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2016-04-05T06:09:11  <smiley1983> UncleVasya: that looks great. :) I like the "relative strength" column, that would be quite useful to the players.
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2016-04-05T06:28:12  <mhvis> Hello! I have a question, we saw on the credits page that the ants software is fully open-source, but were unable to find a license. We are wondering if we can use the software for an own contest.
2016-04-05T07:21:44  <mhvis> whois choas
2016-04-05T08:03:21  <ramn> mhvis: hi, somebody asked that the other day. Amstan claimed it is unlicensed, ask him when he gets here
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2016-04-05T10:16:21  <mhvis> Ha! Yes, that was me a couple days ago with a wrong username, I then had to log off and couldn't read the answers. I'm now setting up an irc bouncer. Unlicensed sounds to me as that it is NOT allowed to use ourselves?
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2016-04-05T12:09:52  <ramn> mhvis: sending you msg with what was said
2016-04-05T12:15:03  <ramn> mhvis: smiley1983 has done some new work aswell that might be interesting
2016-04-05T12:18:32  <mhvis> again thanks for the msg! I'll check out the work by smiley1983
2016-04-05T12:19:40  <UncleVasya> mhvis: I think in this case 'unlicensed' means 'do whatever you want' :)
2016-04-05T12:21:43  <mhvis> We'll probably do :D
2016-04-05T12:23:44  <mhvis> We do have some resources/time, so then maybe what we'll do is reuse the idea and recreate parts or most of the code (because of the technical reasons given by amstan). Also it will not be an online competition.
2016-04-05T12:24:25  <mhvis> Or do something with the new work by smiley1983
2016-04-05T12:24:28  <ramn> mhvis: are you planning to share your work as free software?
2016-04-05T12:25:26  <mhvis> ramn: yeah we'll fork the project then
2016-04-05T12:26:01  <ramn> nice!
2016-04-05T12:28:01  <mhvis> but forking and adding a license seems quite wrong xd :/ but in that case we'll try to not reuse code
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2016-04-05T13:12:33  <ramn> perhaps you can fork and put in public domain
2016-04-05T13:12:38  <ramn> creative commons or something
2016-04-05T13:19:49  <mhvis> ramn: yes good idea! Adding an own license instead of public domain isn't really the way to go indeed. But I'll at least wait for a confirmation from amstan before doing that. Otherwise I guess we'll write some new code.
2016-04-05T14:07:24  <UncleVasya> mhvis: will you run one of aichallenge games or make a new one?
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2016-04-05T15:10:14  <mhvis> UncleVasya: We want to run an offline contest with the game idea of the Ants challenge. We'll probably recreate most or all of the code due to the license.
2016-04-05T15:16:55  <UncleVasya> mhvis: I was recently porting Ants visualizer to other (simplier) games and it worked very well. Even though it was written 6 years ago it is still awesome and fast.
2016-04-05T15:22:50  <mhvis> UncleVasya: nice! The visualizer code seems well-written. I guess we can use it anyway then.
2016-04-05T15:29:31  <UncleVasya> mhvis: if you'll have questions about its internals, you can ask me. I think I'm the only one left here who is familiar with how it works :) Will be another excuse for a time taken to study/refactor it.
2016-04-05T15:31:56  <mhvis> UncleVasya: thanks :) Will remember to do that
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