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2013-11-12T17:08:42  <mcstar> thestinger: hey
2013-11-12T17:08:48  <thestinger> hi
2013-11-12T17:09:39  <mcstar> thestinger: could you do a ctcp for the client version on me?
2013-11-12T17:10:37  <mcstar> hm, apparently antimatroid1 tried to communicate with me...
2013-11-12T17:12:43  <mcstar> like that
2013-11-12T17:12:56  <mcstar> i wonder what is reports back to you
2013-11-12T17:13:59  <thestinger> 17:14:05 freenode  -- | CTCP reply from mcstar: VERSION LimeChat for Mac 2.39
2013-11-12T17:14:12  <mcstar> thx :)
2013-11-12T17:14:35  <thestinger> mcstar: is it an iphone?
2013-11-12T17:14:42  <mcstar> MBA
2013-11-12T17:15:08  <mcstar> im installing weechat with homebrew...
2013-11-12T17:15:24  <mcstar> well, it works
2013-11-12T17:15:43  <mcstar> but i have the config file for it on my desktop which is off now
2013-11-12T17:16:13  <mcstar> thestinger: the battery life is really great, they were not kidding about that
2013-11-12T17:16:41  <mcstar> atm it is a pain to switch from a fullhd screen + i3 setup
2013-11-12T17:19:11  <thestinger> mcstar: should have bought a chromebook pixel and put arch on it! ;p
2013-11-12T17:19:50  <mcstar> im not a linus fanboi XD
2013-11-12T17:19:56  <thestinger> 13 inch 2560x1700
2013-11-12T17:20:00  <thestinger> mcstar: pfft
2013-11-12T17:20:05  <mcstar> j/k
2013-11-12T17:20:33  <mcstar> i didnt like the chromebook especially
2013-11-12T17:20:53  <mcstar> anyway, it would have been a hassle to order it i guess
2013-11-12T17:21:48  <mcstar> and i wanted to try osx, i have only used Leopard before, but that was a long time ago
2013-11-12T17:22:11  <mcstar> i will still use i3 on some machines(s)
2013-11-12T17:22:17  <mcstar> -s
2013-11-12T17:23:52  <mcstar> thestinger: i might order this phone from china directly http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_p780-5544.php
2013-11-12T17:24:00  <mcstar> only costs 240$
2013-11-12T17:24:13  <thestinger> but... nexus 5!
2013-11-12T17:24:26  <mcstar> hehe
2013-11-12T17:24:33  <mcstar> yeah, i had my eye on the nexus 5
2013-11-12T17:24:46  <mcstar> it is crazy expensive
2013-11-12T17:25:02  <thestinger> don't eat for a few weeks
2013-11-12T17:25:04  <mcstar> and it still doesnt have a micro sd
2013-11-12T17:25:19  <thestinger> they leave out that stuff to force you to use their cloud services
2013-11-12T17:25:27  <mcstar> oh, and has a short battery life, i dont want such a phone
2013-11-12T17:25:36  <thestinger> a nexus device will *never* have extensible storage
2013-11-12T17:25:38  <thestinger> ever.
2013-11-12T17:25:56  <mcstar> well, but the close relative, the lg optimus gj has
2013-11-12T17:26:07  <mcstar> which is a decendent from nexus 4
2013-11-12T17:26:10  <thestinger> some nexus devices have had siblings that weren't branded as nexus, but were basically the same except for not getting updates and not leaving out external storage
2013-11-12T17:26:23  <thestinger> mcstar: yeah
2013-11-12T17:26:37  <thestinger> but anything that's not a nexus device won't get updates for long :)
2013-11-12T17:26:41  <mcstar> anyway, the optimus G is quite a nice phone, even the one without the msd slot
2013-11-12T17:27:02  <thestinger> and they won't have as strong support by cyanogenmod
2013-11-12T17:27:31  <mcstar> iirc google just dropped support for previous nexi than nexus 4
2013-11-12T17:28:33  <mcstar> thestinger: i tried an lg g2, it has a gorgeous screen, fullhd is really nice
2013-11-12T17:28:45  <mcstar> im still not decided on whether or not i should give that up :)
2013-11-12T17:28:59  <thestinger> mcstar: they drop support after ~3 years though
2013-11-12T17:29:25  <thestinger> not ideal, but you probably already replace your devices at that rate ;p
2013-11-12T17:29:43  <mcstar> well, this had to do with TI not developing driver for the soc's for the new releases of android, thats what i heard
2013-11-12T17:30:25  <thestinger> android graphics drivers are generally closed source
2013-11-12T17:30:35  <mcstar> yeah, stupid things
2013-11-12T17:30:52  <thestinger> mcstar: the reference implementation driver by ARM is closed :(
2013-11-12T17:31:40  <mcstar> anyway, the lenovo p780 is 'dirt cheap' and has 4000mah battery, beats all the phones on the market
2013-11-12T17:32:21  <mcstar> and a 5inch HD IPS screen is still not the worst of things
2013-11-12T17:32:44  <mcstar> and later, i could buy a flagship when they drop in price
2013-11-12T17:35:16  <mcstar> @later tell antimatroid1 i have the source code, and probably the results too, but you can re-calculate then quickly i guess. i could go up a few steps in the input even, by using several machines, if it is important, but i dont want to promise that right now
2013-11-12T17:35:16  <contestbot> mcstar: I think that worked...
2013-11-12T17:35:33  <mcstar> @later tell antimatroid i have the source code, and probably the results too, but you can re-calculate then quickly i guess. i could go up a few steps in the input even, by using several machines, if it is important, but i dont want to promise that right now
2013-11-12T17:35:33  <contestbot> mcstar: Yes master!
2013-11-12T17:35:53  <mcstar> i wonder if there are wildcards
2013-11-12T17:36:54  <antimatroid1> mcstar: I think i'm okay anyway
2013-11-12T17:37:04  <antimatroid1> had some numbers written down elsewhere
2013-11-12T17:37:12  <mcstar> hey! it has been too long
2013-11-12T17:37:16  <antimatroid1> i now have a recursive formula for them, just wanted to see if it agreed with what I had
2013-11-12T17:37:23  <antimatroid1> yah,  how's it going?
2013-11-12T17:37:29  <mcstar> good
2013-11-12T17:37:29  <antimatroid1> i've been busy busy busy lately aha
2013-11-12T17:37:38  <mcstar> yeah, who hasnt? :)
2013-11-12T17:37:49  <mcstar> i dont think you have seen me on irc latel
2013-11-12T17:37:54  <mcstar> y
2013-11-12T17:38:13  <antimatroid1> i hadn't looked tbh
2013-11-12T17:39:03  <mcstar> antimatroid1: so, have you come up with results wrt this problem?
2013-11-12T17:39:11  <mcstar> something publishable?
2013-11-12T17:39:27  <antimatroid1> not yet, kept getting distracted by other stuff
2013-11-12T17:39:36  <antimatroid1> only just got stuck into this again a few weeks ago
2013-11-12T17:39:48  <antimatroid1> have a game theory paper i'm almost ready to submit though
2013-11-12T17:40:16  <mcstar> how long is the review+print process?
2013-11-12T17:40:22  <antimatroid1> no idea
2013-11-12T17:40:30  <mcstar> i heard it is long for certain maths journals
2013-11-12T17:40:43  <antimatroid1> yeah no doubt, the referee would need to go through the damn thing
2013-11-12T17:40:57  <mcstar> antimatroid1: did you upload it to arxiv?
2013-11-12T17:41:05  <antimatroid1> not yet, i will before i submit it
2013-11-12T17:41:18  <antimatroid1> my advisor has my current draft, it's almost done
2013-11-12T17:41:46  <mcstar> is it the same advisor as for your undergrad studies?
2013-11-12T17:41:51  <antimatroid1> that one is
2013-11-12T17:42:01  <antimatroid1> i have 2 phd advisors, he is 1 though he's also now retired aha
2013-11-12T17:42:49  <antimatroid1> what are you doing these days?
2013-11-12T17:43:03  <mcstar> same as you
2013-11-12T17:43:10  <mcstar> well, not exactly...
2013-11-12T17:43:51  <mcstar> phd + i received a young researcher title or whatnot
2013-11-12T17:44:35  <mcstar> maybe i have already mentioned that, idk
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2013-11-12T17:45:53  <antimatroid1> what's a young researcher title?
2013-11-12T17:45:57  <antimatroid1> is that just funding or more?
2013-11-12T17:46:03  <mcstar> funding
2013-11-12T17:46:20  <antimatroid1> ah yep okay, i have a "tasmania graduate research scholarship" or something like that
2013-11-12T17:46:26  <antimatroid1> are you teaching at all?
2013-11-12T17:46:27  <mcstar> + i had to assemble a proposal for what ill be doing
2013-11-12T17:46:36  <antimatroid1> yeah i had to do that too, that was stupid
2013-11-12T17:46:40  <mcstar> but ofc that needed to be done for phd application also
2013-11-12T17:46:53  <antimatroid1> i had to write an essay on the ethics of my research :P
2013-11-12T17:47:01  <antimatroid1> "uhhhh, I wont abuse any abstract objects?"
2013-11-12T17:47:05  <mcstar> antimatroid1: i should be, but i chose to ignore it gor this semester
2013-11-12T17:47:31  <antimatroid1> i ended up rambling on about responsible use of research time (not that I'm particularly great at applying that knowledge aha)
2013-11-12T17:47:40  <mcstar> :)
2013-11-12T17:48:10  <mcstar> weird though, ethics of research...
2013-11-12T17:48:30  <antimatroid1> it's more appropriate when people are using animals in their testing
2013-11-12T17:48:36  <mcstar> yes
2013-11-12T17:48:43  <mcstar> or at least solid objects
2013-11-12T17:48:50  <mcstar> or glassware
2013-11-12T17:48:56  <mcstar> china maybe
2013-11-12T17:49:18  <mcstar> bureocracy...
2013-11-12T17:49:39  <mcstar> au*
2013-11-12T17:52:31  <mcstar> antimatroid1: whats with purple irc? you used to use something that starts with an A
2013-11-12T17:54:29  <mcstar> and did you finally come to terms with osx window management?
2013-11-12T17:56:06  <antimatroid1> sorry got distracted
2013-11-12T17:56:23  <antimatroid1> i have always used pidgin on ubuntu
2013-11-12T17:56:35  <antimatroid1> the only time i touch the laptop now is when i go interstate
2013-11-12T17:56:39  <antimatroid1> so no, still hate osx with a passion
2013-11-12T17:56:58  <mcstar> adium!
2013-11-12T17:57:01  <antimatroid1> i do have an up to date version of ubuntu though
2013-11-12T17:57:07  <antimatroid1> for a change
2013-11-12T17:57:09  <antimatroid1> though hate it
2013-11-12T17:57:15  <antimatroid1> why the fuck did they get rid of task bars :(
2013-11-12T17:57:27  <mcstar> im on mountain lion
2013-11-12T17:57:34  <antimatroid1> i liked being able to access open windows with a single click, and hate when it moves all the open windows to reveal shit
2013-11-12T17:57:37  <mcstar> gonna update to maverick tomorrow i think
2013-11-12T17:57:44  <mcstar> mavericks*
2013-11-12T17:58:16  <antimatroid1> i hate docks
2013-11-12T17:58:19  <antimatroid1> i think they're inferior
2013-11-12T17:58:20  * mcstar never really used ubuntu so he doesnt know about that
2013-11-12T17:58:26  <antimatroid1> it's just like the osx dock
2013-11-12T17:58:34  <antimatroid1> they're stupid
2013-11-12T17:58:50  <mcstar> task bars suck
2013-11-12T17:58:56  <mcstar> i know that :)
2013-11-12T17:59:15  <mcstar> this reminds me of my advisor, still using vista LOL
2013-11-12T17:59:30  <antimatroid1> if i was using windows i'd prefer to still have xp
2013-11-12T17:59:32  <antimatroid1> xp was good
2013-11-12T17:59:41  <mcstar> my mom is on xp
2013-11-12T17:59:57  <antimatroid1> they fucked up minesweeper after that too
2013-11-12T18:00:08  <antimatroid1> one of the best games ever
2013-11-12T18:00:17  <mcstar> it is good for her, i would go nuts on plain xp
2013-11-12T18:00:29  <antimatroid1> what are your thoughts on windows 8?
2013-11-12T18:00:41  <antimatroid1> i would refuse to use a desktop os that was make for touch screens
2013-11-12T18:00:51  <mcstar> well, since i didnt get a windows laptop, not much
2013-11-12T18:01:08  <mcstar> probably it is ok if its windows phone 8 :)
2013-11-12T18:01:21  <antimatroid1> i meant for use on desktops running windows
2013-11-12T18:01:28  <mcstar> yeah, i know
2013-11-12T18:02:04  <mcstar> from what ive heard, if you remove the tile interface, it is almost the same as win7 just a little more cartoonish
2013-11-12T18:02:19  <mcstar> well, you cant remove it, i wanted to say, if you disregard it
2013-11-12T18:02:43  <mcstar> anyway, i would never go back to windows
2013-11-12T18:02:56  <antimatroid1> yeah, but i will never go to osx either
2013-11-12T18:02:59  <mcstar> linux was more than good enough for me...
2013-11-12T18:02:59  <antimatroid1> so we differ on that
2013-11-12T18:03:20  <mcstar> im only keeping osx, because this is an ultrabook, and i like the long battery life
2013-11-12T18:03:27  <mcstar> and dont want to screw that up with linux
2013-11-12T18:03:34  <antimatroid1> but it means using osx
2013-11-12T18:03:36  <antimatroid1> totally not worth it
2013-11-12T18:03:39  <mcstar> (and just try osx for a while...)
2013-11-12T18:03:48  <antimatroid1> do you use spaces?
2013-11-12T18:04:02  <mcstar> antimatroid1: ive used it before, and i liked osx back then too
2013-11-12T18:04:13  <antimatroid1> but their implementation is retarded
2013-11-12T18:04:17  <mcstar> antimatroid1: it is called mission control now, there are no explicit spaces
2013-11-12T18:04:20  <antimatroid1> especially moving active windows across spaces
2013-11-12T18:04:34  <antimatroid1> they want both hands on the keyboard whilst holding down the trackpad, simply retarded
2013-11-12T18:04:50  <mcstar> and it is going to change again in mavericks (will be even better) thats a main reason im gonna upgrade
2013-11-12T18:04:59  <antimatroid1> and alt tab can take you across spaces without the possibility of getting back sometimes
2013-11-12T18:05:11  <antimatroid1> i assume you have to pay money for this upgrade too?
2013-11-12T18:05:19  <mcstar> nope
2013-11-12T18:05:42  <antimatroid1> my version of osx wont even let me cut files/folders, people suggested i upgrate the version of osx to get a feature which should have been around since windows 95
2013-11-12T18:05:46  <mcstar> you can upgrade even from 10.6 to mavericks for free, iirc
2013-11-12T18:06:10  <antimatroid1> hmmm okay, maybe i should try upgrading it
2013-11-12T18:06:31  <antimatroid1> i find installing stuff on osx can be harder too
2013-11-12T18:06:38  <mcstar> antimatroid1: anyway, on linux, tiling window management is the way to go, especially with multiple monitors
2013-11-12T18:06:41  <antimatroid1> it was easy for me to compile everything for GAP on ubuntu
2013-11-12T18:06:43  <mcstar> i3 is really the king
2013-11-12T18:06:55  <antimatroid1> i only use one monitor
2013-11-12T18:07:27  <mcstar> there are some kind of tiling solutions for osx too, ill look around  when ill have the time
2013-11-12T18:08:06  <mcstar> antimatroid1: lol,battery is at 75%, it estimates 14 hours until discharge
2013-11-12T18:09:37  <mcstar> it's past midnight, i have to go to sleep
2013-11-12T18:09:56  <mcstar> i getting up at 5:45 usually, when i go to 'work'
2013-11-12T18:09:58  <mcstar> m
2013-11-12T18:10:47  <mcstar> gn
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2013-11-12T18:17:09  <antimatroid1> night :P
2013-11-12T18:17:17  <antimatroid1> (yes I know he's gone)
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