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2013-03-26T17:16:11 aha 2013-03-26T17:16:24 val = yield other 2013-03-26T17:16:30 what do you think this does? 2013-03-26T17:16:44 assigns either None or other to val? :p 2013-03-26T17:16:51 * thestinger shrugs 2013-03-26T17:16:55 thats not the whole story 2013-03-26T17:17:01 whats the order of evaluation? 2013-03-26T17:17:25 I guess..... before it yields? 2013-03-26T17:17:33 wait 2013-03-26T17:17:37 * thestinger shrugs 2013-03-26T17:17:40 ;p 2013-03-26T17:18:13 well I answered it for myself 2013-03-26T17:18:16 that's weird 2013-03-26T17:18:18 >>> def f(): v = yield 1 2013-03-26T17:18:20 ... 2013-03-26T17:18:22 >>> from dis import dis 2013-03-26T17:18:24 >>> dis(f) 2013-03-26T17:18:26 1 0 LOAD_CONST 1 (1) 2013-03-26T17:18:28 3 YIELD_VALUE 2013-03-26T17:18:30 4 STORE_FAST 0 (v) 2013-03-26T17:18:32 7 LOAD_CONST 0 (None) 2013-03-26T17:18:34 10 RETURN_VALUE 2013-03-26T17:18:36 I guess it's not weird. 2013-03-26T17:19:35 sry, got distracted 2013-03-26T17:20:01 well, you know about coroutines i guess 2013-03-26T17:20:17 of you call .send() on a generator object, it acts like a coroutine 2013-03-26T17:20:23 *** amstan has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 2013-03-26T17:20:30 the stuff where yield is returns a value 2013-03-26T17:20:59 and then execution resumes after the yield, and send the result as the idk, generated stuff 2013-03-26T17:21:19 ah 2013-03-26T17:21:26 that makes sense 2013-03-26T17:22:04 also, val = (yield other) is the same as before 2013-03-26T17:22:09 the () doesnt change ordering 2013-03-26T17:22:23 it is nice, from a concurrency standpoint 2013-03-26T17:22:42 what does `yield from' return? 2013-03-26T17:22:59 like, return (yield from) ? 2013-03-26T17:23:31 it only returns somethiing other then None if you .send() something to it 2013-03-26T17:23:41 mcstar: no yield from is a thing now 2013-03-26T17:23:42 if you just pull from it, it is None 2013-03-26T17:23:45 yield from f() 2013-03-26T17:23:56 oh 2013-03-26T17:23:58 thats new to me 2013-03-26T17:24:04 3.3 2013-03-26T17:24:06 what does it mean? 2013-03-26T17:24:14 it's like 2013-03-26T17:24:19 for x in f(): yield x 2013-03-26T17:24:22 but... handles stuff better 2013-03-26T17:24:38 oh there 2013-03-26T17:24:41 http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0380/ 2013-03-26T17:24:50 The value of the yield from expression is the first argument to the StopIteration exception raised by the iterator when it terminates. 2013-03-26T17:25:13 what a weird language 2013-03-26T17:25:16 :P 2013-03-26T17:25:44 english or python? 2013-03-26T17:25:49 or PEP 2013-03-26T17:25:56 python 2013-03-26T17:26:01 :) 2013-03-26T17:26:24 * thestinger wonders what else to add to rust's Map trait 2013-03-26T17:26:52 the kitchen sink 2013-03-26T17:26:56 https://github.com/mozilla/rust/blob/incoming/src/libcore/container.rs#L28 2013-03-26T17:27:02 mcstar: well the useful parts of it ;p 2013-03-26T17:27:33 im trying to get something concurrent done in python 2013-03-26T17:27:51 i figured ill be using this generator stuff 2013-03-26T17:28:08 mcstar: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3156/ at least in the future 2013-03-26T17:28:27 go find tulip's repo and use it :P 2013-03-26T17:29:10 Tulip is an information visualization framework written in C++ dedicated to the analysis and visualization of graphs 2013-03-26T17:29:16 that tulip? ^ 2013-03-26T17:29:18 nope 2013-03-26T17:29:26 mcstar: https://code.google.com/p/tulip/ 2013-03-26T17:29:35 you can be the first user! 2013-03-26T17:29:52 no downloads 2013-03-26T17:30:03 -> source 2013-03-26T17:30:04 besides, this stuff doesnt seem to be too complicated 2013-03-26T17:30:45 theres no info on that site 2013-03-26T17:30:51 mcstar: it's in the PEP 2013-03-26T17:31:01 except a link to a pep 2013-03-26T17:31:04 yep 2013-03-26T17:31:06 it'll be in 3.4 anyhow 2013-03-26T17:31:18 * mcstar check his python version 2013-03-26T17:31:28 3.3.0 2013-03-26T17:31:40 mcstar: it works in 3.3 :P 2013-03-26T17:32:07 i checked the version to see how far we are from 3.4 2013-03-26T17:32:35 3.4.0 final: February 22, 2014 2013-03-26T17:38:13 thestinger: what is your first thought/impression, when someone asks you a question over irc, that consists only of a single question mark? 2013-03-26T17:40:04 ? 2013-03-26T17:40:29 mcstar: is this referring to a specific incident? :) 2013-03-26T17:40:42 that happened to me 2013-03-26T17:40:57 you werent there ofc 2013-03-26T17:41:04 im just curious 2013-03-26T17:41:22 * thestinger hasn't had it happen 2013-03-26T17:41:30 i consider this behavior extremely aggrevating and despicable 2013-03-26T17:41:37 my first thought would be "spam bot" 2013-03-26T17:42:13 no bot 2013-03-26T17:42:45 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T17:49:51 *** thestinger1 has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T17:50:01 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) 2013-03-26T17:50:05 *** thestinger1 is now known as thestinger 2013-03-26T17:52:23 *** sh4wn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-03-26T17:57:41 *** sh4wn has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T17:58:39 " When Windows XP was introduced a decade ago, it was awesome. But, it was designed to run on hardware from a decade ago, and interact with technologies from a decade ago." 2013-03-26T17:58:51 i have to laugh on this 2013-03-26T17:59:38 yeah, we went to 128bit architecture, there is no pentium instruction set in the cpu's and besically nobody uses the tcp/ip stack anymore 2013-03-26T18:00:43 honestly, i dont see a reason for someone who uses XP to switch, other than software vendors dropping support deliberately 2013-03-26T18:04:59 *** sh4wn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-03-26T18:05:50 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-03-26T18:11:57 *** amstan_ has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T18:11:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan_ 2013-03-26T18:12:14 *** amstan_ is now known as amstan 2013-03-26T18:12:43 *** sh4wn has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T18:17:14 *** sh4wn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-03-26T18:18:14 *** sh4wn has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T18:24:35 *** sh4wn has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-03-26T18:27:14 *** sh4wn has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T18:49:14 *** thestinger1 has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T18:49:20 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) 2013-03-26T18:49:26 *** thestinger1 is now known as thestinger 2013-03-26T18:53:42 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: mcstar) 2013-03-26T19:50:25 *** thestinger1 has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T19:52:43 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-03-26T19:56:02 *** swabbles is now known as _elmo 2013-03-26T19:56:45 *** _elmo is now known as swabbles 2013-03-26T20:02:26 *** thestinger1 is now known as thestinger 2013-03-26T20:35:32 *** djr_ has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T20:52:48 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-03-26T20:56:02 *** coeus_ has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T21:06:36 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T21:51:49 *** thestinger1 has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T21:52:28 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-03-26T22:14:58 *** djr_ has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-03-26T22:27:26 *** thestinger1 is now known as thestinger 2013-03-26T22:49:53 *** thestinger1 has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T22:51:59 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-03-26T23:00:04 *** thestinger1 is now known as thestinger 2013-03-26T23:07:04 *** yoden has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-03-26T23:07:55 *** yoden has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T23:17:26 *** swabbles has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 2013-03-26T23:19:26 *** swabbles has joined #aichallenge 2013-03-26T23:51:53 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)