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shouldn't be 2012-10-04T13:33:13 it scrolss very sluggishly 2012-10-04T13:33:16 mcstar: which driver are you using? 2012-10-04T13:33:23 nvidia has known bugs that affect cairo 2012-10-04T13:33:25 no dirver 2012-10-04T13:33:29 video driver 2012-10-04T13:33:30 only a screwdriver 2012-10-04T13:33:33 XD 2012-10-04T13:33:34 * thestinger sighs 2012-10-04T13:33:43 what? 2012-10-04T13:33:48 jokes 2012-10-04T13:33:54 you are still not used to my jokes? 2012-10-04T13:34:12 not yet :) 2012-10-04T13:34:16 anyway, after a system update it was slow like the rest of the terminals 2012-10-04T13:34:24 mcstar: like the rest? :P 2012-10-04T13:34:27 and honestly, it felt a little slower 2012-10-04T13:34:36 so there is a bit of truth 2012-10-04T13:34:54 it shouldn't be slower or faster than other terminals 2012-10-04T13:34:57 they should all be the same 2012-10-04T13:34:57 yeah, like terminal/terminator/gnome-terminal.. 2012-10-04T13:35:13 if it feels sluggish something is wrong though 2012-10-04T13:35:18 vte has pretty darn fast rendering 2012-10-04T13:35:21 anyway, i set up my keysbindings for zsh 2012-10-04T13:35:35 and fixed my konsole problem 2012-10-04T13:35:43 gtk-key-theme-name = Emacs 2012-10-04T13:35:44 it kept opening up a new tab on ^D 2012-10-04T13:36:26 mcstar: so which video driver? 2012-10-04T13:36:32 nvidia 2012-10-04T13:36:46 but as i said, it happened after the update before a restart 2012-10-04T13:37:01 *** cyphase has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T13:37:03 related to nvidia's bugs 2012-10-04T13:37:35 anyway, my delete actually works 2012-10-04T13:37:39 and my home/end 2012-10-04T13:37:53 and i can skip words with ctrl+left/right 2012-10-04T13:38:05 yup 2012-10-04T13:38:06 I have that :P 2012-10-04T13:38:07 oh, and added ctrl+del for forward word delete 2012-10-04T13:38:21 https://github.com/thestinger/dotfiles/blob/master/.config/zsh/.zshrc#L185 2012-10-04T13:38:27 thestinger: but this didnt work for me in zsh 2012-10-04T13:38:32 ? 2012-10-04T13:38:41 mcstar: well it doesn't work out-of-the-box 2012-10-04T13:38:49 yeah 2012-10-04T13:38:56 not even with bindkey -e 2012-10-04T13:39:13 that's the default :P 2012-10-04T13:39:18 unless EDITOR is vim 2012-10-04T13:39:31 oh, and another layer of difficulty, is that konsole has 3 profiles for character translation 2012-10-04T13:39:42 mcstar: show me your gtkperf results 2012-10-04T13:39:47 gtkperf > output 2012-10-04T13:39:50 why? 2012-10-04T13:39:51 and set it to 1000 iterations 2012-10-04T13:39:55 curious how slow it is 2012-10-04T13:39:59 it isnt 2012-10-04T13:40:06 just after the update before a restart 2012-10-04T13:40:12 oh 2012-10-04T13:40:14 dont let me repeat this another time 2012-10-04T13:40:18 heh 2012-10-04T13:41:17 thestinger: i dont even have that command 2012-10-04T13:41:27 install it! :P 2012-10-04T13:45:04 http://sprunge.us/BTUg 2012-10-04T13:45:49 wo compositing 2012-10-04T13:45:51 http://sprunge.us/diUa 2012-10-04T13:48:04 hm 2012-10-04T13:48:18 drawing is faster wo compositing, widgets are faster with 2012-10-04T13:48:27 mcstar: how many iterations? 2012-10-04T13:48:31 100 2012-10-04T13:48:36 1000 takes too long 2012-10-04T13:48:52 intel with 100 iterations -> 2.5s 2012-10-04T13:49:01 mcstar: http://sprunge.us/QGJh 2012-10-04T13:49:03 so yeah, nvidia bugs. 2012-10-04T13:49:11 not really 2012-10-04T13:49:18 this is and old pc 2012-10-04T13:49:20 oh 2012-10-04T13:49:23 compared to yours 2012-10-04T13:49:29 which gpu? 2012-10-04T13:49:45 nforce 630/geforce 7050 2012-10-04T13:50:11 ah 2012-10-04T13:50:17 still, this is 10x faster :P 2012-10-04T13:50:32 although, cairo becomes 5x faster by switching from uxa -> sna on intel (which I've done) 2012-10-04T13:51:02 thestinger: do you have any ide how a session manager works? 2012-10-04T13:51:06 idea* 2012-10-04T13:51:19 like gnome-session? 2012-10-04T13:51:31 or like logind 2012-10-04T13:51:40 x session manager 2012-10-04T13:51:59 im not interested in the authetication part 2012-10-04T13:52:14 more like, how does it talk to the window manager 2012-10-04T13:52:35 I don't think it really does 2012-10-04T13:52:39 i find it very very odd that noone had made a session manager for tiling wms so far 2012-10-04T13:52:40 the wm is just another X11 client (in X) 2012-10-04T13:52:48 mcstar: you can use gnome-session with them 2012-10-04T13:52:56 thats messy 2012-10-04T13:53:01 xfce4-session? 2012-10-04T13:53:09 tried that, didnt work out 2012-10-04T13:53:19 so lets make one? :P 2012-10-04T13:53:27 they are not supposed to be used from outside their environment 2012-10-04T13:53:34 thestinger: thats what i was thinking 2012-10-04T13:53:51 theres xsm, the x session manager 2012-10-04T13:53:56 but it has bitrotten 2012-10-04T13:53:58 probably 2012-10-04T13:54:18 if you search hard, you can find it from years ago 2012-10-04T13:54:35 im not even sure how long it was part of xfree86 2012-10-04T13:54:51 its version number is quite low, like 1.0.2 2012-10-04T13:55:25 there is one 'blog' that used it for fvwm 2012-10-04T13:55:59 what exactly does it do though? 2012-10-04T13:56:08 does it actually save the state of something like a terminal? 2012-10-04T13:56:14 or just applications that understand how to handle it 2012-10-04T13:59:18 well, on kde for example, it can restore windows to their previous workspaces 2012-10-04T13:59:29 and open them with the documents they had open 2012-10-04T13:59:37 ah so it would need to work with the wm, if it's like i3 2012-10-04T13:59:44 and open dolphin, where it was 2012-10-04T13:59:52 i think so 2012-10-04T14:00:04 also, that is of secondary concern 2012-10-04T14:00:20 mcstar: http://sprunge.us/RSjj i3 can dump this out 2012-10-04T14:00:21 first, it just should be able to restore programs 2012-10-04T14:00:24 but it has no way to restore it 2012-10-04T14:01:56 what i really want, is for okular to restore its documents :) 2012-10-04T14:02:14 maybe it would be simpler to just write a wrapper around it 2012-10-04T14:02:44 thestinger: like a session manager for a browser 2012-10-04T14:02:59 that saves and restores the tabs 2012-10-04T14:03:05 yeah 2012-10-04T14:03:34 okular can alrady open the docs where you left them 2012-10-04T14:11:14 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: mcstar) 2012-10-04T14:15:20 *** Kingpin13 has quit IRC (Quit: quit) 2012-10-04T14:20:45 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T14:21:08 i cant get ctrl+left/right working in weechat 2012-10-04T14:22:14 *** alehorst has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2012-10-04T14:23:33 *** meduza has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2012-10-04T14:25:09 mcstar: works here :) 2012-10-04T14:25:20 shift-left/right doesn't work 2012-10-04T14:25:42 hm 2012-10-04T14:25:48 i was trying to set it 2012-10-04T14:25:54 but i only get D and C 2012-10-04T14:26:01 I get that for shift-left/right 2012-10-04T14:26:04 CDCDCDCDCDCCCCCCCCCCC 2012-10-04T14:26:06 ctrl works 2012-10-04T14:26:25 shift left/right switches between konsole tabs 2012-10-04T14:26:32 wat 2012-10-04T14:26:37 that's... sad. 2012-10-04T14:26:50 i have ctrl left/right for emacs buffer switch 2012-10-04T14:26:58 in vim at least, ctrl-left/right is like B/W, and shift-left/right is like b/w 2012-10-04T14:27:00 and i want it to work in the console as well as gui 2012-10-04T14:27:20 oh no 2012-10-04T14:27:28 i meant ctrl pgup/down 2012-10-04T14:27:31 oh 2012-10-04T14:27:42 mcstar: I don't thing terminals can see that 2012-10-04T14:27:49 I mean, console applications 2012-10-04T14:27:57 they can't actually see if a mod key is pressed 2012-10-04T14:27:57 wait, we are confused now 2012-10-04T14:28:00 lets sort this out 2012-10-04T14:28:05 it's just that certain combinations send different escapes 2012-10-04T14:28:11 yeah 2012-10-04T14:28:25 should be able to see ctrl-pageup 2012-10-04T14:28:32 anyway, i dont understand why weechat doesnt see my ^[[1;5D 2012-10-04T14:28:38 and ^[[1;5C 2012-10-04T14:28:49 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2012-10-04T14:28:50 cause that would be ctrl+left/right 2012-10-04T14:31:06 oh well it's okay 2012-10-04T14:31:13 terminfo has sequences for dialing phones. 2012-10-04T14:31:31 dial_phone dial DI dial number #1 2012-10-04T14:31:49 pulse pulse PU select pulse dialing 2012-10-04T14:31:56 even works with rotary phones 2012-10-04T14:32:48 thestinger: can you tell me what do you see in a terminal for pressing ctrl+left? 2012-10-04T14:32:52 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-10-04T14:33:00 press ^v before that 2012-10-04T14:33:07 [[1;5D 2012-10-04T14:33:09 I know 2012-10-04T14:33:25 mcstar: just do od -c 2012-10-04T14:33:49 ^v is better 2012-10-04T14:33:53 and it works in vim too 2012-10-04T14:34:04 but od -c lets you do many keypresses :) 2012-10-04T14:34:18 anyway, thats the same 2012-10-04T14:34:26 maybe theres a difference in the config file 2012-10-04T14:34:38 it's an unofficial standard, there's no terminfo for ctrl-left/right 2012-10-04T14:34:47 mcstar: what's your TERM set to? 2012-10-04T14:36:47 xterm 2012-10-04T14:37:12 *** pairofdice has quit IRC (Quit: In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni.) 2012-10-04T14:38:28 thestinger: grep ctrl ~/.weechat/weechat.conf can you paste that? 2012-10-04T14:38:55 http://sprunge.us/aWbB 2012-10-04T14:39:31 thestinger: theres no mention of it 2012-10-04T14:39:38 move_next_word 2012-10-04T14:40:17 so weechat doesnt even see that control sequence as a ctrl+something 2012-10-04T14:40:56 meta2-1;5C = "/input move_next_word" 2012-10-04T14:40:59 ? 2012-10-04T14:41:19 maybe 2012-10-04T14:42:21 meta2 is alt i think 2012-10-04T14:42:29 *** alehorst has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T14:42:43 at least, i have meta2-1;3C for buffer +1 2012-10-04T14:42:56 hm 2012-10-04T14:43:04 maybe ctrl changes 3 to 5 2012-10-04T14:44:20 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: mcstar) 2012-10-04T14:44:45 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T14:44:53 thestinger: working now 2012-10-04T15:00:34 *** knyppeld1nan has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T15:06:03 *** Accoun has quit IRC () 2012-10-04T15:13:28 *** l has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T15:19:54 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T16:03:46 *** foRei has quit IRC (Quit: Bye) 2012-10-04T16:27:14 *** cyphase has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2012-10-04T16:32:25 *** cyphase has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T16:56:17 *** jacob_strauss has quit IRC (Quit: jacob_strauss) 2012-10-04T16:57:51 *** kilae has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.89 [Firefox 15.0.1/20120905151427]) 2012-10-04T17:07:35 *** dici has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2012-10-04T17:46:31 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9) 2012-10-04T17:46:59 *** knyppeld1nan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-10-04T18:05:42 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: mcstar) 2012-10-04T18:12:07 *** Accoun has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2012-10-04T18:18:19 *** Accoun has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T18:24:33 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T18:32:28 *** Scooper has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2012-10-04T20:10:28 *** antimatroidl1 has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T20:10:33 *** antimatroidl has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2012-10-04T20:19:15 *** antimatroidl1 has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 2012-10-04T22:23:05 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.9) 2012-10-04T23:00:53 *** aerique has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-10-04T23:00:53 *** AndrewBC has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-10-04T23:00:53 *** Redgis has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-10-04T23:00:54 *** Zannick has quit IRC (*.net *.split) 2012-10-04T23:06:16 *** aerique has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T23:06:16 *** AndrewBC has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T23:06:16 *** Redgis has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T23:06:16 *** Zannick has joined #aichallenge 2012-10-04T23:50:00 Zannick: ping 2012-10-04T23:50:05 janzert: pong 2012-10-04T23:50:32 do you get staff@aichallenge.com emails? 2012-10-04T23:50:39 no 2012-10-04T23:51:06 ok, then I'll explain a bit. :) 2012-10-04T23:53:02 ok 2012-10-04T23:53:09 someone has been having a bit of a problem registering for the forums, I've got that all straightened out now. But IIRC newly registered users are in a 'trial' group to be sure they aren't bots before fully giving them access now. How do I go about setting him as a regular user since I've already obviously interacted with him? 2012-10-04T23:53:15 username is d2011 btw 2012-10-04T23:54:23 well, the general method is to have him post something and approve it via the mod control panel 2012-10-04T23:54:53 ah, and approving a message automatically sets the user as approved forever? 2012-10-04T23:55:00 I won't worry about it then 2012-10-04T23:55:01 i believe admins can also remove him from the "new users" group which will also lift that restriction 2012-10-04T23:55:40 i think i explained the first bit in my global sticky announcement, but it doesn't show on the main forum page 2012-10-04T23:56:29 sorta related question, is simple disapproving a spam post that's in moderation all that needs to be done? 2012-10-04T23:56:48 or should I be doing something with the user that posted it as well 2012-10-04T23:56:56 i've been disabling the accounts as well 2012-10-04T23:57:06 ok, thanks 2012-10-04T23:57:07 janzert: whatever's easiest for you, i've been deleting them with fire 2012-10-04T23:57:09 mostly because i was tired of having the control panel filled to the brim 2012-10-04T23:57:54 my old method was to delete the user and their posts when I saw them in the forums, so I'll go back to that probably :) 2012-10-04T23:58:10 i was considering performing a mass delete later 2012-10-04T23:58:15 considering the majority of users with 0 posts are spammers anyway 2012-10-04T23:58:23 judging by their website info 2012-10-04T23:58:49 probably, I'd worry a little about wiping out lurkers 2012-10-04T23:59:05 but I suppose they can reregister without too much trouble 2012-10-04T23:59:09 yeah, same, but they could just reregister 2012-10-04T23:59:40 ok, thanks for keeping up with it