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2012-09-01T10:48:11 antimatroidl1: you showed my what you were writing, i showed what i was.... 2012-09-01T10:48:14 i can speed up some of what i've done too 2012-09-01T10:48:23 cause i'm going to use it to generate information for me yet 2012-09-01T10:48:35 i doubt it'll really matter though 2012-09-01T10:49:24 antimatroidl1: why do you write out empty constructors? 2012-09-01T10:49:37 cause i'm that guy 2012-09-01T10:49:45 no, its bad 2012-09-01T10:49:48 it's needed isn't it? 2012-09-01T10:49:52 if there's other constructors 2012-09-01T10:49:56 write out the signature, and dont impolement it 2012-09-01T10:50:01 meh :P 2012-09-01T10:50:06 so that you know you cant copy it accidentally 2012-09-01T10:50:14 or just leave it out entirely 2012-09-01T10:50:36 i was planning to delete it if possible after 2012-09-01T10:50:45 i find it easier to put it in then remove it than vice versa 2012-09-01T10:50:58 just cause i'm terrible at programming :P 2012-09-01T10:51:24 mcstar: there are default copy/assignment methods made though 2012-09-01T10:51:40 unless you define a move constructor or delete them 2012-09-01T10:51:46 thats why i said, write the signature, but dont implement it 2012-09-01T10:51:49 foo(const other &) = delete; 2012-09-01T10:51:50 so there wont be any 2012-09-01T10:51:57 mcstar: deleting it is better 2012-09-01T10:51:59 gives a sane error 2012-09-01T10:52:24 but really fuck C++ :P 2012-09-01T10:52:28 :( 2012-09-01T10:52:37 the effort you have to go through to make that crap exception safe... 2012-09-01T10:52:45 i don't :P 2012-09-01T10:52:56 (*it).first == it->first 2012-09-01T10:52:59 exceptions are for people who get things wrong 2012-09-01T10:53:05 i know 2012-09-01T10:53:05 antimatroidl1: you use exceptions 2012-09-01T10:53:11 i couldn't be bothered changing 2012-09-01T10:53:12 you use standard library containers 2012-09-01T10:53:21 they can throw 2012-09-01T10:53:35 this doesnt matter here 2012-09-01T10:53:38 ofc 2012-09-01T10:53:49 the problem with c++ in the example is that its way too verbose 2012-09-01T10:53:53 but if it's a quick bit of code, why use C++? :P 2012-09-01T10:54:03 cause for me c++ is the fastest 2012-09-01T10:54:08 lack of knowing anything else 2012-09-01T10:54:14 for(std::set >::iterator it=diagram2.nodes[0][c].neighbours.begin(); it!=diagram2.nodes[0][c].neighbours.end(); it++) 2012-09-01T10:54:17 lol ^^ 2012-09-01T10:54:26 antimatroidl1: heard of auto and typedef? 2012-09-01T10:54:29 :) 2012-09-01T10:54:37 remember i'm using really old gcc :P 2012-09-01T10:54:42 antimatroidl1: why? 2012-09-01T10:54:43 for(auto it : diagram2) 2012-09-01T10:54:46 ok, then typedef 2012-09-01T10:54:47 cause i'm retarded 2012-09-01T10:54:53 antimatroidl1: use a modern gcc/clang then 2012-09-01T10:54:54 stuck on osx till monday at least 2012-09-01T10:54:58 antimatroidl1: use clang 2012-09-01T10:55:10 better errors/warnings, faster compile times 2012-09-01T10:55:11 antimatroidl1: if i had to use such long types, i did it with typdefs, it really makes it better 2012-09-01T10:55:19 meh 2012-09-01T10:55:31 once i get back onto ubuntu i'll make it nicer 2012-09-01T10:55:39 like i said, i just got it working from hacking it together :P 2012-09-01T10:55:41 mcstar: btw I fixed my broke scope thing :P 2012-09-01T10:55:53 *** AlliedEnvy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-09-01T10:55:56 what was that? remind me 2012-09-01T10:56:46 mcstar: the little raii/lambda thing I was using 2012-09-01T10:56:50 antimatroidl1: osx has python by default, you could use it maybe 2012-09-01T10:56:51 turned out it was buggy 2012-09-01T10:56:53 had to fix it 2012-09-01T10:57:06 oh? in what way was it broken? 2012-09-01T10:57:13 it relied on the copy being eliminated 2012-09-01T10:57:19 from make_scope_guard 2012-09-01T10:57:20 the lambda did run, didnt it? 2012-09-01T10:57:23 mcstar: yes 2012-09-01T10:57:36 mcstar: well with C++11 it was guaranteed to work 2012-09-01T10:57:38 mcstar: I don't know python well enough 2012-09-01T10:57:39 what copy? 2012-09-01T10:57:51 mcstar: C++ guarantees the return value optimization 2012-09-01T10:57:56 C++11 * 2012-09-01T10:58:00 yes 2012-09-01T10:58:10 but I used it in old code with -O0 and it broke :) 2012-09-01T10:58:19 oh 2012-09-01T10:58:39 calls the lambda twice 2012-09-01T10:58:40 i see, the lambda run when you made the guard? 2012-09-01T10:58:49 (returned it) 2012-09-01T10:59:13 mcstar: yeah 2012-09-01T10:59:48 antimatroidl1: i want a quick break from what ive been doing 2012-09-01T10:59:51 https://gist.github.com/3576108 saner, and it needs .dismiss() anyway 2012-09-01T10:59:59 antimatroidl1: what is the algorithm? wo going through the code 2012-09-01T11:00:12 somehow compiles to the same code 2012-09-01T11:00:13 i have a hockey final in just over 10 hours 2012-09-01T11:00:18 (field) 2012-09-01T11:00:28 gcc is smart enough to avoid actually using a struct 2012-09-01T11:00:36 only prelim 2012-09-01T11:02:56 mcstar: actually, I think it was still buggy before 2012-09-01T11:03:01 even with guaranteed RVO 2012-09-01T11:03:16 because after being moved, the old object still has the destructor called 2012-09-01T11:03:32 but gcc wasn't using the default move constructor at all, it just completely removes the existence of the struct 2012-09-01T11:04:50 well, you could make a class, that takes a void(*)(void) lambda, i think 2012-09-01T11:05:07 and you wouldnt return it or anything 2012-09-01T11:05:34 just capture the resource.. 2012-09-01T11:06:32 well that's how you would use this 2012-09-01T11:06:41 auto stmt_guard = make_scope_guard([stmt] { sqlite3_finalize(stmt); } ); 2012-09-01T11:07:40 if stmt is a pointer 2012-09-01T11:07:47 yes 2012-09-01T11:07:51 but otherwise id capture it with a reference 2012-09-01T11:08:02 auto conn_guard = make_scope_guard([&conn] { sqlite3_close(conn); }); from the same thing 2012-09-01T11:08:12 let me find your code 2012-09-01T11:08:14 conn is a ptr but sqlite sets it (rather than returning it) 2012-09-01T11:10:26 dismiss is nice for locks though 2012-09-01T11:10:28 thestinger: ok, i get it, why do you need the template parameter? 2012-09-01T11:10:38 i dont think you do 2012-09-01T11:10:42 mcstar: because that's the best way to pass a lambda 2012-09-01T11:10:45 each has their own type 2012-09-01T11:10:51 passing as std::function will do a heap allocation 2012-09-01T11:10:56 pretty much guaranteed 2012-09-01T11:11:08 why do you care? 2012-09-01T11:11:17 because heap allocations are really, really slow 2012-09-01T11:11:29 and I want to be able to use this all over (not just for resources) 2012-09-01T11:11:47 but i think id be simpler if you didnt use a template 2012-09-01T11:11:59 it'd* 2012-09-01T11:12:31 why? 2012-09-01T11:12:59 it would just be std::function 2012-09-01T11:16:20 anyway I should really learn more haskell 2012-09-01T11:16:29 conduits look really awesome 2012-09-01T11:17:02 *** Apophis has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T11:17:04 fuck, im looking at this shit why doesnt it compile 2012-09-01T11:17:14 i left out c++11 2012-09-01T11:17:18 *** CIA-81 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-09-01T11:18:15 thestinger: http://sprunge.us/AKQR?cpp 2012-09-01T11:18:56 I know :P 2012-09-01T11:18:58 i think this isnt broken, at least i dont see an immediate problem with it, and you can do whatever you want in the lambda 2012-09-01T11:19:05 but std::function :( 2012-09-01T11:23:28 thestinger: conduits are outdated, use pipes 2012-09-01T11:23:55 hmm, really? 2012-09-01T11:24:05 no :) 2012-09-01T11:24:14 but there is some religous war between the two 2012-09-01T11:24:18 heh 2012-09-01T11:24:27 mcstar: I wish more stuff was included with ghc 2012-09-01T11:24:39 why? 2012-09-01T11:24:49 a week or two ago I was on a quest to find a sane html/xml lib (just for querying) 2012-09-01T11:25:05 that's the kind of thing where using a 0.0.2 version of a lib with no docs sucks 2012-09-01T11:25:41 ending up using tagsoup, which actually has an html5-compliant parser (misleading name) 2012-09-01T11:26:39 thestinger: i hate antimatroid's style of putting the braces 2012-09-01T11:26:47 *** AlliedEnvy has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T11:27:46 mcstar: well the K&R style is the opening { on the same line as the statement 2012-09-01T11:27:54 anything else is silly 2012-09-01T11:28:14 :) 2012-09-01T11:28:21 I make sure that autoindenting doesn't change anything 2012-09-01T11:28:37 :set cinoptions=(0 makes it do what I like doing 2012-09-01T11:28:53 ill try 2012-09-01T11:29:14 it just wraps (), [], etc. like pep8 style python 2012-09-01T11:29:18 thestinger: [No match] 2012-09-01T11:29:29 mcstar: ? 2012-09-01T11:29:39 i tried that option in emacs 2012-09-01T11:29:44 doesnt work... 2012-09-01T11:29:47 *** smiley1983 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2012-09-01T11:29:49 heh 2012-09-01T11:29:49 XD 2012-09-01T11:30:09 *** smiley1983 has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T11:30:14 I'm sure emacs has it 2012-09-01T11:30:21 I just don't know what it's actually called 2012-09-01T11:31:28 but it doesn't work for {} :( 2012-09-01T11:31:50 vim doesn't seem to realize that {} can be used for initializer lists 2012-09-01T11:31:58 well it does... but not with cinoptions 2012-09-01T11:32:23 oh, i didnt follow, what that option was supposed to do 2012-09-01T11:32:31 emacs has the best indenting possible 2012-09-01T11:33:36 heh 2012-09-01T11:33:48 i reformatted his code 2012-09-01T11:33:51 now i can read it 2012-09-01T11:34:14 though, i would have liked if he told me what it was supposed to do 2012-09-01T11:34:26 I'll *show* you 2012-09-01T11:34:55 whats with that dynamic variable? 2012-09-01T11:34:59 *show* 2012-09-01T11:35:04 *** SoldierA1tEater has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2012-09-01T11:35:04 bold 2012-09-01T11:35:17 oh, i thought you are using the CL convention 2012-09-01T11:35:23 *** smiley1983 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-09-01T11:36:00 mcstar: it just means when you wrap a long [] or () to another line, you start the next line after the opening of the ( 2012-09-01T11:36:02 *** CIA-45 has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T11:37:51 http://i.imgur.com/phQzO.png 2012-09-01T11:37:55 thestinger: like that? 2012-09-01T11:38:00 yes 2012-09-01T11:38:06 wait no 2012-09-01T11:38:08 not like that 2012-09-01T11:38:25 actually yes, total brain fuckup there 2012-09-01T11:38:32 ok 2012-09-01T11:38:37 emacs does that with anything 2012-09-01T11:38:46 have to yell at vim to do it :( 2012-09-01T11:38:53 and in c++ mode, tab always indent the right way 2012-09-01T11:39:17 if you select a block, and press tab, it indents the whole thing 2012-09-01T11:39:33 yes 2012-09-01T11:39:36 vim has autoindent too 2012-09-01T11:39:37 with = 2012-09-01T11:39:51 but I can break it with macros 2012-09-01T11:40:02 luckily I don't have to use macros in c++ :P 2012-09-01T11:40:02 yeah, but i mentioned, because you use the tab again 2012-09-01T11:40:08 not another shortcut 2012-09-01T11:40:21 mcstar: my tab already does too many things in vim 2012-09-01T11:40:34 completion, snippets, inserting tabs 2012-09-01T11:40:49 if it did another it would probably break 2012-09-01T11:41:02 we use ctrl meta super alt compose for custom stuff 2012-09-01T11:41:11 :) 2012-09-01T11:41:41 just kidding, anyway, with emacs, we dont rebind simple keys liek tab 2012-09-01T11:41:52 mcstar: neither do most vim users 2012-09-01T11:42:00 custom stuff is perfectly fine implemented as commands 2012-09-01T11:42:15 but I'm a creature of habit and I want tab to do completion, not ^X^O 2012-09-01T11:42:30 and I don't always want to think "do I want file completion, omni completion or a snippet?" 2012-09-01T11:43:23 thestinger: use netbeans, it will take those stuff off of your mind 2012-09-01T11:43:30 heh 2012-09-01T11:43:33 XDD 2012-09-01T11:46:58 thestinger: at least antimatroid and i share the habit of not commenting our codez 2012-09-01T11:47:53 *** rofer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-09-01T11:48:04 it is massively imperative what he did there, im not sure what the code does 2012-09-01T11:48:34 comments are code smell >:) 2012-09-01T11:48:55 little functions with nice names 2012-09-01T11:49:27 and just name all the constants 2012-09-01T11:49:52 constant1 constant2 function1 function2 etc? 2012-09-01T11:50:17 mcstar: f, f', f'', f''', f'''' 2012-09-01T11:50:27 those are derivatives 2012-09-01T11:50:55 by convention 2012-09-01T11:52:35 *** rofer has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T11:55:15 thestinger: btw, i havent used either conduits or pipes 2012-09-01T11:55:36 so you haven't picked a side in the war yet? :P 2012-09-01T11:55:38 are those some abstraction of computation? 2012-09-01T11:55:40 *** rowfur has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T11:55:45 no 2012-09-01T11:55:54 mcstar: they are a replacement for lazy I/O 2012-09-01T11:55:59 i want to try using continuations first 2012-09-01T11:56:07 aha 2012-09-01T11:56:08 because lazy I/O has issues (like not cleaning up resources sanely) 2012-09-01T11:56:16 and it's slow I guess 2012-09-01T11:56:18 yeah, lazy getcontent 2012-09-01T11:56:20 s 2012-09-01T11:56:37 im not sure about slow 2012-09-01T11:57:05 it can happen, that you closed the file, before you read the contents 2012-09-01T11:57:58 thestinger: http://twanvl.nl/blog/haskell/conduits-vs-pipes this blog looks neat 2012-09-01T11:58:03 style-wise 2012-09-01T11:58:24 can already tell it's a pro pipes guy :P 2012-09-01T11:58:39 tags? 2012-09-01T11:59:07 *** rowfur has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2012-09-01T11:59:13 *** rowfur has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T11:59:34 *** rowfur has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2012-09-01T11:59:53 *** rowfur has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T12:01:00 *** rowfur has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T12:09:20 *** rowfur has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4) 2012-09-01T12:12:26 *** rowfur has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T12:13:45 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T12:16:13 *** rofer has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4) 2012-09-01T12:20:53 yay, i think the front velocity selection in the amplitude equaitons maches that of the pfc model 2012-09-01T12:21:00 *** rowfur has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4) 2012-09-01T12:21:00 matches* 2012-09-01T12:21:06 thats good news 2012-09-01T12:21:10 *** rofer has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T12:21:32 *** haradwaith has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-09-01T12:21:54 thestinger: oh, and have you tried org mode? 2012-09-01T12:22:17 it is really great, and theres a vim knockoff too, vim-organizer 2012-09-01T12:26:22 no, should I? 2012-09-01T12:27:32 hmm 2012-09-01T12:28:27 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 2012-09-01T12:32:27 *** smiley1983 has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T12:37:19 *** antimatroidl1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-09-01T12:43:38 *** antimatroidl has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T12:45:13 *** loglog has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-09-01T12:45:27 *** loglog has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T12:51:04 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2012-09-01T12:52:13 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T12:55:54 *** antimatroidl has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-09-01T13:06:29 mleise: whats up? 2012-09-01T13:07:31 hi mcstar. nothing special. 2012-09-01T13:07:46 k 2012-09-01T13:09:59 mcstar: scroll to 00:15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImkjL8jFlVQ 2012-09-01T13:13:32 nice costumes 2012-09-01T13:13:59 *** AlliedEnvy_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T13:18:51 *** AlliedEnvy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-09-01T13:20:07 *** Tombana has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T13:20:48 mleise: thanks, i ended up watching some video in polish with swastikas in it 2012-09-01T13:21:44 *** Tombana has left #aichallenge 2012-09-01T13:23:15 mleise: lol, some english man said V-1 V-2 as vee1 vee2, not fau 2012-09-01T13:23:30 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T13:24:02 *** Tombana has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T13:30:45 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.8) 2012-09-01T13:31:44 mleise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7pnUifv2vI&feature=related 2012-09-01T14:09:44 *** Tombana has left #aichallenge 2012-09-01T14:17:34 *** smiley1983 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-09-01T14:18:28 *** smiley1983 has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T14:18:31 *** choas has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T14:24:21 *** NoxiaZ^ has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T14:27:20 i dont think i should be reading 42 pages long papers... 2012-09-01T14:31:52 *** smiley1983 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2012-09-01T14:32:53 *** smiley1983 has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T15:04:07 *** AlliedEnvy_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-09-01T15:04:54 *** jlund3 has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-01T15:09:07 *** jlund3 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-09-01T15:15:51 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2012-09-01T15:24:35 *** NoxiaZ^ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-09-01T15:36:30 mleise: are you there? 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