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2013-10-12T06:06:57  <antimatroid> sigh: i'm curious, what are your thoughts about google lately? I'm pretty over them and at the point where I want to stop using all their services (though not quite sure what to replace them with)
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2013-10-12T06:12:38  <sigh> antimatroid: what specifically?
2013-10-12T06:15:04  <antimatroid> the whole bending over backwards for the us government first pissed me off, but shit like http://www.reddit.com/r/self/comments/1o9eck/for_fucks_sake_google_i_do_not_want_to_use_my/ doesn't help either
2013-10-12T06:15:45  <antimatroid> it asks me to change my name like once a week
2013-10-12T06:19:23  <antimatroid> i'm pretty pissed at everyone about the bending over backwards though
2013-10-12T06:20:17  <sigh> The us government stuff I don't think is much different than it has always been, google has always complied with (and pushed back on) government requests from around the world: http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/
2013-10-12T06:20:52  <sigh> there's not much option other than the lavabit route of shutting down the business entirely, or pulling out of the country
2013-10-12T06:21:13  <antimatroid> they could at least do something to say hey this isn't right
2013-10-12T06:21:23  <antimatroid> it took someone like snowden to confirm the shit was even happening
2013-10-12T06:21:58  <antimatroid> spying on each others' allies is stupid, it's like spying on your best friends
2013-10-12T06:22:11  <antimatroid> i know our government is no better
2013-10-12T06:24:50  <antimatroid> i could have sworn when I was growing up people were condemning china for shit like this, and now it's like everyone thinks it's okay
2013-10-12T06:25:54  <sigh> I still don't know what to make of snowden's stuff, it's very hard to tell exactly what information they have access to, and what those channels are. I think the spying on allies thing was something that was obviously happening, except now they can't deny it
2013-10-12T06:27:34  <antimatroid> i would like to move to services which use well implemented encryption, but it seems they are very hard to find
2013-10-12T06:27:56  <antimatroid> and places like lavabit in the us aren't even allowed to run
2013-10-12T06:28:03  <antimatroid> that's pretty fucked up
2013-10-12T06:28:23  <antimatroid> well, they were, the government was going to force them to fuck their users over
2013-10-12T06:28:31  <sigh> yeah, it's tricky... and a major problem is that email is inherently insecure
2013-10-12T06:29:41  <antimatroid> surely it's not that hard to do encryption properly?
2013-10-12T06:29:50  <antimatroid> rsa sounds pretty straight forward though i've never implemented it myself
2013-10-12T06:30:33  <sigh> encryption is hard :) and even if you have a perfect algorithm, you still need to have some way of distributing keys securely
2013-10-12T06:30:58  <sigh> so unless you are meeting people in person and exchanging keys like that, you have to have some level of trust somewhere
2013-10-12T06:31:33  <sigh> and then you have to convince everyone else to use it
2013-10-12T06:31:46  <antimatroid> i don't even have anything to hide, i'm just opposed to what they're doing :|
2013-10-12T06:32:07  <antimatroid> and like the whole anonymous side of the internet
2013-10-12T06:33:04  <antimatroid> anyway, how's life? i stalk your reddit page from time to time :P
2013-10-12T06:33:33  <sigh> haha, I'm doing well... I'm learning to fly
2013-10-12T06:33:47  <antimatroid> nice, how much is that setting you back?
2013-10-12T06:33:59  <antimatroid> my uncle went on one of the tall ships from hobart to sydney the other week if you heard about those
2013-10-12T06:34:06  <sigh> about $300 a lesson :(
2013-10-12T06:34:13  <sigh> oh, nice
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2013-10-12T11:19:43  <ramn> smiley1983: do you have a setup for the server that would be easy for me to deploy?
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2013-10-12T14:15:29  <mcstar> thestinger1: hey!
2013-10-12T14:15:35  <thestinger1> hi
2013-10-12T14:15:43  <mcstar> i watched BB last week
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2013-10-12T14:15:47  <thestinger> BB?
2013-10-12T14:15:49  <thestinger> breaking bad
2013-10-12T14:15:51  <mcstar> breaking bad
2013-10-12T14:15:51  <thestinger> oh
2013-10-12T14:15:57  <thestinger> how much did you watch?
2013-10-12T14:16:02  <mcstar> all of it
2013-10-12T14:16:05  * thestinger is just on season 4 ;p
2013-10-12T14:16:13  <mcstar> i didnt like it
2013-10-12T14:16:15  <mcstar> too much
2013-10-12T14:16:16  <thestinger> heh
2013-10-12T14:16:32  <mcstar> the acting is pretty bad sometimes...
2013-10-12T14:16:49  <mcstar> and the quality is nowhere near dexter
2013-10-12T14:16:59  <mcstar> but it was amusing, and i wanted to see what will happen
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