineers 2012-08-19T08:48:59 who said that? 2012-08-19T08:49:05 i say that 2012-08-19T08:49:09 -.- 2012-08-19T08:49:13 what? 2012-08-19T08:49:21 remember how the film started? 2012-08-19T08:49:26 the oldest paintings dated back 35,000 years they said 2012-08-19T08:49:30 on an empty planet, an engineer drunk something 2012-08-19T08:49:40 yes 2012-08-19T08:49:40 his dna broke down, and seeded life 2012-08-19T08:49:53 uh that scene puzzled me 2012-08-19T08:50:05 now life started 1.5 billion years ago on earth 2012-08-19T08:50:28 there is this disconnect of time scales 2012-08-19T08:50:45 the same engineer seeded life a massively long time ago 2012-08-19T08:50:49 so was that planet in the beginning meant to be earth or what? 2012-08-19T08:51:09 and the same engineer tried to annihilate earth couple of thousand years ago 2012-08-19T08:51:27 (and their ship looked more advanced way back than in the recent past) 2012-08-19T08:51:38 not necessairly earth though 2012-08-19T08:51:50 but it hints at the fact, that they did the same to earth 2012-08-19T08:52:42 mleise: and there is this: the squid that came from Shaw, is like a head-grabber, it impregnates the engineer 2012-08-19T08:53:02 but all the xenimorphs that came from any other being are not able to procreate 2012-08-19T08:53:05 in this way 2012-08-19T08:53:15 only the queen could lay eggs 2012-08-19T08:53:21 from which the headgrabbers grew 2012-08-19T08:58:29 hm, they will release the film on dvd/blu ray on october, 8 2012-08-19T09:01:03 im so stupid 2012-08-19T09:01:12 *** AlliedEnvy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-08-19T09:01:13 im mixing 2 universes 2012-08-19T09:01:22 hl's head-grabbers 2012-08-19T09:01:30 and alien's face-huggers 2012-08-19T09:03:02 I thought it was deliberate. After all HL copied a lot from movies, especially HL2 2012-08-19T09:03:29 so the ship found in Alien 1 was an Engineer ship as well? 2012-08-19T09:03:54 I remember there was a large humanoid creature sitting in a pilot chair 2012-08-19T09:04:11 It was hauler 2012-08-19T09:04:14 minerals 2012-08-19T09:04:27 Oh wait, nvm 2012-08-19T09:05:23 mleise: thats called space-jockey 2012-08-19T09:05:51 and yes, it was the same ship that crashed on lv-423 as the one others on lv-223 2012-08-19T09:06:01 hm 2012-08-19T09:06:07 the first one is not lv-423 2012-08-19T09:06:14 lv-426 maybe 2012-08-19T09:06:29 same kind of ship* 2012-08-19T09:06:52 pairofdice: what were you talking about? 2012-08-19T09:07:46 Nostromos 2012-08-19T09:09:32 oh 2012-08-19T09:09:39 -s 2012-08-19T09:10:12 *g* 2012-08-19T09:10:15 "In Prometheus, it is shown that a lone Engineer was possibly responsible for the creation of the human race. He sacrificed himself as his people left the empty Earth, drinking chemicals that dissolved him and changed his DNA to the planet's first micro-organisms. Humanity soon developed, making the Engineers the ancestors of the human race. As such, human DNA and Engineer DNA are virtually identical (a far-fetched fiction withou 2012-08-19T09:10:25 I hope that's complete 2012-08-19T09:10:45 yes 2012-08-19T09:10:49 complete bullshit 2012-08-19T09:11:25 that doesnt explain anything, just states the well known plot 2012-08-19T09:11:49 ...well it explains that the plot is bullshit 2012-08-19T09:12:04 but the special effects were good 2012-08-19T09:12:14 unfortunately i didnt see those 2012-08-19T09:13:18 mleise: another problem is, why did the engineers tell mankind the location of one of their military bases? 2012-08-19T09:13:28 im talking about the star constellation 2012-08-19T09:13:55 thats quite stupid too 2012-08-19T09:13:55 *** AlliedEnvy has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-19T09:14:02 and i dont see some plausible explanation 2012-08-19T09:15:49 mleise: this movie will have a sequel, ridley planned that from the beginning 2012-08-19T09:16:15 i hope it will complete the first's story line and answers some questions 2012-08-19T09:17:10 oh well, I don't think it can all be explained reasonably. It will go on like the Resident Evil series, becoming more and more unplausible. 2012-08-19T09:17:44 i thought about wathing that 2012-08-19T09:17:55 ive seen 1 and 2 i think, a long time ago 2012-08-19T09:18:08 i wondered how ass-kicking mila yovovich is 2012-08-19T09:18:28 but yea, their ships on the military outpost didn't look like they carried any weapons, and they had trouble controlling their only real weapon there 2012-08-19T09:18:52 that's not a good start to lay out a trap 2012-08-19T09:20:37 there is another hole 2012-08-19T09:20:37 mcstar: she is pretty much ass-kicking, but when she moves in the 123124th Umbrella base with her 12142 clones, tears the ground tiling apart with her *look*, then all her clones get killed and she looks after the bad guy escaping I was kinda disappointed 2012-08-19T09:21:04 :) 2012-08-19T09:21:32 did she have psichic abilities? 2012-08-19T09:21:42 i cant spell that word.. 2012-08-19T09:21:51 yes, she has all kinds of abilities now 2012-08-19T09:22:00 *** AlliedEnvy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-08-19T09:22:34 mleise: did you watch stargate? the latter seasons? 2012-08-19T09:28:21 mcstar: actually no 2012-08-19T09:28:24 only occasionally 2012-08-19T09:28:42 too bad 2012-08-19T09:28:57 instead of RE Afterlife you should just watch the outtakes. They are probably more realistic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A67j2SDHKU 2012-08-19T09:28:58 there is the Ori, the main enemy at that time 2012-08-19T09:29:04 they had psychic abilities 2012-08-19T09:29:07 mcstar: Yes, I've seen so much 2012-08-19T09:29:12 and i think the writers got that right 2012-08-19T09:31:37 *** sevikkk has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-08-19T09:34:07 you mean it made sense and didn't seem overly powerful? 2012-08-19T09:34:20 like just right to make simple minds believe they are gods? 2012-08-19T09:34:39 yeah, it was believable 2012-08-19T09:34:43 *** AlliedEnvy has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-19T09:35:07 mleise: who is that girl with milla? 2012-08-19T09:35:14 ive seen her in some movie before.. 2012-08-19T09:38:48 i don't know 2012-08-19T09:41:06 *** choas has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2012-08-19T09:53:14 *** antimatroid has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) 2012-08-19T09:53:31 *** antimatroid has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-19T10:08:04 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: mcstar) 2012-08-19T10:10:34 *** sevikkk has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-19T10:21:39 *** chacha has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-19T10:32:28 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-19T10:32:33 console crashed... 2012-08-19T10:32:37 Konsole 2012-08-19T10:33:31 when thestinger comes, ill tell him zsh sucks 2012-08-19T10:33:52 first i tried to add a new Konsole profile, with zsh, well, thats what crashed it 2012-08-19T10:34:07 and home/end/delete doesnt work in zsh 2012-08-19T10:34:32 (i hope it is clear that i mean ^^ as a humorous comment...) 2012-08-19T10:47:32 mleise: i did 400 push ups yesterday 2012-08-19T10:49:15 mcstar: standing against a wall? ^^ 2012-08-19T10:49:22 though, i doesnt sounds nearly as impressive when i tell you i didnt do it all at once 2012-08-19T10:49:25 it* 2012-08-19T10:50:09 the first 300 i did by 20, i frequently stood up from the computer and did them 2012-08-19T10:50:24 the last 100 i did in a short time 2012-08-19T10:50:28 that almost killed me 2012-08-19T10:51:07 I can't do that anymore. I used to do 100 when I was a child. 2012-08-19T10:51:45 all you need is a little practice 2012-08-19T10:53:36 In any case it is a respectable count :) 2012-08-19T10:54:39 :) 2012-08-19T11:25:35 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2012-08-19T12:00:36 thestinger: zsh sucks! 2012-08-19T12:01:06 mcstar: why? 2012-08-19T12:01:17 I can't think of a single thing bash does better :P 2012-08-19T12:01:17 it crashed my Konsole! 2012-08-19T12:01:21 mcstar: wat 2012-08-19T12:01:36 i was trying to add a new profile to Konsole, but it crashed 2012-08-19T12:01:49 just after i tryped /bin/zsh into the profile 2012-08-19T12:01:55 typed* 2012-08-19T12:01:58 doesn't seem related to zsh :P 2012-08-19T12:02:02 i know 2012-08-19T12:02:03 just chsh -s /bin/zsh 2012-08-19T12:02:11 and be cool and use termite 2012-08-19T12:02:13 but still, it is one reason it sucks 2012-08-19T12:02:19 i have another 2012-08-19T12:02:26 home/end/delete doesnt work 2012-08-19T12:02:38 mcstar: have to turn them on 2012-08-19T12:02:41 haha 2012-08-19T12:02:46 ok, but still 2012-08-19T12:02:48 let me finish 2012-08-19T12:02:51 at least in vi mode 2012-08-19T12:02:58 and it sucks because of its name 2012-08-19T12:03:16 zhong shao? or what was the person called the shell is named after? 2012-08-19T12:03:19 how lame is that? 2012-08-19T12:03:28 mcstar: just be lazy and install grml-zsh-config to start off with 2012-08-19T12:03:32 the default config sucks 2012-08-19T12:03:44 :( 2012-08-19T12:03:46 doesn't have the nice completion enabled, etc 2012-08-19T12:03:50 or copy stuff from my config 2012-08-19T12:03:51 i didnt come across the way i wanted.. 2012-08-19T12:04:07 i wanted to tell you some asinie reason why zsh sucks 2012-08-19T12:04:14 mcstar: I know :P 2012-08-19T12:04:18 but you are actually trying to help me 2012-08-19T12:04:18 I'm in a crappy mood atm 2012-08-19T12:04:22 my laptop's screen is fucked 2012-08-19T12:04:30 it's blue. 2012-08-19T12:04:34 oh 2012-08-19T12:04:40 meaning, it is sad? 2012-08-19T12:04:42 everything is blue 2012-08-19T12:04:44 pretty much 2012-08-19T12:04:52 it seems some of the columns of pixels have decided to go on vacation 2012-08-19T12:05:01 your laptop is sad, buy her some icecream 2012-08-19T12:05:05 so along with leaving black stripes down the screen, it's blue 2012-08-19T12:05:23 what model? 2012-08-19T12:05:29 i bet it is alienware 2012-08-19T12:05:31 thinkpad t530 2012-08-19T12:05:36 probably a loose cable. 2012-08-19T12:05:37 so close XD 2012-08-19T12:05:50 have to pick one of their partners in toronto and drive there 2012-08-19T12:07:07 thestinger: i dont understand one thing, in bash (~) . .bashrc works, but no in zsh, . .zsh 2012-08-19T12:07:14 not* 2012-08-19T12:07:29 why cant it find a file in the current directory? 2012-08-19T12:07:39 .zshrc 2012-08-19T12:07:58 mcstar: source .zshrc or . ./zshrc will work 2012-08-19T12:08:05 i know 2012-08-19T12:08:10 doesnt answer my quesiton 2012-08-19T12:08:46 mcstar: dunno 2012-08-19T12:08:47 but clearly, this is an incompatibility between zsh and bash 2012-08-19T12:08:54 mcstar: there are several 2012-08-19T12:08:58 oh 2012-08-19T12:09:01 there are config settings to make it more compatible 2012-08-19T12:09:13 (for example it has an emulate sh mode) 2012-08-19T12:09:28 thestinger: is zsh usually installed on linux/unix/osx? 2012-08-19T12:09:49 mcstar: installed by default on os x 2012-08-19T12:10:08 it's not GPL licensed so the BSDs like it a bit more, but they usually use ksh or similar as their default for some reaosn 2012-08-19T12:10:29 yeah, but is it installed? 2012-08-19T12:10:40 not very important, i am just curious 2012-08-19T12:10:54 mcstar: on os x yes 2012-08-19T12:11:04 afaik on linux distros it is not installed by default 2012-08-19T12:11:11 mcstar: yeah, bash is 2012-08-19T12:11:14 dunno about others, I don't think most bsds come with either zsh or bash 2012-08-19T12:13:37 hm, arch/core has dash 2012-08-19T12:14:01 mcstar: ah, figured out why 2012-08-19T12:14:18 . searches $PATH if you don't give a path 2012-08-19T12:14:27 source searches current dir 2012-08-19T12:14:52 aha 2012-08-19T12:19:09 how do i enable ctrl+left in zshß 2012-08-19T12:19:11 ? 2012-08-19T12:19:19 CD 2012-08-19T12:19:21 DC 2012-08-19T12:19:33 direct current? 2012-08-19T12:19:39 mleise: well the good way is to find the terminfo name 2012-08-19T12:20:07 in weechat i cant use ctrl+left/right 2012-08-19T12:20:22 or maybe i solved it idk 2012-08-19T12:20:30 in zsh+weechat it is not working 2012-08-19T12:20:32 i get C and D 2012-08-19T12:20:46 but konsole adds another layer of complexity i think 2012-08-19T12:20:50 mcstar: ctrl-left/right work here in weechat 2012-08-19T12:20:54 mleise: is shift-left okay? :P 2012-08-19T12:21:10 that switches between konsole tabs 2012-08-19T12:21:11 well you can do it via a control code binding anyway for ctrl-left 2012-08-19T12:21:11 thestinger: seriously ? mmm, ok 2012-08-19T12:22:10 there is some emacs-like keybinding that works though 2012-08-19T12:22:20 meta-B and meta-p or something 2012-08-19T12:22:26 I'll try this: 2012-08-19T12:22:27 bindkey “;5D” backward-word 2012-08-19T12:22:27 bindkey “;5C” forward-wordbindkey 2012-08-19T12:24:21 mleise: http://sprunge.us/DbKQ for example with shift-left/right 2012-08-19T12:24:25 why does that beep? 2012-08-19T12:24:45 mleise: do ctrl-v and then ctrl-left to get the escape code 2012-08-19T12:24:59 alt-B alt-F 2012-08-19T12:25:01 or figure out what the terminfo name is (that's better because it's portable between terms) 2012-08-19T12:25:30 i like c-w, c-u, c-k 2012-08-19T12:25:53 i set emacs mode in my .inputrc 2012-08-19T12:26:06 mcstar: zsh doesn't use readline/inputrc 2012-08-19T12:26:14 it has it's own line editor that's nicer 2012-08-19T12:26:29 oh 2012-08-19T12:26:32 if you don't explicitly set vi or emacs mode it infers it from $EDITOR 2012-08-19T12:26:37 or falls back to emacs 2012-08-19T12:27:04 i think i kept EDITOR on vim 2012-08-19T12:27:16 but ofc, that was in .bashrc 2012-08-19T12:27:21 so now it is not set 2012-08-19T12:27:57 ill migrate my .bashrc 2012-08-19T12:28:09 later, probably 2012-08-19T12:28:23 you'll also want the basics like zstyle ':completion:*' menu select 2012-08-19T12:28:25 thestinger: i set the 'fire' prompt 2012-08-19T12:28:46 and loading complist, etc. for colors in completion 2012-08-19T12:29:05 thestinger: maybe ill read your .zshrc 2012-08-19T12:29:13 https://github.com/thestinger/dotfiles/blob/master/.config/zsh/.zshrc#L52 that stuff 2012-08-19T12:29:19 i know 2012-08-19T12:29:24 :) 2012-08-19T12:29:33 and the zmodload zsh/complist before it 2012-08-19T12:30:12 this is good, im eating stuffed eggplant 2012-08-19T12:31:00 thestinger: i have to confess something 2012-08-19T12:31:09 im using kde... 2012-08-19T12:31:18 I know :P 2012-08-19T12:31:26 how? 2012-08-19T12:31:34 did you hack my screen? 2012-08-19T12:31:37 well I know you like KDE applications 2012-08-19T12:31:45 I don't know if you're using kwin though 2012-08-19T12:31:50 well, konsole and dolphin 2012-08-19T12:31:57 mostly konsole 2012-08-19T12:32:05 but now im under full kde 2012-08-19T12:32:08 termite is better :P 2012-08-19T12:32:33 i need session restore, im working with a lot of open documents 2012-08-19T12:32:41 and i want them opened the next time i log in 2012-08-19T12:32:54 mcstar: you can still use i3 as the wm in kde 2012-08-19T12:32:57 i set up a nice environment though 2012-08-19T12:33:00 no 2012-08-19T12:33:05 i want kwin if im in kde 2012-08-19T12:33:41 they added osx like shortcuts for switching between the windows of an application 2012-08-19T12:33:59 and the present window effects are quite fast, even with my integratd vide 2012-08-19T12:34:10 and there is a better taskbar now 2012-08-19T12:34:20 so, 4.9 is quite good 2012-08-19T12:34:30 and otherwise very stable, except that 1 konsole crash 2012-08-19T12:58:58 thestinger: are the {{{}}} comments for vim? 2012-08-19T12:59:07 some directive? 2012-08-19T12:59:08 mcstar: yes 2012-08-19T12:59:11 code folding 2012-08-19T12:59:15 ah 2012-08-19T13:00:14 I also have stuff in zprofile/zshenv though 2012-08-19T13:00:20 *** chacha has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2012-08-19T13:04:22 mcstar: someone is trying to convince me that emacs completely replaces ever using a shell or command-line tools 2012-08-19T13:04:35 heh 2012-08-19T13:04:47 he is right 2012-08-19T13:04:55