2013-04-26T01:03:54 *** UncleVasya has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T01:23:19 *** mceier has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2013-04-26T01:52:38 just had a look at the leaderboard from last contest 2013-04-26T01:52:48 i miss contests :( 2013-04-26T01:53:50 me too 2013-04-26T02:37:39 *** mceier has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T02:51:08 *** mleise has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-04-26T03:11:36 *** antimatroidl has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T03:14:48 *** epicmonkey has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T03:25:59 isn't there anything we can do to get one going? how about we have our own small contest just to warm up? 2013-04-26T03:28:17 there are tcp servers for prev games but they aren't popular. I'm afraid even if we make a new game to run on them there will be no much more contestants. 2013-04-26T03:30:25 or are you talking about the way it was done before? 2013-04-26T03:31:20 The way it was done before, that seems to work pretty well. The tcp servers (while i love them) seem to create an extra hurdle. 2013-04-26T03:35:24 while we can get a lot of people willing to help with game rules and prototype codng, I don't know if here is someone who will take an uninteresting part like setuping site, servers, etc. I think now only an absence of that guy(s) is a show stopper. but maybe i'm wrong :) 2013-04-26T03:36:05 yeah, you might be right. 2013-04-26T03:38:21 maybe we can try come to Janzert with 'hey, here's a game we choise for a small break-up challenge. we are ready to code it on top of epsilon. what else we need to do?' 2013-04-26T03:38:53 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-04-26T03:42:30 @seen smiley1983 2013-04-26T03:42:30 UncleVasya: smiley1983 was last seen in #aichallenge 1 week, 2 days, 1 hour, 12 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: UncleVasya: you asked a few days ago how I found out about nodewar - aerique told me about it here 2013-04-26T03:48:27 *** epicmonkey has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T03:59:02 *** ramn[bip-afk] is now known as ramn[bip-tp] 2013-04-26T04:02:06 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-04-26T04:13:39 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-04-26T04:19:48 *** epicmonkey has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T04:54:23 *** coeus has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-04-26T05:55:09 *** RagingDave has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T06:55:20 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T06:55:31 damn 2013-04-26T07:25:41 *** ramn[bip-tp] is now known as ramn[bip-afk] 2013-04-26T07:26:41 *** ramn[bip-afk] has quit IRC (Quit: Coyote finally caught me) 2013-04-26T07:27:46 *** ramn[bip-tp] has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T08:12:14 *** sigh has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T08:13:24 yeah what has happened to smiley? 2013-04-26T08:13:47 and UncleVasya is right, janzert is the driving force and as far as I know he's far too busy 2013-04-26T08:17:53 antimatroid1: hey 2013-04-26T08:18:09 evening 2013-04-26T08:18:13 what has happened to mleise 2013-04-26T08:18:24 i just saw him visiting in the logs 2013-04-26T08:18:36 he hasnt been around for weeeks 2013-04-26T08:19:18 maybe even months>? 2013-04-26T08:23:40 *** ramn[bip-tp] is now known as ramn[bip-afk] 2013-04-26T08:24:51 *** ramn[bip-afk] is now known as ramn[bip-tp] 2013-04-26T08:24:55 the factorials challenge ended on the 20th 2013-04-26T08:25:27 at least im no longer annoyed by the fact that that prick didnt let me participate 2013-04-26T08:59:14 *** dasd has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T09:03:25 Note to all Users: This is a Federal Government computer system. Use of this system constitutes consent to monitoring at all times. 2013-04-26T09:28:15 *** dasd has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed) 2013-04-26T10:04:13 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T10:04:13 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2013-04-26T10:13:45 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T10:20:02 *** UncleVasya has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T10:34:58 UncleVasya: are you going to switch to linux anytime soon? 2013-04-26T10:36:51 heheh 2013-04-26T10:38:00 i just remember that you told a long time ago that you would like to 2013-04-26T10:38:06 but afaik you are still on XP 2013-04-26T10:38:13 I have Slackware 13, can install it even today. or you asking about actual switch?) 2013-04-26T10:38:32 so i thought, instead of migrating to win7/8 you might want to really consider linux 2013-04-26T10:39:07 yeah, leaving windows behind :) 2013-04-26T10:39:35 yep, but now I'm back to programming a little. Coding nearly every day so I really like that I have familiar environment. 2013-04-26T10:39:52 no,no. no migrating to win7/8 ever :D 2013-04-26T10:40:26 you could earn money on windows more easily than on linux, i think 2013-04-26T10:42:19 next week is the best time to install & configure Linux. I'll be at home all the time. 2013-04-26T10:42:57 will you have internet access? 2013-04-26T10:43:15 It will be nice to make a list of thing I do with computer every day to make migration easier. 2013-04-26T10:43:32 my usual phone acces. 2013-04-26T10:44:52 File manager + foobar2000 (music player) + Opera - these I have launched all time. 2013-04-26T10:45:22 forgot about Miranda (ICQ + IRC + Jabber). 2013-04-26T10:45:29 weird, i dont use any of those 2013-04-26T10:46:13 lol 2013-04-26T10:46:19 this is funny 2013-04-26T10:46:23 *** kilae has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T10:46:28 film, set in the idk, 90's 2013-04-26T10:46:30 sry 2013-04-26T10:46:38 no, 90's might be correct 2013-04-26T10:46:58 and the VHS quality on the TV screen is almost better than the quality of my rip 2013-04-26T10:48:28 UncleVasya: i was kidding, i use those kinds of apps, linux has file managers, music players and even browsers 2013-04-26T10:48:33 Eclipse (android dev) + Visual Studio (pioneer + hackerrank) + Notepad++ (lua, ocaml, file editing) + Git Extensions. 2013-04-26T10:48:44 the good thing though, is that they are available in the console! 2013-04-26T10:49:40 i think it's pretty much anything I need on a new system :) 2013-04-26T10:49:47 *everything 2013-04-26T10:50:20 i finally managed to get monodevelop working with fsharp 2013-04-26T10:54:18 mcstar: did I show my desktop? 2013-04-26T10:55:17 many a times 2013-04-26T10:56:19 :) 2013-04-26T10:58:03 maybe I'll install Slackware later today (or tonight). 2013-04-26T10:58:22 great, but i cant recommend slackware at all 2013-04-26T10:58:30 why? 2013-04-26T10:59:02 in the meantime be amazed by the fact that steve buscemi plays together with steve carell in the incredible burt wonderstone 2013-04-26T10:59:08 thestinger: you too ^ 2013-04-26T10:59:38 mcstar: I hate haskell now, I just had to rebuild 22 haskell packages 2013-04-26T10:59:41 UncleVasya: because i know close to nothing about slackware, but when i read about it it didnt appeal to me at all 2013-04-26T10:59:45 ghc 7.6.3 2013-04-26T10:59:46 fixed 1 bug 2013-04-26T10:59:51 -> rebuild all haskell packages 2013-04-26T10:59:53 yay 2013-04-26T11:00:01 thankfully gcc doesn't work like that... 2013-04-26T11:00:07 thestinger: so the star of broadwalk empire does comedy with steve carell 2013-04-26T11:00:41 also, he was Cyrus the virus from con air 2013-04-26T11:00:51 if im correct 2013-04-26T11:00:54 mcstar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqA577_IoBk 2013-04-26T11:01:12 for some reason youtube-dl needs haskell installed 2013-04-26T11:01:36 thestinger: wtf? 2013-04-26T11:01:47 also i love ricky gervais 2013-04-26T11:01:54 kind of like eddie izzard 2013-04-26T11:02:03 but more heterosexual on stage 2013-04-26T11:02:13 amstan: hey, we chose a game for a break-up challenge and are ready to code it on top of Epsilon. What else we need to do to launch small contest? 2013-04-26T11:02:42 in fact, we didn't, I'm just checking how system works :D 2013-04-26T11:02:54 amstan: hey amstan, good to hear your voice 2013-04-26T11:03:07 get funding, get servers, get a sysadmin willing to serve the workers 2013-04-26T11:03:33 done deal 2013-04-26T11:03:36 lol 2013-04-26T11:03:37 thestinger: thats funny 2013-04-26T11:03:47 mcstar: :) 2013-04-26T11:04:06 amstan: can we stick your answer as a topic for this channel? :D 2013-04-26T11:04:28 thestinger: liam missed 'impressions' 2013-04-26T11:04:43 huh, why is it bleeped 2013-04-26T11:04:44 @topic add How to launch new contest: Get funding, Get servers, Get a sysadmin willing to serve the workers 2013-04-26T11:04:44 amstan: Error: That topic is too long for this server (maximum length: 390; this topic: 419). 2013-04-26T11:04:45 it wasn't on TV. 2013-04-26T11:04:48 aww 2013-04-26T11:04:49 fucking americans ;p 2013-04-26T11:04:56 @topic rm 4 2013-04-26T11:04:56 amstan: (topic []) -- Returns the topic for . is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 2013-04-26T11:05:01 @topic delete 4 2013-04-26T11:05:01 amstan: (topic []) -- Returns the topic for . is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself. 2013-04-26T11:05:07 @topic remove 4 2013-04-26T11:05:07 *** contestbot changes topic to "AI Challenge (sponsored by Google): http://aichallenge.org || Channel Logs: http://contestbot.aichallenge.org || Code Repo: http://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge" 2013-04-26T11:05:09 @topic add How to launch new contest: Get funding, Get servers, Get a sysadmin willing to serve the workers 2013-04-26T11:05:09 *** contestbot changes topic to "AI Challenge (sponsored by Google): http://aichallenge.org || Channel Logs: http://contestbot.aichallenge.org || Code Repo: http://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge || How to launch new contest: Get funding, Get servers, Get a sysadmin willing to serve the workers (amstan)" 2013-04-26T11:05:19 alright 2013-04-26T11:05:39 wait... my name is in brackets for sysadmin 2013-04-26T11:05:49 *** amstan changes topic to "AI Challenge (sponsored by Google): http://aichallenge.org || Channel Logs: http://contestbot.aichallenge.org || Code Repo: http://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge || How to launch new contest: Get funding, Get servers, Get a sysadmin willing to serve the workers" 2013-04-26T11:06:17 so i made an "ai" that can harvest mushrooms automatically 2013-04-26T11:06:22 amstan: so we already found one! :p 2013-04-26T11:06:30 thestinger: the ackerman function choked ghc 2013-04-26T11:06:33 it is destiny, don't deny it 2013-04-26T11:06:53 thestinger: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/16115815/ackermann-very-inefficient-with-haskell-ghc 2013-04-26T11:07:01 funny, this is a regression 2013-04-26T11:07:05 they it is fixed now 2013-04-26T11:07:15 it eats up memory in a couple of seconds 2013-04-26T11:07:26 *** mleise has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T11:07:26 thanks to ghc's crazy allocation rate 2013-04-26T11:07:33 they say* 2013-04-26T11:07:39 hi Frontier 2013-04-26T11:07:45 mleise: HEY 2013-04-26T11:07:50 wtf, where have you been? 2013-04-26T11:08:04 ^ warm welcome 2013-04-26T11:08:22 he heard magic words 'new contest' and showed up 2013-04-26T11:08:29 :) 2013-04-26T11:08:30 oh hi UncleVasya and mcstar ;D 2013-04-26T11:09:04 he's got a script that greps the logs constantly and joins when he sees his nick 2013-04-26T11:09:21 I was playing World of Tanks for a while and then stopped using my computer for a few weeks 2013-04-26T11:09:40 good move 2013-04-26T11:09:43 *and joins when he sees any conversation here 2013-04-26T11:10:33 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-04-26T11:11:10 Maybe we can post a new challenge on kickstarter? :D 2013-04-26T11:11:12 thestinger: so when he says 'lasts' he means lists, right? 2013-04-26T11:11:15 stupid accent 2013-04-26T11:11:20 mcstar: yes ;p 2013-04-26T11:11:34 :) No I'm not a member of Anonymous, I'm still alive and no I don't have any IRC scripts 2013-04-26T11:12:10 I started watching "Mayday" 2013-04-26T11:12:55 tanks, airplanes 2013-04-26T11:13:01 i think submarines are next 2013-04-26T11:13:13 I got pretty addicted to that show. Finally I know why wings look so patched up. 2013-04-26T11:13:20 *** amstan changes topic to "AI Challenge (sponsored by Google): http://aichallenge.org || Channel Logs: http://contestbot.aichallenge.org || Code Repo: http://github.com/aichallenge/aichallenge || How to launch new contest: Handle funding, Get servers, Get a sysadmin willing to serve the workers" 2013-04-26T11:13:32 it's not really a problem of getting funding, i'm sure that can come easily 2013-04-26T11:13:36 the problem is handling it 2013-04-26T11:13:53 you don't want to sudenly have 10k income on your name 2013-04-26T11:16:00 *** mceier has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) 2013-04-26T11:17:51 * mcstar is unsure about that 2013-04-26T11:18:16 * mleise too 2013-04-26T11:18:43 mleise: imdb has next to nothing info on mayday 2013-04-26T11:19:47 10.000 does cause the police to investigate in Canada? Or the financial institutions? Or do you fear you'll spend it all on Whiskey and women? 2013-04-26T11:20:39 women, and drugs 2013-04-26T11:20:59 mleise: it makes the CRA investigate you (canadian version of the IRS) 2013-04-26T11:21:16 cool, now what would that be in Europe? 2013-04-26T11:21:39 im not aware of such actions for 10K 2013-04-26T11:24:59 anyway, theres still cash 2013-04-26T11:25:19 just ask the donor arganization to send the money by mail 2013-04-26T11:25:21 o* 2013-04-26T11:27:03 mcstar: that's not really legal, they have to document where the money went 2013-04-26T11:27:08 i think Cyrus was played by john malkovich? 2013-04-26T11:27:35 yep 2013-04-26T11:28:00 thestinger: they write it up as 'advertisement' 2013-04-26T11:28:02 mcstar: It's a show that's like a documentary about aircraft accidents. they reconstruct the happenings as a movie and mix in commentary of survivors. usually at this point you can't tell why the accident happened. next they show the situation from the investigators' point of view. e.g. how they found the data recorders, looked at parts of machinery, had interviews etc. 2013-04-26T11:28:19 what if they donate servers directly? 2013-04-26T11:28:46 amstan always says google doesnt do cloud services the way the contest needs them 2013-04-26T11:28:52 UncleVasya: well that would be fine without needing charity afaik 2013-04-26T11:28:55 mcstar: they do now 2013-04-26T11:29:02 they didn't when aichallenge was on before 2013-04-26T11:29:09 https://cloud.google.com/products/compute-engine 2013-04-26T11:29:23 Often they explain technical aspects of aviation, like how flaps work or how much fire exposure a flight data recorder can sustain 2013-04-26T11:29:56 whoa, aviation, flaps, fire exposure, flight data recorder, you learned soo many technical terms 2013-04-26T11:30:12 XD 2013-04-26T11:30:29 So you get mystery, thrill and documentary all in one :D 2013-04-26T11:30:47 but there is no drama 2013-04-26T11:31:00 no interpersonal relationships 2013-04-26T11:31:00 Oh sure I just forgot it 2013-04-26T11:31:15 yes when they ask the survivors how they deal with what happened 2013-04-26T11:31:34 some lost friends or family members :( 2013-04-26T11:32:31 or on the positive side, in one episode there were two buddies from the air force flying and landing a damaged machine 2013-04-26T11:33:14 In the cockpit its all about working as a good team and the relation ship between crew members 2013-04-26T11:33:40 lol 2013-04-26T11:33:46 you can hear that on the CVR (cockpit voice recorder) 2013-04-26T11:34:06 i have a dirty mind, sry 2013-04-26T11:34:08 go on 2013-04-26T11:34:20 sometimes the captain is the old and wise type of guy and noone wants to speak up about the lack of fuel 2013-04-26T11:35:18 or the pilots are tired and crash the a/c in panic when the stall warning starts 2013-04-26T11:36:47 I don't know why relationship is the only english word for anything between human beeings :D 2013-04-26T11:37:44 mleise: all i can say wrt mayday, is that flying is dangerous 2013-04-26T11:37:51 lets watch http://www.mojvideo.com/video-south-park-the-entity/f96b2b9aba0b6c57b675 together 2013-04-26T11:38:01 South Park: The Entity 2013-04-26T11:38:11 obvious 2013-04-26T11:39:20 you mean, touche? 2013-04-26T11:39:33 touché? 2013-04-26T11:39:40 yes 2013-04-26T11:39:45 oh there are aircraft in south park 2013-04-26T11:39:49 i think it is a pretty good episode 2013-04-26T11:39:59 and it is relevant 2013-04-26T11:40:29 and we have to celebrate this coming together so man of us, and contemplating on the future of the challenge 2013-04-26T11:40:36 many* 2013-04-26T11:42:06 *** epicmonkey has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T11:47:51 'concentration is the key to my class' 2013-04-26T11:49:09 you have to learn some sports, so we're going to start with a tough one called "catch the ball" :D 2013-04-26T11:49:41 so positions 1 and 2 we can replace with 'contact aikon'? :) 2013-04-26T11:50:27 or in general 'contact google' 2013-04-26T11:52:54 contact glasses 2013-04-26T11:53:37 mcstar: btw, Google Glass is out of law in Ukraine. 2013-04-26T11:53:50 XD 2013-04-26T11:53:53 as a Spy Tools 2013-04-26T11:53:59 XD 2013-04-26T11:54:24 i guess Ukraine has nuclear secrets too? 2013-04-26T11:54:43 can you even buy it? 2013-04-26T11:54:47 oversees? 2013-04-26T11:54:55 meaning, here, in europe 2013-04-26T11:55:07 mcstar: i think it's a criminal to buy it 2013-04-26T11:55:16 criminal offense 2013-04-26T11:55:41 *crime 2013-04-26T11:55:58 sooner or later they will have to legalize it 2013-04-26T11:56:09 the first thing I thought when I heard of the google glasses was "I'm gonna dress like Agent Smith" 2013-04-26T11:56:21 so, what about mobile phones? can you buy ones with built in cameras? 2013-04-26T11:56:58 there are weird laws regarding lock picks too 2013-04-26T11:57:10 yes, because cameras in phones do look like cameras. but I can't by camera that looks like pen or flash drive 2013-04-26T11:57:26 somewhere it is legal to carry them, but you cant use them, somewhere you cant carry them, you need locksmith licence... 2013-04-26T11:57:35 wtf man, they are not effing guns 2013-04-26T11:58:12 are you allowed to dre 2013-04-26T11:58:19 accidental newline 2013-04-26T11:58:31 are you allowed to dress like a regular guy if you are gay? 2013-04-26T11:59:06 i mean, you are conceiling your true sexuality by not wearing leather stuff if you are gay 2013-04-26T11:59:16 so by extension, that is illegal too 2013-04-26T12:00:18 what if i'm gay and don't like leather dress? :D 2013-04-26T12:00:20 concealing& 2013-04-26T12:00:48 well, im just making fun of a stupid law 2013-04-26T12:01:17 mleise: why agent smith? i dont get it 2013-04-26T12:01:27 and i have to say, i have seen the matrix 2013-04-26T12:03:04 It is a computer program and the way agents communicate looks like talking to your google glasses to me, which are a computer as well 2013-04-26T12:03:23 it is a sentient program 2013-04-26T12:03:25 well, on second thought it doesn't make much sense ^^ 2013-04-26T12:03:38 no it doesnt :) 2013-04-26T12:03:54 they have concealed earplugs 2013-04-26T12:04:13 that AS removes when interrogates morpheus alone 2013-04-26T12:04:34 it just felt so matrix like when I thought about overlaying maps based on GPS data while I walk through a city 2013-04-26T12:04:47 again, thats not matrix-y 2013-04-26T12:05:01 not even a tiny bit? 2013-04-26T12:05:04 no 2013-04-26T12:05:19 but im sure there are scifi's with huds 2013-04-26T12:05:27 but in matrix 2 or 3 they have these wireframe camera moves 2013-04-26T12:08:05 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXKx1sX8ESs 2013-04-26T12:08:15 at minute 1, that must be a HUD :D 2013-04-26T12:10:01 mcstar: http://russian.rt.com/article/5708 2013-04-26T12:10:27 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-04-26T12:10:54 oh nono thats not fair 2013-04-26T12:11:07 what a great scene 2013-04-26T12:11:15 no HUD unfortunately 2013-04-26T12:12:11 google glass looks pretty stupid without actual glasses in them 2013-04-26T12:15:18 *** epicmonkey has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T12:17:54 *** Quix0te has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-04-26T12:20:37 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2013-04-26T12:23:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX8yrOAjfKM 2013-04-26T12:25:09 *** chris___0076 is now known as Chris_0076 2013-04-26T12:26:39 i hope it is not a scene from Zion mainframe VR 2013-04-26T12:28:14 'i just have to wait for the hour glass to go away.. ok' 2013-04-26T12:29:13 telling windows to unfreeze 2013-04-26T12:29:19 like thats going to work 2013-04-26T12:30:40 'but, is there a difference?' 2013-04-26T12:31:08 'amatures, whoa' 2013-04-26T12:31:41 'out free trial of kungu has expired' 2013-04-26T12:32:19 lol smith calling support, indian answers 2013-04-26T12:33:08 rofl at the verry end 2013-04-26T12:33:47 next, i cliked the video with the most tits 2013-04-26T12:35:52 mleise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ83EBh3r7g&feature=endscreen&NR=1 2013-04-26T12:36:00 thats the one i clicked, but it was worth it 2013-04-26T12:40:01 that's someones daughter 2013-04-26T12:41:20 :) 2013-04-26T12:43:46 jesus christ, jim carry with long fair hair 2013-04-26T12:47:22 *** epicmonkey has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T12:50:59 *** Quix0te has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T12:54:08 'you need to do something new, something fresh!' 2013-04-26T12:54:17 'i suppose i could hold my poop..' 2013-04-26T12:59:46 'your face got me right in the knee! i told you it was a bad idea!' 2013-04-26T13:01:15 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 2013-04-26T13:06:40 *** mceier has joined #aichallenge 2013-04-26T13:14:00 how old is jim carry? he looks too young 2013-04-26T13:14:24 jesus hes 51 2013-04-26T13:15:03 i think he look 30 in this movie 2013-04-26T13:15:05 s 2013-04-26T13:18:11 *** sigh has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-04-26T13:22:04 let's ask google to donate sysadmin too :D 2013-04-26T13:29:02 'i see it in your eyes, when you do a trick, you are like 80 again!' 2013-04-26T13:29:04 ... 2013-04-26T13:29:08 'im 75!' 2013-04-26T13:31:54 mcstar: i'm ready to burn Slackware 13.37 into laser disc. But I have found Slackware 14 is already out :( 2013-04-26T13:32:29 mcstar: is it a problem? 2013-04-26T13:33:01 why do you want to use slackware ;p 2013-04-26T13:33:17 or does it affects somehow my intention to burn & install v13.37? 2013-04-26T13:33:45 Because it is the only distro I have offline :) 2013-04-26T13:34:08 manual dep handling and ancient software... yay ;p 2013-04-26T13:34:08 i see no point in using slackware either 2013-04-26T13:34:23 but i think that was clear when i told you 2013-04-26T13:34:47 well, also I have 3 years old discs with Ubuntu and SliTaz. But I think they are too old now. 2013-04-26T13:34:50 UncleVasya: cant you just download an arch installer? 2013-04-26T13:35:04 and maybe install software in an internet caffee? 2013-04-26T13:35:26 also, dont use CD's 2013-04-26T13:35:42 it is a place where I have to pay for the internet connection? :D 2013-04-26T13:35:50 no, just for the coffee 2013-04-26T13:36:15 there must be public places where you have internet access 2013-04-26T13:36:30 doesnt your university provide you with campus wide wifi access? 2013-04-26T13:36:59 i'm not _so_ enthusiastic) 2013-04-26T13:37:19 no 2013-04-26T13:37:33 UncleVasya: get yourself debian's whole repo 2013-04-26T13:37:40 UncleVasya: you can download it on like 5 dvds 2013-04-26T13:37:54 why on earth would he do that? 2013-04-26T13:38:05 he doesn't need internet then 2013-04-26T13:38:06 download 5 dvds of outdated software 2013-04-26T13:38:42 though you can mostly do the same with any distro 2013-04-26T13:38:47 just download the whole repo 2013-04-26T13:39:04 UncleVasya: do you have a laptop? 2013-04-26T13:39:16 yep, I have slackware 13.37 dvd :P 2013-04-26T13:39:39 okay, i'm off to burn and install it. KBounce <3 2013-04-26T13:39:57 ok, have fun 2013-04-26T13:40:08 i dont think it will be fun, but try 2013-04-26T13:40:30 it is possible that canonical can ship you disks though 2013-04-26T13:40:46 my opinion is go with arch or ubuntu 2013-04-26T13:40:47 mcstar: or i'll wait for possibility to download arch. 2013-04-26T13:40:49 or windows 7 2013-04-26T13:40:58 but now don't see there's a difference. 2013-04-26T13:41:10 mcstar: :-! 2013-04-26T13:41:19 i just dont want you to waste your ti 2013-04-26T13:41:22 me, thats all 2013-04-26T13:41:42 thanks 2013-04-26T13:43:11 slack 13.37 has gcc-4.5.2 2013-04-26T13:44:15 UncleVasya: the only problem with arch in your scenario is that upgrades after a lot of not upgrading can fail pretty spectacularly 2013-04-26T13:44:36 well, centos 6 has gcc 4.4.6, so, slack is still not the worst... 2013-04-26T13:44:46 where are you going to get the distros from? 2013-04-26T13:44:52 if you have no internet 2013-04-26T13:45:04 also.. you're on irc now.. how is that possible 2013-04-26T13:45:11 amstan: like, when i made my friends distro work after 1.5 years of not upgrading 2013-04-26T13:45:20 I think I'll have a normal internet access in 6-8 months 2013-04-26T13:45:42 he has internet, but it is 3g and slow, afaik 2013-04-26T13:45:43 mcstar: you can do it, it's just not optimal, i did it too(like 6 months) 2013-04-26T13:45:49 amstan: gprs from the phone 2013-04-26T13:45:57 oh, not 3g then 2013-04-26T13:46:22 amstan: i still havent removed initscripts... 2013-04-26T13:46:40 mcstar: lol 2013-04-26T13:46:56 but the system is up to date otherwise 2013-04-26T13:47:06 ill put some time into it, sometime... 2013-04-26T13:47:39 UncleVasya: are you installing it beside, or in place of windows? 2013-04-26T13:48:33 also, research the topic of gprs support before you make the change, if you want to use your phone under linux 2013-04-26T13:48:37 i think i'll left current system too 2013-04-26T13:48:56 leave* 2013-04-26T13:49:23 maybe it's easier to wait 6 more months before messing up with this thing :) 2013-04-26T13:50:03 after this many issues will just dissapear 2013-04-26T13:50:19 so it's not rational to face them now 2013-04-26T13:50:25 hehe 2013-04-26T13:50:35 well, there is some truth to what you are saying 2013-04-26T13:50:42 but this is also the lazier approach 2013-04-26T13:50:49 sounds like an excuse to stick with win, right? :D 2013-04-26T13:50:53 yes 2013-04-26T13:51:01 (which is not a problem..) 2013-04-26T13:51:20 you should finish that card game of yours 2013-04-26T13:52:05 mcstar: i have a printed version of slackbook. printed it 3 years ago when was playing with linux too :) 2013-04-26T13:52:38 i see, you like possessing outdated things 2013-04-26T13:52:52 yeah 2013-04-26T13:53:01 Master of Orion 2 <3 2013-04-26T13:53:15 Need For Speed: Porcshe Unleashed <3 2013-04-26T13:53:37 Praetorians, Rise of Nations, Europa Universalis 3 <3 2013-04-26T13:53:51 FIFA 06 :D 2013-04-26T13:54:12 *** Accoun has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-04-26T13:54:15 just stop 2013-04-26T13:54:22 eu3 is hardly outdated ;p, they redid the whole engine in the newer expansions 2013-04-26T13:54:24 i never heard of so many games in my life 2013-04-26T13:54:36 * thestinger doesn't like it anymore anyway 2013-04-26T13:54:40 classmate gave me FIFA 10 but I'm happy with 06 2013-04-26T13:54:43 too arcadey 2013-04-26T13:54:55 * thestinger likes crusader kings 2 and victoria 2 though :) 2013-04-26T13:55:35 im doing sudoku 2013-04-26T13:55:43 I've heard Victoria 2 is a great gme. 2013-04-26T13:55:44 on paper, when im on the train 2013-04-26T13:55:56 doesnt have the best gfx though 2013-04-26T13:56:21 mcstar: i'm watching in window or use headphones. 2013-04-26T13:57:14 * UncleVasya has a train tomorrow 2013-04-26T13:57:24 and back after a week 2013-04-26T13:57:46 wait 2013-04-26T13:57:58 are you seeing, you stare out of the window, or listen to music? 2013-04-26T13:58:03 saying* 2013-04-26T13:58:04 jesus 2013-04-26T13:58:07 yes 2013-04-26T13:58:22 ok, have a fine trip 2013-04-26T13:59:30 *** Accoun