2013-06-29T00:08:02 *** contestbot has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T00:08:02 -sendak.freenode.net- [freenode-info] if you're at a conference and other people are having trouble connecting, please mention it to staff: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp 2013-06-29T00:08:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o contestbot 2013-06-29T00:08:09 *** amstan_ has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T00:08:09 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan_ 2013-06-29T00:14:03 *** contestbot has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T00:14:03 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o contestbot 2013-06-29T00:46:21 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-06-29T00:50:48 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T01:01:00 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T01:05:14 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T01:11:25 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-06-29T01:15:55 *** coeus has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-06-29T01:16:15 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T01:23:43 *** Areks has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-06-29T01:58:01 *** foRei has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T02:42:52 *** epicmonkey has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T02:51:54 *** epicmonkey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-06-29T03:07:57 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-06-29T03:13:23 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T03:17:32 *** ZanniqlcKzxkq has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T03:17:59 *** Redgis_ has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T03:18:13 *** Zannick has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) 2013-06-29T03:18:21 *** ZanniqlcKzxkq is now known as Zannick 2013-06-29T03:18:25 *** Redgis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-06-29T03:19:51 *** antimatroid has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) 2013-06-29T03:19:53 *** antimatroid1 has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T03:26:25 *** amstan_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-06-29T03:29:59 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T03:35:06 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T03:48:33 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T03:48:41 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T04:24:47 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-06-29T04:30:01 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T04:37:21 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-06-29T04:41:04 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T04:57:06 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T05:17:59 mcstar: I deciphered the chefs speaking 2013-06-29T05:19:22 you had the syllables right, it's "why the f--- are you still trying to make out you've f---ing got sommen" where sommen -> something 2013-06-29T05:20:19 hey smiley1983! 2013-06-29T05:20:24 Hey! 2013-06-29T05:20:31 how's life? 2013-06-29T05:20:43 now it is very well :) 2013-06-29T05:20:51 that's good :) 2013-06-29T05:20:58 i hope for you too 2013-06-29T05:21:03 thanks for the translation 2013-06-29T05:21:15 yeah, not bad. You're welcome. 2013-06-29T05:21:32 It's been raining here for the last two weeks. 2013-06-29T05:21:35 did you shut down your servers? 2013-06-29T05:21:54 Not yet, the tcp server should still be running 2013-06-29T05:22:01 I shut down the one which was running bots against it 2013-06-29T05:22:18 there really should be a contest this fall/winter 2013-06-29T05:22:59 When you say "should" do you mean it's likely to happen, or that it would be nice if it did? 2013-06-29T05:23:08 If the latter, I agree that it would be nice :) 2013-06-29T05:23:09 ought to be 2013-06-29T05:23:28 so im not saying it is likely 2013-06-29T05:23:33 but it would be nice indeed 2013-06-29T05:23:59 the last one was way too long ago 2013-06-29T05:24:32 At one point I was thinking of trying to get the code ready to run something myself. Not any more, I have too much else to do. :( 2013-06-29T05:25:12 i think Jeff should talk to google, since he was already in touch with them, and ask if they can provide direct server time 2013-06-29T05:25:39 if that would work, i think the contest would be on its way 2013-06-29T05:26:20 so, probably amstan or some other core member should pick up the phone and call Jeff 2013-06-29T05:26:51 Is that really the obstacle though? I thought we needed people to get the code in order and volunteer to be admins for free 2013-06-29T05:27:17 i think nobody had the time to organize a non for profit org. 2013-06-29T05:27:27 but wo that, it would be much easier 2013-06-29T05:27:37 and i think there are enough ppl to contribute code 2013-06-29T05:28:01 That's right, non-profit so they could accept financial donations 2013-06-29T05:28:16 There isn't currently a working contest codebase, though 2013-06-29T05:28:37 how so? 2013-06-29T05:28:44 what happened to the previous one? 2013-06-29T05:29:05 The one used for Ants was tied to Ubunti 11.04, so at the very least it needs a bit of work to update it 2013-06-29T05:29:05 do you mean the game, or the framework around it? 2013-06-29T05:29:13 The framework 2013-06-29T05:29:14 oh 2013-06-29T05:29:16 The game is easy 2013-06-29T05:29:50 However, there was also the Zeta rewrite, which is partially working and partially stubs 2013-06-29T05:30:04 *** thestinger has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.1) 2013-06-29T05:30:28 It sought to solve problems with Epsilon, so I spent some time trying to decide which of those was better to put effort into 2013-06-29T05:31:18 * mcstar have never looked into this 2013-06-29T05:31:39 I also found this nice sandbox module which would allow threading and secure compilation with makefiles, so if that could be integrated it would greatly expand the bot-developer possibilities 2013-06-29T05:32:02 called Isolate, from the Moe Contest Environment 2013-06-29T05:33:28 All of this is work, though, and now I have a different project to eat all my time 2013-06-29T05:33:50 i seriously hope at leat you are working for money 2013-06-29T05:33:54 least* 2013-06-29T05:34:44 or is it a startup kind of thing? 2013-06-29T05:48:09 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-06-29T05:51:59 mcstar: I suppose you could call it a startup. Personal project which could theoretically make money but probably won't :) 2013-06-29T05:52:24 One other creator will be involved, later, if the project gets off the ground 2013-06-29T05:54:05 *** antimatroid1 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-06-29T05:55:41 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T06:00:04 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T06:00:41 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T06:22:14 *** dici has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T06:48:01 *** kilae has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T06:49:31 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-06-29T06:52:47 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T06:59:33 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-06-29T07:01:22 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-06-29T07:05:10 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T07:20:02 *** antimatroid has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T07:40:51 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T07:40:54 *** SoldierA1tEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T08:00:23 *** SoldierA1tEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T08:04:22 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T08:43:04 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T08:43:10 *** SoldierA1tEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T08:53:35 *** Scooper has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T09:33:31 *** SoldierA1tEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-06-29T09:36:25 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T09:36:42 *** antimatroid has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-06-29T09:39:09 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T09:53:37 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-06-29T09:56:33 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T10:14:08 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T10:16:38 *** Quix0te has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-06-29T10:18:01 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T11:44:24 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T11:44:31 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T11:51:55 *** amstan_ has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T11:51:55 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan_ 2013-06-29T11:56:43 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-06-29T11:59:51 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T12:42:41 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-06-29T12:45:52 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T12:51:18 *** floWenoL_ has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T12:53:45 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-06-29T12:54:10 *** floWenoL has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-06-29T12:59:08 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T13:18:29 *** cjoe has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T13:19:14 *** cjoe has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T13:48:25 *** antimatroid has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T13:51:17 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T13:55:05 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T14:02:59 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-06-29T14:06:07 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T14:45:40 *** foRei has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T14:56:49 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T14:56:55 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T15:12:19 *** thestinger has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T15:27:44 *** amstan_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-06-29T15:30:18 *** UncleVasya has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T15:40:15 smiley1983: hey! 2013-06-29T16:01:01 *** cjoe has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T16:01:34 *** cjoe has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T16:02:34 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-06-29T16:07:58 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T16:23:27 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-06-29T16:24:34 *** brini has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T16:26:48 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T16:32:40 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T16:32:48 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T16:32:51 *** AlliedEnvy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-06-29T16:44:24 *** brini has quit IRC (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi) 2013-06-29T16:44:55 *** AlliedEnvy has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T17:02:53 heheh, C's defines got me: 2013-06-29T17:02:53 #define BOARD_MAX_HEIGHT H_MAX+2 2013-06-29T17:02:53 #define BOARD_MAX_WIDTH W_MAX+2 2013-06-29T17:02:53 Node list[BOARD_MAX_HEIGHT*BOARD_MAX_WIDTH]; 2013-06-29T17:02:53 :D 2013-06-29T17:11:09 first rule is to always use parens 2013-06-29T17:11:21 second rule, try to avoid C 2013-06-29T17:15:29 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: mcstar) 2013-06-29T17:16:31 UncleVasya: your fault for using define instead of static const size_t ;p 2013-06-29T17:17:43 :) 2013-06-29T17:18:38 * UncleVasya just learned something useful from strcat. Nice :p 2013-06-29T17:18:40 *** mcstar has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T17:19:24 thestinger: im doing something wrong, i3 keeps hanging some time after i talk to it over ipc 2013-06-29T17:19:35 * thestinger shrugs 2013-06-29T17:19:55 thestinger: that didnt help particularly 2013-06-29T17:20:00 i mean, you shrugging 2013-06-29T17:20:03 XD 2013-06-29T17:20:18 mcstar: your i3 is as lazy as I am :D 2013-06-29T17:20:44 idk 2013-06-29T17:20:51 maybe im doing something wrong 2013-06-29T17:21:05 but... i got errors when i used the python bindings to it too 2013-06-29T17:33:25 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 2013-06-29T17:39:09 *** UncleVasya has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T17:47:44 thestinger: do you know if i3 support 'on all workspaces'? 2013-06-29T17:47:47 s 2013-06-29T17:48:19 it doesn't 2013-06-29T17:48:25 :( 2013-06-29T17:48:27 secure thinks it is stupid 2013-06-29T17:48:30 I think 2013-06-29T17:48:34 either that or no one implemented it 2013-06-29T17:48:37 it is useful sometimes 2013-06-29T17:48:49 * thestinger generally uses 1 workspace 2013-06-29T17:48:54 for floatings for example.. 2013-06-29T17:48:58 o.O 2013-06-29T17:49:01 1 ws? 2013-06-29T17:49:05 only things I put in other workspaces are videos and games in fullscreen 2013-06-29T17:49:11 mcstar: yes, with lots of stacking/tabbing 2013-06-29T17:49:13 when im working im using almost all of them 2013-06-29T17:49:24 I split the screen into 2 panes 2013-06-29T17:49:30 and make stacks on either side 2013-06-29T17:49:39 i spit any way it makes sense for the given ws 2013-06-29T17:49:41 usually just have browser + gvim + 2-4 terminals 2013-06-29T17:49:42 split* 2013-06-29T17:50:12 it is much faster to switch to the right workspace and group applications 2013-06-29T17:50:12 yeah but it's 1920x1080 so.... I split it into two 960x1080 2013-06-29T17:50:18 than to walk the window tree 2013-06-29T17:50:26 mcstar: but I never have many windows 2013-06-29T17:50:39 i have lots... when im really working 2013-06-29T17:50:53 I need to get bsg season 2 ;[ 2013-06-29T17:50:55 like 10-20 2013-06-29T17:51:13 once when i was making a presentation, i counted 35 i think, back on OSX 2013-06-29T17:51:20 wat 2013-06-29T17:51:22 :) 2013-06-29T17:51:36 seriously I just have the browser, editor and a couple terminals - what else do you need? 2013-06-29T17:51:57 a shitload of pdf's, file managers open at different places 2013-06-29T17:52:02 mplayer and games can get a workspace to themselves 2013-06-29T17:52:02 image viewver 2013-06-29T17:52:08 tarminals 2013-06-29T17:52:10 yeah but pdfs and images can be in the browser ;p 2013-06-29T17:52:11 typos 2013-06-29T17:52:17 no thay cant 2013-06-29T17:52:21 yeah they can 2013-06-29T17:52:25 no 2013-06-29T17:52:29 what browser? 2013-06-29T17:52:30 firefox and chrome both have built-in pdf viewers ;p 2013-06-29T17:52:34 lol 2013-06-29T17:52:39 they can suck my.. 2013-06-29T17:52:47 come on, nothing beats okular 2013-06-29T17:53:41 anyway, i usually work with many windows 2013-06-29T17:54:12 one thing im missing is to move tiled windows with the mouse 2013-06-29T17:54:16 it is not essential 2013-06-29T17:54:21 * thestinger is sad the new for loop didn't land for rust 0.7 2013-06-29T17:54:36 but it could be faster than trying to figure out the right way to rearrange windows in the tree 2013-06-29T17:54:58 i hope it is not an evil mini language like CL's loop 2013-06-29T17:54:58 mcstar: add it in a patch ;p 2013-06-29T17:55:16 mcstar: no it will just use the Iterator trait and the soon to be done Iterable trait 2013-06-29T17:55:22 pretty much identical to python's for loop 2013-06-29T17:55:41 + break/continue like the existing while/loop ones 2013-06-29T17:56:22 mcstar: http://static.rust-lang.org/doc/tutorial-container.html#iterators that's what is there right now 2013-06-29T17:56:42 need a) a new for loop, and b) sugar for writing iterators as generators 2013-06-29T17:56:48 the 2nd is hard ;p 2013-06-29T17:57:15 can compile a generator function to a state machine statically though, don't need to abuse tasks as coroutines or anything 2013-06-29T17:57:25 are there coroutines in rust? like yield 2013-06-29T17:57:37 or these 'tasks' are different? 2013-06-29T17:57:43 mcstar: well kind of. 2013-06-29T17:58:24 mcstar: tasks are sort of like threads, but you can choose to map them 1:1 to a thread *or* have them as lightweight M:N scheduled ones for I/O 2013-06-29T17:58:34 but you could use them as coroutines too 2013-06-29T17:58:48 how do i choose? 2013-06-29T17:58:53 different type? 2013-06-29T17:58:53 mcstar: hm? 2013-06-29T17:58:59 the mapping 2013-06-29T17:59:07 mcstar: oh you can pass a SchedMode 2013-06-29T17:59:14 to task::spawn_sched 2013-06-29T18:00:14 mcstar: http://static.rust-lang.org/doc/std/task.html#function-spawn_sched 2013-06-29T18:00:58 someone needs to figure out bullet point lists 2013-06-29T18:01:00 :) 2013-06-29T18:01:37 yeah looks like someone screwed that up ;p 2013-06-29T18:02:27 i think ill run i3 in xephyr 2013-06-29T18:02:35 why? 2013-06-29T18:02:40 so that i dont need to kill my session when it hangs... 2013-06-29T18:02:54 during the applet development 2013-06-29T18:02:57 kind of annoying.. 2013-06-29T18:03:05 or just make it not the thing that ends the session 2013-06-29T18:03:25 the what? 2013-06-29T18:03:31 [0629/180221:WARNING:backend_impl.cc(1875)] Destroying invalid entry. 2013-06-29T18:03:33 Another crash happened while handling crash! 2013-06-29T18:03:35 zsh: exit 76 google-earth 2013-06-29T18:03:37 strcat@thinktank i ~/packages/google-earth master % google-earth 2013-06-29T18:03:39 wat 2013-06-29T18:03:48 it printed that *before* the line I used to start it 2013-06-29T18:03:50 whoa 2013-06-29T18:03:51 * thestinger is confused 2013-06-29T18:04:28 big brother is indeed watching you 2013-06-29T18:13:03 *** brini has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T18:14:20 *** brini has quit IRC (Client Quit) 2013-06-29T18:39:50 *** mcstar has quit IRC (Quit: mcstar) 2013-06-29T19:00:31 *** dici has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T19:08:50 *** kilae has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90 [Firefox 21.0/20130511120803]) 2013-06-29T19:37:58 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T19:38:08 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T19:49:53 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 2013-06-29T19:53:14 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T20:10:13 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 2013-06-29T20:13:24 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T20:55:44 *** Scooper has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) 2013-06-29T21:04:46 *** UncleVasya has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-06-29T21:10:15 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-06-29T21:13:28 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T21:21:26 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T21:26:27 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T21:27:20 *** AlliedEnvy has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T21:30:52 *** amstan has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T21:30:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o amstan 2013-06-29T21:33:54 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-06-29T21:37:27 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T21:40:45 *** AlliedEnvy has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T21:45:27 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-06-29T21:49:10 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T21:55:21 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) 2013-06-29T21:59:29 *** AlliedEnvy has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-06-29T22:00:28 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T22:13:34 *** AlliedEnvy has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T22:36:55 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T22:37:01 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T23:21:05 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 2013-06-29T23:30:10 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T23:39:48 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T23:43:23 *** SoldierAntEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T23:48:17 *** SoldierAntEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-06-29T23:48:23 *** SoldierA1tEater has joined #aichallenge 2013-06-29T23:59:10 *** SoldierA1tEater has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)