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2013-06-11T10:56:48  <mcstar> ohai
2013-06-11T11:05:07  <mleise> iaho!
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2013-06-11T11:16:40  <mcstar> argh
2013-06-11T11:16:56  <mcstar> irssi i command you to filter join/leave messages!
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2013-06-11T11:20:10  <mcstar> #kde is silent and doesnt answer me :(
2013-06-11T11:21:18  <mcstar> at least it's free
2013-06-11T11:23:13  <mcstar> wellll i seem to have answered my question
2013-06-11T11:23:19  <mcstar> ty #kde
2013-06-11T11:23:31  <mleise> more people who don't respond to you inquiries?
2013-06-11T11:23:39  <mcstar> aham
2013-06-11T11:23:50  <mleise> sorry :-/
2013-06-11T11:23:56  <mcstar> they are just users not devs probably
2013-06-11T11:24:15  <mleise> yeah, some kind of desktop geeks
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2013-06-11T11:24:23  <mcstar> State your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | Don't delete ~/.kde or ~/.kde4
2013-06-11T11:24:28  <mcstar> mleise: its in the topic ^
2013-06-11T11:24:32  <mcstar> rofl
2013-06-11T11:24:37  <mleise> don't delete .kde? :D
2013-06-11T11:24:42  <mcstar> the config dir
2013-06-11T11:24:43  <mleise> oh rly?
2013-06-11T11:24:45  <mleise> i know
2013-06-11T11:24:48  <mcstar> k
2013-06-11T11:24:54  <mcstar> my guess was spot on :)
2013-06-11T11:25:00  <mcstar> maybe i need to visit #kde-ot
2013-06-11T11:25:36  <mleise> yeah kde-OpenTechsupport is right
2013-06-11T11:29:04  <mcstar> mleise: im writing a kde panel pager for i3
2013-06-11T11:29:16  <mcstar> if you were wondering what i was doing
2013-06-11T11:29:32  <mleise> cool, but what is i3?
2013-06-11T11:29:43  <mcstar> what is awesome?
2013-06-11T11:29:47  <mcstar> cool
2013-06-11T11:30:20  <mcstar> mleise: you havent heard of i3 really? it is thestinger's and my favorite window manager
2013-06-11T11:30:25  <mleise> nope
2013-06-11T11:31:09  <mcstar> well, check it out, it's the best
2013-06-11T11:31:39  <mcstar> it beats awesome in usability and concept, but it's behind customizability
2013-06-11T11:32:22  <mcstar> and its status bar is limited... thats why im going to write a pager for the kde panel
2013-06-11T11:32:54  <mcstar> and i cant use a EWMH compliant pager, cause i3 doesnt handle workspaces like other window managers do
2013-06-11T11:33:23  <mleise> *phone*
2013-06-11T11:35:20  <mcstar> thats weird, i didnt call you
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2013-06-11T11:43:04  <mcstar> Xephyr is quite useful, too bad it doesnt resize the screen on window resize
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2013-06-11T11:47:41  <mcstar> k, kde picked up my applet
2013-06-11T11:51:37  <mleise> mcstar: I happen to have a mother that calls :)
2013-06-11T11:51:56  <mleise> so are you writing this applet in haskeλ ?
2013-06-11T11:58:51  <mleise> http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=Sh-cnaJoGCw
2013-06-11T11:58:58  <mleise> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfLqLK7VdQY
2013-06-11T11:59:05  <mleise> trolls...
2013-06-11T11:59:38  <mcstar> mleise: kde is using c++ mostly
2013-06-11T11:59:55  <mcstar> but there are bindings for scripting langs like ruby and python
2013-06-11T12:00:04  <mcstar> and javascript is also supported for applets i think
2013-06-11T12:00:18  <mcstar> but the built in pager is in c++ and it makes sense to rewrite that
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2013-06-11T12:00:31  <mcstar> cause the graphical part would remain largely the same
2013-06-11T12:01:12  <mleise> Ah so you can use Python?
2013-06-11T12:01:20  <mcstar> could
2013-06-11T12:01:26  <mcstar> ive seen the first one
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2013-06-11T12:05:56  <mcstar> actually, the c++ code for the default pager is at least a 1000 lines, and looks pretty complicated
2013-06-11T12:06:27  <mleise1> probably a lot of checks for errors
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2013-06-11T12:56:03  <mcstar> owner of a lonely heart
2013-06-11T12:57:03  <mcstar> i have this collection of 50 of the best rock ballads
2013-06-11T12:57:21  <mcstar> needless to say it's quite good
2013-06-11T12:59:55  <mcstar> this is the 'driving rock ballads' collection
2013-06-11T13:00:11  <mcstar> turns out, i have an 'absolute rock ballads collection' too
2013-06-11T13:00:29  <mcstar> what happens if i merge the two...
2013-06-11T13:13:34  <mcstar> i think ive used up at least 100 a4 sheets since i started studying
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2013-06-11T13:16:39  <mcstar> i need to write a 3d console for 3d displays
2013-06-11T13:16:43  <mcstar> it would be awesome
2013-06-11T13:16:46  <mcstar> this is the future
2013-06-11T13:45:58  <mleise1> lol, this isn't your brain dump channel... or is it?
2013-06-11T13:48:00  <mcstar> no, i dont dump here the best of my ideas
2013-06-11T13:48:02  <mleise1> is white wedding on one of the collections? Paradise by the dashboard light?
2013-06-11T13:48:42  <mleise1> It's a heartache...
2013-06-11T13:48:54  <mleise1> I need a hero
2013-06-11T13:49:06  <mleise1> damn 80's flash back :p
2013-06-11T13:49:26  <mcstar> Music/UNSORTED/rock'n'roll_party/Absolute Rock Classics - Billy Idol - White Wedding.mp3
2013-06-11T13:49:36  <mcstar> i didnt know i had an UNSORTED folder
2013-06-11T13:50:42  <mcstar> i have lots of paradise
2013-06-11T13:50:52  <mcstar> but no 'by the dashboard light'
2013-06-11T13:50:54  <mcstar> not*
2013-06-11T13:50:55  <mleise1> lol, 72 virgins in there too?
2013-06-11T13:51:10  <mleise1> ok, they paved paradise?
2013-06-11T13:51:49  <mleise1> You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth?
2013-06-11T13:56:12  <mcstar> i have to learn vim macros...
2013-06-11T13:56:46  <mcstar> how do i effing play back a macro??
2013-06-11T14:00:17  <mcstar> nice
2013-06-11T14:00:23  <mcstar> time@macro
2013-06-11T14:00:27  <mcstar> times@macro
2013-06-11T14:02:39  <mcstar> mleise1: http://sprunge.us/IFAM for your pleasure
2013-06-11T14:02:53  <mleise1> à propos macros, don't we have any chat bots left here?
2013-06-11T14:02:58  <mcstar> now, imagine the tunes while you are reading the titles
2013-06-11T14:03:02  <mcstar> contestbot:
2013-06-11T14:03:09  <mcstar> @botsnack
2013-06-11T14:03:10  <contestbot> mcstar: No!
2013-06-11T14:03:20  <mleise1> haha, fine
2013-06-11T14:03:28  <mleise1> @botsnack
2013-06-11T14:03:29  <contestbot> mleise1: An error occured while trying to show the previous error.
2013-06-11T14:03:33  <mleise1> O.o
2013-06-11T14:03:49  <mleise1> @time
2013-06-11T14:03:49  <contestbot> mleise1: 02:03 PM, June 11, 2013
2013-06-11T14:04:03  <mleise1> @help
2013-06-11T14:04:03  <contestbot> mleise1: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
2013-06-11T14:04:14  <mleise1> @commands
2013-06-11T14:04:14  <contestbot> mleise1: action, add, alert, alias, announce, announce add, announce list, announce remove, any, aol, apply, apropos, at, author, azn, ban add, ban list, ban remove, base, binary, bold, cache, calc, call, capabilities, capability add, capability list, capability remove, capability set, capability setdefault, capability unset, capitalize, change, changename, channel, channels, channelstats, chr, cmd, (5 more messages)
2013-06-11T14:04:36  <mleise1> @calc 2*π
2013-06-11T14:04:36  <contestbot> mleise1: Error: The command "calc" is available in the Google and Math plugins.  Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "calc".
2013-06-11T14:04:51  <mleise1> @match calc 2*π
2013-06-11T14:04:52  <contestbot> mleise1: Error: 'calc' is not a valid integer.
2013-06-11T14:04:55  <mcstar> @math::calc Infinity
2013-06-11T14:04:56  <contestbot> mcstar: No!
2013-06-11T14:05:08  <mleise1> @math calc 1+1
2013-06-11T14:05:08  <contestbot> mleise1: 2
2013-06-11T14:05:12  <mcstar> @math calc 1/0
2013-06-11T14:05:12  <contestbot> mcstar: Error: float division by zero
2013-06-11T14:05:18  <mleise1> @math calc 22!
2013-06-11T14:05:18  <contestbot> mleise1: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
2013-06-11T14:05:25  <mleise1> @math calc !22
2013-06-11T14:05:25  <contestbot> mleise1: Error: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
2013-06-11T14:05:42  <mcstar> @math calc "3!"
2013-06-11T14:05:42  <contestbot> mcstar: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)
2013-06-11T14:05:52  <mcstar> wth am i doing
2013-06-11T14:05:55  <mleise1> @math calc 2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9*10*11*12*13*14*15*16*17*18*19*20*21*22*23*24*25*26*27*28*29*30
2013-06-11T14:05:55  <contestbot> mleise1: 265252859812191032188804700045312
2013-06-11T14:06:01  <mcstar> ...
2013-06-11T14:06:05  <mcstar> seriously?
2013-06-11T14:06:14  <mleise1> I really needed to know
2013-06-11T14:06:17  <mcstar> ah
2013-06-11T14:06:20  <mcstar> then its fine
2013-06-11T14:06:36  <mleise1> for no good reason
2013-06-11T14:07:04  <mcstar> i hate that when i redirect `ls` output to a file the color codes are there too
2013-06-11T14:07:18  <thestinger> mcstar: so stop using --color=always
2013-06-11T14:07:19  <mleise1> typically it is set to "auto"
2013-06-11T14:07:25  <mleise1> thestinger: +1
2013-06-11T14:07:25  <mcstar> thestinger: o/
2013-06-11T14:07:32  <mcstar> i cant do that
2013-06-11T14:07:35  <thestinger> why
2013-06-11T14:07:38  <thestinger> --color=auto
2013-06-11T14:07:39  <mcstar> because its nice
2013-06-11T14:07:42  <thestinger> for grep too
2013-06-11T14:07:43  <mleise1> why does your ls not detect the file redirection?
2013-06-11T14:07:43  <mcstar> oh
2013-06-11T14:07:46  <thestinger> grep colors <3
2013-06-11T14:07:53  <thestinger> and git colors
2013-06-11T14:07:56  <mcstar> i see, auto instead of always
2013-06-11T14:08:05  <thestinger> mcstar: it turns it off why piping
2013-06-11T14:08:10  <thestinger> unless you force it
2013-06-11T14:08:21  <thestinger> it just checks isatty on stdout
2013-06-11T14:08:30  <thestinger> RETURN VALUE
2013-06-11T14:08:32  <thestinger>        isatty() returns 1 if fd is an open file descriptor referring to a terminal; otherwise 0 is returned, and errno is set to
2013-06-11T14:08:34  <thestinger>        indicate the error.
2013-06-11T14:08:34  <mcstar> thestinger: i think that part of the .zshrc is from yours :)
2013-06-11T14:08:43  <thestinger> mcstar: I use --color=auto ;p
2013-06-11T14:08:46  <mcstar> alias ls='ls --color'
2013-06-11T14:08:55  <mcstar> did you always?
2013-06-11T14:09:01  <thestinger> --color is always
2013-06-11T14:09:14  <thestinger> alias ls='ls -Ah --color=auto'
2013-06-11T14:09:17  <mcstar> did you always use that?
2013-06-11T14:09:24  <thestinger> mcstar: I never used --color
2013-06-11T14:09:26  <thestinger> ;p
2013-06-11T14:09:40  <mcstar> nvm then
2013-06-11T14:10:52  <mcstar> thestinger: weechat is still crashing for me
2013-06-11T14:11:01  <thestinger> heh
2013-06-11T14:11:04  <thestinger> mcstar: plugin?
2013-06-11T14:11:10  <mcstar> i havent changed anything
2013-06-11T14:11:24  <thestinger> meh, weechat isn't great software - they don't do much testing (if any?)
2013-06-11T14:11:35  <mcstar> well, it was ok for me
2013-06-11T14:11:38  <mcstar> and it was configured
2013-06-11T14:11:40  <thestinger> typing long lines has been broken for me for a while
2013-06-11T14:11:42  <mcstar> irssi is annoying
2013-06-11T14:11:47  <thestinger> irssi isn't maintained
2013-06-11T14:11:54  <thestinger> it's horribly broken
2013-06-11T14:11:54  <mcstar> that doesnt matter
2013-06-11T14:11:55  <thestinger> :D
2013-06-11T14:12:00  <mcstar> the problem is that i didnt configure it
2013-06-11T14:12:40  <mcstar> oh
2013-06-11T14:12:43  <mcstar> i have an idea
2013-06-11T14:12:50  <mcstar> it might be perl related
2013-06-11T14:13:00  <mcstar> let me upgrade weechat
2013-06-11T14:13:23  <thestinger> partial updates? :0
2013-06-11T14:13:25  <thestinger> ;p
2013-06-11T14:13:34  <thestinger> mcstar: did you do the /bin update yet
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2013-06-11T14:13:54  <mcstar> nope
2013-06-11T14:13:59  <mcstar> but weechat is working :)
2013-06-11T14:14:11  <mcstar> there was a perl version mismatch that i needed to fix
2013-06-11T14:14:20  <mcstar> and that resulted in weechat not working i think
2013-06-11T14:15:16  <mcstar> ill only upgrade my system after june
2013-06-11T14:16:56  <thestinger> 14:13:34  thestinger | mcstar: did you do the /bin update yet
2013-06-11T14:17:05  <thestinger> mcstar: why not just stay up to date?
2013-06-11T14:17:06  <thestinger> ;p
2013-06-11T14:18:10  <mcstar> thestinger: i said nope
2013-06-11T14:18:23  <mcstar> and i dont have time to upgrade
2013-06-11T14:18:27  <mcstar> or to potentially break something
2013-06-11T14:19:19  <mcstar> i dont really know why did i have to switch to i3 either
2013-06-11T14:19:34  <mcstar> im a retard when it comes to task/time management
2013-06-11T14:22:23  <thestinger> mcstar: if you stay up-to-date nothing will break ;p
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2013-06-11T15:02:48  <mcstar> "you hurt my daughter, tommy, then your questions about god will get answered, personally!"
2013-06-11T15:05:29  <mcstar> thestinger: heh, Matt from SGU just turned up in Defiance
2013-06-11T15:05:46  <mcstar> he was aboard a Votan ship in hypersleep
2013-06-11T15:06:13  <mcstar> maybe they are merging scifi universes..
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2013-06-11T15:45:25  <mcstar> well, matt just died
2013-06-11T15:50:10  <mcstar> nah, he isnt dead
2013-06-11T15:50:25  <mcstar> i wish here were
2013-06-11T15:50:37  <mcstar> cause he is an indogene hybrid now
2013-06-11T15:50:47  <mcstar> and an assassing
2013-06-11T15:50:49  <mcstar> -g
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2013-06-11T16:20:54  <mcstar> this wigner-eckart theorem is pretty subtle
2013-06-11T16:26:52  <mcstar> maybe i should take a break, and work on the plasmoid, finally
2013-06-11T16:45:19  <mcstar> i like that i3 lets you reload the config file wo restarting i3 in place
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2013-06-11T16:54:41  <mcstar> thestinger: the i3-py-git aur package is for python3, i installed it for python2, i hope it wont break
2013-06-11T16:55:06  <mcstar> kde runs python2..
2013-06-11T16:56:30  <mcstar> its a bit annoying that i cant tab complete on anything in i3. namespace
2013-06-11T16:56:41  <mcstar> everything is generated
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2013-06-11T17:10:50  <mcstar> thestinger: great, i cant switch workspaces with i3-py
2013-06-11T17:10:59  <thestinger> lol
2013-06-11T17:11:12  <mcstar> my workspaces are called ' n '
2013-06-11T17:11:29  <mcstar> but when i want to change to one of them form i3-py it strips the leading space
2013-06-11T17:11:34  <mcstar> and i end up on 'n '
2013-06-11T17:11:39  <mcstar> a new workspace
2013-06-11T17:11:47  <mcstar> from*
2013-06-11T17:12:22  <mcstar> well, with my pager i wont have to format my workspaces with spaces
2013-06-11T17:12:31  <mcstar> so ill just call them 'n'
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2013-06-11T17:33:59  <mcstar> im not sure what im doing is thread-safe, but so far it works
2013-06-11T17:34:35  <mcstar> actually, it must be
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2013-06-11T17:49:43  <mcstar> well, it was worth developing with kde
2013-06-11T17:50:02  <mcstar> at the very least, i get syntax hilighted backtraces
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2013-06-11T18:04:43  <mcstar> thestinger: my mom's window xp just crashed, window doesnt boot up
2013-06-11T18:04:48  <thestinger> lol
2013-06-11T18:04:50  <mcstar> i knew this day would come..
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2013-06-11T18:14:14  <mcstar> arch install has ntfsfix
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2013-06-11T18:37:35  <mcstar> ouch
2013-06-11T18:37:49  <mcstar> the disk controller errors out on directory listing
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