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2012-11-14T02:20:58  <sdvzxca> Anyone alive here?
2012-11-14T02:21:07  <thestinger> all undead
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2012-11-14T08:06:13  <mcstar> mleise: are you still messing with aisandbox?
2012-11-14T08:06:28  <mleise> no this is underspecified shit
2012-11-14T08:06:39  <mcstar> eh
2012-11-14T08:07:48  <mleise> like, when is a bot aligned to shoot another bot ?
2012-11-14T08:07:57  <mleise> is there some ε ?
2012-11-14T08:08:14  <mcstar> idk
2012-11-14T08:08:17  <mleise> what if the enemy takes cover while the bot shots
2012-11-14T08:08:27  <mcstar> can you shoot a running bot?
2012-11-14T08:08:28  <mleise> *shoots
2012-11-14T08:08:50  <mleise> yes you can even shoot them in the back cowardly
2012-11-14T08:10:20  <mcstar> do you have to aim?
2012-11-14T08:10:28  <mcstar> is there a projectile, or something?
2012-11-14T08:10:28  <mleise> But I had the idea that I'd place waypoints at every corner of a crate and use some influence mapping logic to keep track of dangers
2012-11-14T08:11:03  <mleise> mcstar: no there is no projectile, but you have to give your bot time to turn to face the opponent
2012-11-14T08:11:03  <mcstar> good ol' influence mapping
2012-11-14T08:11:21  <mcstar> so, you have to stop to fire?
2012-11-14T08:11:35  <mleise> and some time to shoot. but i don't know if the shooting delay is hidden within the turn time
2012-11-14T08:11:59  <mleise> yes, you have to stop which is an additional time penalty especially when you were sprinting
2012-11-14T08:12:36  <mcstar> that sector overlay, is that the view or kill radius?
2012-11-14T08:12:47  <mleise> but I don't know if the bot slows down during that time, or just makes a full stop and the server just adds a delay
2012-11-14T08:12:55  <mleise> the kill radius
2012-11-14T08:13:08  <mleise> view is probably twice that
2012-11-14T08:14:21  <mcstar> mleise: i have access to 26 nvidia bad ass cards atm
2012-11-14T08:14:44  <mcstar> too bad, i cant play any games on them :(
2012-11-14T08:14:45  <mleise> I would take one if I didn't have a notebook ^^
2012-11-14T08:15:01  <mleise> how did you get access to them though ?
2012-11-14T08:15:21  <mcstar> they are part of our clusters
2012-11-14T08:15:47  <mleise> does anyone do GPGPU calculations on them ?
2012-11-14T08:15:52  <mcstar> yes
2012-11-14T08:15:55  <mcstar> but not now
2012-11-14T08:16:00  <mcstar> they are fully mine :)
2012-11-14T08:16:04  <mleise> I thought that's what the Tesla series was for
2012-11-14T08:16:18  <mcstar> well, ive got to have my input data first, then i can start the calculations....
2012-11-14T08:16:22  <mcstar> yes
2012-11-14T08:16:25  <mleise> e.g. GPUs without monitor connectors
2012-11-14T08:16:32  <mcstar> tesla, fermi, kopernikus
2012-11-14T08:16:36  <mcstar> im not sure about thatr
2012-11-14T08:16:40  <mcstar> maybe it is called kepler
2012-11-14T08:17:01  <mcstar> mleise: thats just one feature, they have double precision units too
2012-11-14T08:17:09  <mcstar> and quite a lot of memory
2012-11-14T08:17:36  <mleise> oh so the consumer hardware has single precision only. I never thought about that.
2012-11-14T08:17:37  <mcstar> well, not the early Teslas, but these have
2012-11-14T08:18:14  <mleise> I wish I had more than 256mb video ram
2012-11-14T08:19:07  <mleise> It is swapping a lot in games like AvP 2010 with high tex resolution.
2012-11-14T08:20:41  <mleise> they should make VR controllers with force feedback rifles :D
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2012-11-14T08:21:09  <mcstar> NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 580] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
2012-11-14T08:21:15  <mcstar> thats one
2012-11-14T08:21:26  <mcstar> im not even sure what is its spec
2012-11-14T08:21:33  <mleise> find out
2012-11-14T08:22:34  <mleise> 512 CUDA cores, almost 200 GB/s data transfer, 1.5 gb ram, .... jesus
2012-11-14T08:23:08  <mcstar> it must have more than 1.5gb ram
2012-11-14T08:23:16  <mcstar> im guessing around 4
2012-11-14T08:23:24  <mcstar> and this supposed to be a double-core card
2012-11-14T08:23:32  <mleise> 600W ... alright that would melt any laptop in seconds anyway ^^
2012-11-14T08:24:00  <mcstar> yeah, the server room is air conditioned
2012-11-14T08:24:08  <mcstar> it is VERY load
2012-11-14T08:24:10  <mcstar> loud
2012-11-14T08:24:14  <mcstar> and very hot
2012-11-14T08:24:47  <mcstar> also, that sound comes from the cpu cluster
2012-11-14T08:25:13  <mcstar> they are in slim racks, and have some tubular fans, that run on very high speed
2012-11-14T08:31:44  <mcstar> http://hpaste.org/77723
2012-11-14T08:31:49  <mcstar> thats an old one
2012-11-14T08:35:17  <mleise> Concurrent copy and execution:                 Yes with 0 copy engine(s)
2012-11-14T08:35:28  <mleise> must be older than anticipated by the tool
2012-11-14T08:35:43  <mcstar> no, there are copy engines
2012-11-14T08:35:55  <mcstar> but it does concurrent copying without copy engines
2012-11-14T08:35:56  <mcstar> i think
2012-11-14T08:36:14  <mcstar> i dont think thats a contradiction
2012-11-14T08:37:14  <mleise> well good luck with whatever you compute on these :)
2012-11-14T08:38:32  <mcstar> thanks
2012-11-14T08:38:42  <mcstar> it is going to be a huge waste of electricity
2012-11-14T08:39:07  <mcstar> when i can query the newer cards, ill let you know the specs
2012-11-14T08:42:40  <mleise> there is no need to tell me dry numbers to make me jealous
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2012-11-14T08:57:31  <mcstar> mleise: http://hpaste.org/77727
2012-11-14T09:00:03  <mcstar> http://hpaste.org/77728
2012-11-14T09:00:21  <mcstar> and this is one half of a dual-socket card
2012-11-14T09:00:39  <mcstar> i think thats the better terminology, since they are not on the same die
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2012-11-14T09:28:34  <mcstar> id like to bring home a 9800 at least...
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2012-11-14T12:08:20  <theo`> the site htpp://aichallenge.org seems to be down
2012-11-14T12:11:34  <mcstar> it is supposed to start with http
2012-11-14T12:11:48  <janzert2> theo`: sorry, working on some server issues at the moment
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2012-11-14T12:12:04  <mcstar> janzert: hi!
2012-11-14T12:12:12  * janzert waves
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2012-11-14T12:14:17  <theo`> janzert do you know how many time it will took ?
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2012-11-14T12:14:53  <theo`> to get it back
2012-11-14T12:15:51  <mcstar> why does it matter? the contest is over for a year now
2012-11-14T12:16:19  <mcstar> how much time, btw, time is not countable
2012-11-14T12:18:20  <janzert> well it was supposed to be a simple reboot, but the machine got stuck shutting down so... we'll see now :}
2012-11-14T12:21:32  <mcstar> why oh why do i have to deal with centos
2012-11-14T12:23:58  <theo`> janzert can i find the documentation somewhere else ?
2012-11-14T12:24:49  <mcstar> theo`: github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge
2012-11-14T12:24:51  <mleise> theo`: the github aichallenge repository
2012-11-14T12:24:59  <janzert> what sort of documentation? github https://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge has all the code used for the contest
2012-11-14T12:25:14  <mleise> ok he got it now I think
2012-11-14T12:25:19  <mcstar> nono
2012-11-14T12:25:24  <mcstar> he needs to go to github
2012-11-14T12:25:34  <mcstar> wait, i have the url somewhere...
2012-11-14T12:25:52  <mcstar> mleise: i cant even install emacs on this centos shit
2012-11-14T12:25:57  <mleise> haha
2012-11-14T12:26:07  <mcstar> there is a dependency problem
2012-11-14T12:26:09  <theo`> but is there all game settings and  rules in it ?
2012-11-14T12:26:22  <mleise> theo`: it's the website and more
2012-11-14T12:26:24  <mcstar> theo`: why dont you go and read the wiki?
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2012-11-14T12:27:27  <mcstar> i hate that they had to choose centos
2012-11-14T12:27:28  <mleise> what is this suspicious aigamedev ? it hangs around here like a big advertising :)
2012-11-14T12:27:50  <mcstar> it had the correct infiniband driver, i think, that was the reason
2012-11-14T12:28:36  <mcstar> mleise: ask phil
2012-11-14T12:28:45  * janzert has managed to mostly avoid the centos so far
2012-11-14T12:29:03  <janzert> s/the//
2012-11-14T12:29:25  <mcstar> i just hate the approach: lets try this distro, lets try that distro, and stick with the one, that ships with the network driver, that we use
2012-11-14T12:29:41  <mcstar> just choose the distro, and compile the correct driver, damn it
2012-11-14T12:30:28  <mcstar> i would be much happier with debian
2012-11-14T12:30:37  <mleise> +1
2012-11-14T12:30:56  <janzert> hehe, interesting method all right
2012-11-14T12:30:57  <mleise> I even installed Ubuntu 64-bit on my VPS for extra comfort ^^
2012-11-14T12:31:02  <mcstar> arch is not well suited in that environment, since it is a rolling release distr..
2012-11-14T12:31:52  <theo`> is there any new aichallenge started yet ?
2012-11-14T12:32:38  <mcstar> rpscontest.com
2012-11-14T12:32:51  <mcstar> russianaicup.ru
2012-11-14T12:33:02  <mcstar> aisandbox.org
2012-11-14T12:33:07  <mcstar> .com
2012-11-14T12:33:24  <tsc> in other words, no
2012-11-14T12:34:25  <tsc> why anyone would use any other distro than Gentoo is beyond me :)
2012-11-14T12:35:50  <mcstar> i cant decide if you really mean it, or is it a pure joke
2012-11-14T12:37:53  <tsc> no, i don't really mean it :/
2012-11-14T12:38:41  <mcstar> ok, im releived
2012-11-14T12:38:50  <mcstar> there are people who do
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2012-11-14T12:46:47  <mcstar> weird
2012-11-14T12:47:16  <mcstar> i installed the problematic dependency first with yum, then emacs, and it worked
2012-11-14T12:51:59  <smiley1983> theo`: I'm running TCP games for Ants and Tron here: http://li414-97.members.linode.com/home
2012-11-14T12:52:12  <smiley1983> not really the same as a new aichallenge, though
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2012-11-14T13:23:21  <mcstar> you know what they say, old challenges die hard
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2012-11-14T13:57:30  <mcstar> @tell mom turn off this gipsy music
2012-11-14T13:57:30  <contestbot> mcstar: Error: I haven't seen mom, I'll let you do the telling.
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2012-11-14T15:07:04  <mcstar> have anyone watched some great movie recently?
2012-11-14T15:07:11  <mcstar> scifi or thriller?
2012-11-14T15:17:50  <ramn[]> prometheus, 3/5
2012-11-14T15:19:20  <ramn[]> The Raid 4/5
2012-11-14T15:35:02  <mcstar> ive seen prometheus
2012-11-14T15:35:15  <mcstar> ive had greater expectations than it turned out
2012-11-14T15:36:32  <mcstar> ramn[]: the raid: redemption?
2012-11-14T15:37:17  <mcstar> probably
2012-11-14T15:38:04  <ramn[]> the indonesian one
2012-11-14T15:38:40  <mcstar> yeah
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2012-11-14T17:27:51  <mcstar> thestinger: if i hold on to a python process, by its stdout, and when thet pipe is killed, it will register as an IOError exception, to that python process, right?
2012-11-14T17:32:34  <mcstar> ok, i think thats correct
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