2012-09-08T00:09:31 *** dom7b5 has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T00:12:45 *** dom7b5 has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2012-09-08T00:22:37 *** pairofdice has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T00:40:27 *** gak has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-09-08T01:14:50 *** amstan has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 2012-09-08T01:19:49 *** antimatroidl has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) 2012-09-08T01:20:01 *** antimatroidl has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T02:08:41 *** Icebone1000 has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T02:09:10 can someone explain me the algorithm t o get the tiles at the view radius sight? 2012-09-08T02:15:03 Icebone1000: there are a few ways in code 2012-09-08T02:15:41 the slow way is to do a walk/search out from the point until the edge of the radius 2012-09-08T02:16:07 the one in the c# starter kit, I cant get it... 2012-09-08T02:16:12 the fast way is to precalculate the offsets (-2 y, -1 x), (-1 y, -1 x), etc. 2012-09-08T02:16:24 and then you paint the view radius using those offsets around every ant 2012-09-08T02:16:37 dunno what the C# starter does :P 2012-09-08T02:16:47 for (int row = -1 * viewRadius; row <= viewRadius; ++row) 2012-09-08T02:17:06 Icebone1000: does it precalculate offsets? 2012-09-08T02:17:25 yes, than check if the location is one of the offsets 2012-09-08T02:17:51 yeah, so it goes through something like 2 nested loops to find every offset from an ant within the radius 2012-09-08T02:18:08 and stores those offsets (-2, -1), (-1, -1), (-1, -2), etc. 2012-09-08T02:19:12 yes, but I dont get those maths, why -1 * radius, that entire loop doesnt fit in my brain, any link to articles on this? its not trivial is it? 2012-09-08T02:20:00 It's pretty damn trivial 2012-09-08T02:20:34 why it starts at -1? 2012-09-08T02:21:56 wheres the positive offsets, to me theres notting trivial on it ._. 2012-09-08T02:25:14 by the for loop, it will start on row -1, then 0, then 1, then 2, then 3, till out of sight, but its going to the right side 2012-09-08T02:32:27 nvrmind, just got it ¦D 2012-09-08T02:34:12 *** antimatroidl1 has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T02:34:30 *** antimatroidl has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) 2012-09-08T02:35:54 woop 2012-09-08T02:43:25 where can I download the submited bots? like the winners ones? 2012-09-08T02:43:44 ready to test, not the code 2012-09-08T02:45:22 There's links on the frontpage 2012-09-08T02:47:14 they just show ranks 2012-09-08T02:48:51 http://xathis.com/posts/ai-challenge-2011-ants.html 2012-09-08T02:49:39 greentea: http://brunneng.blogspot.fi/2011/12/google-ai-challenge-2011-ants.html 2012-09-08T03:06:44 *** contestbot has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T03:06:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o contestbot 2012-09-08T03:17:07 *** antimatroidl1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-09-08T03:20:11 *** epicmonkey_ has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T03:22:22 *** aarossig has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T03:28:54 *** Icebone1000 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2012-09-08T03:56:54 *** foRei has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T03:59:00 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T06:03:52 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: sleep) 2012-09-08T07:08:14 *** janzert1 has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T07:10:42 *** janzert has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 2012-09-08T07:12:08 *** janzert1 is now known as janzert 2012-09-08T08:05:00 *** replore has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T08:14:35 *** Scooper has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T08:27:14 *** coeus has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T08:31:03 *** SoldierA1tEater is now known as SoldierAntEater 2012-09-08T09:38:00 *** replore has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-09-08T10:29:15 *** cyphase has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.cyphase.com/) 2012-09-08T10:29:46 *** cyphase has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T10:56:23 *** SJRvanSchaik has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T11:43:50 *** Garf has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T11:45:43 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2012-09-08T12:00:47 *** Kingpin13 has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T12:30:22 pairofdice: did you read up on minimum cost perfect matching? 2012-09-08T12:47:31 *** dddd has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T12:47:45 hello 2012-09-08T12:48:00 Not yet 2012-09-08T12:49:07 is there any news about when will next ai challenge take place? 2012-09-08T12:50:12 pairofdice: all the descriptions i read so far sucked 2012-09-08T12:50:52 no news for the time being 2012-09-08T12:53:45 *** dddd has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2012-09-08T13:05:18 *** mleise has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T14:34:04 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T15:04:07 *** pairofdice has quit IRC (Quit: In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni.) 2012-09-08T15:06:11 *** Garf has quit IRC (Quit: Make a new plan, Stan!) 2012-09-08T15:11:41 *** coeus has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-09-08T15:12:46 *** coeus has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T15:14:01 *** Kingpin13 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-09-08T15:25:32 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9-rc1) 2012-09-08T15:25:49 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T15:55:05 *** epicmonkey_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-09-08T16:03:54 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2012-09-08T16:16:36 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T16:18:06 thestinger: did you start doing the phonebook challenge? just asking... 2012-09-08T16:18:12 no 2012-09-08T16:18:34 i finished the alg. that i wrote in c++ for antimatroid 2012-09-08T16:18:48 it is like 10x slower than the pretty haskell one 2012-09-08T16:18:54 fail 2012-09-08T16:19:05 probably doing a lot more work then 2012-09-08T16:19:27 it was supposed to be more efficient 2012-09-08T16:19:59 and i still think the algorithm is better 2012-09-08T16:20:23 but, it is possible, that haskell's lazyness help here 2012-09-08T16:20:30 helps* 2012-09-08T16:22:14 thestinger: http://hpaste.org/74446 2012-09-08T16:26:36 it is possible, that this has a better time complexity, but a big constant factor... 2012-09-08T16:31:17 mcstar: you can delete the copy constructor btw 2012-09-08T16:31:20 the default is fine there 2012-09-08T16:32:23 i wonder why did i write it 2012-09-08T16:33:05 ./foo 2.71s user 0.00s system 99% cpu 2.716 total 2012-09-08T16:33:07 on my laptop 2012-09-08T16:33:40 but you cant compare it to anything else 2012-09-08T16:33:51 its over 10 secs for me :) 2012-09-08T16:33:56 what's the result supposed to be? 2012-09-08T16:34:02 nothing 2012-09-08T16:34:11 the result is commented out 2012-09-08T16:34:15 I know :P 2012-09-08T16:34:22 then what do you mean? 2012-09-08T16:34:27 if I uncomment it 2012-09-08T16:34:34 another diagram 2012-09-08T16:34:52 antimat has this idea of parallal connected lattice points 2012-09-08T16:35:05 which can form a semigroup under a certain definition of multiplication 2012-09-08T16:35:10 (group operation) 2012-09-08T16:35:22 so, you give it 2 diagrams, and get a thiurd one 2012-09-08T16:38:24 thestinger: http://hpaste.org/74448 this is shorter, looks better, faster, and has a much better show function 2012-09-08T16:38:50 well then lets make it faster :P 2012-09-08T16:39:17 the c++ one? 2012-09-08T16:39:20 yes 2012-09-08T16:39:34 too much trouble 2012-09-08T16:39:49 im trying to implement a minimum cost perfect matching atm 2012-09-08T16:43:15 thestinger: btw, it doesnt need to be faster than the haskell one, it only needs to be faster than what antimat has currently 2012-09-08T16:44:02 I'm too lazy anyway 2012-09-08T16:44:30 I need to make a kernel module to expose fsnotify in a sane form 2012-09-08T16:45:12 whats that? 2012-09-08T16:45:33 file alternation callback mechanism? 2012-09-08T16:46:20 thestinger: and for what? 2012-09-08T16:46:40 for an always up-to-date indexing thing, like what rlocate was 2012-09-08T16:46:49 now a dead project that doesn't work 2012-09-08T16:47:08 hm, so why do you work on it? 2012-09-08T16:47:11 curiosity? 2012-09-08T16:47:25 yes, and it's also somewhat useful :P 2012-09-08T18:44:06 *** wentam has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2012-09-08T19:11:18 *** wentam has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T19:12:44 *** Scooper has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2012-09-08T19:23:21 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2012-09-08T20:11:33 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T20:20:17 *** foRei has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-09-08T22:08:18 *** antimatroidl has joined #aichallenge 2012-09-08T23:11:14 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-09-08T23:11:30 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge