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2013-01-14T03:52:31  <ramn[work]> smiley1983: mornin
2013-01-14T04:12:55  <antimatroid> ramn[work]: it's not morning :P
2013-01-14T04:15:11  <ramn[work]> sure it is!
2013-01-14T04:15:32  <ramn[work]> you an aussie?
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2013-01-14T05:19:49  <smiley1983> ramn[work]: good day :)
2013-01-14T05:20:06  <smiley1983> antimatroid: that skating clip was pretty impressive :)
2013-01-14T05:20:46  <antimatroid> ramn[work]: i am an aussie
2013-01-14T05:20:53  <antimatroid> smiley1983: that's one of the best clips i've ever seen
2013-01-14T05:21:12  <antimatroid> some of it was switch, like the second last trick (360 flip down the huge set of stairs)
2013-01-14T05:21:21  <antimatroid> which is like writing with your left hand
2013-01-14T05:23:38  <smiley1983> I don't really know anything about skating, except that it's an amazing set of skills
2013-01-14T05:29:43  <antimatroid> it's fun
2013-01-14T05:29:48  <antimatroid> requires coordination and balls
2013-01-14T05:29:53  <antimatroid> both of which i'm not the best at
2013-01-14T05:30:54  <antimatroid> obviously the more coordination and skill you have the less balls you need for the same trick
2013-01-14T05:35:19  <aerique> smiley1983: it is unclear to me from different websites what the correct branch is to get the up-to-date tron tcpserver code (see: http://forums.aichallenge.org/viewtopic.php?p=16419#p16419)
2013-01-14T05:39:08  <smiley1983> aerique: currently the master branch is the most up-to-date
2013-01-14T05:39:22  <smiley1983> I should look at pruning some branches or clarifying which ones are active
2013-01-14T05:39:57  <aerique> smiley1983: alright, thanks :)
2013-01-14T05:40:21  <smiley1983> and for tron at least, there is a separate directory for the local standalone version
2013-01-14T05:41:37  <smiley1983> tron_dist
2013-01-14T05:43:07  <smiley1983> antimatroid: I think if I took up skating, I'd be aiming for a very slow, steady building up of skills, parkour style :)
2013-01-14T05:43:40  <antimatroid> parkour style skating is fairly heavily hated on
2013-01-14T05:43:42  <antimatroid> :P
2013-01-14T05:43:47  <antimatroid> just getting air is fun
2013-01-14T05:43:59  <antimatroid> like out of ramps (preferably over gaps into banks/other ramps)
2013-01-14T05:46:48  <smiley1983> when I search "parkour skating" it seems that people use it to refer to some mixture of the two physical activities. I'm just thinking about the safety philosophy, that you practice something you know you can do safely until it's perfect, then increase the difficulty by a tiny step, and practice until perfect again
2013-01-14T05:48:59  <smiley1983> but then, people with such ideas probably gravitate toward activities other than skating :)
2013-01-14T05:50:42  <antimatroid> nah you want to progress where you have most of your tricks "down" (can do them most shots)
2013-01-14T05:50:59  <antimatroid> though bigger gaps etc. you wouldn't do the harder stuff every shot and it'll take you a while before you get it
2013-01-14T05:51:10  <antimatroid> but you get better at falling and you can kick it out until you're ready to commit
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2013-01-14T07:01:54  <antimatroid> smiley1983: bagdadis is playing and they're showing a girls match :(
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2013-01-14T07:35:23  <laumars> morning all
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2013-01-14T07:56:03  <ramn[work]> morning
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2013-01-14T08:30:19  <mcstar> it isnt
2013-01-14T08:30:46  <mcstar> hi
2013-01-14T08:30:56  <mcstar> (this works all the time...)
2013-01-14T08:31:34  <mcstar> antimatroid is always spamming the channel with skater stuff
2013-01-14T08:34:18  <smiley1983> now it's technically morning here
2013-01-14T08:36:46  <mcstar> lucky you
2013-01-14T08:37:48  <mcstar> aichallenge is still dead as fuck
2013-01-14T08:37:59  <mcstar> pardon my french
2013-01-14T08:38:21  <mcstar> not a problem, just stating the obvious
2013-01-14T08:38:25  <smiley1983> I think more than one person is getting impatient for the next challenge :)
2013-01-14T08:39:11  <mcstar> but not the 'right' person
2013-01-14T08:39:14  <thestinger> mcstar: d'accord, je vous pardonne
2013-01-14T08:39:23  <mcstar> pff
2013-01-14T08:39:37  <mcstar> what did you do to stinger?
2013-01-14T08:39:44  <thestinger> qui?
2013-01-14T08:40:14  <mcstar> is french your second language?
2013-01-14T08:40:51  <thestinger> mcstar: yes
2013-01-14T08:41:02  <thestinger> silly canada
2013-01-14T08:41:20  <mcstar> why? thats not too bad
2013-01-14T08:41:32  <mcstar> you could have a nice conversation with JCVD
2013-01-14T08:41:36  <thestinger> mcstar: because the smart kids all got put in french immersion
2013-01-14T08:41:53  <thestinger> so I took french from senior kindergarten through 8th grade
2013-01-14T08:42:00  <thestinger> I didn't take it in high school
2013-01-14T08:42:11  <thestinger> and by 'took french', I mean half the subjects were in french
2013-01-14T08:42:17  <mcstar> so you dont know enough, or as much as you'd like to?
2013-01-14T08:42:17  <thestinger> I learned math, history, etc. in french :p
2013-01-14T08:42:26  <thestinger> mcstar: I'm not very fluent anymore
2013-01-14T08:42:28  <thestinger> hard to remember words
2013-01-14T08:42:33  <thestinger> but I can *read* french very well
2013-01-14T08:42:42  <thestinger> and I can understand spoken french pretty well
2013-01-14T08:43:13  <thestinger> but I haven't used it since 8th grade... so it's hard to string together a sentence :P
2013-01-14T08:43:26  <mcstar> i struggled with german for a long time, in primary, secondary and high school
2013-01-14T08:43:48  <mcstar> i remember exactly shit
2013-01-14T08:43:57  <thestinger> mcstar: but you probably took it as 1 class
2013-01-14T08:44:23  <thestinger> we had english as a class, and most of the other stuff was french
2013-01-14T08:44:25  <mcstar> well, yes, but that wasnt exactly nothing that we learned
2013-01-14T08:44:42  <thestinger> mcstar: yeah but you weren't actually using it
2013-01-14T08:44:45  <thestinger> you were just learning it
2013-01-14T08:44:49  <mcstar> and i was pretty good when i started high school
2013-01-14T08:44:57  <thestinger> we weren't allowed to talk in english in most of our classes
2013-01-14T08:45:01  <ramn[work]> smiley1983: the starter package for tron
2013-01-14T08:45:01  <thestinger> even to each other
2013-01-14T08:45:23  <thestinger> need to borrow a pencil sharpener? you better ask in goddamn french or you're getting yelled at :P
2013-01-14T08:45:25  <ramn[work]> smiley1983: you have? your aichallenge fork, the tron branch <- is this the most up to date?
2013-01-14T08:45:41  <thestinger> good ol' institutionalized schooling system
2013-01-14T08:45:45  <mcstar> i think i would have had been more enthusiastic about french than german
2013-01-14T08:45:56  <thestinger> mcstar: I was enthusiastic about it
2013-01-14T08:45:59  <thestinger> I haven't had any use case for it
2013-01-14T08:46:03  <thestinger> hardly anyone in toronto speaks french
2013-01-14T08:46:10  <thestinger> more people speak chinese, italian, vietnamese
2013-01-14T08:46:15  <mcstar> lol
2013-01-14T08:47:22  <thestinger> mcstar: http://ompldr.org/vaDJrdw from the census pdf
2013-01-14T08:47:52  <thestinger> a lot of people know french *as a second language* that they learned in school
2013-01-14T08:47:59  <thestinger> but they'll never use it again
2013-01-14T08:48:17  <thestinger> in quebec, people will force you to speak french because of their weird nationalism
2013-01-14T08:48:29  <thestinger> but I bet in france most people are equally likely to want to practice their english on you
2013-01-14T08:48:50  <thestinger> so yeah, silly canada
2013-01-14T08:49:36  <thestinger> mcstar: oh and here's a better one
2013-01-14T08:49:53  <thestinger> mcstar: http://ompldr.org/vaDJreA
2013-01-14T08:50:00  <thestinger> so people who learned french as a first language is 1%
2013-01-14T08:50:16  <thestinger> and I doubt many don't know english.... or even speak french at home
2013-01-14T08:50:59  <thestinger> I could run as an MP :p
2013-01-14T08:51:38  <mcstar> how so?
2013-01-14T08:51:56  <mcstar> you mean, you are good with statistics?
2013-01-14T08:52:45  <thestinger> mcstar: no I mean because knowing french is required to go into politics
2013-01-14T08:52:47  <thestinger> but has no other use :)
2013-01-14T08:52:48  <smiley1983> ramn[work]: development took place in the ants-tcp repository (master branch, tron/ directory)
2013-01-14T08:53:10  <thestinger> (in toronto)
2013-01-14T08:53:12  <smiley1983> I think the most recent version was copied over to the aichallenge repo, but am not certain
2013-01-14T08:53:47  <ramn[work]> is the python bot working?
2013-01-14T08:53:57  <ramn[work]> just looked briefly, has references to ants stuff
2013-01-14T08:55:32  <smiley1983> there are ants references all over the place, in both starters and engine
2013-01-14T08:55:49  <smiley1983> there should be a working python starter for tron
2013-01-14T08:56:12  <mcstar> i wonder when will this guy slip on the slope and spill the liquid nitrogen...
2013-01-14T08:59:50  <smiley1983> the play_one_game.sh script will run the python starter against itself, and is working
2013-01-14T09:04:07  <smiley1983> Has anyone using the planetwars server started getting odd strings on the input sometimes? Made me think the server had been hacked, but running a diff against the original source doesn't reveal anything out of place.
2013-01-14T09:05:16  <mcstar> would be some unusual hack..
2013-01-14T09:08:07  <smiley1983> it would be an odd thing to do with access once gained, but I'm still struggling to guess what would cause this to appear now, when it's been seemingly running smoothly for some time
2013-01-14T09:08:19  <smiley1983> of course, maybe it's been happening all the time, I just don't notice
2013-01-14T09:20:59  <mcstar> shit, i cant access the gpu cluster
2013-01-14T09:21:05  <mcstar> clusterfuck
2013-01-14T09:21:18  <thestinger> ;)
2013-01-14T09:22:48  <mcstar> colleague messed with my ssh keys
2013-01-14T09:23:02  <thestinger> :|
2013-01-14T09:29:18  <thestinger> mcstar: https://status.github.com/ it broke ;[
2013-01-14T09:30:23  <thestinger> monthly statistics
2013-01-14T09:30:25  <thestinger> Exception Percentage
2013-01-14T09:30:27  <mcstar> it still shows my shitty software
2013-01-14T09:30:27  <thestinger> 17.5829%
2013-01-14T09:30:34  <thestinger> mcstar: ;(
2013-01-14T09:31:01  <thestinger> how can they possibility have a monthly average of 17.5829% exception rate :|
2013-01-14T09:31:05  <thestinger> possibly*
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2013-01-14T09:32:03  <mcstar> it went up to 3000% once
2013-01-14T09:32:07  <mcstar> thats how
2013-01-14T09:32:20  <mcstar> the windowed average is still isnt low enough
2013-01-14T09:32:56  <thestinger> mcstar: wat
2013-01-14T09:33:02  <mcstar> look at the graph
2013-01-14T09:33:03  <thestinger> how can they have a 3000% exception rate?
2013-01-14T09:33:07  <thestinger> mcstar: I see
2013-01-14T09:33:17  <thestinger> I think their status checker needs a checker
2013-01-14T09:34:05  <thestinger> so they got 30000 requests and 900000 of them failed?
2013-01-14T09:34:09  <thestinger> :|
2013-01-14T09:36:36  <mcstar> lol
2013-01-14T09:36:38  <mcstar> chsh: Your shell is not in /etc/shells, shell change denied
2013-01-14T09:36:48  <mcstar> but chsh -l lists /bin/bash
2013-01-14T09:36:54  <mcstar> when i try to change to bash
2013-01-14T09:38:06  <mcstar> great
2013-01-14T09:38:34  <mcstar> somehow, these network booted machines tried to run zsh when i was ssh-ing into them
2013-01-14T09:38:44  <mcstar> but they didnt have zsh ofc
2013-01-14T09:38:55  <mcstar> and ssh simply failed, as not authenticated
2013-01-14T09:39:17  <mcstar> the log didnt say anything about not finding a shell or similar
2013-01-14T09:39:23  <mcstar> just authentication failed
2013-01-14T09:39:28  <mcstar> worst error message ever
2013-01-14T09:39:50  <mcstar> k, not the worst, but it is pretty bad/confusing
2013-01-14T09:41:40  <mcstar> thestinger: they could have tried to answer a request multiple times?
2013-01-14T09:41:52  <thestinger> dunno :)
2013-01-14T09:42:00  <mcstar> anyway what kind of request?
2013-01-14T09:42:06  <mcstar> anyway, idc really
2013-01-14T09:43:02  <mcstar> also, im hungry
2013-01-14T10:03:08  <mcstar> f this day
2013-01-14T10:03:12  <mcstar> bb
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